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Why do people take different steroids? Shouldn't just testosterone be enough?
Totally ignorant on this so I expect stupid responses.
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Why do people take different steroids? Shouldn't just testosterone be enough?
Totally ignorant on this so I expect stupid responses.
you know exactly why...
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Why do people take different steroids? Shouldn't just testosterone be enough?
Totally ignorant on this so I expect stupid responses.
if they are smart they do it to test each one out and see which works best for them
doc huge of enhanced athlete is a pioneer in this regard, and "thinks outside the box" which is a very wise and intelligent thing to do
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It's actually a reasonable question, not stupid.
But my answer would be long :D
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why are people taking steroids to begin with is a better question, with the positive effects being temporary and the negative effects possibly permanent.
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If one thinks about it, a lot is based on the love of the exotic, and the thought of more is greater.
There have been lot of guys that have done great things with their physiques with just a few basic compounds, but it's not exciting. Also if you think about the counterfeiting that goes on, especially years ago, most guys were probably running the same small handful of compounds too, just under spurious names.
Perhaps there is something to be said for the placebo effect of names.
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why are people lifting heavy weights to begin with is a better question, with the positive effects being temporary and the negative effects possibly permanent.
fixed
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Because they are stupid. No need to take so much variety of anabolics. 1 compound is enough. I never took more than 1 anabolic at a time throughout my competitive years.
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Spot on! None of these effects are permanent, wither drug aided or not.
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Because they are stupid. No need to take so much variety of anabolics. 1 compound is enough. I never took more than 1 anabolic at a time throughout my competitive years.
so post up you pic from you competitive years
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My experience..
Test- great base drug
Deca- gained slightly more muscle on it then test and blood markers were better
Winny - actually does thin the skin it's used in angiodema, so best precontest
Tren - better gains then deca and no water retention
EQ - great pump and appetite no bloat so gains were small
Primo - ok gains were minimal cause of no water retention
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More roids = more muscle. Cmon people...
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Some drugs cause sub-q water retention (evil for example), some don't (Winstrol),some cause intracellular water retention (Anadrol for ex.). Some drugs decrease SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Gobulin; Trenbolone, Winstrol, Proviron, etc..), some don't (testosterone). Some drugs affect liver production of igf1 (devs, Trenbolone, etc...), some don't (test). Some drugs aromatics (test, 0ea, sol, etc...), some don't (dht- derivatives, such as Winstrol, Anavar, etc... Some that arnt dht-derrived such as Tren. Even though its a 19-nortestosterone derivative).
There's only so many androgen receptors but not all drugs bind strongly to the AR, and some may have anabolic activity outside an androgen receptor (Anadrol). Some bind strongly yet have very little anabolic activity (for, halotestin, Proviron, etc...).
Better to cover all your bases and know whats gonna help you achieve a particular goal.
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Some drugs cause sub-q water retention (evil for example), some don't (Winstrol),some cause intracellular water retention (Anadrol for ex.). Some drugs decrease SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Gobulin; Trenbolone, Winstrol, Proviron, etc..), some don't (testosterone). Some drugs affect liver production of igf1 (devs, Trenbolone, etc...), some don't (test). Some drugs aromatics (test, 0ea, sol, etc...), some don't (dht- derivatives, such as Winstrol, Anavar, etc... Some that arnt dht-derrived such as Tren. Even though its a 19-nortestosterone derivative).
There's only so many androgen receptors but not all drugs bind strongly to the AR, and some may have anabolic activity outside an androgen receptor (Anadrol). Some bind strongly yet have very little anabolic activity (for, halotestin, Proviron, etc...).
Better to cover all your bases and know whats gonna help you achieve a particular goal.
What if one would only take one compound like Proviron? Any real effects or wasted money and unnecessary stress on the system?
I took a look at your instagram - always though you were just a troll. Could have done without the torn open ass-cheeks... have you fully recovered yet...
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It's actually a reasonable question, not stupid.
But my answer would be long :D
Here's the short version: 1 + 1 doesn't equal 2
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Some drugs cause sub-q water retention (evil for example), some don't (Winstrol),some cause intracellular water retention (Anadrol for ex.). Some drugs decrease SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Gobulin; Trenbolone, Winstrol, Proviron, etc..), some don't (testosterone). Some drugs affect liver production of igf1 (devs, Trenbolone, etc...), some don't (test). Some drugs aromatics (test, 0ea, sol, etc...), some don't (dht- derivatives, such as Winstrol, Anavar, etc... Some that arnt dht-derrived such as Tren. Even though its a 19-nortestosterone derivative).
There's only so many androgen receptors but not all drugs bind strongly to the AR, and some may have anabolic activity outside an androgen receptor (Anadrol). Some bind strongly yet have very little anabolic activity (for, halotestin, Proviron, etc...).
Better to cover all your bases and know whats gonna help you achieve a particular goal.
Sounds too dangerous to even sort through all of that which makes me wonder why someone would be willing to go through all of those drugs just for a slight gain above just sticking to Testosterone or something.
Is there really a benefit to using so many drugs rather than just one? How would you know which one is doing what if you are taking so many? The way I see all of it, its a Pandora's box with no Scientific Data available really to point anyone in the right direction.
For what its worth, its pretty easy to tell when someone has a physique that is all drugs and nothing else. Everyone one I have ever met that has used steroids of any kind, never bothered to max themselves out naturally.
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Sounds too dangerous to even sort through all of that which makes me wonder why someone would be willing to go through all of those drugs just for a slight gain above just sticking to Testosterone or something.
Is there really a benefit to using so many drugs rather than just one? How would you know which one is doing what if you are taking so many? The way I see all of it, its a Pandora's box with no Scientific Data available really to point anyone in the right direction.
For what its worth, its pretty easy to tell when someone has a physique that is all drugs and nothing else. Everyone one I have ever met that has used steroids of any kind, never bothered to max themselves out naturally.
why would they, its all fake anyway, even your maxed out natty will look like he never lifted after 6 months off.
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if they are smart they do it to test each one out and see which works best for them
doc huge of enhanced athlete is a pioneer in this regard, and "thinks outside the box" which is a very wise and intelligent thing to do
Though for some they just don't appear to work
No matter which one they use.
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My experience..
Test- great base drug
Deca- gained slightly more muscle on it then test and blood markers were better
Winny - actually does thin the skin it's used in angiodema, so best precontest
Tren - better gains then deca and no water retention
EQ - great pump and appetite no bloat so gains were small
Primo - ok gains were minimal cause of no water retention
How come none of these work for dj181 ?
;D ;D
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Try trenbolone ace, testo prop and winstrol for cutting. Change it to dbol (instead of winstrol ) for gaining. As much gh you can afford. Add slin in if you want a big stomach. Iv'e been in this game for 21 years.
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Though for some they just don't appear to work
No matter which one they use.
i only ran this for bout 8 weeks and i got decent gains
now ill run it 20 weeks and eat better, so we'll see what happens
1st is without it second and third is with it ;)
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;D
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i suppose its the same as for supplements, you need to mix that shit up, stack that shit
first you get the aminos
then protein powder, you want to mix that shit up, not just whey but casein, egg, pea protein etc
gotta get som pwo in there, maybe mix one for energy one for pump
then a good post-work out a good protein and carb blend
something to help you sleep etc
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why would they, its all fake anyway, even your maxed out natty will look like he never lifted after 6 months off.
I get accused of using steroids on a daily basis from steroid users and even a few NPC competitors. So you are wrong there.
Plus, people have accused other lifetime naturals of steroids so your premise is shit.
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I get accused of using steroids on a daily basis from steroid users and even a few NPC competitors. So you are wrong there.
Plus, people have accused other lifetime naturals of steroids so your premise is shit.
that isnt my point.
I have no idea why you are posting something that will make people think you look like you use steroids when you dont, its sort of fishing for compliments.
Let me put it this way
If you train natty for ten years or use steroids for ten years, after 6 months of stopping training and using you would look exactly the same.
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that isnt my point.
I have no idea why you are posting something that will make people think you look like you use steroids when you dont, its sort of fishing for compliments.
Let me put it this way
If you train natty for ten years or use steroids for ten years, after 6 months of stopping training and using you would look exactly the same.
Oh, I see what you are saying.
The point is never stop training. Also, you seem to be using them more intelligently than nearly anyone on here and not just shooting fish in a barrel. What do you think separates you from most who just blast themselves with tons of drugs, only to look awful with a myriad of health problems?
You see them as merely a tool to enhance and not as the foundation, correct?
You would still train with or without right?
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More roids = more muscle. Cmon people...
not true
i upped test dose and i just got wetter no muscle gain
heres the thread
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=588776.0
test is a shit drug for me as is dbol, drol, eq. mast
the only drugs i really respond to are tren and deca
i bought winny like a dumb fuck but thank God i got some deca coming my way 😎
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It's actually a reasonable question, not stupid.
But my answer would be long :D
agreed
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What if one would only take one compound like Proviron? Any real effects or wasted money and unnecessary stress on the system?
I took a look at your instagram - always though you were just a troll. Could have done without the torn open ass-cheeks... have you fully recovered yet...
Never been a troll. Generally speaking I just respond to ppl.
You Q about just 1 compound. Proviron is a bad example, btw. (I wouldn't even consider Proviron a "steroid", although it very much is. I typically Thu k of it as something "extra" to compliment the actual "steroids" being used) Proviron alone will do little more than increase your sex drive and give you spontaneous hard-on's like you were 12yrs old again, but do next to nothing for muscle growth/recovery. Provison will inhibit shbg, allowing for more free/unbound testosterone in the bloodstream. That in itself may help recovery, but nothing compared to even a small dose of say, 50mg test a week (vs 50mg Proviron... Even 100mg per day).
You can get by with just 1 compound. Depending on what compound, and depending on what the goal is, but the results won't compare to using multiple, even 2 compounds.
The mg's used don't compare really, either. 1000mg/wk of test cyp don't compare to 1000mg/wk of Tren... Or EQ... Or 1000mg/wk of dbo... Or even 14mgs/wk of methyltrienolone (yes, fourteen)... Etc etc...
The results from 100omg test per week won't compare to, say 300 test and 300 Tren per week, even though its 40% less. Even at 50% less, maybe 300 Tren and 200 test a week will be better than 1000 test alone.
Orals are a different story as well. Orals generally are more effective mg per mg than injectable. 50mg/day Winstrol will produce better results than 50mg per day injectable. Most likely due to the orals having a greater effect on the liver releasing igf1 than the injectables. (Not sure where to even get injectable Winstrol. I suppose I could make it, but it'd be in oil. Not water, like its typically made, and I'm not sure what concentration is possible. Last injectable winny I used was the 50mg Zambon amps and I believe the 100mg/ml micronized 10ml bottles from Denkall. The risks with water-based shit like winny is too high for me to consider using or producing). Conversely, many guys say they like injectable Anadrol compared to oral. I've never used it however.
If you're just gonna use 1 compound, I'd always say just use test.
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that isnt my point.
I have no idea why you are posting something that will make people think you look like you use steroids when you dont, its sort of fishing for compliments.
Let me put it this way
If you train natty for ten years or use steroids for ten years, after 6 months of stopping training and using you would look exactly the same.
After stopping training? Sure. If you keep training the extra muscle you built on roids doesn't all just go away.
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i only ran this for bout 8 weeks and i got decent gains
now ill run it 20 weeks and eat better, so we'll see what happens
1st is without it second and third is with it ;)
You should not need any steroids to look the way you do. I looked like you at 15 years old in my first teenage show. The NPC Teenage New Jersey. Steroid free. Why are you on steroids?
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You should not need any steroids to look the way you do. I looked like you at 15 years old in my first teenage show. The NPC Teenage New Jersey. Steroid free. Why are you on steroids?
i dont believe you
i like experimenting and finding out how things work
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You should not need any steroids to look the way you do. I looked like you at 15 years old in my first teenage show. The NPC Teenage New Jersey. Steroid free. Why are you on steroids?
Ah no you didn't.
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Ah no you didn't.
EXACTLY
this turd needs to stfu
btw, the only roids that i really respond to are deca and tren all tge rest have sucked ass pour moi
only ones i havent tried are halo, turnibol and primo
maybe you could design a cycle for me ;D
i will have winny, deca and test e
the test e is only fof replacement purposes and i will run it somewhere btw 125-200 mg per week
the winny was a waste but i got it so i gotta use it
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Because they are stupid. No need to take so much variety of anabolics. 1 compound is enough. I never took more than 1 anabolic at a time throughout my competitive years.
Show us your striated glutles , kind sir.
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You should not need any steroids to look the way you do. I looked like you at 15 years old in my first teenage show. The NPC Teenage New Jersey. Steroid free. Why are you on steroids?
Awesome. Any cool pics of the event?
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Awesome. Any cool pics of the event?
some coming August 6th....
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that isnt my point.
I have no idea why you are posting something that will make people think you look like you use steroids when you dont, its sort of fishing for compliments.
Let me put it this way
If you train natty for ten years or use steroids for ten years, after 6 months of stopping training and using you would look exactly the same.
People who do bodyweight exercises, tend to retain their physiques longer. How much, I don't know. But you can stop for months and still retain the "look".
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some coming August 6th....
thats ten months awway :(
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why are people taking steroids to begin with is a better question, with the positive effects being temporary and the negative effects possibly permanent.
This.....
And the lying bugs me....
Phonies, frauds and liars....
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After stopping training? Sure. If you keep training the extra muscle you built on roids doesn't all just go away.
90% of it does mate...
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This.....
And the lying bugs me....
Phonies, frauds and liars....
Why do Humans do so many things that are dangerous & harmful to themselves & often times far more harmful than taking steroids - Which in the grand scheme of Drugs are fairly innocuous.
If you can answer that you could solve a lot of problems on this earth & save a lot of lives
" The Seeds of Your Own Destruction Are Within Everyone"
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Because Chad Nicholls told them so
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People who do bodyweight exercises, tend to retain their physiques longer. How much, I don't know. But you can stop for months and still retain the "look".
True however they wont be big to begin with and would be weaklings.
I am a genetic weakling and lift baby weights. Bodyweight exercises are quite heavy for me so i get a similar benefit whereas someone genetically strong it might not work as well because there isnt enough load.