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Title: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: dan18 on October 09, 2017, 03:49:28 PM
I Have always believed in freedom of speech religion expression so on and so forth. America and what we do as a country has never been perfect our laws have been tested sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad it has worked against the minority THATS A FACT ... over many years back to Ellis island we as a country have opened our arms to all people race creed color and no not all have been treated fairly over the years myself I had family who came from Italy to Ellis island the stories my family told us of how they and many others were treated beaten spit on killed even but this was America and they made it work never once bad mouthing or turning there backs on the anthem....


black lives matter is what started all this and I agree some cops are out of control. but make a real stand if you want to make a point let the NFL players who EAT SLEEP AND MAKE MILLIONS PLAYING A GAME. Take your time and money go to the inner city start college funds through the schools to promote those who finish high school with a 3.0 GPA a part of a college fund..

All the NFL players who kneel march on congress push to have a bill passed to have cops use the rubber bullet guns they have and other means other than shoot first...


bottom line there have always been groups who have been treated badly killed and beaten through out history this is your country if you don't like whats going on work for change but get the fuck off your knees or get out...
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: NelsonMuntz on October 09, 2017, 03:59:17 PM
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Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 09, 2017, 04:08:02 PM
The Black Lives Matter movement is based on a lie.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: dan18 on October 09, 2017, 04:10:46 PM
The Black Lives Matter movement is based on a lie.
not the point but ok... all generations of people in this country have been wrong at one time but they never took a knee
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Tapeworm on October 09, 2017, 04:15:15 PM
I'm white, unpatriotic, and don't watch sports so none of this matters to me.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Andro-Kids on October 09, 2017, 04:17:12 PM
I Have always believed in freedom of speech religion expression so on and so forth. America and what we do as a country has never been perfect our laws have been tested sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad it has worked against the minority THATS A FACT ... over many years back to Ellis island we as a country have opened our arms to all people race creed color and no not all have been treated fairly over the years myself I had family who came from Italy to Ellis island the stories my family told us of how they and many others were treated beaten spit on killed even but this was America and they made it work never once bad mouthing or turning there backs on the anthem....


black lives matter is what started all this and I agree some cops are out of control. but make a real stand if you want to make a point let the NFL players who EAT SLEEP AND MAKE MILLIONS PLAYING A GAME. Take your time and money go to the inner city start college funds through the schools to promote those who finish high school with a 3.0 GPA a part of a college fund..

All the NFL players who kneel march on congress push to have a bill passed to have cops use the rubber bullet guns they have and other means other than shoot first...


bottom line there have always been groups who have been treated badly killed and beaten through out history this is your country if you don't like whats going on work for change but get the fuck off your knees or get out...
You want to be compelled to salute flags? Move to North Korea. We do as we please here in America.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 09, 2017, 04:28:54 PM
not the point but ok... all generations of people in this country have been wrong at one time but they never took a knee

All these "take a knee" phaggots can suck my (abnormally large) white, Christian, red-blooded American cock.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Andro-Kids on October 09, 2017, 04:32:08 PM
All these "take a knee" phaggots can suck my (abnormally large) white, Christian, red-blooded American cock.
Moron
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Eric2 on October 09, 2017, 04:35:52 PM
Every citizen in this nation owes a debt. A debt of gratitude. As a child it starts in school with honoring the flag, the very symbol of freedom. Not just American freedom, world freedom. Some children are in the boy scouts and girls scouts. Organizations put in place to instill pride and build character in American youth. For the men who built this nation thru blood sweat and tears, the flag stands. For the men whom fought and died for this nation, the flag stands. For the men whom make many millions of dollars playing a childs game and choose to not stand................the flag still stands.
    To the men in football jerseys who do not stand for the flag, who do so for the issues of racial injustice, I ask this. What other than taking a knee have you done to  raise the needle to the direction you are wanting. Are you in the poor communities speaking with your brethren about drug use? Are you telling the youth that violence is not the way? Are you incouraging the youth to get out of the ghetto and improve themselves with education, a job skill, trade skill? Are you talking with the young women about birth control and fatherless children? Are you talking to the youth and telling them that in America color does not matter. That in America anyone willing to work hard enough will improve themselves.
    Until then you have no right to disgrace the very symbol that gives you freedom to play a childs game reaping many millions for doing so very little. Football is not a job, its a fucking game.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 09, 2017, 04:36:03 PM
Moron

Whatever you say you estrogen dominant phaggot.  Go find a girlfriend so I can fuck her right in front of you.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Andro-Kids on October 09, 2017, 04:39:58 PM
Whatever you say you estrogen dominant phaggot.  Go find a girlfriend so I can fuck her right in front of you.
Weak.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 09, 2017, 04:44:56 PM
Weak.

You're not man enough to fuck with me.  I'd hit you so hard you'd shit your pants and have a seizure.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Straw Man on October 09, 2017, 04:47:03 PM
I Have always believed in freedom of speech religion expression so on and so forth. America and what we do as a country has never been perfect our laws have been tested sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad it has worked against the minority THATS A FACT ... over many years back to Ellis island we as a country have opened our arms to all people race creed color and no not all have been treated fairly over the years myself I had family who came from Italy to Ellis island the stories my family told us of how they and many others were treated beaten spit on killed even but this was America and they made it work never once bad mouthing or turning there backs on the anthem....


black lives matter is what started all this and I agree some cops are out of control. but make a real stand if you want to make a point let the NFL players who EAT SLEEP AND MAKE MILLIONS PLAYING A GAME. Take your time and money go to the inner city start college funds through the schools to promote those who finish high school with a 3.0 GPA a part of a college fund..

All the NFL players who kneel march on congress push to have a bill passed to have cops use the rubber bullet guns they have and other means other than shoot first...


bottom line there have always been groups who have been treated badly killed and beaten through out history this is your country if you don't like whats going on work for change but get the fuck off your knees or get out...

just curious, when did we agree that kneeling was disrespectful?
I must have missed that vote

I don't see any problem with peaceful, non-violent political protest.
Some people might find it uncomfortable or distasteful just as others might find KKK marches or the Westborough Baptist Church distasteful.  Same way they might find pro-life or pro-choice distasteful
That's actually a protected right in this country and actually part of what the flag represents.

290 Protesters were arrested in Russia over the weekend

Quote
St. Petersburg, Russia (CNN)Russian police arrested 290 protesters in 26 cities as marches took place against President Vladimir Putin on the leader's 65th birthday, according to independent monitoring group OVD.

Thousands attended the marches on Saturday, held by supporters of Putin's only real political opponent, activist Alexei Navalny, who is serving a 20-day jail term for organizing an unauthorized public meeting.
It is very difficult to legally organize protests in Russia, where public assembly laws have been tightened several times since Putin's current presidential term began in 2012.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/08/europe/russia-protest-navalny-putin/index.html
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: dan18 on October 09, 2017, 04:54:50 PM
just curious, when did we agree that kneeling was disrespectful?
I must have missed that vote

I don't see any problem with peaceful, non-violent political protest.
Some people might find it uncomfortable or distasteful just as others might find KKK marches or the Westborough Baptist Church distasteful.  Same way they might find pro-life or pro-choice distasteful
That's actually a protected right in this country and actually part of what the flag represents.

290 Protesters were arrested in Russia over the weekend

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/08/europe/russia-protest-navalny-putin/index.html
standing is a sign of pride kneeling is a sign of disrespect everyone has a right to protest but if you read my post there are other ways other than showing disrespect to a country that has given theses players a good way of life let them live in Russia and see what kind of life they would have
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: denarii on October 09, 2017, 04:58:59 PM
when are they going to protest the brew on brew violence that plagues late night chicken shops?
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 09, 2017, 04:59:31 PM
standing is a sign of pride kneeling is a sign of disrespect everyone has a right to protest but if you read my post there are other ways other than showing disrespect to a country that has given theses players a good way of life let them live in Russia and see what kind of life they would have

These chocolate faced idiots aren't sophisticated enough to understand a concept like that.  Plus, he dindu nuffin.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 09, 2017, 05:02:11 PM
when are they going to protest the brew on brew violence that plagues late night chicken shops?

They aren't, because they are fundamentally dishonest.  Chicago is a fucking war zone but since the killers and the victims are both black all these activists don't give a fuck.

They only care about things that serve their victimhood narrative.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Straw Man on October 09, 2017, 05:09:45 PM
standing is a sign of pride kneeling is a sign of disrespect everyone has a right to protest but if you read my post there are other ways other than showing disrespect to a country that has given theses players a good way of life let them live in Russia and see what kind of life they would have

you're certainly entitled to your own opinion but that's all it is...your opinion

Here's a picture of WWII Vet John Middlemas kneeling in solidarity with the NFL players and he said "“Those kids have every right to protest.”

You see, everyone can have a different opinion in this country

It's part of what makes us a great country

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/25/ww2-veteran-97-kneels-in-support-protesting-athletes.html
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 09, 2017, 05:10:15 PM
They aren't, because they are fundamentally dishonest.  Chicago is a fucking war zone but since the killers and the victims are both black all these activists don't give a fuck.

They only care about things that serve their victimhood narrative.

The players got what they wanted in Chicago and violent crime went through the roof. People don’t want to acknowledge the existence of trade-offs. Either you have aggressive policing in these areas or out of control crime. Pick your poison.


Chicago Police Street Stops Decrease Dramatically Amid Sinking Morale - The Loop - Chicago - DNAinfo


https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160113/loop/chicago-police-street-stops-decrease-dramatically-amid-sinking-morale
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Parker on October 09, 2017, 05:44:43 PM
These chocolate faced idiots aren't sophisticated enough to understand a concept like that.  Plus, he dindu nuffin.
Quote
Student's all over the world today are standing up for their rights and fighting for their rights, but here in America, the so-called Negro students have allowed themselves to be maneuvered under a tag of "sit-in". The word sit itself is not an honorable tag, anybody can sit, and old woman can sit, a coward can sit, a baby can sit, anything can sit, but it takes a man to stand.

Malcolm X
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: LittleJ on October 09, 2017, 05:52:47 PM
These chocolate faced idiots aren't sophisticated enough to understand a concept like that.  Plus, he dindu nuffin.

Who taught you to hate?
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 09, 2017, 05:58:40 PM
Malcolm X





Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: J. Richards on October 09, 2017, 06:02:05 PM
Protest all you want....but on your own time...
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 09, 2017, 06:02:47 PM
I Have always believed in freedom of speech religion expression so on and so forth. America and what we do as a country has never been perfect our laws have been tested sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad it has worked against the minority THATS A FACT ... over many years back to Ellis island we as a country have opened our arms to all people race creed color and no not all have been treated fairly over the years myself I had family who came from Italy to Ellis island the stories my family told us of how they and many others were treated beaten spit on killed even but this was America and they made it work never once bad mouthing or turning there backs on the anthem....


black lives matter is what started all this and I agree some cops are out of control. but make a real stand if you want to make a point let the NFL players who EAT SLEEP AND MAKE MILLIONS PLAYING A GAME. Take your time and money go to the inner city start college funds through the schools to promote those who finish high school with a 3.0 GPA a part of a college fund..

All the NFL players who kneel march on congress push to have a bill passed to have cops use the rubber bullet guns they have and other means other than shoot first...


bottom line there have always been groups who have been treated badly killed and beaten through out history this is your country if you don't like whats going on work for change but get the fuck off your knees or get out...


What you said about ellis island isn't true. This myth that liberal whites like to perpetuate of america letting people of all colors immigrate here is nothing but a lie. It is true that italians and the irish were treated like shit, in fact during slavery the irish sold for less than half of Africans.

During the colonial era immigrants came to America seeking economic opportunities. However, because the price of passage was steep, an estimated one-half or more of the white Europeans who made the voyage did so by becoming indentured servants. Although some people voluntarily indentured themselves, others were kidnapped in European cities and forced into servitude in America. Additionally, thousands of English convicts were shipped across the Atlantic as indentured servants.

The following is cut and paste. You want sources? They're everywhere. America isn't a melting pot, it never will be, that wasn't the intention of it's Anglo Saxon founding fathers, they wanted it to be a white nation. This is the bullshit you've been fed through the school system and every form of media for the last 50 years. Remember that blacks were considered 3/5 of a man, subhuman according to the constitution. What does this tell you?

Any dumb fucking white man who parrots this same nonsense needs to educate himself on the history of America's immigration
laws.


IMMIGRATION IN THE MID-19TH CENTURY
Another major wave of immigration occurred from around 1815 to 1865. The majority of these newcomers hailed from Northern and Western Europe. Approximately one-third came from Ireland, which experienced a massive famine in the mid-19th century. In the 1840s, almost half of America’s immigrants were from Ireland alone. Typically impoverished, these Irish immigrants settled near their point of arrival in cities along the East Coast. Between 1820 and 1930, some 4.5 million Irish migrated to the United States.

Also in the 19th century, the United States received some 5 million German immigrants. Many of them journeyed to the present-day Midwest to buy farms or congregated in such cities as Milwaukee, St. Louis and Cincinnati. In the national census of 2000, more Americans claimed German ancestry than any other group.

During the mid-1800s, a significant number of Asian immigrants settled in the United States. Lured by news of the California gold rush, some 25,000 Chinese had migrated there by the early 1850s.

The influx of newcomers resulted in anti-immigrant sentiment among certain factions of America’s native-born, predominantly Anglo-Saxon Protestant population. The new arrivals were often seen as unwanted competition for jobs, while many Catholics–especially the Irish–experienced discrimination for their religious beliefs. In the 1850s, the anti-immigrant, anti-Catholic American Party (also called the Know-Nothings) tried to severely curb immigration, and even ran a candidate, former U.S. president Millard Fillmore (1800-1874), in the presidential election of 1956.

Following the Civil War, the United States experienced a depression in the 1870s that contributed to a slowdown in immigration.

ELLIS ISLAND AND FEDERAL IMMIGRATION REGULATION
One of the first significant pieces of federal legislation aimed at restricting immigration was the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, which banned Chinese laborers from coming to America. Californians had agitated for the new law, blaming the Chinese, who were willing to work for less, for a decline in wages.

For much of the 1900s, the federal government had left immigration policy to individual states. However, by the final decade of the century, the government decided it needed to step in to handle the ever-increasing influx of newcomers. In 1890, President Benjamin Harrison (1833-1901) designated Ellis Island, located in New York Harbor near the Statue of Liberty, as a federal immigration station. More than 12 million immigrants entered the United States through Ellis Island during its years of operation from 1892 to 1954.

EUROPEAN IMMIGRATION: 1880-1920
Between 1880 and 1920, a time of rapid industrialization and urbanization, America received more than 20 million immigrants. Beginning in the 1890s, the majority of arrivals were from Central, Eastern and Southern Europe. In that decade alone, some 600,000 Italians migrated to America, and by 1920 more than 4 million had entered the United States. Jews from Eastern Europe fleeing religious persecution also arrived in large numbers; over 2 million entered the United States between 1880 and 1920.

The peak year for admission of new immigrants was 1907, when approximately 1.3 million people entered the country legally. Within a decade, the outbreak of World War I (1914-1918) caused a decline in immigration. In 1917, Congress enacted legislation requiring immigrants over 16 to pass a literacy test, and in the early 1920s immigration quotas were established. The Immigration Act of 1924 created a quota system that restricted entry to 2 percent of the total number of people of each nationality in America as of the 1890 national census–a system that favored immigrants from Western Europe–and prohibited immigrants from Asia.

THE IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY ACT OF 1965
Immigration plummeted during the global depression of the 1930s and World War II (1939-1945). Between 1930 and 1950, America’s foreign-born population decreased from 14.2 to 10.3 million, or from 11.6 to 6.9 percent of the total population, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. After the war, Congress passed special legislation enabling refugees from Europe and the Soviet Union to enter the United States. Following the communist revolution in Cuba in 1959, hundreds of thousands of refugees from that island nation also gained admittance to the United States.

In 1965, Congress passed the Immigration and Nationality Act, which did away with quotas based on nationality and allowed Americans to sponsor relatives from their countries of origin. As a result of this act and subsequent legislation, the nation experienced a shift in immigration patterns. Today, the majority of U.S. immigrants come from Asia and Latin America rather than Europe.












Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Straw Man on October 09, 2017, 06:24:41 PM
Malcolm X

Hopefully you're not suggesting the MalcomX would have wanted them to "stand" for the national anthem

here's another quote from MalcomX

Quote
“No, I’m not an American. I’m one of 22 million black people who are the victims of Americanism. One of the … victims of democracy, nothing but disguised hypocrisy. So I’m not standing here speaking to you as an American, or a patriot, or a flag-saluter, or a flag-waver – no, not I! I’m speaking as a victim of this American system. I don’t see any American dream; I see an American nightmare!”
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: LittleJ on October 09, 2017, 06:27:47 PM
Protest all you want....but on your own time...

Whose time is it?
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Parker on October 09, 2017, 06:31:42 PM
Hopefully you're not suggesting the MalcomX would have wanted them to "stand" for the national anthem

here's another quote from MalcomX

I am suggesting that the black men have been "maneuvered" (by their own doing) into kneeling, just like with the "sit ins". They could stand with their fists in the air.






I have watched all of these, and he is correct. Especially the 1st and second one.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: J. Richards on October 09, 2017, 06:41:30 PM
who's time,,??   they are at "work".... period....  i surely cannot kneel and protest during the workday..... not sure many could.... play your game... make your big $$ chasing a little leather ball.... but air your complaints before  entering the stadium or after the game  ....... troll me all day... idc... Semper Fi..
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Straw Man on October 09, 2017, 06:46:29 PM
I am suggesting that the black men have been "maneuvered" (by their own doing) into kneeling, just like with the "sit ins". They could stand with their fists in the air.
I have watched all of these, and he is correct. Especially the 1st and second one.

interesting perspective

Colin Kaepernick was maneuvered into kneeling by his own doing?

I don't understand how that works

It is an interesting point that you bring up

When Trump decided to pick this fight (something we all know he loves to do, especially when he thinks he can bully someone) there were only about 10 players kneeling

The next weekend there were ~ 200 or 250 so maybe Trump is the one who maneuvered them into kneeling

Do you think people who protest the kneeling would be any less riled up if they stood with their fists in the air and maybe wearing a black glove?

btw - the sit ins had nothing to do with just "sitting"

They could have sat in the park if it was just about sitting

They served a purpose and many of them were arrested and it was just because they happened to be sitting



Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: HTexan on October 09, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
I Have always believed in freedom of speech religion expression so on and so forth. America and what we do as a country has never been perfect our laws have been tested sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad it has worked against the minority THATS A FACT ... over many years back to Ellis island we as a country have opened our arms to all people race creed color and no not all have been treated fairly over the years myself I had family who came from Italy to Ellis island the stories my family told us of how they and many others were treated beaten spit on killed even but this was America and they made it work never once bad mouthing or turning there backs on the anthem....


black lives matter is what started all this and I agree some cops are out of control. but make a real stand if you want to make a point let the NFL players who EAT SLEEP AND MAKE MILLIONS PLAYING A GAME. Take your time and money go to the inner city start college funds through the schools to promote those who finish high school with a 3.0 GPA a part of a college fund..

All the NFL players who kneel march on congress push to have a bill passed to have cops use the rubber bullet guns they have and other means other than shoot first...


bottom line there have always been groups who have been treated badly killed and beaten through out history this is your country if you don't like whats going on work for change but get the fuck off your knees or get out...
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Funny how people forget that other Americans have the right to peaceful protest.
Disrespect the flag? Get the fuck out of here. Hell, you can legally burn a flag, it is part of freedom.
Do I stand for the flag? Absolutely, but do others have the right not too? Yes. Freedom is awesome.
I don’t understand what losers are getting out of bitching about what others do within their legal rights. If you don’t like it, stop watching fucking NFL! That is the only “get out” that is involved.

Oh and P.S. my dad is a disabled Veteran so he is 1000 Times the man you are.  ;)
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 09, 2017, 06:56:10 PM
you're certainly entitled to your own opinion but that's all it is...your opinion

Here's a picture of WWII Vet John Middlemas kneeling in solidarity with the NFL players and he said "“Those kids have every right to protest.”

You see, everyone can have a different opinion in this country

It's part of what makes us a great country

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/25/ww2-veteran-97-kneels-in-support-protesting-athletes.html

They took advantage of an old man with dementia.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 09, 2017, 07:01:45 PM
The Black Lives Matter movement is based on a lie.

As is Antifa
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Marty Champions on October 09, 2017, 07:12:54 PM
pro sport fans are familys who eat meat drink beer n easily entertained,  this breed just keeps getting reborn, they have no other interests in life
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Straw Man on October 09, 2017, 07:23:03 PM
They took advantage of an old man with dementia.

I'm sure you wouldn't be the kind of person to libel a WWII veteran by accusing him of this so you must have some proof of this claim that he has dementia and was taken advantage of

 
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Parker on October 09, 2017, 07:23:58 PM
interesting perspective

Colin Kaepernick was maneuvered into kneeling by his own doing?

I don't understand how that works

It is an interesting point that you bring up

When Trump decided to pick this fight (something we all know he loves to do, especially when he thinks he can bully someone) there were only about 10 players kneeling

The next weekend there were ~ 200 or 250 so maybe Trump is the one who maneuvered them into kneeling

Do you think people who protest the kneeling would be any less riled up if they stood with their fists in the air and maybe wearing a black glove?

btw - the sit ins had nothing to do with just "sitting"

They could have sat in the park if it was just about sitting

They served a purpose and many of them were arrested and it was just because they happened to be sitting




Not Colin but the others. And Trump should have stayed out of it. Yet, he is doing what Obama was accused of doing.

At this point, people will be riled up either way. People got riled up when players had taken a knee before the anthem. But, if they stand and raised their fist, people cannot say that they are being disrespectful, because people used to do the Bellamy salute the flag during the Pledge of Allegiance.

You can't be that dense to what Malcolm was saying. He was saying that it was form of weakness. Which it is.
The success was what? Yes, many were arrested for staging sit ins of white establishments that wouldn't serve them.
Here is the full quote:
Quote
Rather than to force our way into someone else's restaurant or public place that they have established, we should get our own. Once we have our own, we're respected for the fact that we can create our own. That's equality right there.

 

Also, read the paragraph above the one you posted (from Malcolm X's 1964 speech The Ballot or The Bullet), it gives more context to what you posted


Malcolm was ahead of his time. In regards to the second part of the quote I posted, he has echoed what many before him have said. Even Thomas Sowell has said this now.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 09, 2017, 08:36:16 PM
just curious, when did we agree that kneeling was disrespectful?
I must have missed that vote

I don't see any problem with peaceful, non-violent political protest.
Some people might find it uncomfortable or distasteful just as others might find KKK marches or the Westborough Baptist Church distasteful.  Same way they might find pro-life or pro-choice distasteful
That's actually a protected right in this country and actually part of what the flag represents.

290 Protesters were arrested in Russia over the weekend

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/08/europe/russia-protest-navalny-putin/index.html
Good post
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 09, 2017, 09:55:15 PM
Miami Dolphins Offensive Line Coach Records Himself Doing Lines Of Coke!

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh3kXDWv0vj6vdIWp9

Wtf??!!!
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Parker on October 10, 2017, 06:45:20 AM
Miami Dolphins Offensive Line Coach Records Himself Doing Lines Of Coke!

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh3kXDWv0vj6vdIWp9

Wtf??!!!
The chick he was talking about.
 https://www.google.com/amp/amp.miamiherald.com/entertainment/article177849991.html (https://www.google.com/amp/amp.miamiherald.com/entertainment/article177849991.html)

 https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4963920/amp/Woman-reveals-posted-Miami-Dolphins-coach-video.html (https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4963920/amp/Woman-reveals-posted-Miami-Dolphins-coach-video.html)
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: LittleJ on October 10, 2017, 07:19:40 AM
who's time,,??   they are at "work".... period....  i surely cannot kneel and protest during the workday..... not sure many could.... play your game... make your big $$ chasing a little leather ball.... but air your complaints before  entering the stadium or after the game  ....... troll me all day... idc... Semper Fi..

Welcome to North Korea
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: dan18 on October 10, 2017, 07:21:16 AM
who's time,,??   they are at "work".... period....  i surely cannot kneel and protest during the workday..... not sure many could.... play your game... make your big $$ chasing a little leather ball.... but air your complaints before  entering the stadium or after the game  ....... troll me all day... idc... Semper Fi..
ooooooh rah devil dog leather neck brother
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: falco on October 10, 2017, 07:28:05 AM
Blacklivesmatter is how the left keeps the hebrews still enslaved, by endocrination.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: dan18 on October 10, 2017, 07:29:54 AM
We could debate this until the day we die
1. everyone has a right to protest no one is taking that away from them
2. there is a time and place they chose to make themselves look relevant; where was the protest when black gang members are killing there own every day..they didn't kneel then.
3. respect the nation you live in and make a living in there are other ways to protest.
4. we all have a reason to take a knee jews blacks Asians whites every nationality we are a mix pot of people but we don't kneel we use our voices we take action for change.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: mazrim on October 10, 2017, 07:31:31 AM
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Funny how people forget that other Americans have the right to peaceful protest.
Disrespect the flag? Get the fuck out of here. Hell, you can legally burn a flag, it is part of freedom.
Do I stand for the flag? Absolutely, but do others have the right not too? Yes. Freedom is awesome.
I don’t understand what losers are getting out of bitching about what others do within their legal rights. If you don’t like it, stop watching fucking NFL! That is the only “get out” that is involved.

Oh and P.S. my dad is a disabled Veteran so he is 1000 Times the man you are.  ;)
Why are you bitching about what others do within their legal rights?
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: dan18 on October 10, 2017, 07:44:06 AM
Why are you bitching about what others do within their legal rights?
its a discussion points of view no bitching, thoughts expressions we all have them if you have anything intelligent to say then say it
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: SF1900 on October 10, 2017, 07:49:38 AM
Why are you bitching about what others do within their legal rights?

So, to sum all of this up:

1) Everyone has a constitutional right to protest.
2) People are going to bitch and moan when they don't agree with the protests of the other side, even if its a peaceful protest.
3) People will continue to protest areas of life where they feel needs reform.
4) We should move on.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: dan18 on October 10, 2017, 07:52:07 AM
And just to prove what I meant about relevant kapernick started the whole thing his career about over and he knew it, where was he a few years back when he was at his peak no kneeling then wasn't going to jeopardize his career he started this shit when he was on his way out..................... ............... yea he cares
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 10, 2017, 07:52:32 AM
Football is the easiest of all the major sports to not watch. It has the shortest season and the most consolidated schedule. The on-field product is mediocre at best. The televised presentation is a drawn out mess  that stretches a one hour game into a four hour ordeal. Going to one of these games is a giant pain in the ass and once you get there you get raped at every turn: ticket prices, concessions and parking.

This kneeling deal is just the cherry on top of a shit Sundae on Sunday.

Find something else to do. It’s not that hard if you try.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on October 10, 2017, 08:09:46 AM
Football is the easiest of all the major sports to not watch. It has the shortest season and the most consolidated schedule. The on-field product is mediocre at best. The televised presentation is a drawn out mess  that stretches a one hour game into a four hour ordeal. Going to one of these games is a giant pain in the ass and once you get there you get raped at every turn: ticket prices, concessions and parking.

This kneeling deal is just the cherry on top of a shit Sundae on Sunday.

Find something else to do. It’s not that hard if you try.

Amen TL.  Sports is a waste of money and your precious time.  I cannot imagine spending all weekend in front of tv watching/supporting these spoiled rich brats playing a game.  You sports freaks here need to wake the fuck up... you are being used.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: SF1900 on October 10, 2017, 08:39:38 AM
Go to a museum or zoo or for a hike, instead of watching football.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: residue on October 10, 2017, 08:43:37 AM
when are they going to protest the brew on brew violence that plagues late night chicken shops?

This is the stupidest argument ever. When deshaun kills tyrone he ends up in jail, they're more than enough metrics to back that up. Secondly cops should be held to a higher standard
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Simple Simon on October 10, 2017, 08:48:45 AM
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Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Parker on October 10, 2017, 08:49:06 AM
This is the stupidest argument ever. When deshaun kills tyrone he ends up in jail, they're more than enough metrics to back that up. Secondly cops should be held to a higher standard
That's if anybody saw it, or will speak, or the witnesses haven't been killed.
In theory yes. In practice? Take a look at this nation, it is going downhill fast. Who wants to be cop, with the pay that some police agencies pay? And then many don't have enough gun training, there is limited hand to hand combat skills given.
Go to a museum or zoo or for a hike, instead of watching football.
Cultural Enrichment, learning about flora and fauna, or which berries NOT to eat, is possibly expecting too much from some Getbiggers.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: SF1900 on October 10, 2017, 09:00:10 AM
That's if anybody saw it, or will speak, or the witnesses haven't been killed.
In theory yes. In practice? Take a look at this nation, it is going downhill fast. Who wants to be cop, with the pay that some police agencies pay? And then many don't have enough gun training, there is limited hand to hand combat skills given. Cultural Enrichment, learning about flora and fauna, or which berries NOT to eat, is possibly expecting too much from some Getbiggers.

I guess football is the alternative.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Parker on October 10, 2017, 09:20:14 AM
I guess football is the alternative.
I would like to see Phil Heath's two cents on this matter. And since he likes to take long jogs on stretches of road, and bubble baths while reading the latest Heavy Hitters magazine, I believe he may surprise us with a very informative viewpoint.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 10, 2017, 09:25:05 AM
This is the stupidest argument ever. When deshaun kills tyrone he ends up in jail, they're more than enough metrics to back that up. Secondly cops should be held to a higher standard

Do you ever get tired of being wrong so often? Here’s an actual prosecutor talking about the biggest reason that black homicides go unpunished:

Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: robcguns on October 10, 2017, 10:56:54 AM
Fuck Malcolm x and mlk.Fuck anyone taking a knee.Go the back to whatever country it is your from and get fucked.white pride nation wide.Stand proud and strong.nfl players should thank god they are living the easy life cause if no nfl then they would be street thugs and be dead or in jail how about standing for the country that gave your worthless asses these opportunities that many have died fighting for.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 10, 2017, 11:31:13 AM
Fuck Malcolm x and mlk.Fuck anyone taking a knee.Go the back to whatever country it is your from and get fucked.white pride nation wide.Stand proud and strong.nfl players should thank god they are living the easy life cause if no nfl then they would be street thugs and be dead or in jail how about standing for the country that gave your worthless asses these opportunities that many have died fighting for.

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Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: HTexan on October 10, 2017, 04:05:07 PM
So, to sum all of this up:

1) Everyone has a constitutional right to protest.
2) People are going to bitch and moan when they don't agree with the protests of the other side, even if its a peaceful protest.
3) People will continue to protest areas of life where they feel needs reform.
4) We should move on.

this.
Why are you bitching about what others do within their legal rights?
you can not read huh?
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 10, 2017, 05:33:08 PM
standing is a sign of pride kneeling is a sign of disrespect everyone has a right to protest but if you read my post there are other ways other than showing disrespect to a country that has given theses players a good way of life let them live in Russia and see what kind of life they would have

Tell Jesus and Kings that,,,
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 10, 2017, 05:35:25 PM
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Funny how people forget that other Americans have the right to peaceful protest.
Disrespect the flag? Get the fuck out of here. Hell, you can legally burn a flag, it is part of freedom.
Do I stand for the flag? Absolutely, but do others have the right not too? Yes. Freedom is awesome.
I don’t understand what losers are getting out of bitching about what others do within their legal rights. If you don’t like it, stop watching fucking NFL! That is the only “get out” that is involved.

Oh and P.S. my dad is a disabled Veteran so he is 1000 Times the man you are.  ;)

 :)
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 10, 2017, 05:37:37 PM
So, to sum all of this up:

1) Everyone has a constitutional right to protest.
2) People are going to bitch and moan when they don't agree with the protests of the other side, even if its a peaceful protest.
3) People will continue to protest areas of life where they feel needs reform.
4) We should move on.

pretty much
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 10, 2017, 05:38:21 PM
This is the stupidest argument ever. When deshaun kills tyrone he ends up in jail, they're more than enough metrics to back that up. Secondly cops should be held to a higher standard

can't argue that...
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Skylge on October 10, 2017, 08:48:05 PM
I'm white, unpatriotic, and don't watch sports so none of this matters to me.

People who watch sports a lot and think that sports-watching is really, really important are highly pathetic and dumb

Over commercialized all made up fake bs marketing hype: football, baseball, basketball, "nascar" is that a sport?


(I only watch women's beach volleyball  ;-)
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Kwon on October 10, 2017, 10:35:19 PM
Trying to make Lil Wayne support BLM?

Lil Wayne says he's NEVER encountered any racism from another group, he is blessed!

Talk about disappointed hosts :D


"It was a white police man that came up, stopped and said, 'What the fuck y'all doin'?!
Do y'all not see this fucking baby on the floor?!'

And they said, 'We called all the ambulance damnit!'

He said, 'Ambulance?!

He's got a hole in his chest!' He picked me up and brought me to the hospital himself. He was white."

-Lil' Wayne
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 11, 2017, 01:27:30 AM
can't argue that...


I just did. You obviously have a cognitive dissonance in this area:



Do you ever get tired of being wrong so often? Here’s an actual prosecutor talking about the biggest reason that black homicides go unpunished:




Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: robcguns on October 11, 2017, 05:55:10 AM
Trying to make Lil Wayne support BLM?

Lil Wayne says he's NEVER encountered any racism from another group, he is blessed!

Talk about disappointed hosts :D


"It was a white police man that came up, stopped and said, 'What the fuck y'all doin'?!
Do y'all not see this fucking baby on the floor?!'

And they said, 'We called all the ambulance damnit!'

He said, 'Ambulance?!

He's got a hole in his chest!' He picked me up and brought me to the hospital himself. He was white."

-Lil' Wayne

Not a bad video,always thought lil Wayne was a fucking moron due to looking like he does but he actually seems normal and somewhat smart.i like how he says it was a white cop that saved him.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Kwon on October 11, 2017, 10:55:39 AM
Not a bad video,always thought lil Wayne was a fucking moron due to looking like he does but he actually seems normal and somewhat smart.i like how he says it was a white cop that saved him.

Same here.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Man of Steel on October 11, 2017, 11:28:18 AM
Standing or kneeling isn't a definite sign of respect.  When players get hurt they often kneel in respect.  Others don't kneel but are still respectful.  Stand, sit, kneel, march, hoot, hollar, etc in those moments.

What demonstrates your respect is how you conduct yourself outside those moments.....the real part.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 11, 2017, 01:44:54 PM
(http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/403/138/3138403.gif)

He is waisting/spilling a lot of beer like this. I dont get it.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: HTexan on October 11, 2017, 07:47:50 PM
He is waisting/spilling a lot of beer like this. I dont get it.
X2 what a wasteful unamerican pussy.  >:(
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 11, 2017, 07:53:31 PM
Standing or kneeling isn't a definite sign of respect.  When players get hurt they often kneel in respect.  Others don't kneel but are still respectful.  Stand, sit, kneel, march, hoot, hollar, etc in those moments.

What demonstrates your respect is how you conduct yourself outside those moments.....the real part.

 :)
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: SF1900 on October 11, 2017, 08:03:48 PM
:)

So, again, to sum it up:

1) Everyone has a constitutional right to protest.
2) People are going to bitch and moan when they don't agree with the protests of the other side, even if its a peaceful protest.
3) People will continue to protest areas of life where they feel needs reform.
4) We should move on.

 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 11, 2017, 08:13:16 PM
So, again, to sum it up:

1) Everyone has a constitutional right to protest.
2) People are going to bitch and moan when they don't agree with the protests of the other side, even if its a peaceful protest.
3) People will continue to protest areas of life where they feel needs reform.
4) We should move on.

 :D :D :D :D

end of thread
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: SF1900 on October 11, 2017, 08:15:47 PM
end of thread

There are some protests I agree with and some protests I don't agree with.

With that in mind, I can either conduct a counter-protest or I can just respect their constitutional rights.

However, I don't see a point of bitching and moaning about it on getbig.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 11, 2017, 08:23:13 PM
So, to sum all of this up:

1) Everyone has a constitutional right to protest.
2) People are going to bitch and moan when they don't agree with the protests of the other side, even if its a peaceful protest.
3) People will continue to protest areas of life where they feel needs reform.
4) We should move on.


1) Everyone has a constitutional right to protest.
2) People don't like it when entitled multi-millionaire douchebags pretend to be victims.
3) Negros will continue to protest every area of life in order to guilt whites into giving them more free shit.
4) We should tell them to fuck off and stop watching their silly sporting events so they will be forced to get real jobs.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 11, 2017, 08:23:44 PM
There are some protests I agree with and some protests I don't agree with.

With that in mind, I can either conduct a counter-protest or I can just respect their constitutional rights.

However, I don't see a point of bitching and moaning about it on getbig.

I've had to protect KKK members during their rally, I've had to protect BLM members during their rally. I didn't agree with either group, but I respected their right to peacefully protest. That's part of what I like about our country.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 11, 2017, 08:34:55 PM
BLM peaceful?  lol

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/08/16/3613E98500000578-3680097-image-m-76_1467991878884.jpg)

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(http://web.vtc.edu/users/ers07230/Final%20Project/Images/Military/bomb%20robot.jpg)

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Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 11, 2017, 08:49:25 PM
BLM for me.. being a career police officer, lost their credibility in 2 ways. One, they protested clearly justified shootings, almost to the point ANY deadly force used against a black person was considered police brutality. You just can't have a reasonable dialogue with people like that. 2. Some of the crowd used the protests that were initially peaceful, to take out their frustration on innocent businesses and property, making it about violence and property damage. I think at this point they are a lost cause. It's sad because there are examples where police have screwed up and need to be held accountable. There are instances where it seemed, some cops actions against minorities have been down played and consequences were little more than slaps on the wrists. We do need to talk about that.  There is room for improvement.. most cops I worked with are very open to bridging that gap, but when you start saying every shooting of a black man or woman is unjust, we just can't meet in the middle on that...
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 11, 2017, 11:51:27 PM
BLM for me.. being a career police officer, lost their credibility in 2 ways. One, they protested clearly justified shootings, almost to the point ANY deadly force used against a black person was considered police brutality. You just can't have a reasonable dialogue with people like that. 2. Some of the crowd used the protests that were initially peaceful, to take out their frustration on innocent businesses and property, making it about violence and property damage. I think at this point they are a lost cause. It's sad because there are examples where police have screwed up and need to be held accountable. There are instances where it seemed, some cops actions against minorities have been down played and consequences were little more than slaps on the wrists. We do need to talk about that.  There is room for improvement.. most cops I worked with are very open to bridging that gap, but when you start saying every shooting of a black man or woman is unjust, we just can't meet in the middle on that...

I didn't know you were a cop.  Maybe I did but just forgot.  Thank you for doing a thankless job.

I don't think people realize how fast things happen and how little time you have to think when you are in a situation when you may need to use deadly force.

It's very easy to be a Monday morning quarterback but not so easy when you are in the line of fire and accountable for your decisions.  This is an excellent video on the subject and I think people should watch.



Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 12, 2017, 02:25:20 AM
BLM for me.. being a career police officer, lost their credibility in 2 ways. One, they protested clearly justified shootings, almost to the point ANY deadly force used against a black person was considered police brutality. You just can't have a reasonable dialogue with people like that. 2. Some of the crowd used the protests that were initially peaceful, to take out their frustration on innocent businesses and property, making it about violence and property damage. I think at this point they are a lost cause. It's sad because there are examples where police have screwed up and need to be held accountable. There are instances where it seemed, some cops actions against minorities have been down played and consequences were little more than slaps on the wrists. We do need to talk about that.  There is room for improvement.. most cops I worked with are very open to bridging that gap, but when you start saying every shooting of a black man or woman is unjust, we just can't meet in the middle on that...

I don’t know where you worked, but I’ve had family and friends on the job in some pretty bad parts of NYC. From what I’ve seen, most cops there are perfectly happy not to get overly  involved as doing so only gets you in trouble via complaints from people looking to hit the ghetto lottery by winning a lawsuit against the city.

Sure, there are some bad cops but the reality is they are more likely to be set up than the other way around. And the idea that the police are the primary cause of the problems in the African American community is a joke.
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 12, 2017, 09:57:36 AM
I don’t know where you worked, but I’ve had family and friends on the job in some pretty bad parts of NYC. From what I’ve seen, most cops there are perfectly happy not to get overly  involved as doing so only gets you in trouble via complaints from people looking to hit the ghetto lottery by winning a lawsuit against the city.

Sure, there are some bad cops but the reality is they are more likely to be set up than the other way around. And the idea that the police are the primary cause of the problems in the African American community is a joke.

I was in Austin Tx. I agree the concept that Cops are their biggest problem is false. But having spent 10 years in the Military policing and 24 years in the civilian world starting out as a rookie and retiring at the Commander rank I will be the first to say police departments and police in general have room for improvement and that is certainly worth discussing. But yes, in my opinion just based on my experience and talking to other officers from Departments around the country, most cops the vast majority are good cops trying to catch bad guys and serve their communities and hate bad cops more than the public does. We need to recalibrate our police unions who defend every cop almost no matter what, and we need to, when someone is identified through actions or words to not be suitable for the job, show them the door before we're watching them on CNN   
Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: cross-of-iron on October 12, 2017, 10:21:27 AM
Based black man on "racist" cops.

Title: Re: My two cents to stand or kneel by a man who served u.s.m.c.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 12, 2017, 11:03:11 AM
If you’re going to make claims of racism in the police force. You’re going to have to explain why this racism doesn’t extend to Asians.


http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year-end-2016-enforcement-report.pdf

The race/ethnicity of known Robbery suspects is primarily Black (66.2%). Hispanic suspects account for an additional (27.2%) of the suspect population. White suspects account for (4.2%) of all Robbery suspects while Asian /Pacific Islanders accounted for (2.0%) of known Robbery suspects.