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and he claims the 'kneelers' are disrespecting the military! ???
"Trump told soldier's grieving widow 'he knew what he signed up for"
Donald Trump told the widow of a soldier killed in an ambush in guy that her husband “knew what he signed up for”, the soldier’s mother said on Wednesday
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/18/trump-allegedly-tells-soldiers-widow-he-knew-what-he-signed-up-for
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and he claims the 'kneelers' are disrespecting the military! ???
"Trump told soldier's grieving widow 'he knew what he signed up for"
Donald Trump told the widow of a soldier killed in an ambush in guy that her husband “knew what he signed up for”, the soldier’s mother said on Wednesday
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/18/trump-allegedly-tells-soldiers-widow-he-knew-what-he-signed-up-for
I think the running excuse is that he's new to politics but he's a fast learner...
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I think the running excuse is that he's new to politics but he's a fast learner...
i wouldn't be surprised if the guy has some form of autism
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and he claims the 'kneelers' are disrespecting the military! ???
"Trump told soldier's grieving widow 'he knew what he signed up for"
Donald Trump told the widow of a soldier killed in an ambush in guy that her husband “knew what he signed up for”, the soldier’s mother said on Wednesday
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/18/trump-allegedly-tells-soldiers-widow-he-knew-what-he-signed-up-for
Are you a Communist?
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i wouldn't be surprised if the guy has some form of autism
Watch interviews of Trump from the 90s. He was still a con man but he was able to answer questions in complete sentences.
I really think he has lost much of his mental capacity.
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Donald is our President. He would never disrespect any serving soldier or war hero.
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To add insult to injury Trump has also denied saying it
Of course it sounds exactly like something he would say and the call was on a speaker phone in a car with multiple people there.
It astounds me that Repulicans and especially fundies support this piece of shit
It's amazing how fundies sell their soul to support this guy when they wouldn't tolerate this behavior from anyone else
Also amazing to me how so many fundies thought Obama as the antichrist but so far that thought hasn't occurred to them about Trump
Isn't the devil supposed to be a really good liar?
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This is bullshit. I am sure he didn't say it that way. The only 2 groups that I know he supports is the cops and military.
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This is bullshit. I am sure he didn't say it that way. The only 2 groups that I know he supports is the cops and military.
He didn’t. The liberal Senator made it up
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He didn’t. The liberal Senator made it up
'Yes the statement is true,' Johnson's mother, Cowanda Jones-Johnson, told the Associated Press on Wednesday.
'I was in the car and I heard the full conversation. Not only did he disrespect my son,' she said, but Trump also disrespected the dead soldier's father and his widow.
Jones-Johnson, who was listening on speakerphone, also told The Washington Post that 'President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter, and also me and my husband.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/guy-widow.html#ixzz4vwMeJt00
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so you are calling the mother of a war hero a liar too?!
didn't think you were the type to disrespect the military
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The media and the Khan family tried this over a year ago... the Jews need new tricks.
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"To get to the front line you would have volunteered countless times. It's not an accident that you are in harms way. We go into this with our eyes wide open.
I'm proud to say I knew exactly what I signed up for".
Tim Kennedy, US Army Special Forces veteran 10/18/2017
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Florida Democrat Wilson no friend of veterans, vote record shows
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/19/florida-democrat-wilson-no-friend-veterans-vote-record-shows.html
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Impeachment mental case Wilson already backtracked/changed wording on original story.
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He didn’t. The liberal Senator made it up
This ^
The media and the Khan family tried this over a year ago... the Jews need new tricks.
This ^
Impeachment mental case Wilson already backtracked/changed wording on original story.
And this ^
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Gun to my head, if I had to determine who lied between a dead soldiers wife, mother and Wilson verses Trump.. I have no reference base for the wife and mother, I do have a large reference base for Trump. It is more likely Trump is lying in this case. He has lied many many times, he says callous things on a regular basis.. he gets no benefit of the doubt here.
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But he wasn't voted into office for his articulation, his empathy or his integrity so.....
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But he wasn't voted into office for his articulation, his empathy or his integrity so.....
that's a fair point
Trump voters ostensibly voted to have him lie to them for the next 4 years
That's the only reason that I can see as to why they voted for him
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This ^
This ^
And this ^
false. false and false
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Gun to my head, if I had to determine who lied between a dead soldiers wife, mother and Wilson verses Trump.. I have no reference base for the wife and mother, I do have a large reference base for Trump. It is more likely Trump is lying in this case. He has lied many many times, he says callous things on a regular basis.. he gets no benefit of the doubt here.
Yes, because it's not like 95% of the accusations against him have been debunked and the liberals never make shit up just to discredit him.......
How's that Trump/Russian collusion thing going by the way?
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Yes, because it's not like 95% of the accusations against him have been debunked and the liberals never make shit up just to discredit him.......
How's that Trump/Russian collusion thing going by the way?
correct
it's not like that at all
glad you finally pulled your head out of your ass
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correct
it's not like that at all
glad you finally pulled your head out of your ass
Shut up fuck face. You've never known what is truth or not. You still think Clinton is innocent.
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General Kelly just destroyed this lady.
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Shut up fuck face. You've never known what is truth or not. You still think Clinton is innocent.
What an awesome response
Are you paying attention Bum?
This is why our phony coach deserves every single bit of derision that I give him
So both of you idiots can stop your whining about how mean and unfair I treat the phoniest "coach" on planet earth
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Yes, because it's not like 95% of the accusations against him have been debunked and the liberals never make shit up just to discredit him.......
How's that Trump/Russian collusion thing going by the way?
95%? hehe...
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This is so stupid. Shame on everyone involved for using this Soldier's death as a political football.
Regarding her story, she claims she was listening in while the president was on speaker phone. Then says she asked to speak to Trump. Doesn't make sense. And why the heck was she in the woman's car listening to the call??
In any event, he obviously didn't call that woman to insult her. Gutter politics at its worst.
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This is so stupid. Shame on everyone involved for using this Soldier's death as a political football.
Regarding her story, she claims she was listening in while the president was on speaker phone. Then says she asked to speak to Trump. Doesn't make sense. And why the heck was she in the woman's car listening to the call??
In any event, he obviously didn't call that woman to insult her. Gutter politics at its worst.
WTF man
How can you not know this information
She was there because she was with her constituent waiting for the body of her husband to arrive at the airport
In the car were other members of the family and at least one member of the military (the person who prevented the congress woman from speaking to Trump)
Did Fox News not provide these details to you?
Trump could have at least learned the mans name and tried to fake acting like a normal human being
The only person to blame for this is our so called President
His call to Ms. Johnson came as she and her two young children were in a limousine at Miami International Airport awaiting a plane carrying the remains of Sergeant Johnson. Mr. Trump spoke for three to five minutes, Ms. Wilson said.
“When she got off the phone, she said, ‘He didn’t even know his name. He kept calling him, ‘Your guy,’” Ms. Wilson said of Ms. Johnson. “He was calling the fallen soldier, ‘Your guy.’ And he never said his name because he did not know his name. So he kept saying, ‘Your guy. Your guy. Your guy.’ And that was devastating to her
Wilson on "New Day" described herself as "livid" when she heard the call on speakerphone, but when she tried to get on the phone to talk to Trump herself, a master sergeant who was present prevented her from doing so. Per military protocol, the calls from the commander in chief are solely presidential condolence conversations.
She added on CNN's "New Day" Wednesday morning that Trump didn't know the name of the service member and that his widow "broke down" after her call with the President. Cowanda Jones-Johnson, a family member who raised Johnson, told CNN Wednesday that Wilson's account of the call between Trump and Johnson's widow, Myeshia, was "very accurate." She said she was in the car when the call happened.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/18/us/politics/trump-widow-johnson-call.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/frederica-wilson-widow-fallen-soldier/index.html
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He didn’t. The liberal Senator made it up
The "liberal" Representative (not Senator) Wilson is a decades long friend of Sgt. Johnson's family. Sgt. Johnson's widow publicly confirmed Trump's conversation with her. Her mother was also in the car when Trump called. So in your view, are they all lying? Is Chief of Staff Kelly lying when he said today that this is what he advised Trump to say?
Start at 6:18
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But he wasn't voted into office for his articulation, his empathy or his integrity so.....
On this you are correct. How could he have been elected for those atributes, considering campaign his rhetoric. However, it is expected that our President have the qualities of empathy, integrity and perhaps some degree of articulation.
It seems as if you are saying that Trump lacks these qualities. Is it okay by you that Trump is dishonest, inarticulate and apathetic?
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The "liberal" Representative (not Senator) Wilson is a decades long friend of Sgt. Johnson's family. Sgt. Johnson's widow publicly confirmed Trump's conversation with her. Her mother was also in the car when Trump called. So in your view, are they all lying? Is Chief of Staff Kelly lying when he said today that this is what he advised Trump to say?
Start at 6:18
Kelly completely obliviated that liberal hack and the media to no end. In the context at which that fucking liberal lying sack of shit put it, she lied through her teeth. My guess is that you or any other America hating Marxist didn’t hear the entire speech.....which is why the useless MSM is covering it up.
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On this you are correct. How could he have been elected for those atributes, considering campaign his rhetoric. However, it is expected that our President have the qualities of empathy, integrity and perhaps some degree of articulation.
It seems as if you are saying that Trump lacks these qualities. Is it okay by you that Trump is dishonest, inarticulate and apathetic?
After 8 years of Obama, Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch it just amazes me that you guys try to come on here and speak about "integrity"
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Kelly completely obliviated that liberal hack and the media to no end. In the context at which that fucking liberal lying sack of shit put it, she lied through her teeth. My guess is that you or any other America hating Marxist didn’t hear the entire speech.....which is why the useless MSM is covering it up.
Your guess is wrong, bonehead.
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Your guess is wrong, bonehead.
If you actually heard then you must heard it completely different than most.
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If you actually heard then you must heard it completely different than most.
Don't you mean most of the people you know?
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On this you are correct. How could he have been elected for those atributes, considering campaign his rhetoric. However, it is expected that our President have the qualities of empathy, integrity and perhaps some degree of articulation.
It seems as if you are saying that Trump lacks these qualities. Is it okay by you that Trump is dishonest, inarticulate and apathetic?
No, I despise Trump, I think he is the Worst president I've seen in my life time, I cringe everytime he goes off message.. but I realize there are people out there that voted for this ridiculously inept asshole, enough to elect him... they got what they wanted.... I just don't understand why they wanted it
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Kelly completely obliviated that liberal hack and the media to no end. In the context at which that fucking liberal lying sack of shit put it, she lied through her teeth. My guess is that you or any other America hating Marxist didn’t hear the entire speech.....which is why the useless MSM is covering it up.
I like Kelly but on one point I think he played politics... he was "stunned" someone like Wilson was listening in, he thought some things were sacred like those phone calls. He painted a false narrative that she put her ear to the phone and eavesdropped...He knows better. The wife took the call on speakerphone, she happened to be in the car with the wife when the president chose to call. I thought he would be more honest than that
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No, I despise Trump, I think he is the Worst president I've seen in my life time, I cringe everytime he goes off message.. but I realize there are people out there that voted for this ridiculously inept asshole, enough to elect him... they got what they wanted.... I just don't understand why they wanted it
STFU and collect your pension that is soaring right now - check out CNBC
Moron.
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Bernard Kerik on Trump's Gold Star Remarks: 'I've Said That to Every Family'
By Todd Beamon | Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017
Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik defended President Donald Trump's remarks to a Gold Star widow, asking Newsmax TV Wednesday: "You know how many times I've said that to families of those that have fallen under me?"
"I lost 23 people on Sept. 11, 2001, when the World Trade Center imploded," Kerik told "Newsmax Now" host Bill Tucker in an interview. "I've said that to every family.
"These men and women in the NYPD who died, they knew the perils inherent with the job they were performing.
"They knew the dangers — and, yet, they did it anyway."
Trump has come under fire for his comments to Myeshia Johnson, 24, of Miami Gardens, Florida, on Tuesday, the widow of Army Sgt. La David Johnson, 25, who died in an Oct. 4 ambush by ISIS in guy.
Trump told Johnson that her slain husband, a Green Beret, "knew what he signed up for . . . but when it happens it hurts anyway."
Kerik told Tucker that Trump's comment was "a compliment to their courage, to their bravery, to their honor.
"If those are the words that the president used, I'm 100 percent positive that's what he meant.
"But to take his comments and basically politicize this … was insane," he said.
"I just think it's disgusting.
"The hatred for the president by the left is something that we're going to have to deal with," Kerik added.
"But to politicize and exploit the death of an American soldier and to exploit the grief by his widow and family is … so repugnant that it defies description."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/bernard-kerik-trump-comments-gold-star/2017/10/18/id/820650/
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WH: Kelly Felt Trump's Remarks to Widow Were 'Respectful'
By Todd Beamon | Wednesday, 18 Oct 2017
White House chief of staff John Kelly thought President Donald Trump's remarks in a call to the widow of a Green Beret slain by Islamic State terrorists in guy were "completely appropriate" and "respectful," press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday.
"Gen. Kelly was present for the call and thought it was completely appropriate," Sanders told reporters at the daily briefing.
"He thought the call was respectful — and he thought that the president did the best job he could under those circumstances to offer condolences on the part of the country."
Trump has no recording of Tuesday's call to Myeshia Johnson, 24, of Miami Gardens, Florida, but Kelly was among "several people in the room from the administration who were on the call," Sanders said.
Kelly, who became chief of staff in July, is a retired Marine Corps general whose son was killed in Afghanistan in 2010.
Trump referenced Kelly's situation Tuesday in arguing former President Barack Obama did not call every Gold Star family in explaining why he had not yet reached out to the family of the dead Green Beret, Army Sgt. La David Johnson, 25, of Miami Gardens, Florida, sooner.
President Trump's remarks to Johnson's pregnant widow Tuesday were slammed as insensitive by Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla.
Wilson charged that Trump told Mrs. Johnson of her slain husband: "He knew what he signed up for . . . but when it happens it hurts anyway."
The four-term representative was in a limousine with Johnson when President Trump called. They were on their way to meet the slain Green Beret's body, which had arrived at Miami International Airport.
La David Johnson was killed with three others in an Oct. 4 ambush by 50 ISIS terrorists in guy.
Two other Berets were wounded — and four Nigerian soldiers also died in the attack.
Johnson's body was left behind. It was found two days later — and the Pentagon was investigating the circumstances surrounding his death.
The Johnsons also have a 2-year-old son and 6-year-old daughter.
Trump took to Twitter Wednesday to rip Wilson's attack:
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Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!
1:25 AM - Oct 18, 2017
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She later responded:
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Rep Frederica Wilson ✔@RepWilson
I stand my account of the call with @realDonaldTrump and was not the only one who heard and was dismayed by his insensitive remarks.
3:31 AM - Oct 18, 2017 · Washington, DC
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I still stand by my account of the call b/t @realDonaldTrump and Myeshia Johnson. That is her name, Mr. Trump. Not "the woman" or "the wife"
6:34 AM - Oct 18, 2017
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At the briefing, Sanders told reporters the Defense Department provided the information on Johnson's death last Thursday and was confirmed by the White House Military Office on Monday.
Letters were drafted to Johnson's widow over the weekend — and they were mailed once all the information was confirmed.
The call with Myeshia Johnson was scheduled Monday for the following day, Sanders said.
"As accounted by multiple people in the room" President Trump was "completely respectful, very sympathetic and expressed the condolences of himself and the rest of the country," she told reporters.
He "thanked the family for their service, commended them for having an American hero in their family — and I don't know how you could take that any other way."
Sanders also attacked the press for its coverage of the matter, saying that it was "a disgrace of the media to try to portray an act of kindness like that and that gesture and to try to make it into something that it isn't."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/john-kelly-remarks-army-widow-respectful/2017/10/18/id/820614/
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What that woman did is disgraceful. It is really a shame we have these duds in office. Embarrassing.
Just ONE problem with Frederica Wilson’s shot at Trump over La David Johnson’s widow
October 18, 2017
by Sarah D.
As Twitchy told you, Democratic Rep. Frederica Wilson asserted that Donald Trump had disrespected the widow of fallen Green Beret La David Johnson by telling her that Johnson “knew what he signed up for.” Johnson’s mother backed up Wilson’s claim.
I still stand by my account of the call b/t @realDonaldTrump and Myesha Johnson. That is her name, Mr. Trump. Not "the woman" or "the wife."
— Rep Frederica Wilson (@RepWilson) October 18, 2017
Just one problem, Rep. Wilson: That’s … not her name.
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oye, it’s actually *myeshia* johnson https://twitter.com/RepWilson/status/920681788959227904 …
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Oops.
Wilson evidently got wind of her mistake, because she deleted that first tweet and replaced it with this one:
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Rep Frederica Wilson ✔@RepWilson
I still stand by my account of the call b/t @realDonaldTrump and Myeshia Johnson. That is her name, Mr. Trump. Not "the woman" or "the wife"
6:34 AM - Oct 18, 2017
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Better.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2017/10/18/just-one-problem-with-frederica-wilsons-shot-at-trump-over-ladavid-johnsons-widow/
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Brilliant response by General Kelly.
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Looks like Kelly just added his name to the list of people Trump has sent out to lie for him in an attempt to do damage control for yet another self inflicted wound
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Looks like Kelly just added his name to the list of people Trump has sent out to lie for him in an attempt to do damage control for yet another self inflicted wound
Got all excited only to be disappointed again, I see. Rough life you have. One of these is bound to be true. Just keep that hope afloat.
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Kellys recollection of the FBI ceremony for the new building was a bit off.. you really need to have your facts straight before you take a shot these days as everything is recorded. Wilson didn't say what he said she said. Now I would normally give him a pass because memory is a tricky thing and he probably thought he remembered it right, or close enough, she stood up and took credit for something.. but if he chooses to be that specific, he'd better be accurate.
Again, I think Trump intended to do the right thing. He repeated a line he had heard that when Kelly told him earlier in context, sounded pretty good. But Trump was incapable of taking the message and passing it on in context, which is important. "He knew what he was signing up for.." depending on the context, can be a very positive comment, or a very insensitive comment depending on the delivery. I just don't think it's in Trumps wheelhouse to be sensitive or empathetic in such a difficult phone call
Trump is Trumps worst enemy not the media. He had no reason to make statements that other presidents didn't bother to call, or maybe not call, but just write letters and that he.. the best president ever, does both. First president ever to do this so bigly. Dude simply can't be humble about anything and it costs him over and over.. though in his defense, his followers will support him regardless. He's not black, he's not female, he looks down on minorities and treats women like sex objects, he's every rednecks hero
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I think what she did is beyond despicable. The only reason we're talking about this is she allegedly listened in on a private call regarding the death of one our boys. To turn that into political theater is reprehensible.
And I don't give Trump a pass either. He should have kept his mouth shut, particularly after General Kelly made such an outstanding statement. I know that's never going to happen, but it's too bad he doesn't have the self control to get out of the way when someone is self-destructing.
But the Congresswoman is reason this whole thing started. She is suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Shame on her and everyone giving her a platform.
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I think what she did is beyond despicable. The only reason we're talking about this is she allegedly listened in on a private call regarding the death of one our boys. To turn that into political theater is reprehensible.
And I don't give Trump a pass either. He should have kept his mouth shut, particularly after General Kelly made such an outstanding statement. I know that's never going to happen, but it's too bad he doesn't have the self control to get out of the way when someone is self-destructing.
But the Congresswoman is reason this whole thing started. She is suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Shame on her and everyone giving her a platform.
I can agree with you about Wilson. She should have kept quiet. If the widow brought it up that's fine, but Wilson used the moment to attack Trump for her own political purposes.
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Brilliant response by General Kelly.
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I can agree with you about Wilson. She should have kept quiet. If the widow brought it up that's fine, but Wilson used the moment to attack Trump for her own political purposes.
She has been calling for his impeachment since he took office, right along with Maxine Waters.
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She has been calling for his impeachment since he took office, right along with Maxine Waters.
I wouldn't mind seeing him booted out... but yeah, she did the Democratic party no favors with this
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I knew these fools on the left would turn this to racist. Sad they are dragging general Kelley into this.
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I knew these fools on the left would turn this to racist. Sad they are dragging general Kelley into this.
he kinda dragged himself into it... but whatever
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he kinda dragged himself into it... but whatever
Wilson is A welfare thug - why you giving her cover ?
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Wilson is A welfare thug - why you giving her cover ?
I'm not... next question?
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The left will rally around this nutcase woman as some kind of hero and alienate large swaths of the American people in the process.