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Title: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: dearth on November 23, 2017, 06:04:59 PM
I remember Paul Dillet talking about how great a drug cytomel was
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 23, 2017, 06:21:49 PM
Wouldn't taking thyroid meds with a normal thyroid gland cause your thyroid shut down and make you dependent on taking the meds the rest of your life?  I can't see how that would be a good thing.
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: werewolf operative on November 23, 2017, 06:25:31 PM
Wouldn't taking thyroid meds with a normal thyroid gland cause your thyroid shut down and make you dependent on taking the meds the rest of your life?  I can't see how that would be a good thing.

No, I speak from experience.
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on November 23, 2017, 08:40:35 PM
Wouldn't taking thyroid meds with a normal thyroid gland cause your thyroid shut down and make you dependent on taking the meds the rest of your life?  I can't see how that would be a good thing.

never had a problem
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: gh15 on November 23, 2017, 08:47:02 PM
females use it mostly and male athletes that on so much fda gh and insulina that our metabolism slow believe it or not lol you can go around it though.. it is a product used more for the female and for the fitness model who would like to eat whatever they want and stil remain fitness models,,

when it comes to bodybuild there are ways around it eventhough many do use it,,

if you use it be sure to only use it from the pharmacy,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: tommywishbone on November 23, 2017, 10:00:41 PM
I still see it once in a while. That rebound on the back side can be tough.
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Blockhead on November 24, 2017, 04:24:46 AM
Never use thyroid without being on Gear.
25mcg daily for 6 weeks is a basic way to use it.

I've used it before at 50mcg on Mon, Wed and Fri
for final 5 weeks before a contest.

No issues. It's when you get in the 100-200mcg daily
range is when you're gambling.

- Block!
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: jon cole on November 24, 2017, 05:12:16 AM
widely available in France in the 90's/00, used by all the bodybuilder, it allowed them "to eat sausage during contest diet".
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Purge_WTF on November 24, 2017, 05:34:31 AM
I still see it once in a while. That rebound on the back side can be tough.

 What happens?
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 24, 2017, 06:06:27 AM
I liked it, 50mcg everyday helped combat some of the lethargy of dieting/gear.  Probably not a smart idea to use it unless you can get pharm grade stuff though, trusting a research chem company to dose something in micrograms is a gamble. 

Never use thyroid without being on Gear.
25mcg daily for 6 weeks is a basic way to use it.

I've used it before at 50mcg on Mon, Wed and Fri
for final 5 weeks before a contest.

No issues. It's when you get in the 100-200mcg daily
range is when you're gambling.

- Block!

25mcg is replacement level, what's the point?
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: V Man on November 24, 2017, 08:28:02 AM
females use it mostly and male athletes that on so much fda gh and insulina that our metabolism slow believe it or not lol you can go around it though.. it is a product used more for the female and for the fitness model who would like to eat whatever they want and stil remain fitness models,,

when it comes to bodybuild there are ways around it eventhough many do use it,,

if you use it be sure to only use it from the pharmacy,,

gh15 approved

So you are saying that when you take GH and Insulin at high doses it causes your metabolism to slow down? And the fix is to add more drugs to your system? Why not just lower the dose of GH and insulin? If you are taking so much GH and insulin that it slows your metabolism that should be a pretty big clue you are taking too much.
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Simple Simon on November 24, 2017, 08:34:17 AM
So you are saying that when you take GH and Insulin at high doses it causes your metabolism to slow down? And the fix is to add more drugs to your system? Why not just lower the dose of GH and insulin? If you are taking so much GH and insulin that it slows your metabolism that should be a pretty big clue you are taking too much.

no , hes saying he doesnt have a fucking clue what hes talking about

Cytomel wont do anything if you eat excessive calories, it may allow you to eat slightly more but it wont beat science.
Calories in calories out
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Taffin on November 24, 2017, 09:39:42 AM
widely available in France in the 90's/00, used by all the bodybuilder, it allowed them "to eat sausage during contest diet".

 :D  Quagmire approved.

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Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 24, 2017, 12:33:42 PM
Armour Thyroid is a lot more tolerant and safer than Cytomel.
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: tommywishbone on November 24, 2017, 12:46:28 PM
What happens?

In numerous situations we would observe bodybuilders & fitness girls post-cytomel make huge weight/fat gains. Clearly they had suppressed their own thyroid function to almost zero. Late 1990's fitness girls would sometimes gain a pound a day, every day for over a month- while eating only 1,200 - 1,500 calories. Luckily, normal thyroid function would always return, but during the "rebound" people got really fat... and the girls would get really depressed. LOL!
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on November 24, 2017, 03:48:35 PM
In numerous situations we would observe bodybuilders & fitness girls post-cytomel make huge weight/fat gains. Clearly they had suppressed their own thyroid function to almost zero. Late 1990's fitness girls would sometimes gain a pound a day, every day for over a month- while eating only 1,200 - 1,500 calories. Luckily, normal thyroid function would always return, but during the "rebound" people got really fat... and the girls would get really depressed. LOL!

I keep hearing these stories but have yet to witness it with myself or anyone else I know that has tried it, although I also understand I am not as invested as much as others in the lifestyle.
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 24, 2017, 06:17:31 PM
Thyroid is not just for getting lean, it can aid in building muscle.
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: tommywishbone on November 24, 2017, 06:34:02 PM
I keep hearing these stories but have yet to witness it with myself or anyone else I know that has tried it, although I also understand I am not as invested as much as others in the lifestyle.

It was the exception, not the rule. Most cats taper off, no big weight gain no real concerns. The rare person who most likely ran too long and too hard encountered the problem.
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: trapz101 on November 24, 2017, 06:56:48 PM
cytomel can even be used in the offseason..for better nutrient partitioning
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: gh15 on November 24, 2017, 07:51:11 PM
widely available in France in the 90's/00, used by all the bodybuilder, it allowed them "to eat sausage during contest diet".

I did it on legit kigtropin.. I ate whatever I wanted.. icecreams and pizzas and my body couldn't gain fat even if I tried.. I shoud lhve tried to drink canola oil none stop then I would know for sure lol but legit kigtropin let me eat whatever I wanted while simply melting! adipose it was insane.. not only melting adipose but also bllowing you up from withing fibreciously.. it was insanity straight out if those fellons triedto actualy bring it to the market with out scaming us.. people would pay for it 1000s dolars per kit even more,, I would pay for a kit 1500 dolars right now.. just give me legit kigtroopin ingredient I pay you 1500 for 10 vials.. yesyes even if it is that old stamp batch from half a decade ago I will pay,,


gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: gh15 on November 24, 2017, 07:58:01 PM
So you are saying that when you take GH and Insulin at high doses it causes your metabolism to slow down? And the fix is to add more drugs to your system? Why not just lower the dose of GH and insulin? If you are taking so much GH and insulin that it slows your metabolism that should be a pretty big clue you are taking too much.

no what I am saying is some individuals while usint trenbolona especialy long easter which we don't realy use but trenbolona ace in general at high dose for long duration.. alogn side fda gh and insulin.. will cause tyroid to slow down.. with some! I'm genetic elite it didn't do it to me but other are not so lucky.. one look at be there will explain to you what I'm talking about when I say not so lucky.. they are called locals


now,, we use cytomel so we can eat whatever we want.. especialy fitness model who rely on it heavilty because they don't need as much fda gh and insulin and some don't use insulin and do use low dose fda gh in the fitness modeling industry.. those are also some of the ones who will take cytomel,, including many of the girls..

lower doses of fda gh is not possible at the top,, doenst work this way,,  you cant use 5 iu and expect to be larger than 1991 circa.. just doesn't work this way my friend,,

gh15 approved
lion of Judah

Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: gh15 on November 24, 2017, 08:04:01 PM
no , hes saying he doesnt have a fucking clue what hes talking about

Cytomel wont do anything if you eat excessive calories, it may allow you to eat slightly more but it wont beat science.
Calories in calories out

you are a local idiot who either never been on legit cytomel from pharmacy or just a liar.. one or the other.. and I do know you are a liar so let fellas here get to conclusion of their own

legit cytomel wil make everything work more efficiently if your tyroid is slow or get slower.. not everyone has this problem.. me and dexjax could always eat what we wanted... and got by with little cardio even when on insulin in high doses

not everyone is as lucky.. and if you do use cytomel use it from pharmacy and only if you truly need it medicaly this usually is t4 what is prescribed.. or if you want t3 be sure you are on very good dose of hormones.. that include aas and fda gh and insulin.. I don't see any need for cytomel or t4 if you are not on all 3 and unlucky slow poke,,


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lion of Judah
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: gh15 on November 24, 2017, 08:11:03 PM
In numerous situations we would observe bodybuilders & fitness girls post-cytomel make huge weight/fat gains. Clearly they had suppressed their own thyroid function to almost zero. Late 1990's fitness girls would sometimes gain a pound a day, every day for over a month- while eating only 1,200 - 1,500 calories. Luckily, normal thyroid function would always return, but during the "rebound" people got really fat... and the girls would get really depressed. LOL!

cortisol.. this is why they got depressed.. it sky rocketed,, cytomel by itself its not a tyroid hormone that is pretty much needed by fatzos with slow metabilizm.. or by athletes with on heavy doses of hormones..

I been on trenbolona ace straight out for 7+ years none! stop and not a single tablet of cytomel got into my system.. ofcourse I was on legit kigtropin 1 of those years.. and then I was on fda gh and ephedrine at times.. and I was on very high quality stacks of aas with materona and trenbolona being the base.. also short esters everything..

never needed cytomel unless it was in prep on very very heavy doses of hormones,,

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lion of Judah
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: gh15 on November 24, 2017, 08:12:13 PM
Thyroid is not just for getting lean, it can aid in building muscle.

not bad,, and true!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: gh15 on November 24, 2017, 08:15:41 PM
cytomel can even be used in the offseason..for better nutrient partitioning

only if you have slow metaboliz and tyroid issues.. if your metabolism is fast naturally adding cytomel to yoru life will straight out ruin you and your intention on gaining muscle.. you will be burning yourself like the little candle that couldn't,,

cytomel has medical need.. it is different than t4 ofcourse but both are for people who truly need them..

if you are a slow metabolism fatzo who start bodybuild and on bunch of hormones.. heavy doses.. and add in trenbolona ace and fda gh and insulina.. you will probably end up adding a pill of t3 and or t 4 a day into your routine..

but some don't need it.. I repeat some! do not! need it,,

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lion of Judah
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Mobil on November 24, 2017, 09:26:33 PM
im always tired and have to force myself to workout. i got tested my tsh levels when i was younger and they were out of wack . doc told me i needed to see a endocrinologist...i never did because i knew if i got on those meds id be on it for life and i didnt want to dependent on any meds. thing is my body temp is always hot... i sweat alot and keep low bodyfat. past couple of years ive become sick of being tired all the time. So  last year I got another blood work done. i said fuck it, if i wont be tired all the time ill take it..got tested again by a quack Dr. he said my tsh levels were normal(he thought i was full of shit because the way i look)...etc.. but my buddy(has hypothyroidism) told me they need to test for t4 t3 levels, not just tsh. so im gonna go to a different doc and make sure they test for t3 t4 levels, not jus tsh. my mother had thyroid disease so its in my genes.   kinda off topic...i never took cytomel....so its kinda on topic with thyroid issues
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: willl on December 05, 2017, 02:04:56 PM
Thyroid is not just for getting lean, it can aid in building muscle.

howso?
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: willl on December 05, 2017, 02:07:11 PM
cytomel can even be used in the offseason..for better nutrient partitioning

?
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Simple Simon on December 05, 2017, 02:10:05 PM
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Take cytomel and eat more to get in more vits and minerals


Dont take cytomel eat less and take a mutivit...
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: willl on December 05, 2017, 02:18:52 PM
i think what he's saying is take T3 in off season to bulk clean?
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Simple Simon on December 05, 2017, 02:21:01 PM
i think what he's saying is take T3 in off season to bulk clean?

clean bulking is a myth, no ones ever done it...

why the fuck would you, the point is to take in additional cals, why the fuck would you chose foods that contained less cals by volume?
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: willl on December 05, 2017, 02:31:56 PM
clean bulking is in fact possible and some do it or have no choice to do it because of their own endocrine genetic makeup

i agree however, taking T3 while bulking is counterproductive to say the least
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Fallsview on December 05, 2017, 03:44:43 PM
No need for any of that nonsense. Cutting calories works. Making the right nutritional choices works. Taking in the proper energy at the right times works. Why use dangerous drugs to kill yourself and your goals?



STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Lustral on December 05, 2017, 03:58:24 PM
Wouldn't taking thyroid meds with a normal thyroid gland cause your thyroid shut down and make you dependent on taking the meds the rest of your life?  I can't see how that would be a good thing.

There was a study about fatties misprescribed T3 for 20+ years and their normal T3 levels returned withing weeks. It fucks with your sleep and reduces fullness but does help cutting if used correctly. Also stacks nicely with igf.
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on December 05, 2017, 04:56:27 PM
clean bulking is a myth, no ones ever done it...

why the fuck would you, the point is to take in additional cals, why the fuck would you chose foods that contained less cals by volume?

yea clean bulks are impossible.

plus pointless.  i am awesome at bulking but i hate it. (i can eat and train and sleep like a bear) but i hate being soft  :-\
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: HonestBob on December 05, 2017, 05:57:29 PM
yea clean bulks are impossible.

plus pointless.  i am awesome at bulking but i hate it. (i can eat and train and sleep like a bear) but i hate being soft  :-\

clean bulk = gaining muscle not fat.
By eating less than you need to gain fat and more than you need to maintain.
I'm a genius.
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 05, 2017, 10:56:45 PM
howso?

It increases protein turnover, it's both anabolic and catabolic at the same time. But the idea is that if you are on PEDs you stop catabolism and benefit from the increased protein synthesis. In naturals having t3 in the upper range increases protein synthesis but if it's too high the catabolism overtakes so it's real tricky to get right without anabolics.

T3 isn't on the WADA banned list and WADA noticed a lot of athletes use it. I think they use it briefly as a sort of psychostimulant and to increase metabolic processes at contest time.

One very interesting study from years ago: 200mg test + 50mcg T3 + immobility for 28 days. Result: +2kg lbm -2kg fat mass, without doing anything physically and an isocaloric diet.

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/84/1/207/2866215
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: willl on December 06, 2017, 12:13:17 AM
its a (co)factor in turnover but mostly catabolic (increased bmr/oxygen consumption/mitochondiral activity/heat/energy expenditure/fat burning etc)

anabolic i found only the upregulation of insulin receptivity (and glucose intake) in skeletal muscle (combined with an increased glucose transport outside of muscle cells into bloodstream)

i've not found anything in scientific litterature stating increased protein synthesis (positively or anabolic) specifically

so yes, if combined with aas the recipe generally ends up being positive


Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: dj181 on December 06, 2017, 12:34:24 AM
you are a local idiot who either never been on legit cytomel from pharmacy or just a liar.. one or the other.. and I do know you are a liar so let fellas here get to conclusion of their own

legit cytomel wil make everything work more efficiently if your tyroid is slow or get slower.. not everyone has this problem.. me and dexjax could always eat what we wanted... and got by with little cardio even when on insulin in high doses

not everyone is as lucky.. and if you do use cytomel use it from pharmacy and only if you truly need it medicaly this usually is t4 what is prescribed.. or if you want t3 be sure you are on very good dose of hormones.. that include aas and fda gh and insulin.. I don't see any need for cytomel or t4 if you are not on all 3 and unlucky slow poke,,


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lion of Judah

He's a fucking lier always spits out untruths bout me

FUCK HIM
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: dj181 on December 06, 2017, 12:35:47 AM
Thyroid is not just for getting lean, it can aid in building muscle.

What about clen?
Title: Re: Is cytomel still used in cutting cycles?
Post by: gh15 on December 07, 2017, 08:15:31 PM
they both help in a combo.. especialy for females.. liar priest balonie lies from the past were how he prepped on clenbuterol and little t3.. in other words he looked in the cabinet on what Kathy had over thre and said ok i can tell them this 2 lol,,

generaly speaking they are useful and i recommend them for females more than males,, since female have harder time to shed fat and estrogen since they are.. well.. females! lol used to be females now they are just angry entitled neo fascists,,

and yes cleanbuterl and cytomel help in building muscle when you are a male on heavy doses of hormones anf high calorie diet,,

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