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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: tom joad on November 29, 2017, 02:05:27 PM
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. . . besides, of course, the master Big Dicked Bob.
I used to do them during my first few years of training ... but since its safety was questioned ... I've just been doing shrugs for traps ever since. Anybody do both, upright rows and shrugs?
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never
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I always do upright rows.
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No,
since I'm not man enough and BDB has licensed doing them correctly...
112 x 405lbs
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No,
since I'm not man enough and BDB has licensed doing them correctly...
112 x 405lbs
I tried to join BDB's crew, "team upright row". I was declined. I'm serious.
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Only the cable version doesn't fuck with my rotator cuff
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If BDB isn't available, Hulkotron can speak on the matter.
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Costanza does.
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Yes.
Vary your hand position for each set.
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I switched to snatch grip high pulls paired with Hammer Strength shrugs
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Worthless exercise
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Yes, upright rows on the smith machine works great.
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I use a very wide grip and you can't go to high.
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Great exercise. Unfortunately it’s a shoulder-killer.
Haven’t done it in decades.
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Is this dude on the spectrum?
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Should be an Olympic lift.
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Worthless and very shoulder unfriendly
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Tank Abbott upright rowing 315
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Is there any other way to get shredded lats?
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I believe Hulkotron is the expert on this exercise.
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Never. Very bad for your shoulders. Unnatural movement. Not worth the risk
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i found that having the hand at almost 90 degrees to the forearm was awkward and im sure it had a ronnie coleman effect on the joints over time.
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Yes - wide & narrow grip they work well for me.
Also do press behind neck
No shoulder joint problems
Have always warmed up & do flexibility work.
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Yes - wide & narrow grip they work well for me.
Also do press behind neck
No shoulder joint problems
Have always warmed up & do flexibility work.
My shoulders hurt just reading that. You must be under 40.
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Did last night for the first time in ages but light as I had just been shoulder pressing the 140lb dbs...........
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Did last night for the first time in ages but light as I had just been shoulder pressing the 140lb dbs...........
post a video of that next time
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Yes - wide & narrow grip they work well for me.
Also do press behind neck
No shoulder joint problems
Have always warmed up & do flexibility work.
Wide grip is great for side delta first shown to me by Dr. John Mark Blakely
Btw, is that a WASP surname? He claimed he was of Dutch bloodlines
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Yes - wide & narrow grip they work well for me.
Also do press behind neck
No shoulder joint problems
Have always warmed up & do flexibility work.
I did the press behind the neck in my teens, 20's, 30's, 40's and a little into my 50's. Now my shoulders hurt like hell. Orthopedic surgeon said I have a slap tear, tendinitis and arthritis in both shoulders. One thing I completely agree with you about. It's flexibility of the shoulder joint. Benching contributes to inflexible shoulders. Then that's where they become painful and prone to tears. The greatest relief from shoulder pain has come from flexibility work and to a lessor extent rotator cuff work. I think for most people benching is the shoulder killer not the press behind the neck that actually contributes to the joints flexibility. Now the only delt press I can do is the military press with a bar.
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I did the press behind the neck in my teens, 20's, 30's, 40's and a little into my 50's. Now my shoulders hurt like hell. Orthopedic surgeon said I have a slap tear, tendinitis and arthritis in both shoulders. One thing I completely agree with you about. It's flexibility of the shoulder joint. Benching contributes to inflexible shoulders. Then that's where they become painful and prone to tears. The greatest relief from shoulder pain has come from flexibility work and to a lessor extent rotator cuff work. I think for most people benching is the shoulder killer not the press behind the neck that actually contributes to the joints flexibility. Now the only delt press I can do is the military press with a bar.
Three words: Rotator cuff work
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yes with dumbbells...unless you already have a shoulder issue no reason why you cannot do them....stop being pussies!!
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A man who doesn't do upright rows is not a man at all.
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post a video of that next time
I was going to last night but the kid I got to record it couldn't work my phone out!
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When I first started training. Haven’t done them in years.
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I was going to last night but the kid I got to record it couldn't work my phone out!
Your excuse would've been believable in 2008 or 2009. But it's not believable now. Everybody knows how to use smartphones now. Even 70 year olds.
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Your excuse would've been believable in 2008 or 2009. But it's not believable now. Everybody knows how to use smartphones now. Even 70 year olds.
I dont...
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I like the fact that this is an issue... upright rows... it reminds me of a more simple time.... when the world seemed to make a little more sense. what do we have now? tard rights... tranny sex dolls... and a whole bunch of other fuking bullshit.
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They hurt my wrists more than they hurt my shoulders. However, after seeing the gains Dennis Wolf made in the legs and calves after just 1 rep I am tempted to try them:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=534605.0;attach=563240;image)
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Years ago on a Flex Workout video Boyer Coe demonstrated a variation which I use for several months a year. He stood in a smith machine and took as wide a grip as his arm length allowed, he pulled up to the base of his pecs ( I tend to lean back as I do it.) It is a very effective side delt exercise. I always start very light and work up in weight.
J
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Years ago on a Flex Workout video Boyer Coe demonstrated a variation which I use for several months a year. He stood in a smith machine and took as wide a grip as his arm length allowed, he pulled up to the base of his pecs ( I tend to lean back as I do it.) It is a very effective side delt exercise. I always start very light and work up in weight.
J
Basically the same lift Doc Blakely showed me but with a barbell
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Should be an Olympic lift.
It’s an Olympic lift progression
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I did the press behind the neck in my teens, 20's, 30's, 40's and a little into my 50's. Now my shoulders hurt like hell. Orthopedic surgeon said I have a slap tear, tendinitis and arthritis in both shoulders. One thing I completely agree with you about. It's flexibility of the shoulder joint. Benching contributes to inflexible shoulders. Then that's where they become painful and prone to tears. The greatest relief from shoulder pain has come from flexibility work and to a lessor extent rotator cuff work. I think for most people benching is the shoulder killer not the press behind the neck that actually contributes to the joints flexibility. Now the only delt press I can do is the military press with a bar.
Shame you got the shoulder problems.
Still you are able to do military press.
Bench press & tight muscles - lack of suppleness / flexibility
And muscular imbalance all contribute to shoulder problems
As well as lack of warming up.
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They are great for variety when training delts and to a lesser degree, traps.
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Basically the same lift Doc Blakely showed me but with a barbell
How do you find it? It and presses are all I need for a goodly part of the year.
J
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Impingement Zone.
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I don't do this exercise, painful for shoulders.
I stopped also barbell bench press and dips.
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Shit no. Pure impingement. My shoulders are iffy enough as it is.
Nice vid, Parker. I never thought through why.
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I have to admit that in 30 years of training I have never done upright rows. The movement just looks like it would be hell on the shoulder joint.
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What about their safety were you or someone else questioning?
I don't train anymore but when I was into the BBing lifestyle, yes, I did them as part of shoulders. Great (and, in my opinion, safe) movement. Safer than side laterals, in my opinion. Though, if you get into the groove of side laterals, they seem pretty safe. Can just feel a bit wonky at times, unless you find that right groove.
I never experienced any pain when I was doing upright rows 20-25 years ago, but see the many replies that warn about the risk/danger that upright rows pose to the shoulders.
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The narrow grip pull-to-your chin variation is a shoulder killer. A shoulder width grip pulling to your nipples can be safe n effective
Really though there's better, safer alternatives for p much everyone
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I don't do this exercise, painful for shoulders.
I stopped also barbell bench press and dips.
I have to agree with you, all of these exercises often causing injuries. I've done and mostly still do them anyway. To date this has not resulted in my being injured. My sister blew out her shoulder doing body weight dips. I'm guessing she either wasn't strong enough to lift her body using her arms and/or her form was terrible. There are counter-weighted dip machines for beginners.
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I tried to join BDB's crew, "team upright row". I was declined. I'm serious.
Bob only considered applications from those who were the first on their block with shredded lats and shredded glutes.