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Title: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 10:49:52 AM
What is the purpose of "rocking" while you perform the movement?  Does this aid in muscle gain or prevent injury? I have seen these machines more and more in gyms.

Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: ratherbebig on December 06, 2017, 10:52:07 AM
they explain it in the video if you click on it and understand english
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 10:54:54 AM
they explain it in the video if you click on it and understand english


I don't trust people who are just trying to sell a product, gimmick.

I need information from unbiased getbiggers, particularly whether or not it really is beneficial.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Megalodon on December 06, 2017, 10:56:08 AM
They claim greater stress during different parts of the range of motion. Like if you lean back at the bottom portion of standing barbell curls and lean a little forward at the top of the movement, so the stress is not lessened near the top and bottom parts of the ROM.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: el numero uno on December 06, 2017, 10:57:10 AM
I thought this thread was going to be about Vince Goodrum getting some new credentials.

Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
They claim greater stress during different parts of the range of motion. Like if you lean back at the bottom portion of standing barbell curls and lean a little forward at the top of the movement, so the stress is not lessened near the top and bottom parts of the ROM.

Thank you, Megalodon. Do you buy this? Can I get significantly bigger by working out on a Hoist Roc-It machine?
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: ratherbebig on December 06, 2017, 11:03:09 AM
I don't trust people who are just trying to sell a product, gimmick.

I need information from unbiased getbiggers, particularly whether or not it really is beneficial.

if you have any knowledge about training you can figure out yourself if there's something to it or not

Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 11:07:32 AM
if you have any knowledge about training you can figure out yourself if there's something to it or not



I have zero knowledge of training, gimmick. Hence, why I am asking
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Megalodon on December 06, 2017, 11:09:28 AM
Thank you, Megalodon. Do you buy this? Can I get significantly bigger by working out on a Hoist Roc-It machine?

It's how some people already adjust their bodies naturally while training with free weights to effect the stress during the range of motion. It's like the machines vs free weight argument and this machine may be a little different.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 11:15:23 AM
It's how some people already adjust their bodies naturally while training with free weights to effect the stress during the range of motion. It's like the machines vs free weight argument and this machine may be a little different.

I wonder if it is beneficial to get a hoist roc-it or just stick to regular machine? I mean, a normal lat pulldown vs. a hoist roc-it pullown.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Megalodon on December 06, 2017, 11:21:54 AM
I wonder if it is beneficial to get a hoist roc-it or just stick to regular machine? I mean, a normal lat pulldown vs. a hoist roc-it pullown.

They're in California. People that invent and market this type of thing usually like talking about it.

Toll Free:800-548-LIFT / 800-548-5438
Phone:858-578-7676
Email:webprodsupport@hoistfitness.com

Hours:7:00AM - 4:30PM, Mon - Fri PST
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 11:22:57 AM
They're in California. People that invent and market this type of thing usually like talking about it.

Toll Free:800-548-LIFT / 800-548-5438
Phone:858-578-7676
Email:webprodsupport@hoistfitness.com

Hours:7:00AM - 4:30PM, Mon - Fri PST


They aren't getbiggers. They lie.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Twaddle on December 06, 2017, 11:23:05 AM
I'd rather have the Jacked Square System.   :D

Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: HTexan on December 06, 2017, 11:24:26 AM
I don't trust people who are just trying to sell a product, gimmick.

I need information from unbiased getbiggers, particularly whether or not it really is beneficial.
Not beneficial at all, just do free weights.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 11:25:12 AM
They're in California. People that invent and market this type of thing usually like talking about it.

Toll Free:800-548-LIFT / 800-548-5438
Phone:858-578-7676
Email:webprodsupport@hoistfitness.com

Hours:7:00AM - 4:30PM, Mon - Fri PST


Meg, imagine working out on this Hoist Motion Cage!!  :o :o :o

(http://www.mjd.fr/1486/machine-musculation-professionnelle-haut-de-gamme-cage-de-crossfit-motion-cage-hoist-fitness-mc-7005.jpg)
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 11:26:11 AM
Not beneficial at all, just do free weights.

But you could get JACKED working out on this

(https://www.vosjcc.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/getreadypage-hoistmotioncage.jpg)
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Megalodon on December 06, 2017, 11:28:18 AM
Meg, imagine working out on this Hoist Motion Cage!!  :o :o :o



What's their gimmick? Looks like a shiny Universal machine. :D  Edit: with free weights thrown in...
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 11:29:36 AM
What's their gimmick? Looks like a shiny Universal machine. :D

I assume it appeals to crossfitters.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: HTexan on December 06, 2017, 11:30:10 AM
But you could get JACKED working out on this

(https://www.vosjcc.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/getreadypage-hoistmotioncage.jpg)
Of course , you could get jacked only doing machines. Getting powerlifting like strength, probably not.
The goal of the machine seems to be mimicking a natural movement and targeting stabilizer muscles. Both are  easily accomplished with free weights.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 11:34:53 AM
Of course , you could get jacked only doing machines. Getting powerlifting like strength, probably not.
The goal of the machine seems to be mimicking a natural movement and targeting stabilizer muscles. Both are  easily accomplished with free weights.

Free weights are scary. Look what happened to Ronnie Coleman, 8x Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Twaddle on December 06, 2017, 11:40:17 AM
But you could get JACKED working out on this

(https://www.vosjcc.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/getreadypage-hoistmotioncage.jpg)

Pffffft!!!!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395976.0;attach=430981;image)
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 11:41:59 AM
Pffffft!!!!

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395976.0;attach=430981;image)

haha lol  ;D ;D

Imagine Mr. Basile trying to invent a workout machine that actually worked.  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: HTexan on December 06, 2017, 11:51:20 AM
Free weights are scary. Look what happened to Ronnie Coleman, 8x Mr. Olympia.
Yeah Ronnie always maxed out.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2017, 12:45:17 PM
I work in a warehouse and inventory commercial equipment


Hoist motion cage is a bitch to install - mostly YMCAs get them , gyms with lots of younger adults


The hoist - roc it machines are the same , big bulky - not real expensive compared to new matrix or nautilus stuff

LifeFitness makes hammer strength and everyone likes that stuff


It’s older but personally I seek out gyms that have body master machines
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Megalodon on December 06, 2017, 12:56:25 PM
I work in a warehouse and inventory commercial equipment


Hoist motion cage is a bitch to install - mostly YMCAs get them , gyms with lots of younger adults


The hoist - roc it machines are the same , big bulky - not real expensive compared to new matrix or nautilus stuff

LifeFitness makes hammer strength and everyone likes that stuff


It’s older but personally I seek out gyms that have body master machines

Spike, are the machines below Hoist "roc it"?
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Spike on December 06, 2017, 01:05:25 PM
I believe so , that crunch graphics throw me off


Roc-it basically aims to incorporate some of your own bodyweight , so you feel ur ass lift as you perform the movement


Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Simple Simon on December 06, 2017, 01:05:41 PM
they had shit like that in a gym in Egypt, I spent 30 seconds in there and fucked off back to the pool.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Megalodon on December 06, 2017, 01:15:06 PM
I believe so , that crunch graphics throw me off

Roc-it basically aims to incorporate some of your own bodyweight , so you feel ur ass lift as you perform the movement


Thanks. So, in addition to "rocking" the body to get more stress at the top and bottom of the movement(like the opposite of "rocking" the body on a cheat curl), since you are incorporating body weight, the machines don't require as much weights, it seems.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Henda on December 06, 2017, 01:15:43 PM
Looks like absolute fucking garbage with even more moving parts than fat old Basils scrap heap biceps supination machine
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Tennisballz on December 06, 2017, 01:32:56 PM
Im waiting for a pelvic thruster machine that hoists the whole body!
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 02:47:52 PM
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(http://www.mjd.fr/documents/gif/RPL-5501.gif)
(https://resources.sport-tiedje.com/bilder/hoist/rpl/latpulldown/hoist_rpl5201_p.gif)
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Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: illuminati on December 06, 2017, 03:03:06 PM
(http://www.mjd.fr/documents/gif/RPL-5102-Man-600.gif)
(http://www.mjd.fr/documents/gif/RPL-5501.gif)
(https://resources.sport-tiedje.com/bilder/hoist/rpl/latpulldown/hoist_rpl5201_p.gif)
(https://www.gregorysfc.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/chestpress.gif)


Exercise & Rock yourself to sleep at the same time.

Jeez some twats spend enough time glued to the machines they don't need encouraging.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: Parker on December 06, 2017, 08:51:55 PM
They have dip machines like this. Just doesn't feel right.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: jwb on December 06, 2017, 09:36:39 PM
The lat pulldown and leg press feel ok but the rest are rubbish.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: QuietYou on December 06, 2017, 09:51:18 PM
What is the purpose of "rocking" while you perform the movement?  Does this aid in muscle gain or prevent injury? I have seen these machines more and more in gyms.



It aids in subliminally communicating to others in the gym that you are a homosexual. Does this guy in the video look like it benefits him at all ?
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: AbrahamG on December 06, 2017, 10:00:47 PM
Vinny B should hurry up and invent the ROC-IT Bicep Supinator.  Talk about a game changer.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: SF1900 on December 06, 2017, 10:01:05 PM
It aids in subliminally communicating to others in the gym that you are a homosexual. Does this guy in the video look like it benefits him at all ?

He looks better than DJ181, so I'd say yes.
Title: Re: HOIST ROC-IT
Post by: calfzilla on December 06, 2017, 10:58:37 PM
All invented by Basil