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Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?
Can hardly walk right now...
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Depends whether it’s the tendon or the muscle. Sounds like you first need it to give it a few days to calm down.
If you’re feeling it up near your ass or right behind your knee, it’s probably the tendon. In the middle of the back of your leg, the muscle.
If it’s the tendon you want to lightly stretch the muscle so it doesn’t tighten up and put too much tension on the tendon. If it’s the muscle you just have to rest it.
Most of the elasticity is in the muscle, not the tendon. So when you do stretch, you want to feel it in the muscle belly. If you’re feeling it near the joints, you’re doing it incorrectly and you want to make adjustments.
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Ice the hell out of it. I tore my groin on the leg press. Black and blue from nuts to my knee. Took around 6 months before I could train legs again.
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Depends whether it’s the tendon or the muscle. Sounds like you first need it to give it a few days to calm down.
If you’re feeling it up near your ass or right behind your knee, it’s probably the tendon. In the middle of the back of your leg, the muscle.
If it’s the tendon you want to lightly stretch the muscle so it doesn’t tighten up and put too much tension on the tendon. If it’s the muscle you just have to rest it.
Most of the elasticity is in the muscle, not the tendon. So when you do stretch, you want to feel it in the muscle belly. If you’re feeling it near the joints, you’re doing it incorrectly and you want to make adjustments.
it's in the muscle not tendon I Believe. Because it's more in the middle or closer to the glute like 3/5 up the hams. By the feel of it touching it and trying to flex it it's the biceps femoris long head
I was a dumbass doing a sprint because I trained deadlifts monday and my hams where still tight and sore from it. And ofcourse doing it cold it's not like you warm up before running to catch a train lol
lesson learned...
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it's in the muscle not tendon I Believe. Because it's more in the middle or closer to the glute like 3/5 up the hams. By the feel of it touching it and trying to flex it it's the biceps femoris long head
I was a dumbass doing a sprint because I trained deadlifts monday and my hams where still tight and sore from it. And ofcourse doing it cold it's not like you warm up before running to catch a train lol
lesson learned...
Yeah, that’s usually when it happens. When you do something abrupt and the muscle isn’t warmed up or is tight. It’s not the end of the world but it just takes a long time to heal.
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it's in the muscle not tendon I Believe. Because it's more in the middle or closer to the glute like 3/5 up the hams. By the feel of it touching it and trying to flex it it's the biceps femoris long head
I was a dumbass doing a sprint because I trained deadlifts monday and my hams where still tight and sore from it. And ofcourse doing it cold it's not like you warm up before running to catch a train lol
lesson learned...
Getting up out of a sitting position is going to be difficult. Hope you heal up quickly. Getting old sucks.
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Getting up out of a sitting position is going to be difficult. Hope you heal up quickly. Getting old sucks.
I'm not that old...
I've torn muscles doing stupid shit in my early 20's
I was just careless and alot of things said not to do it. sore hams, no warm up, cold weather, heavy bacpack.. In short I was just a dumbass.
But yeah it's going to suck. And I just started to get up in my higher weights in deadlifts again. Back to Square one....
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I'm not that old...
I've torn muscles doing stupid shit in my early 20's
I was just careless and alot of things said not to do it. sore hams, no warm up, cold weather, heavy bacpack.. In short I was just a dumbass.
But yeah it's going to suck. And I just started to get up in my higher weights in deadlifts again. Back to Square one....
Things start to change in your late 30's. No deadlifts for a few months at least.
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Things start to change in your late 30's. No deadlifts for a few months at least.
no doubt but I Think age was not the biggest factor in this case.
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R.I.C.E
BPC-157
TB-500
Or GH.
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R.I.C.E
BPC-157
TB-500
Or GH.
wut?
btw. just had my gf help me take a shit lol
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wut?
btw. just had my gf help me take a shit lol
Rest Ice Compression Elevation
BPC & TB are peptides that are involved in inflamation/proliferation phases of injury. Getting them in quick would help recovery. I have them on hand for this reason.
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Ice the hell out of it. I tore my groin on the leg press. Black and blue from nuts to my knee. Took around 6 months before I could train legs again.
There is some debate these days as to whether icing is a good thing. The argument against it is that inflammation is the body’s response to the injury and you don’t want to interfere with it.
Personally, I’ve never found icing to be of much help.
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Rest Ice Compression Elevation
BPC & TB are peptides that are involved in inflamation/proliferation phases of injury. Getting them in quick would help recovery. I have them on hand for this reason.
I'll check it out
best for injury healing would probably be stemcell injections I'm guessing but too expensive... hell if I was rich I'd inject that shit in all my old nagging injuries
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If you have a classic pulled hamstring it's going to take time to heal. Sounds like a muscle strain. If you actually torn a tendon an operation is your only option. Stretching is one of the worst things you can do if you have a partially or complete tear of the tendon. If it's a strain then light pain free stretching after it starts healing. Semi stiff leg deadlifts for low reps at a very slow cadence with a light weight will both make the hamstring or bicep femoris work through a long range of motion and strengthen it. Often when the injury is fresh trying to do leg curls lying down or standing is too painful.
I tore my hamstring sprinting in college. It was the end of my real competitive sprinting. It healed in time but I was never the same.
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R.I.C.E
BPC-157
TB-500
Or GH.
TB500 ain't going to be doing shit.
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TB500 ain't going to be doing shit.
What makes you say that?
BPC works very well...
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I'm not that old...
I've torn muscles doing stupid shit in my early 20's
I was just careless and alot of things said not to do it. sore hams, no warm up, cold weather, heavy bacpack.. In short I was just a dumbass.
But yeah it's going to suck. And I just started to get up in my higher weights in deadlifts again. Back to Square one....
Adonis says warms ups are pointless and unnecessary. You can also live on pastries, just keep the calories in the correct amounts.
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Adonis says warms ups are pointless and unnecessary. You can also live on pastries, just keep the calories in the correct amounts.
warm ups are essential for some of my workouts especially legs
blood filling the muscles you're going to work definately helps prevent injury
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Adonis says warms ups are pointless and unnecessary. You can also live on pastries, just keep the calories in the correct amounts.
I don’t know how old Adonis was when he was saying this but as you get older you really have to ease into things no matter what type of activity.
I do a lot of running these days. I start by walking. Then I’ll walk / jog for a little while then I’ll jog and then I’ll start running.
Same with lifting. You just can’t give warming up the short shrift if you want longevity.
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Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?
Can hardly walk right now...
Stand in front of the train.
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Adonis says warms ups are pointless and unnecessary.
It depends on how you warm up. For instance, if I'm doing deadlifts, I don't do any warm up exercises/stretches and go straight into lifting. However, the "warm up" is the first few sets with the lighter weights. Going from zero to full throttle quickly isn't going to end well.
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2 years ago, I tore my hammy a bit (real tear - blood under the skin) playing flag football.
Through a combination of ice / heat/ stretching / active release therapy and COMPRESSION was able to play the following week. I think 24 hour compression is key.
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Adonis says warms ups are pointless and unnecessary. You can also live on pastries, just keep the calories in the correct amounts.
This is correct, according to TA.
As long as you keep your calories in a certain range, you can eat whatever you want.
2000 calories of cake is the same as 2000 calories of vegetables.
Both diets will lead to the same physical outcomes.
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Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?
Can hardly walk right now...
get a taxi...
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Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?
Can hardly walk right now...
Is it discolored? And since you were running you probably pulled or tore it at the glute/ham tie in?
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2 years ago, I tore my hammy a bit (real tear - blood under the skin) playing flag football.
Through a combination of ice / heat/ stretching / active release therapy and COMPRESSION was able to play the following week. I think 24 hour compression is key.
I read that immediately putting pressure on it can cut recovery by weeks or months. That's what I did when I tore mine, put a hard knee wrap on my thigh for a few hours. I made a quick recovery. Started loading it after a couple of days. This is supposedly critical for it to "heal right".
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I read that immediately putting pressure on it can cut recovery by weeks or months. That's what I did when I tore mine, put a hard knee wrap on my thigh for a few hours. I made a quick recovery. Started loading it after a couple of days. This is supposedly critical for it to "heal right".
Yes, there are articles out there stating that compression is better than ice. I can't say for sure what method worked (ART may have helped too) but it did.
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I read that immediately putting pressure on it can cut recovery by weeks or months. That's what I did when I tore mine, put a hard knee wrap on my thigh for a few hours. I made a quick recovery. Started loading it after a couple of days. This is supposedly critical for it to "heal right".
The rationale behind compression is that by constricting the veins you increase the blood flow velocity. However, while velocity increases the amount of blood doesn’t change because the veins are smaller. So I’m not really sure if I buy it. And it’s hard to prove if it really works because you don’t know how quickly you would’ve healed had you not done it.
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I agree stretch before you run to the train
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Is it discolored? And since you were running you probably pulled or tore it at the glute/ham tie in?
maybe but the soreness and pain is more in the middle not at the tie in. The rupture is likely in the muscle belly.
zero discoloration actually. Discoloration does not Always happen with tears.
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functional muscles of peace...
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maybe but the soreness and pain is more in the middle not at the tie in. The rupture is likely in the muscle belly.
zero discoloration actually. Discoloration does not Always happen with tears.
So it is a rupture?
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I suggest amputation.
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Keep in mind that nerve impingement can cause symptoms similar to muscle or tendon pain and tenderness.
If there is zero bruising, redness or swelling it is a possibility to consider.
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So it is a rupture?
I've had several other tears and it always feels the same. Sudden pop and pull and it gets kind of warm sensation in the muscle. After you can not flex the muscle. So yeah pretty confident in that.
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I've had several other tears and it always feels the same. Sudden pop and pull and it gets kind of warm sensation in the muscle. After you can not flex the muscle. So yeah pretty confident in that.
Short of re-attachment, the usual. Ice/Heat contrast. massage therapy, stim, rest, keep weight off of it, gentle static stretch (when you feel you're ready). After recovery put together a good posterior chain strength program and for awhile avoid isolation-type movements. just my opinion from dealing with this with athletes. If you can get a hold of a Normatec that would be a great addition.
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Adonis says warms ups are pointless and unnecessary. You can also live on pastries, just keep the calories in the correct amounts.
Adonis has no clue.
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Short of re-attachment, the usual. Ice/Heat contrast. massage therapy, stim, rest, keep weight off of it, gentle static stretch (when you feel you're ready). After recovery put together a good posterior chain strength program and for awhile avoid isolation-type movements. just my opinion from dealing with this with athletes. If you can get a hold of a Normatec that would be a great addition.
I’ve heard S&C coaches and physical therapists recommend this but is a lack of strength really the issue here or is it just that he extended it too far too fast at a time when muscle was overly tight?
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I’ve heard S&C coaches and physical therapists recommend this but is a lack of strength really the issue here or is it just that he extended it too far too fast at a time when muscle was overly tight?
Really hard to tell unless you can get a history of his past training and test for asymmetries, function, etc. if all the training is bodybuilding-type meaning all isolation movements, lack of flexibility, tight low back, weak glutes, tight IT then there always that risk especially when starting from dead start into a full triple extension and deceleration with no warm up. We don’t function in isolation, we function multi-joint. There is nothing wrong with combining more “functional” movements in with bodybuilding
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.We don’t function in isolation, we function multi-joint. There is nothing wrong with combining more “functional” movements in with bodybuilding
You ever listen to Rippetoes podcast? He talks a lot about this.
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I dont Think lack of glutes or lack of "functional muscle" was the cause
just lack of flexibility in my hams (suck at stretching) plus the tightness from being sore from alot of deadlifting. That and being cold. It could happen to anyone even professional sprinters under those circumstances..
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Really hard to tell unless you can get a history of his past training and test for asymmetries, function, etc. if all the training is bodybuilding-type meaning all isolation movements, lack of flexibility, tight low back, weak glutes, tight IT then there always that risk especially when starting from dead start into a full triple extension and deceleration with no warm up. We don’t function in isolation, we function multi-joint. There is nothing wrong with combining more “functional” movements in with bodybuilding
I pray for Europe.
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Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?
Can hardly walk right now...
Announce you're still going for the Mr. O and sit back and wait for the endorsements to starting pouring in. Then every few weeks release a video of you incline pressing some ginormous weight but stopping several inches short of your chest. Don't forget to say dumb shit like "Wasshup peepses? MAXXaroni in da housss!" Tour the world on the dime of schmoes while hooking, errrr...hawking your new line of supps and give posing exhibitions at various venues across Schmoetopia all the while changing the size and shape of your cock-sock to keep 'em guessing what's coming at the schmoelympia.
Get injured again just weeks out of the O and announce you'll still be there thanks to your new Pre-Jerkout forumla and that your wheels will be bigger than your main opponents testes. Enter the O and pose to Kai's favorite music just to show him who is BOSS then shove your middle finger up his left nostril and then out the other. Pull it out and make him suck his own snot. Get next to reigning chump Phildo and let loose a leg burning fart on him every time he tries to step over the line. Inflate your ball sack during the pose down to draw the judges into your corner. Leg hump Cedric then deflate one of his kids toys on stage while you point at him with your left index finger screaming "IWANCHU!!!" over and over.
Accept your fifth place trophy then shove it up far enough up your butt to make a certain retired bodybuilder and gay porn star envious. Pull it out and give it to Phildo after you wipe the poo under his ginormous nose. Dedicate your victory to your dying poodle and then show up at next year's O with a new dog on a new leash.
Either that or just take it easy for a few weeks and do what your doctor tells you to do.
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Really hard to tell unless you can get a history of his past training and test for asymmetries, function, etc. if all the training is bodybuilding-type meaning all isolation movements, lack of flexibility, tight low back, weak glutes, tight IT then there always that risk especially when starting from dead start into a full triple extension and deceleration with no warm up. We don’t function in isolation, we function multi-joint. There is nothing wrong with combining more “functional” movements in with bodybuilding
what's your favorite posterior chain movements coach for a 40yo
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Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?
Can hardly walk right now...
you sound absolutely vile
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what's your favorite posterior chain movements coach for a 40yo
As long as you can hip-hinge age shouldn’t be a factor. I like most but my favorites are a Uni-lateral RDL or GHR or Bi-lateral GHR, Banded RDL or reverse hyper. Rack Pulls are awesome as well.
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The rationale behind compression is that by constricting the veins you increase the blood flow velocity. However, while velocity increases the amount of blood doesn’t change because the veins are smaller. So I’m not really sure if I buy it. And it’s hard to prove if it really works because you don’t know how quickly you would’ve healed had you not done it.
I'm not exactly sure I understand that concept you are describing. My understanding was that immediate tight wrapping reduces excessive bleeding and inflammation. So this was an immediate intervention in the first few hours, not a recovery enhancing compression so to speak.
The wrap hurt like hell even though I immediately popped a lot of codeine and diklofenac which a training partner had in his gym bag.
But you're right, hard to say if it actually helped. But I popped the hamstring deadlifting 660lbs - audible tear to my training partners. Leg turned black and blue. I was back to 660+ after a year and now about 3 years later, and a lot stronger, no re-strains, knock on wood. I read that hamstring tears frequently reoccur and many people are never the same.
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Running to catch a train... Any advice what to do?
Can hardly walk right now...
Pfft ,pussy ::)
I've torn my right hammy twice,left hammy once,pulled groin twice,right calf once,left glute once{no homo}
First time I fucked up my groin I went to the doc and he told me to go home because there was nothing he could do.
He just said deal with it until it heals.
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Pfft ,pussy ::)
I've torn my right hammy twice,left hammy once,pulled groin twice,right calf once,left glute once{no homo}
First time I fucked up my groin I went to the doc and he told me to go home because there was nothing he could do.
He just said deal with it until it heals.
I knew that already. They don't want to do anything unless completly detached.