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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Royalty on December 16, 2017, 07:21:12 AM
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Less than great
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Not great either
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He has potential, but has long torso
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199075.0;attach=231797;image)
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Less than great
Because they don't know how to pose
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Because they don't know how to pose
This.
Phils back is one of the best and Rhoden has a nice back double bi.
If Phil looks great from the back, and is kilos heavier than alot of people that competed in the 90's. There is no doubt that his lat spread is going to be better if done correctly.
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Naturally narrow shoulders coupled with a big gut results in more of a fat spread than lat spread really. This in turn pretty much describes Phildo & Company. Squatty little manlets posing to ghetto crap and all the while thinking they're somehow putting the "art" back into what the book Pumping Iron described as the "Art & Sport of Bodybuilding". Fuck 'em all the hell.
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This.
Phils back is one of the best and Rhoden has a nice back double bi.
If Phil looks great from the back, and is kilos heavier than alot of people that competed in the 90's. There is no doubt that his lat spread is going to be better if done correctly.
What the heck are you talking about? ??? He's not kilos heavier than guys in the 90s , he competes at 245-250 , Phil's front latspread sucks because of his structure
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What the heck are you talking about? ??? He's not kilos heavier than guys in the 90s , he competes at 245-250 , Phil's front latspread sucks because of his structure
the added weight of todays competitors is enlarged internal organs and visceral fat.
their dimensions or the other body parts are similar.
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the added weight of todays competitors is enlarged internal organs and visceral fat.
their dimensions or the other body parts are similar.
and the front lat spread cannot be enhanced by doing site injections.
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Phil's front latspread sucks because of his structure
Not true ,it is the way he hits that pose , these new guys bring their elbows and shoulders forward , like they are hitting a back lat spread , instead of slightly leaning back .
This is the right way to do it
(https://i.imgur.com/wqLsz0R.jpg)
(http://www.ambal.ru/96252089441.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=419815.0;attach=462147)
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What the heck are you talking about? ??? He's not kilos heavier than guys in the 90s , he competes at 245-250 , Phil's front latspread sucks because of his structure
Flex Wheeler 225 finishes in 2nd place. Shawn ray 210 finishes in 3rd. Phil is not even the biggest and is 250. There is zero doubt that guys nowadays weigh more on stage. Zero debate about it. What there IS to debate about, is whether bodybuilding is moving in the right direction in that sense? Many will say no...
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Che is correct, you have to slightly lean back when doing a front lat spread.
Case in point: Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO. As you can see, Mr. Goodrum leans back, which accentuates his excellent V-taper.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2j0gk0h.png)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110931.0;attach=125032;image)
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Not true ,it is the way he hits that pose , these new guys bring their elbows and shoulders forward , like they are hitting a back lat spread , instead of slightly leaning back .
This is the right way to do it
(https://i.imgur.com/wqLsz0R.jpg)
(http://www.ambal.ru/96252089441.jpg)
Daniele Seccarecci.. RIP
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What the heck are you talking about? ??? He's not kilos heavier than guys in the 90s , he competes at 245-250 , Phil's front latspread sucks because of his structure
The question becomes where exactly is this extra weight located. Phil and Flex are the same height. I think it’s pretty obvious. See be there’s post for the answer.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t7lMXHPaaOc/WMldOsLgkFI/AAAAAAAABhI/R-Rrh9CsvLAGR1zKAhP6imtnKkMWRR27QCLcB/s1600/Flex-Wheeler-arms-workout.jpg)
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Phil with Flex's mid section and arnolds chest would be the perfect bodybuilder
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I doubt you could find a pic of flex that looks this bad:
(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/phil-heath-gut-mr-olympia.png)
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I prefer Flex over Phil, Lizzy. I was a big fan of Flex
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(http://d19g4gpzvd3fw4.cloudfront.net/images/contests/560/large/2798410.jpg)
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Not great either
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=640893.0;attach=752144;image)
Rhoden's time is over. He has been watery with a gut for three Olympias in a row. People forget that he is one of the older competitors as well. All he can hope to do at this point is NOT regress substantially.
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Che is correct, you have to slightly lean back when doing a front lat spread.
Case in point: Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO. As you can see, Mr. Goodrum leans back, which accentuates his excellent V-taper.
;D ;D ;D
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I doubt you could find a pic of flex that looks this bad:
(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/phil-heath-gut-mr-olympia.png)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-BidJFMPBBc/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Che is correct, you have to slightly lean back when doing a front lat spread.
Case in point: Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO. As you can see, Mr. Goodrum leans back, which accentuates his excellent V-taper.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2j0gk0h.png)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110931.0;attach=125032;image)
Vincetharlamuleback living the dream I hope vegan Gains realised who he pissed of .
this time
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The first five photos were taken from an angle a bit to the competitors' left, as opposed to directly head-on, so they're not the best to use to critique them in that pose.
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I doubt you could find a pic of flex that looks this bad:
(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/phil-heath-gut-mr-olympia.png)
Close. But yeah, it would be hard to find many competitors from that era with big guts. Unlike today where it is near impossible to find any competitors without bulging bellies.
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Flex Wheeler and Mike Francois at the 1995 Arnold Classic
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/24/8d/8f/248d8fa6554c2c7cbec32ad97515a003.jpg)
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Great shot, but the morphing is a bit extreme.
J
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This.
Phils back is one of the best and Rhoden has a nice back double bi.
If Phil looks great from the back, and is kilos heavier than alot of people that competed in the 90's. There is no doubt that his lat spread is going to be better if done correctly.
Rhoden's BDB is not nice. It's laughable. He's like two different bodybuilders. One from the front, and one from the back.
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Even super heavyweights like Ronnie and Jay knew that they had to purposely hold in their guts (they both had guts). But they held them in the best that they could
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Close. But yeah, it would be hard to find many competitors from that era with big guts. Unlike today where it is near impossible to find any competitors without bulging bellies.
Yep, Flex had that gut back in 96-97. He was trying to hold it in.
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I always remember the great front lat spreads of Phil Williams and Jacques Neuville.
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I always remember the great front lat spreads of Phil Williams and Jacques Neuville.
Neuville was the only other guy in the Olympia lineup who could rival Lee Haney in back width.
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Neuville was the only other guy in the Olympia lineup who could rival Lee Haney in back width.
Man, I am looking at his pics. He had a blocky look, and his back width wasn't all that good. Great detail from the front.
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Thinking back quite a few years ago, there are a few bodybuilders who could really pull off a tremendous front lat spread. In their day, Willie Johnson, Paul Santos, Jim Morris, Ken Covington, George Paine, and Peter Grymkowski could really bring it. If Tim Wescott is still posting here, he could probably identify some great front lat spreads. His depth of knowledge regarding bodybuilding history is second to none.
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I doubt you could find a pic of flex that looks this bad:
(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/phil-heath-gut-mr-olympia.png)
his asscheeks look like a loaded diaper full of shit.
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Haney '91 / Dorian '93
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Roelly looks mighty good there! Perhaps time for Dubai to adopt him.
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Che is correct, you have to slightly lean back when doing a front lat spread.
Case in point: Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO. As you can see, Mr. Goodrum leans back, which accentuates his excellent V-taper.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2j0gk0h.png)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110931.0;attach=125032;image)
Not true, he pulls forward to mitigate the longer limb length:
(https://a3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/51/e9c74ef9dadc5b050af2fc346afadc4e/full.jpg)
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his asscheeks look like a loaded diaper full of shit.
Lmfao
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Arnold and Sergio lat spreads
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Phil Williams and Robby. I guess a small waist does help :)
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That Robby shot is perfection.
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Man, I am looking at his pics. He had a blocky look, and his back width wasn't all that good. Great detail from the front.
got to disagree. in the early 80s he was fairly aesthetic with signature french abdominal development. at the 82 Olympia he looked like a BETTER version of Zane yet Zane placed much higher than Jacques. Jacques had much better leg and back detail and thickness while looking less blocky. Jacques came in better in the next years but he never caught the judges eyes plus the competition improved alot.
it's actually quite impressive how much the sport progressed between 82/83 and 87, 88. in a span of 5 years the production quality of the shows and the size and detail of the physiques were on a whole different level.
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got to disagree. in the early 80s he was fairly aesthetic with signature french abdominal development. at the 82 Olympia he looked like a BETTER version of Zane yet Zane placed much higher than Jacques. Jacques had much better leg and back detail and thickness while looking less blocky. Jacques came in better in the next years but he never caught the judges eyes plus the competition improved alot.
it's actually quite impressive how much the sport progressed between 82/83 and 87, 88. in a span of 5 years the production quality of the shows and the size and detail of the physiques were on a whole different level.
That's a good observation. The physiques did improve a lot in a short period of time from the early '80's to the later '80's. A lot of the '70's bodybuilders were getting older and still competing in the early 1980's (Dickerson, Zane, Boyer Coe, Tinerino) and a new group of younger bodybuilders came along around that time and made their mark on the sport in the pro ranks a couple years later (Haney, Gaspari, Labrada, Christian, DeMey).
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Che is correct, you have to slightly lean back when doing a front lat spread.
Case in point: Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO. As you can see, Mr. Goodrum leans back, which accentuates his excellent V-taper.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2j0gk0h.png)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110931.0;attach=125032;image)
He is unironically doing the pose correctly
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Regarding posing, it has basically never happened in the history of the sport that a pro changed/improved their posing. You can't teach posing and you can't re-learn posing once your posing style is set at the start of the bodybuilding career. So giving posing advice is completely useless.
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Che is correct, you have to slightly lean back when doing a front lat spread.
Case in point: Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO. As you can see, Mr. Goodrum leans back, which accentuates his excellent V-taper.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2j0gk0h.png)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110931.0;attach=125032;image)
Brutal.
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(http://i67.tinypic.com/2j0gk0h.png)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110931.0;attach=125032;image)
pics from Chad Nicholls secret archive ?