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My guess is a mild "maintenance" cycle
3g of test per week
GH (if he can get it it)
some clen before any shirt removing appearances, e.g recent posing in Dubai
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You know Jay has a special drawer in his fridge for the gh
Prob lays off androgens as much as he can
Prob very friendly with peptides as is Ron C
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just ask him ;D
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He pays alimony once a month.
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Cycle? Those are for guys who actually go off.
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This is his "stack"
(http://iforce.co.nz/i/t0m5m4me.zvi.png)
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the GH in his refrigerator was inadvertent revelation from one of his mitsuru videos.
btw - does mitsuru do videos anymore?
Jay probably cycles between low and high dosages, never really coming off.
Some cannot live without the size.
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My guess is a mild "maintenance" cycle
3g of test per week
GH (if he can get it it)
some clen before any shirt removing appearances, e.g recent posing in Dubai
Don't wanna sound rude, but does anyone cares? 500 mgs/maximum
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My guess is a mild "maintenance" cycle
3g of test per week
GH (if he can get it it)
some clen before any shirt removing appearances, e.g recent posing in Dubai
I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month. Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime. Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance. That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything. So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that. At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass. The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low. That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago]. That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all. :) Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170. I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked. I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.
Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is. So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger]. As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass. But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.
That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry. It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was. Nor is that size good for his health! In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb. I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE! That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%. But still, that would be big. I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.
I can't know what Jay currently uses. But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said. I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not? Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size? After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.
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I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month. Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime. Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance. That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything. So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that. At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass. The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low. That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago]. That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all. :) Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170. I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked. I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.
Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is. So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger]. As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass. But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.
That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry. It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was. Nor is that size good for his health! In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb. I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE! That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%. But still, that would be big. I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided was worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.
I can't know what Jay currently uses. But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said. I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not? Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size? After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.
He's bigger than guys running 5x what he's running. Given he's already built a foundation and only needs to maintain. But still, if you put it into that perspective, 2-3 grams doesn't seem too far fetched.
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It really does not take much to maintain size once you have it. 500mg of test and 4-6iu of GH would be plenty to maintain a 230-240lb bodyweight that is fairly lean. It does not take anywhere near 3 grams of test a week to maintain that, especially if he was used to being around 300lb before. Now getting in top shape would obviously require much more, but to simply walk around at 230-240lb is not difficult with a moderate dose of test and some GH. It's absolutely insane some of the dosages people run, and they don't even weigh 200lbs and still fat. Guys using grams of test, tren, etc. and still can't crack 200lb. Time to find a different hobby.
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I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month. Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime. Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance. That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything. So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that. At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass. The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low. That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago]. That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all. :) Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170. I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked. I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.
Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is. So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger]. As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass. But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.
That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry. It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was. Nor is that size good for his health! In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb. I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE! That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%. But still, that would be big. I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided was worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.
I can't know what Jay currently uses. But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said. I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not? Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size? After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.
;D ;D
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It really does not take much to maintain size once you have it. 500mg of test and 4-6iu of GH would be plenty to maintain a 230-240lb bodyweight that is fairly lean. It does not take anywhere near 3 grams of test a week to maintain that, especially if he was used to being around 300lb before. Now getting in top shape would obviously require much more, but to simply walk around at 230-240lb is not difficult with a moderate dose of test and some GH. It's absolutely insane some of the dosages people run, and they don't even weigh 200lbs and still fat. Guys using grams of test, tren, etc. and still can't crack 200lb. Time to find a different hobby.
Sorry but 500mg of test and 6iu of gh does not equate to 240 at 5'7" with sub 10%~ bf. If that was the case if he upped the doses and added IGF etc he'd be on stage at 400 lbs
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I would say 200mg of test and 2iu growth, a liberal HRT. If Jay needs to boost his size he can easily do a mini cycle and gain 20lbs within days. He's not on "grams" anymore.
GH (if he can get it it)
Lol
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My guess is a mild "maintenance" cycle
3g of test per week
GH (if he can get it it)
some clen before any shirt removing appearances, e.g recent posing in Dubai
lmao...you're joking, right? lol
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I would say 200mg of test and 2iu growth, a liberal HRT. If Jay needs to boost his size he can easily do a mini cycle and gain 20lbs within days. He's not on "grams" anymore.
Lol
Ya right he would disappear. So called experts lol.
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Three grams each week?!
Holy fucksticks. This is madness.
I can’t believe something so nutty.
And anyway, he looks like shit.
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I would say 200mg of test and 2iu growth, a liberal HRT. If Jay needs to boost his size he can easily do a mini cycle and gain 20lbs within days. He's not on "grams" anymore.
Lol
This. People don't understand what pharm gh can do for holding muscle especially in older guys.
Wow Weinberger's head is almost as big as Jay's. :D
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Bev’s transitioning nicely
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Bev’s transitioning nicely
She used to come to my gym on occasion back in the day when she powerlifted. Beast!
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She used to come to my gym on occasion back in the day when she powerlifted. Beast!
She has that classic lesbian gym teacher look
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She has that classic lesbian gym teacher look
One bullish bitch. By this point her clit must be like Heath’s nose.
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She has that classic lesbian gym teacher look
Exactly and she had some work done to look more fem when she began bodybuilding.
Always a nice women.
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This. People don't understand what pharm gh can do for holding muscle especially in older guys.
Wow Weinberger's head is almost as big as Jay's. :D
Jay looks awesome there and weinbergers headbis bigger than jays haha.
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He's bigger than guys running 5x what he's running. Given he's already built a foundation and only needs to maintain. But still, if you put it into that perspective, 2-3 grams doesn't seem too far fetched.
I think you are right that whatever Jay uses is probably pretty darn high. Is Jay's father still alive? I think he would be 90 this year if so. He was 46 when Jay was born. So Jay has pretty good genetics, but that level of gear abuse will likely catch up with him eventually. Sad that a bodybuilder can't enjoy retirement life without being a shell of his former self. A retired hockey player has nowhere near the skill he once did, but you can't tell that just by looking at one. But with bodybuilders, everyone can tell, which tempts them to continue to use PEDs in large quantities. It's kind of sad. Meanwhile, both a retired bodybuilder and a retired hockey player are nowhere near what they were at their respective primes - it's just that you can only tell that with the retired bodybuilder.
Just one thing though, QuietYou - you said some use 5x what Jay did, but was that an exaggeration? If Jay is using 2-3 grams a week, do you really think others are running up to 10-15 grams?
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Jay looks awesome there and weinbergers headbis bigger than jays haha.
Yes but Jay wins in the chin department. ;)
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Whatever he's doing he looks happy and young. He looks like he takes phenomenal care of himself. Probably has a list of health supplements etc.
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I'd guess 500-1000mg of test a week. More like 500. Maybe 4iu gh.
I'm sure jay is well aware of guys like Nasser using 5g/wk well after retiring and seeing how that worked out for him.
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I'd guess 500-1000mg of test a week. More like 500. Maybe 4iu gh.
I'm sure jay is well aware of guys like Nasser using 5g/wk well after retiring and seeing how that worked out for him.
Exactly what I was thinking
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My guess is a mild "maintenance" cycle
3g of test per week
GH (if he can get it it)
some clen before any shirt removing appearances, e.g recent posing in Dubai
3grams are you nuts, why would he be on that much gear? TRT 500mg max.
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Maintaining in Dubai
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Gay Slutler
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Exactly and she had some work done to look more fem when she began bodybuilding.
Always a nice women.
Agree she am an nice women. ;D
But that Narwhal cl1t be punching low in them thar briefs.... #taffinapproved
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3grams are you nuts, why would he be on that much gear? TRT 500mg max.
When did 500mg become trt? :D It's meant to keep you in a normal heathy range not 4000ng/dl.
All these crazy doses has skewed peoples logic when looking at gear.
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When did 500mg become trt? :D It's meant to keep you in a normal heathy range not 4000ng/dl.
All these crazy doses has skewed peoples logic when looking at gear.
Seems like most big guys can maintain on bout 250 test per week
At least that's what I have gathered from.reading many gear forums
I plan to maintain on 250-300 deca once it's all said and done
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Seems like most big guys can maintain on bout 250 test per week
At least that's what I have gathered from.reading many gear forums
I plan to maintain on 250-300 deca once it's all said and done
What the fuck do you have to maintain?
You're smaller than the kid with a mustache in middle school.
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What the fuck do you have to maintain?
You're smaller than the kid with a mustache in middle school.
Sure i am bigeroxic 😘
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Sure i am bigeroxic 😘
You would lose the muscularity round to a holocaust survivor.
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I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month. Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime. Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance. That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything. So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that. At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass. The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low. That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago]. That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all. Smiley Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170. I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked. I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.
Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is. So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger]. As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass. But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.
That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry. It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was. Nor is that size good for his health! In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb. I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE! That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%. But still, that would be big. I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.
I can't know what Jay currently uses. But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said. I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not? Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size? After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.
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contrary to what most "pros" claim, most don't come off after retirement. (Ronnie being a notable exception)
Hell, even Bob Chick is on a mild testosterone maintenance protocol.
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I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month. Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime. Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance. That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything. So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that. At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass. The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low. That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago]. That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all. Smiley Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170. I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked. I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.
Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is. So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger]. As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass. But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.
That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry. It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was. Nor is that size good for his health! In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb. I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE! That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%. But still, that would be big. I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.
I can't know what Jay currently uses. But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said. I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not? Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size? After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.
Wes why are you plagiarizing Matt? He and a team of his lawyers will sue you for the aforementioned plagiarism of his long winded, never ending reply.
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contrary to what most "pros" claim, most don't come off after retirement. (Ronnie being a notable exception)
Hell, even Bob Chick is on a mild testosterone maintenance protocol.
I don't know of any pros that claim to be off after they retire. I think they all acknowledge being on hormone replacement therapy. ( note HRT not just t r t. Meaning all hormones are controled. Testosterone growth hormone thyroid.. possibly insulin depending on the growth hormone dose and how well their body regulates blood glucose levels after years or decades growth hormone use... Being mindful of dht levels as well. )
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Why does Cutler dress like a high school kid? Also his chest is getting that droopy sausage tit look, he should drop 50 pounds and go for the health look.
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Why does Cutler dress like a high school kid? Also his chest is getting that droopy sausage tit look, he should drop 50 pounds and go for the health look.
What you didn't buy his new shirt? ;)
I wonder how he would look at 185 and what it would take to get down that much (maybe go off all gear, tons of cardio and circuits). Also I wonder if he would have loose skin from it.
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What you didn't buy his new shirt? ;)
I wonder how he would look at 185 and what it would take to get down that much (maybe go off all gear, tons of cardio and circuits). Also I wonder if he would have loose skin from it.
Horrendous style, especially those skinny sweat pants, those are meant for physique guys like Buendia, and how does a guy have a full head of hair while competing and injecting tons of drugs, then loose all his hair now that he's retired/less drugs?
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Horrendous style, especially those skinny sweat pants, those are meant for physique guys like Buendia, and how does a guy have a full head of hair while competing and injecting tons of drugs, then loose all his hair now that he's retired/less drugs?
What the fuc I hadn't even noticed those pants until you mentioned it
Dude is fucking regressing. If somebody told me tomorrow they had video of Jay cruising the parking lots of community colleges trying to hang out with whoever the hell hangs out in Community College parking lots, I would not be at all surprised
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I would say 200mg of test and 2iu growth, a liberal HRT. If Jay needs to boost his size he can easily do a mini cycle and gain 20lbs within days. He's not on "grams" anymore.
Lol
On the money you will always have the high dose followers who think its all about mgs and IUs and it is but to lesser degree, genetics and response play a huge part, guys with bad response find it hard to accept
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What the fuc I hadn't even noticed those pants until you mentioned it
Dude is fucking regressing. If somebody told me tomorrow they had video of Jay cruising the parking lots of community colleges trying to hang out with whoever the hell hangs out in Community College parking lots, I would not be at all surprised
Has the backward hat thing going in a lot of pics now too.
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Has the backward hat thing going in a lot of pics now too.
Goodness... He's dressing like Justin beiber
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I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month. Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime. Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance. That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything. So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that. At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass. The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low. That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago]. That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all. :) Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170. I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked. I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.
Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is. So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger]. As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass. But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.
That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry. It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was. Nor is that size good for his health! In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb. I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE! That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%. But still, that would be big. I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.
I can't know what Jay currently uses. But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said. I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not? Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size? After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.
Why do you always have to make it about you? Always inserting yourself in the conversation haha :D
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What you didn't buy his new shirt? ;)
I wonder how he would look at 185 and what it would take to get down that much (maybe go off all gear, tons of cardio and circuits). Also I wonder if he would have loose skin from it.
No man should ever wear pants like that, that fad has got to go
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Jay trying to remain young at heart, missing Kerry most likely...
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Jay trying to remain young at heart, missing Kerry most likely...
Last videos I saw okay he had some smoking hot brunette chick living at his house. Prepared to carry I'd say that's an upgrade... Physically at least
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Jay looks like on 500 mg pharma test with 5 IU GH and peptides.
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Jay trying to remain young at heart, missing Kerry most likely...
still missing sex?
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Last videos I saw okay he had some smoking hot brunette chick living at his house. Prepared to carry I'd say that's an upgrade... Physically at least
Kerry got nose job and bolt ons near the end, wasnt bad
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Kerry got nose job and bolt ons near the end, wasnt bad
They were likely for her new dude
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They were likely for her new dude
Good point.
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I think he missed out on a lot of things during his younger years in pursuit of his BB career and now wants to go back and relive everything so he dresses like a young gym thug and looks pathetic. I wonder why he hasn’t sported the hipster look yet. What a douchebag
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Whatever he's taking he made the right choice and reduced it a ton from what it was. At least he has the sense and will power to do that it's just a shame he won't talk honestly about gear usage. I'd love to hear what he really was taking to look so insane for so many years but I don't see that happening for another ten years or so. The way things are going I see bodybuilders having to acknowledge the truth more and more to stay credible, thank fuck!
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No man should ever wear pants like that, that fad has got to go
Would love to see you in some see through black leggings stud
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I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month. Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime. Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance. That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything. So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that. At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass. The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low. That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago]. That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all. Smiley Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170. I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked. I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.
Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is. So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger]. As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass. But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.
That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry. It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was. Nor is that size good for his health! In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb. I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE! That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%. But still, that would be big. I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.
I can't know what Jay currently uses. But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said. I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not? Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size? After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.
"36"... =0)
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I once asked what sort of gear Lou Ferrigno runs to maintain his size - and he is huge given that he just turned 66 last month. Given his age, he is a large man, even if he is nowhere near as big as he was in his prime. Someone replied that Lou likely runs about a gram of testosterone a week for maintenance. That seemed HUGE to me, but I suppose for top level bodybuilders, that is hardly anything. So it is quite possible that Jay runs more than that. At the same time, at Jay's current age [44], it is probably not hard for him to maintain a higher level of body mass. The issue is most likely keeping his body fat low. That would be hard to do, and something I have maybe found a touch more difficult to do ever since turning 35 [I turned 36 seven days ago]. That said, I have not trained at all since April 1st - a long time, I know, but I will start again next week and be ready for the 2018 stronger season by May 1st, no problems at all. Smiley Even faster if I ran gear, but I can't really do that if I expect to compete at 170. I am currently 185-lb in clothes, so I am likely 183 naked, as opposed to 173 naked. I would probably be 178 if I trained, so I probably have 5-lb of body fat more than I normally do...but that's not so bad for 36 years old, and just starting to see my metabolism slow down.
Relating that to Cutler - and this is just a guess - but I assume maintaining muscle mass is not overly hard for him, but staying lean is. So maybe he does use three grams of testosterone a week, or perhaps he is closer to the gram allegedly used by Lou [according to the speculations of one Getbigger]. As with any aging male, maintaining body weight is probably not difficult for him - even muscle mass. But cutting body fat is another matter entirely, and likely something he has some "help" for.
That said, Jay still has some commercial interest in bodybuilding, so he probably wants to have a slightly bigger body than just a bit of muscle, in order to still sell himself in the industry. It is also not likely overly difficult for him to be extremely muscular, albeit not his competitive off-season 315-lb at 5'8.5" that he historically was. Nor is that size good for his health! In a 2002 Ironman article [I believe] he told Lonnie Teper that he wanted to retire at 32, and slim down to around 230-lb. I remember thinking that, Jay being my height, 230-lb would be HUGE! That was not taking into consideration a higher body fat percentage though, perhaps something closer to 18%. But still, that would be big. I think Jay's success in bodybuilding made him keep going for a lot longer than he wanted to, and whatever health goals he once had, he decided were worth trading in for success in bodybuilding, which he obviously had plenty of.
I can't know what Jay currently uses. But 1-3 grams of testosterone a week [maybe as low as one gram] is likely, as the OP said. I do want to add one thing: three grams seems a bit steep though, does it not? Wouldn't one gram a week coupled with some GH be plenty to maintain his current size? After all, it's not like he is in competition shape anymore.
With todays prohormones and pharmaceutical goodies, he cold run lowwer levels, also he would somewhat be on a maintain program as well a d no need to build, so that could also be done with lower levels. Genetics and response to gear play a big role with people as well, we are all different and respond differently to certain drugs. His receptors may be great and he may respond to 250mg of test or his receptors may be shit, and may need 1,500 to achieve alot less then he did 5, 10, 15 years ago.
Also as the clock turns we need more just to achive the same results. So he may be taking what he did for his first show, and he looked great, now he looks less but the same amount of gear won't come close to what it did for him years and year ago. You know like have a beer, eventually you will need more beer to achieve that buzz.
Truth is only Jay knows, and the likelihood of us ever really knowing, well let's just put it this way, I'm not holding my breath!
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Would love to see you in some see through black leggings stud
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It would only make the bulge much more noticeable
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i dont know what Jay takes... but some of us are hyper responders and dont take much but look like we do... just saying....plus genetics.....one person can get drunk off of one beer and other people have to drink a 12 pack to get drunk.... yes i know tolerance etc... thats the best way i can explain it
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i dont know what Jay takes... but some of us are hyper responders and dont take much but look like we do... just saying....plus genetics.....one person can get drunk off of one beer and other people have to drink a 12 pack to get drunk.... yes i know tolerance etc... thats the best way i can explain it
I had one friend who competed on 25mg tren and 25mg eq eod. Looked great. Guessing he ran more before that judging by what he's told me but you can maintain/keep a very good physique on lower doses once you create one.
He also blows up incredibly fast using low moderate doses after looking like a normal person/being off for awhile so he def falls within the genetically gifted for response as well. Makes one jealous.