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Hey anyone try keto as a natty for extended periods of time? I feel like I hold on to more muscle but losing weight becomes hard as hell as weight stalls. Anyone have any tips? What are your experiences?
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Hey anyone try keto as a natty for extended periods of time? I feel like I hold on to more muscle but losing weight becomes hard as hell as weight stalls. Anyone have any tips? What are your experiences?
tips? mentally tell yourself a leaner version of you is a better look - forgot how you feel
doing this as we speak - I tweaked mt diet and went very similar to the dave palumbo diet. i will be on keto for a good 3 months -
feel weak, flat, but look amazing - skin looks great too
diet/training as of now
2 tablespoons peanut butter/2 scoops whey 6am
4 whole eggs, 4 egg whites 1 tablespoon extra virgin olive oil 7am-730am
green tea/snack on veggies
5 oz red meat, 3 servings asparagus/avocado 11am
2 tablespoons natty peanut butter/2 scoops whey 3pm
6 oz salmon 3 servings asparagus 6pm
late nite snack 4 egg whites with hot chili powder (takes forever to eat/plus feels you up since)
-tons of herbal tea during the day to keep me full (no caffeine)
-salt on all meals
-bcaas and creatine work out/post work
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^ why eat 8 meals on keto? When I'm fully in keto my appetite goes way down. Eat like twice a day is fine. Your 8 meals is a little bit of bodybuilding dogma.
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Hey anyone try keto as a natty for extended periods of time? I feel like I hold on to more muscle but losing weight becomes hard as hell as weight stalls. Anyone have any tips? What are your experiences?
The problem when people go on Keto diet is that technically you can "eat as much protein and fat as you want" and not get fat, assuming youre on zero carbs and have reached keto status. Thats true, and that was the selling point for Atkins diet (now called Keto).
Alot of people abuse that. Im a pretty big guy myself, and lean enough to always get a second look, but i was what they would consider a "linebackers body". For 5-6 years i was hovering around 237 lbs give or take a pound of two. My diet was pretty simple, for 12 hours on sundays i eat whatever the fuck i want, and i mean literally balls to the walls. The other 6.5 days of the week, i would have zero carbs, my only incidental carbs were anything that was in broccoli, asparagus, or Brussels Sprouts . My protein shake for those who care is BSN Syntha6 Isolate which has i think 1g of sugar. On this diet, i would eat as much protein as i wanted, like for dinner i would have at least a 1lb ribeye steak (16oz) + 8-12 oz of veggies, plus leftover from my girlfriends meal. So for example my dinner alone wouldve been 24-36 oz, but on sundays when i weighed in, i was on the dot 237.
about 4 months ago i decided i wanted to do a blast diet, i would still be on keto, but i would weigh my food. i would have 4-5 meals, each 6 oz (4oz protein 2 oz veggie). At first it was hard going from huge portion to such small portion, but the hardest part is the first 15-20 minutes after eating until your brain signals to your stomach that you ate and are full... The results? fucking astonishing... again this is getbig and everyone is huge and shreddeded, but i was a big lean guy at 237, and now i walk around 210. The level of cuts that got are amazing, and all i had to do was do some portion control.
I think carbs are overrated, just as everything is in bodybuilding. you dont need the huge amounts that the pros suggest (unless youre doing hgh/insulin), but for natty or relative low dose users, a form of keto could be something to give a try, it has definately worked for me and i dont see any reason that i would change my diet.
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Hey anyone try keto as a natty for extended periods of time? I feel like I hold on to more muscle but losing weight becomes hard as hell as weight stalls. Anyone have any tips? What are your experiences?
I did, for 6 months, twice. Both times I followed the protocol to a T. I lost a lot of water weight, some fat, but not as much as I hoped. Leg workouts became extremely difficult to complete. I got progressively weaker in the gym as time went by... no matter how hard I trained or how much rest I got.
From my experience, carbs (30-40% of total calories) are absolutely necessary for energy, power and muscle growth. People who claim the opposite are those with little experience, they train like snowflakes, or they are trying to sell you something.
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Say good bye to what you used to call muscle; flat, weak and feel like shit whenever you actually eat normally.
No ta.
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Hey anyone try keto as a natty for extended periods of time? I feel like I hold on to more muscle but losing weight becomes hard as hell as weight stalls. Anyone have any tips? What are your experiences?
Keto will get you shredded, great for precontest if you need to lose a lot of weight, or if you have to get in shape in a very short period of time (photoshoot, vacation) you will look a bit deflated, but just have to understand the minute you put carbs back in your system you will fill back, just watch how much weight you lose the first week, it's pretty much all water due to the glycogen stores being depleted from no carbs, same thing goes when you put the carbs back the weight will shoot right back up.
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When Getbiggers talk about Keto, it seems to be the typical bodybuilding cutting diet of High Protein, Moderate (healthy) Fat, and Low Carbs ... which I usually do for 2-3 months in the Winter.
But a true textbook Ketogenic diet is High Fat (including a lot of unhealthy fat) ... about 65%, Moderate Protein ... about 30%, and Low Carbs ... about 5%.
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When Getbiggers talk about Keto, it seems to be the typical bodybuilding cutting diet of High Protein, Moderate (healthy) Fat, and Low Carbs ... which I usually do for 2-3 months in the Winter.
But a true textbook Ketogenic diet is High Fat (including a lot of unhealthy fat) ... about 65%, Moderate Protein ... about 30%, and Low Carbs ... about 5%.
I've done this approach as well, truthfully the Higher protein keto diet is a performance based approach for athletes and people who are in to training, and all the gluconeogenisis stuff is individual because I tested my blood ketones with a glucometer and test strips once a week, although the ketone read out was a bit lower with the higher protein approach I was still in ketosis, just not deep ketosis like the higher fat approach.
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Thanks for the feedback. Did any of you experience fat loss stagnation while on keto? If so what did you do?
I am currently on but have stopped losing weight and I wanted to do this for several weeks if I decrease calories more than I have I will not have much room to go down in calories with 10 weeks left in my diet.
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I did, for 6 months, twice. Both times I followed the protocol to a T. I lost a lot of water weight, some fat, but not as much as I hoped. Leg workouts became extremely difficult to complete. I got progressively weaker in the gym as time went by... no matter how hard I trained or how much rest I got.
From my experience, carbs (30-40% of total calories) are absolutely necessary for energy, power and muscle growth. People who claim the opposite are those with little experience, they train like snowflakes, or they are trying to sell you something.
This. It’s definitely a way to lose fat in a hurry, but what you give up in the process is your top gear. Once you go over 70% VO2 Max effort, carbs become the primary fuel source and if none are available, performance will suffer, no matter what the keto gurus try to tell you.
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^ why eat 8 meals on keto? When I'm fully in keto my appetite goes way down. Eat like twice a day is fine. Your 8 meals is a little bit of bodybuilding dogma.
Me too
2-3 meals a day is all you need
I think the appetite suppression is THE main benefit of keto
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Me too
2-3 meals a day is all you need
I think the appetite suppression is THE main benefit of keto
That would be a great benefit if hunger were the only reason that people eat, but it’s not. People eat for a wide variety of reasons: boredom, depression, peer pressure, and visual stimulation.
The reason it has a high failure rate is because it’s too restrictive. After a while people get tired of eating that way and want more variety.
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That would be a great benefit if hunger were the only reason that people eat, but it’s not. People eat for a wide variety of reasons: boredom, depression, peer pressure, and visual stimulation.
The reason it has a high failure rate is because it’s too restrictive. After a while people get tired of eating that way and want more variety.
the part that always kills keto for me is the lack of crunchy food. its pork rinds, parmesan crisps or parsnip chips
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the part that always kills keto for me is the lack of crunchy food. its pork rinds, parmesan crisps or parsnip chips
Why not a few mac nuts or Brazil nuts?
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the part that always kills keto for me is the lack of crunchy food. its pork rinds, parmesan crisps or parsnip chips
Those cannot replace a large pizza with toppings, my fav pasta dish or a bowl of ice cream.
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That would be a great benefit if hunger were the only reason that people eat, but it’s not. People eat for a wide variety of reasons: boredom, depression, peer pressure, and visual stimulation.
The reason it has a high failure rate is because it’s too restrictive. After a while people get tired of eating that way and want more variety.
I was specifically talking about DIETING (trying to lose fat) not just "eating"
When you're dieting it's a huge benefit to suppress hunger
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the part that always kills keto for me is the lack of crunchy food. its pork rinds, parmesan crisps or parsnip chips
fried insects
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Those cannot replace a large pizza with toppings, my fav pasta dish or a bowl of ice cream.
That's why i'd never go Full Keto as a way of life and rather just do it (as needed) for a couple of months or so each year. There's no fucking way i'm permanently giving up pizzas, pastas, great sandwiches on tasty bread, ice cream, and my wife's yummy homemade pumpkin and coconut cream pies on occasion. Shit, I look forward to my regular breakfast most mornings which includes steel cut Oats with Greek Yogurt & Blueberries.
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Why not a few mac nuts or Brazil nuts?
Portion control with nuts is very difficult. They’re calorically dense and when you have them in the house it’s all too easy to continually grab a handful.
That's why i'd never go Full Keto as a way of life and rather just do it (as needed) for a couple of months each year. There's no fucking way i'm permanently giving up pizzas, pastas, great sandwiches on tasty bread, ice cream, and my wife's great homemade pumpkin and coconut cream pies on occasion. Shit, I look forward to my regular breakfast every morning which includes steel cut Oats with Greek Yogurt & Blueberries.
IMO, This is the best approach. Eat clean most of the time but don’t be such an obsessive freak that you can’t cut loose on occasion.