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Title: Lee Priest - Why Bodybuilders Stop Training Hard
Post by: Parker on January 17, 2018, 04:21:35 PM
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Bevo on January 17, 2018, 05:18:18 PM
He’s still not dead yet?
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Parker on January 17, 2018, 05:33:18 PM
He’s still not dead yet?
Lol. John Romano mentions posters from Getbig.com coming out of hiding and going to expos and being "135 pounds soaking wet".
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Bevo on January 17, 2018, 05:41:31 PM
Lol. John Romano mentions posters from Getbig.com coming out of hiding and going to expos and being "135 pounds soaking wet".


I saw that so he’s saying they are still bigger than he is with all the drugs he takes haha

He’ll fit right back in here posting since he’s an ex con/criminal
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: oldschoolfan on January 17, 2018, 06:19:42 PM
romano looks like shit,  and more than likely catches for some fast easy cash
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Yanin on January 17, 2018, 06:56:36 PM
I want one of his trophys
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 17, 2018, 07:11:42 PM
I hate to say this ,  but the first sign that you are OLD is when you think everything was better in the past  ...

yes,"back in the days  they trained way harder, way smarter,  the camaraderie was way better and they took way less drugs........   sure .



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH   LEVRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Ropo on January 18, 2018, 01:14:56 AM
I hate to say this ,  but the first sign that you are OLD is when you think everything was better in the past  ...

yes,"back in the days  they trained way harder, way smarter,  the camaraderie was way better and they took way less drugs........   sure .



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH   LEVRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Problem with you guys is the fact that your perspective doesn't come from the experience, but from the pictures and the media. What they say in the video is 100% true. I have seen this all happen, even seen the 80'ties top pro bb:ers at the gym and watch how they were training. Today just about no one is training as hard as they did at daily basis. You need an example?



Most of the guys here thinks that is just insane. No it isn't, it is just training as hard as you can. It seem to be insane just because you can't even imagine yourself doing anything as hard as it looks.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Matt on January 18, 2018, 01:22:25 AM
Re: Lee Priest and other pros saying that they only take a gram of testosterone, then 250mg of Equipoise [Boldenone Undecylenate, a horse steroid]

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!

Some strongmen out there are genetic freaks who take this little.  One of the strongest men who I knew personally was on baby doses if not just steroids, but of food too.  I think he would engineer his cycles in a way that allowed him to get 80% of the gains off 20% of the risk.

But human beings have evolved to be strong.  Human beings have NOT evolved to be muscular.  So no, you can't make crazy gains in muscle mass on that little in terms of PEDs.

The reality is - Lee Priest being able to become so big AT ALL is what makes him a genetic freak!  Most peopl can NEVER EVER become as muscular as he did.  That's the part that makes him a freak.  To suggest he can be that big AND take next to nothing in terms of PED use...that would be freaky on two fronts.

Again - simply being able to be massive - pro bodybuilder size - is itself the genetic gift.  No amount of steroids will make most people that size.  But to get to that size on next to no steroid use would be a whole other level of freakiness - and I don't think anyone can do that.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: DooM_ on January 18, 2018, 03:12:36 AM
injuries and worry of injury , that's why most tone it down or stop . .
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 18, 2018, 03:42:35 AM
One of the very few smart things Ferrigno said back in the day was that "you need to leave the ego out of the gym , you can bench 500 pounds, but if the chest ain't there the judges won't care ".

And Louie was a strong mofo.  Who squatted very heavy with no straps.


Levrone should keep this in mind , uploading clips lifting heavy ass weights won't make any difference when he steps on stage  ( if he ever competes again )
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Bevo on January 18, 2018, 06:13:04 AM
One of the very few smart things Ferrigno said back in the day was that "you need to leave the ego out of the gym , you can bench 500 pounds, but if the chest ain't there the judges won't care ".

And Louie was a strong mofo.  Who squatted very heavy with no straps.


Levrone should keep this in mind , uploading clips lifting heavy ass weights won't make any difference when he steps on stage  ( if he ever competes again )

Lou was not strong at all given how his physique looked, same with Arnold, nothing wrong with that since they are bbers, all an illusion

Franco was one of the only legit strong mans from that era with numbers that are accurate

Lou and Arnold’s numbers and claims were highly exaggerated with no proof
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Bevo on January 18, 2018, 06:15:37 AM
Re: Lee Priest and other pros saying that they only take a gram of testosterone, then 250mg of Equipoise [Boldenone Undecylenate, a horse steroid]

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!

Some strongmen out there are genetic freaks who take this little.  One of the strongest men who I knew personally was on baby doses if not just steroids, but of food too.  I think he would engineer his cycles in a way that allowed him to get 80% of the gains off 20% of the risk.

But human beings have evolved to be strong.  Human beings have NOT evolved to be muscular.  So no, you can't make crazy gains in muscle mass on that little in terms of PEDs.

The reality is - Lee Priest being able to become so big AT ALL is what makes him a genetic freak!  Most peopl can NEVER EVER become as muscular as he did.  That's the part that makes him a freak.  To suggest he can be that big AND take next to nothing in terms of PED use...that would be freaky on two fronts.

Again - simply being able to be massive - pro bodybuilder size - is itself the genetic gift.  No amount of steroids will make most people that size.  But to get to that size on next to no steroid use would be a whole other level of freakiness - and I think anyone can do that.

Not sure if anyone really cares when you are “5’4”

Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 18, 2018, 07:16:14 AM
Lou was not strong at all given how his physique looked, same with Arnold, nothing wrong with that since they are bbers, all an illusion

Franco was one of the only legit strong mans from that era with numbers that are accurate

Lou and Arnold’s numbers and claims were highly exaggerated with no proof

Lou used to squat over 600 plus pounds, benched 5 plates......   If that's not strong at all "



WooOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: wes on January 18, 2018, 12:03:59 PM
I bet if you ask Coach,he can tell you that no one traind as nearly as hard as we did in the old days.'

No bitterness,just plain old fact.

I got a PM from Aceto who used to train at our gym in Springfield Ma. and he saids todays guys are just complete wusses when it somes to training hard!
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
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Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: fredrollon on January 18, 2018, 12:12:44 PM
Lou was not strong at all given how his physique looked, same with Arnold, nothing wrong with that since they are bbers, all an illusion

Franco was one of the only legit strong mans from that era with numbers that are accurate

Lou and Arnold’s numbers and claims were highly exaggerated with no proof

Lou didn't  disgrace himself ,in the first WSM from 1977:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFq0m8XoLd0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFq0m8XoLd0)
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: ratherbebig on January 18, 2018, 01:00:01 PM
i wonder which bodybuilders they were talking about and when?

lee haney in the 80s talked about stimulating not annihilating

he has to this day the most sandows
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: honest on January 18, 2018, 02:15:06 PM
Theres no blood and guts in the modern era, Just mgs and ius.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: johnny1 on January 18, 2018, 02:37:14 PM

LMAO...back in the 80s if all these idiots taking selfies talking etc etc would be taken outside and belted was exactly right, yup some of us had the walkmans and we’d turn the stereos up loud in the gym BUT we were there too TRAIN and train fucking hard the gym I went too was called the Dungeon, it had steel walls and floors metal mesh across the windows, it leaked and it stank.

But Jesus Christ the few of us that trained there were all there too get bigger, stronger etc..and he’s right about the drugs as well...nobody talked about them back then it was a hush hush subject it was all about establishing a BASE....balls too the walls training...lots of good food...getting the rest needed....and in that order

Nowadays it’s the reverse...DRUGS...Drugs. ..Food...food...Rest...T raining... :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: ESFitness on January 18, 2018, 08:18:08 PM
romano looks like shit,  and more than likely catches for some fast easy cash

You and your obsession with men having sex with men.

There's no other term for it other than obsession. 80 or 90% of your posts on here have to do with men having sex with men and men performing sexual favors for other men. What does that say about you?
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: ESFitness on January 18, 2018, 08:30:34 PM
One of the very few smart things Ferrigno said back in the day was that "you need to leave the ego out of the gym , you can bench 500 pounds, but if the chest ain't there the judges won't care ".

And Louie was a strong mofo.  Who squatted very heavy with no straps.


Levrone should keep this in mind , uploading clips lifting heavy ass weights won't make any difference when he steps on stage  ( if he ever competes again )

Levrone is just trying get attention to sell supplements. He can't seriously believe he has a chance at winning.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: IRON CROSS on January 19, 2018, 12:35:53 AM
He’s still not dead yet?

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: IRON CROSS on January 19, 2018, 12:38:08 AM
Not sure if anyone really cares when you are “5’4”




But he is good forklift driver  ;D
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: kevcat on January 19, 2018, 01:24:50 AM
Problem with you guys is the fact that your perspective doesn't come from the experience, but from the pictures and the media. What they say in the video is 100% true. I have seen this all happen, even seen the 80'ties top pro bb:ers at the gym and watch how they were training. Today just about no one is training as hard as they did at daily basis. You need an example?



Most of the guys here thinks that is just insane. No it isn't, it is just training as hard as you can. It seem to be insane just because you can't even imagine yourself doing anything as hard as it looks.

I agree with this and ive only been training since 16 yo, so 15 years +. I remember first going to the gym when I started and it was big , older men in shit baggy pants lifting heavy ass weights. It was crazy.
Now all you see if young guys in groups of 3-4, dressed in latest fashion all laughing, joking, taking selfies, and doing a few reps on some chest machine and getting up after it to check the pump in their tiny chest.
I absolutely cant stand what has become of gyms now. I guess it all came about thanks to social media.
I certainly loved the days when it was only serious trainers who went to gyms.
Now its a fashion thing.  :(

As for pro bodybuilders, none of us can really comment on what Priest is saying, as I don't train with any.
But going by the general gym states, its probably true.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: milone79 on January 19, 2018, 04:01:55 AM
LMAO...back in the 80s if all these idiots taking selfies talking etc etc would be taken outside and belted was exactly right, yup some of us had the walkmans and we’d turn the stereos up loud in the gym BUT we were there too TRAIN and train fucking hard the gym I went too was called the Dungeon, it had steel walls and floors metal mesh across the windows, it leaked and it stank.

But Jesus Christ the few of us that trained there were all there too get bigger, stronger etc..and he’s right about the drugs as well...nobody talked about them back then it was a hush hush subject it was all about establishing a BASE....balls too the walls training...lots of good food...getting the rest needed....and in that order

Nowadays it’s the reverse...DRUGS...Drugs. ..Food...food...Rest...T raining... :-\ :-\ :-\

TRUTH!!!!!!! Generation Nothing makes me sick!!!!!
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: VladimirVersic on January 19, 2018, 04:18:26 AM
Ok. And why pros can't put their egos aside (excluding ocasional look at me thread) and post on this site?  ???  ;D
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 20, 2018, 01:14:26 PM


This was a great discussion and I agree with it. If anyone is old enough to remember and/or be there during those times it was pretty much as they described. That was the real bodybuilding culture.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: ratherbebig on January 20, 2018, 02:02:24 PM
that people trained hard back in the day is a myth

Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 20, 2018, 03:18:33 PM
that people trained hard back in the day is a myth



Were you there? I trained at the same gyms they did and before
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Go 4 It on January 20, 2018, 03:22:39 PM
I like all the stuff Rx is doing with Lee, Kamali, Milos..it's great content. I'm sure the gyms were more hardcore back in the day, had to be one hell of an environment back in the Golds days.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: ratherbebig on January 20, 2018, 04:21:27 PM
Were you there? I trained at the same gyms they did and before


depends on what you mean by where and when.

in the 80's we had lee haney, there's footage of his training on youtube, he went by the 'stimulate not annihilate'.

in the early 90's we had dorian yates, he trained hard, and the whole purpose of his video was to show that he trained hard, now if everybody was training hard, that video would never have been made.

in the late 90's early 00's we had ronnie coleman, again, whole point of video - showing how hard he trains.

this tells us that training hard was THE EXCEPTION not the rule since the 80's and onwards.

to wonder in 2018 why bodybuilders stopped training hard, something that they havent been doing for at least 30+ years seems quite strange, its not like it''s a new phenomena.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Parker on January 20, 2018, 04:30:21 PM

depends on what you mean by where and when.

in the 80's we had lee haney, there's footage of his training on youtube, he went by the 'stimulate not annihilate'.

in the early 90's we had dorian yates, he trained hard, and the whole purpose of his video was to show that he trained hard, now if everybody was training hard, that video would never have been made.

in the late 90's early 00's we had ronnie coleman, again, whole point of video - showing how hard he trains.

this tells us that training hard was THE EXCEPTION not the rule since the 80's and onwards.

to wonder in 2018 why bodybuilders stopped training hard, something that they havent been doing for at least 30+ years seems quite strange, its not like it''s a new phenomena.
Ronnie and Dorian trained in a manner that resulted in them getting injured. Haney trained in a manner to get the best results, and he left the game, young with no injuries.
Each training philosophy was different, yet yielded the same results, multiple  Sandows. And each one trained hard, but a different variation of "hard".
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: ratherbebig on January 20, 2018, 04:35:40 PM
“My goal was to always stimulate the muscle. I didn’t want to push it to failure because it increased my chances of injury and I also felt that if I did enough to stimulate the area I was training then I could recover better than if I went to failure. I used methods like the pre-exhuast method of using isolation movements first like leg extensions before doing a compound exercise like squats and that made the workouts more intense for me.” - Lee Haney
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Ropo on January 20, 2018, 10:18:12 PM
that people trained hard back in the day is a myth for those who doesn't even know what "training hard" means.


Fixed..
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: NelsonMuntz on January 20, 2018, 10:45:00 PM
I bet if you ask Coach,he can tell you that no one traind as nearly as hard as we did in the old days.'

No bitterness,just plain old fact.

I got a PM from Aceto who used to train at our gym in Springfield Ma. and he saids todays guys are just complete wusses when it somes to training hard!

so true.

and one thing I notice today as well, that although there are alot of people doing squats and deads, you never see any of these young guys who really challenge themselves and do a heavy high rep set of squats or deadlifts and more

I remember when I was in my first gym in 86 people used to go to positive failure with warm ups and no young guys did a high repe wamr up on bench, squats etc with anything less than a plate lol

I can't do that shit anymore myself but hell it was easy back then, my point is the young guy today train like a bunch of fa gs and most think they are huge on gear at 5'11 and 180 lol, nevermind all these online assholes going on a cocktail of gear to cut up to walk around the arnold or olympia expo

use to be training, food, then for some gear but in an 8-12 week cycle once or twice a year, now it's boatloading underdosed gear, a ton of shit food, and train 45 minutes 4 times a week
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Mobil on January 20, 2018, 10:47:54 PM
Training heavy is about perception...people that train heavy have a "thick" look to their muscles
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 20, 2018, 10:56:23 PM
Training heavy is about perception...people that train heavy have a "thick" look to their muscles

Thicker and more dense
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: VladimirVersic on January 21, 2018, 03:14:24 AM
Problem with you guys is the fact that your perspective doesn't come from the experience, but from the pictures and the media. What they say in the video is 100% true. I have seen this all happen, even seen the 80'ties top pro bb:ers at the gym and watch how they were training. Today just about no one is training as hard as they did at daily basis. You need an example?



Most of the guys here thinks that is just insane. No it isn't, it is just training as hard as you can. It seem to be insane just because you can't even imagine yourself doing anything as hard as it looks.
Wached the vid before and and this kind of training is very motivating for me.
And i can relate since myself i trained in simillar fashion.
The hardest i trained when i did intansity or insanity from Michalic/ Defendis training.
Today this kind of training is insane becouse it is not fake.
 ;D
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on January 21, 2018, 05:46:26 AM
Dorian was good because he didn't overtrain and didn't train his ego. He let the body recover, his injuries came during pre contest when he should have just gone a bit lighter but still to failure. As long as you are training the muscle doing heavier weights won't matter.

Ronnie is just stupid.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: VladimirVersic on January 21, 2018, 06:26:16 AM
Dorian was good because he didn't overtrain and didn't train his ego. He let the body recover, his injuries came during pre contest when he should have just gone a bit lighter but still to failure. As long as you are training the muscle doing heavier weights won't matter.

Ronnie is just stupid.
If you train beyond failure with heavier weight. There is a larger possibility of injury with it vs light weight and going beyond failure.
It isnt as obvious as just train light and you will achieve the most from your genetics.
For example Serge Nubret proponent of lighter weight training.
Said that he regreted not lifting heavier in his training.
And that is coming from a guy that was strong from the begining.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: ratherbebig on January 21, 2018, 07:57:54 AM
Training heavy is about perception...people that train heavy have a "thick" look to their muscles

another myth

up there with the bullshit of 'grainy muscle'
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: Mobil on January 21, 2018, 10:45:44 AM
another myth

up there with the bullshit of 'grainy muscle'

people tell me my muscles have a thick look to them. i train really heavy
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: ratherbebig on January 21, 2018, 10:51:53 AM
people tell me my muscles have a thick look to them. i train really heavy

i think we need a few more people in order to make the case

maybe if we can agree on a certain group of athletes as training hard (powerlifters, gymnasts, sprinters, strong men, wrestlers or whatever)

i dont think the hard training-crowd is to be found in bodybuilding, if there is such a group, it is in a professional sport.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: IRON CROSS on January 22, 2018, 01:22:00 AM
I want one of his trophys

The best BB trophies have  NAC International, NAC's Mr.Universe trophy kills Sandow statue , Nac World trophy is nice 1 too.

Trofeo Due Torri in Italy give away very classy one too.

Google 4 it.
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: falco on January 22, 2018, 08:41:21 AM
One of the very few smart things Ferrigno said back in the day was that "you need to leave the ego out of the gym , you can bench 500 pounds, but if the chest ain't there the judges won't care ".

And Louie was a strong mofo.  Who squatted very heavy with no straps.


Levrone should keep this in mind , uploading clips lifting heavy ass weights won't make any difference when he steps on stage  ( if he ever competes again )

Kevin already adressed that subject. Light weights do not work on him.
Title: Re: Lee Priest - Why Bodybuilders Stop Training Hard
Post by: SilverSpoon on January 22, 2018, 08:51:03 AM
Precisely why I am not a member of any gym.

Today I trained posterior chain (Hammer Strength Hip and Back) as well as Nautilus 4 way neck, in my basement. 

Sort of a spine pre-hab day.  And very good movements for the upcoming golf season. 

Tomorrow will be a series of shoulder movements, along with some smaller, neglected areas (direct bicep work, grip, etc.)
Title: Re: Lee Priest:Why Bbers Stop Training Hard
Post by: VladimirVersic on January 22, 2018, 10:18:08 AM
Kevin already adressed that subject. Light weights do not work on him.
Good memory. And yes he did.