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Title: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: loco on February 02, 2018, 09:16:52 AM
Feb 2, 2018

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House on Friday declassified a partisan and bitterly disputed memo on the Russia investigation, clearing the way for House Republicans to release allegations of what they say is FBI misconduct.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-set-defy-fbi-allow-release-classified-memo-052013379--politics.html

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Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 02, 2018, 09:43:27 AM
https://www.axios.com/read-nunes-memo-fbi-doj-fisa-mueller-7fb8bcb7-1f18-4294-aa95-628d2f67bcdf.html


Dems and MSM in full lockdown denial.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: loco on February 02, 2018, 12:45:15 PM
Have you read the memo?

https://www.scribd.com/document/370599922/White-House-declassifies-the-Nunes-memo#fullscreen&from_embed
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: illuminati on February 02, 2018, 12:55:28 PM
Have you read the memo?

https://www.scribd.com/document/370599922/White-House-declassifies-the-Nunes-memo#fullscreen&from_embed

Oh dear
The DOJ / FBI /DNC & Killary Clingon anything to say ??

Strawweight your help & answers please.........

I know Blame Trump.. ::)
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: loco on February 02, 2018, 01:31:10 PM
Long story short, the US Department of Justice(DOJ) and the US Federal Bureau of Investigation(FBI) were working with the DNC, with Hillary and possibly with the Obama administration, abusing their power, playing dirty tricks and breaking the law in order to do everything in their power to insure Trump lost the presidential election.

This is an outrage.  You American citizens are gonna put up with this $h1t? 

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: loco on February 02, 2018, 01:42:56 PM
Somebody add the FBI and the DOJ to this image.  Trump wasn't supposed to win, but he won against all odds.

(https://news.unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/wp-content/uploads/bfi_thumb/1a1a-n2tt3u0x6nsondxxtjjtdx1jvoyj6nal23f4h0qvtg.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 02, 2018, 02:58:37 PM
Somebody add the FBI and the DOJ to this image.  Trump wasn't supposed to win, but he won against all odds.

(https://news.unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/wp-content/uploads/bfi_thumb/1a1a-n2tt3u0x6nsondxxtjjtdx1jvoyj6nal23f4h0qvtg.jpg)

Well at least he still have his friends in Russia on his side

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Board_SHERIF on February 02, 2018, 03:03:36 PM
Well at least he still have his friends in Russia on his side



explain further....oh wait you cant
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 02, 2018, 04:07:07 PM
There's nothing really in it..it's a dud
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Dos Equis on February 02, 2018, 04:15:45 PM
Somebody add the FBI and the DOJ to this image.  Trump wasn't supposed to win, but he won against all odds.

(https://news.unclesamsmisguidedchildren.com/wp-content/uploads/bfi_thumb/1a1a-n2tt3u0x6nsondxxtjjtdx1jvoyj6nal23f4h0qvtg.jpg)

Yep. 

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Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Dos Equis on February 02, 2018, 04:16:43 PM
Feb 2, 2018

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House on Friday declassified a partisan and bitterly disputed memo on the Russia investigation, clearing the way for House Republicans to release allegations of what they say is FBI misconduct.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-set-defy-fbi-allow-release-classified-memo-052013379--politics.html

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Outrageous abuse of power.  Now we know why Comey was meltdowning on social media.  He's right in the middle of this crap. 
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 02, 2018, 04:21:13 PM
explain further....oh wait you cant

no problem

here you go Trumptard

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=642460.0
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 02, 2018, 04:21:46 PM
Outrageous abuse of power.  Now we know why Comey was meltdowning on social media.  He's right in the middle of this crap. 

LOL - just for a laugh why don't you summarize it for us

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: mazrim on February 02, 2018, 05:29:24 PM
LOL - just for a laugh why don't you summarize it for us


Is it really that hard to understand or do you just lose focus when reading anything over three sentences?
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: loco on February 02, 2018, 05:47:20 PM
There's nothing really in it..it's a dud

Is that right?  Then I wonder why the Democrats, the FBI and the DOJ were so strongly opposed to declassifying it.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 02, 2018, 06:09:05 PM
Is that right?  Then I wonder why the Democrats, the FBI and the DOJ were so strongly opposed to declassifying it.
Vince struggles sometimes, one half of him wants to be democrat, the other half republican. He struggles.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 02, 2018, 07:51:07 PM
Yep. 

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It's a shame they didn't show his wife girlfriend.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 02, 2018, 08:00:12 PM
LOL

Kudos to Trumptard for unwittingly inventing the "Boomerang Hand Grenade" TM
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 02, 2018, 08:29:30 PM
LOL

Kudos to Trumptard for unwittingly inventing the "Boomerang Hand Grenade" TM

Strawman: “Squirrel“
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: lilhawk1 on February 02, 2018, 08:39:42 PM
It blew up in their faces, fuckin idiots.  Nunes admitted on Fox propaganda channel that he didn't even read the Fisa warrant evidence, but yet wrote a memo claiming it was biased.  What an idiot.  The Fisa warrant was based on Papadopoulos, not Page, which the dipshit actually was dumb enough to state in his own memo.  They already had the warrant before the Steele dossier, and it was reviewed and renewed twice, which requires evidence of progress in the investigation.  It was renewed once under the Trump administration.  Dumbest fuckers in the world.   The FBI and Mueller are just laughing at these dumbasses.  Amateur hour in full swing.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 02, 2018, 09:04:08 PM
How long have we been hearing about this memo damning the dems and they and the fbi have fought to keep it secret, it gets released and suddenly, inexplicably, the dems have a rebuttal memo that contradicts this one?
Nothing shady there  ::)
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 02, 2018, 10:38:25 PM
some on this board are obviously Russian antagonists..... I don't have to name names.. its obvious
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: mazrim on February 03, 2018, 04:16:09 AM
Is that right?  Then I wonder why the Democrats, the FBI and the DOJ were so strongly opposed to declassifying it.
That's their only alternative now. To say there is nothing in it now so that they can continue to keep people like lilhawk, Grasping, etc. dumb as they will only believe what is told to them by their fearless leaders. They don't handle logic well so coming to a different conclusion based on facts is not something that they are capable of.

As you stated, this memo was soooo bad that they should not release it. Now, there is nothing too it? Logic suggests something......
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 03, 2018, 10:48:20 AM
That's their only alternative now. To say there is nothing in it now so that they can continue to keep people like lilhawk, Grasping, etc. dumb as they will only believe what is told to them by their fearless leaders. They don't handle logic well so coming to a different conclusion based on facts is not something that they are capable of.

As you stated, this memo was soooo bad that they should not release it. Now, there is nothing too it? Logic suggests something......


Again... the Democrats opposed the memo because they believed it contained disputed facts and was misleading. They also know that many americans are meme people, they believe anything they read as long as it fits their preconceived beliefs. They believed it was unfair, misleading and contained inaccuracies and half truths. Now that the horse is out of the barn, they have done what they can to offset the damage by reminding people of the very same things they were saying prior to it's release 
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 03, 2018, 11:38:43 AM
It blew up in their faces, fuckin idiots.  Nunes admitted on Fox propaganda channel that he didn't even read the Fisa warrant evidence, but yet wrote a memo claiming it was biased.  What an idiot.  The Fisa warrant was based on Papadopoulos, not Page, which the dipshit actually was dumb enough to state in his own memo.  They already had the warrant before the Steele dossier, and it was reviewed and renewed twice, which requires evidence of progress in the investigation.  It was renewed once under the Trump administration.  Dumbest fuckers in the world.   The FBI and Mueller are just laughing at these dumbasses.  Amateur hour in full swing.

Jesus Christ you're so ill-informed it's mind-boggling...


"So, the agreement we made with the Department of Justice was to create a reading room and allow one member and two investigators to go over and review the documents," Nunes told Baier. "I thought the best person on our committee will be the chairman of the Oversight Committee, Trey Gowdy, who has a long career as a federal prosecutor, to go and do this. And then they over a series of meetings would come back with their notes and brief the rest of the committee members."

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2018, 01:40:38 PM
Jesus Christ you're so ill-informed it's mind-boggling...


"So, the agreement we made with the Department of Justice was to create a reading room and allow one member and two investigators to go over and review the documents," Nunes told Baier. "I thought the best person on our committee will be the chairman of the Oversight Committee, Trey Gowdy, who has a long career as a federal prosecutor, to go and do this. And then they over a series of meetings would come back with their notes and brief the rest of the committee members."



Glad you brought up Gowdy

Here is his latest tweet

I assume you're already seen this posted on Fox and Friends


Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 03, 2018, 02:36:26 PM
Glad you brought up Gowdy

Here is his latest tweet

I assume you're already seen this posted on Fox and Friends




Actually, a liberal friend of mine whom I’ve been debating with for the last three days posted this. My response to him is the same as it is to you.....so?
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2018, 02:54:51 PM
Actually, a liberal friend of mine whom I’ve been debating with for the last three days posted this. My response to him is the same as it is to you.....so?

LOL  @ you thinking you're "debating" anything with a response of "so"



Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Yamcha on February 03, 2018, 05:30:02 PM
>TFW you get caught cheating in an election two different ways, and still LOSE.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 03, 2018, 06:16:18 PM
LOL  @ you thinking you're "debating" anything with a response of "so"





Yeah, and just like you he had no logical response to it.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2018, 06:46:55 PM
Yeah, and just like you he had no logical response to it.

just like me he knows you're a moron

"so" is not debate response

It's what a 5 year old would say when trying to talk with an adult

Would you like to give it another try?

What do you think about Gowdy saying that "The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation."
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 03, 2018, 06:53:52 PM


What do you think about Gowdy saying that "The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation."
I think he's toeing the line since he's part of the bigger problem with the government. Also the Clintons/Mueller team probably has enough dirt on him to put him away for a long time.

Or maybe Killary emailed him a copy of his suicide note ???
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2018, 07:07:16 PM
I think he's toeing the line since he's part of the bigger problem with the government. Also the Clintons/Mueller team probably has enough dirt on him to put him away for a long time.

Or maybe Killary emailed him a copy of his suicide note ???

Clinton and Mueller are not a team

Mueller is a Republican for fucks sake (Trumptards seem to forget this)

Are you saying you think Mueller has dirt on Gowdy or Trump?

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 03, 2018, 07:14:26 PM
Clinton and Mueller are not a team




LMAO!
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2018, 07:20:21 PM
LMAO!

You Trumptards live in a fantasy land without a single tether to reality

Still waiting to hear what dirt you think Mueller has on Gowdy

This should be good for a laugh
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 03, 2018, 07:52:27 PM
You Trumptards live in a fantasy land without a single tether to reality

Still waiting to hear what dirt you think Mueller has on Gowdy

This should be good for a laugh

I have to laugh when one of these guys says something along the lines of "Agnostic is sooooo out there with his dislike of Trump" etc etc and they demonstrate time after time how they are the pot calling the kettle black... 
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 03, 2018, 08:56:15 PM
A simple google search will show you how mueller/clinton are tied together. Like mueller would ever do anything to harm his masters. Lol!!
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 03, 2018, 09:12:07 PM
A simple google search will show you how mueller/clinton are tied together. Like mueller would ever do anything to harm his masters. Lol!!

Couldn't have timed your comment any better. It's like we rehearsed this..
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2018, 09:17:40 PM
A simple google search will show you how mueller/clinton are tied together. Like mueller would ever do anything to harm his masters. Lol!!

what search should I do or even better can you just sum up the results of the search and your conclusion
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 04, 2018, 08:36:30 AM
what search should I do or even better can you just sum up the results of the search and your conclusion
Try muellers ties to clinton.
Although your blind hatred for Trump wouldn't allow what little common sense you have to see the facts.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 09:59:11 AM
>TFW you get caught cheating in an election two different ways, and still LOSE.


Ha ha ha
This is so funny & likely what is driving them mad with resentment.
They lost, Killary didn’t get the win FFS why don’t they just deal with it & move on.
The endless butt hurt whining & whinging  ::)
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 04, 2018, 10:20:07 AM
Rep. Trey Gowdy: FBI concealed Clinton role in Steele dossier
Washington Times ^ | 2/4/2018 | Tom Howell, Jr.
Posted on 2/4/2018, 2:58:52 PM by advance_copy

The House’s top investigator on Sunday said the FBI failed to notify a surveillance court it was relying on material funded by Democrats and the Hillary Clinton campaign when it asked to snoop on an adviser tied to the Trump campaign.

Rep. Trey Gowdy, South Carolina Republican and chairman of the House Oversight Committee, also said judges wouldn’t have authorized and repeatedly renewed a warrant to spy on the former Trump aide, Carter Page, if it hadn’t been for that very material, compiled by investigator Christopher Steele in a controversial dossier.

“They could have easily said it was the DNC and Hillary Clinton. That would have been really easy,” Mr. Gowdy told CBS’s Face the Nation, referring to footnotes in the agents’ request to the court. “It took longer to explain it the way they did, than if they just come right out and said, ‘Hillary Clinton for America and DNC paid for it.’ But they didn’t do that.”

Mr. Gowdy was involved in drafting a four-page memo by the House Intelligence Committee that details the FBI’s decision to rely in part on Clinton-backed material to spy on Mr. Page in October 2016. It also explores the role of top Justice Department officials in renewing those snooping powers.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 04, 2018, 12:22:41 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2018, 12:33:43 PM
^^^^^^^
Nothing wrong with any of that
Obama / Killary/ FBI / DoJ
Are all very Honest Decent Law abiding & Have Americans best interests at heart.  ::)

How could we cast aspersions on them they are Totally beyond Reproach  ::)

Oh & the earth is flat & I have a bridge for sale..
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 04, 2018, 12:40:38 PM
???

1. on this list is a lie hence everything that follows is a misrepresentation.... at best

honestly not sure how you can believe the first thing on your list given all the information available

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 04, 2018, 12:47:59 PM
1. on this list is a lie hence everything that follows is a misrepresentation.... at best

honestly not sure how you can believe the first thing on your list given all the information available


Lmao! It amazes me people like you exist.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 04, 2018, 12:50:07 PM
Lmao! It amazes me people like you exist.

So in your mind Clinton and the DNC hired Steele and said please create a dossier of false information for us to use against Trump

Is that essentially what you believe?
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 04, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
That is what is being alleged...

The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

Let me guess, you disagree.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 04, 2018, 01:01:27 PM
That is what is being alleged...

The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.

Let me guess, you disagree.

something is missing in that info you cut and pasted

It's pretty blatant

Do you know what it is?

btw - when you cut and paste something you should post a link so we know where you got it
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Slapper on February 04, 2018, 01:19:28 PM
To me, if you analyze the sequence of events since Comey's dismissal, again, TO ME, it seems as though Trump's got this case by the balls. Firstly, one of the candidates is found out to have given priority treatment by the media, has been found to sponsor lying to a US court /committee in order to get other people investigated AND almost got a US president (Obama) in trouble for (what looks to be) misuse of executive power when they figured all was about to be lost.

The deeper this rabbit hole gets, the tighter the grip will get around the democrats.  

It's a no-win situation for any of the parties AND the Nation.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Pray_4_War on February 04, 2018, 02:08:05 PM
(https://i.redd.it/fe12vrpr4lwx.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 04, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
Lmao! It amazes me people like you exist.


was just thinking the same. your list was either satire or you really do need help
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 04, 2018, 02:46:11 PM
something is missing in that info you cut and pasted

It's pretty blatant

Do you know what it is?

btw - when you cut and paste something you should post a link so we know where you got it
What's missing? That's a direct cut/paste of #1 from The Memo, unless I missed a part.


was just thinking the same. your list was either satire or you really do need help
Ok, what part do you disagree with?
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 04, 2018, 03:44:17 PM
What's missing? That's a direct cut/paste of #1 from The Memo, unless I missed a part.
Ok, what part do you disagree with?

post the link where you got the cut and paste

really can't believe you don't know the part you missed

Go back and read #1 again and think really hard and see if you can figure it out

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 04, 2018, 03:51:04 PM
post the link where you got the cut and paste

really can't believe you don't know the part you missed

Go back and read #1 again and think really hard and see if you can figure it out


Quite obvious you haven't read the memo. Why don't you go read it, then we can discuss it.



https://www.scribd.com/document/370599093/FISA-memo-Full-text
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 04, 2018, 04:37:17 PM
Quite obvious you haven't read the memo. Why don't you go read it, then we can discuss it.



https://www.scribd.com/document/370599093/FISA-memo-Full-text

I searched the document and couldn't find the words "concoct fake dossier"

Maybe you can read it again and let me know if you can find it

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 04, 2018, 05:01:32 PM
I searched the document and couldn't find the words "concoct fake dossier"

Maybe you can read it again and let me know if you can find it


Now you're just nitpicking words to avoid the truth.

con·coct

kənˈkäkt/

verb

make (a dish or meal) by combining various ingredients.

"they concoct relish from corn that is so naturally sweet no extra sugar is needed"

synonyms:prepare, make, assemble; More

create or devise (said especially of a story or plan).

"they concocted a preposterous but entertaining story"

synonyms:make up, dream up, fabricate, invent, trump up; More


The bolded part pertains to the Steele "dossier"
I don't feel like you're smart enough to have these conversations with, you seem to struggle with the simplest of facts.

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 04, 2018, 05:16:12 PM
Now you're just nitpicking words to avoid the truth.

con·coct

kənˈkäkt/

verb

make (a dish or meal) by combining various ingredients.

"they concoct relish from corn that is so naturally sweet no extra sugar is needed"

synonyms:prepare, make, assemble; More

create or devise (said especially of a story or plan).

"they concocted a preposterous but entertaining story"

synonyms:make up, dream up, fabricate, invent, trump up; More


The bolded part pertains to the Steele "dossier"
I don't feel like you're smart enough to have these conversations with, you seem to struggle with the simplest of facts.



LOL @ nitpicking

your #1 claim is Hillary and the DNC hired a foreign spy to CONCOCT A FAKE DOSSIER

IF you can't find those exact words then just find the section where Nunes says Clinton and the DNC hired Steele (the foreign spy) to fabricate information about Trump

Again this is YOUR #1 PREMISE....remember?
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 04, 2018, 05:29:03 PM
LOL @ nitpicking

your #1 claim is Hillary and the DNC hired a foreign spy to CONCOCT A FAKE DOSSIER

IF you can't find those exact words then just find the section where Nunes says Clinton and the DNC hired Steele (the foreign spy) to fabricate information about Trump

Again this is YOUR #1 PREMISE....remember?
If you're incapable of reading the memo linked above, you should find a caretaker to read and explain it to you.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 04, 2018, 05:42:55 PM
If you're incapable of reading the memo linked above, you should find a caretaker to read and explain it to you.


I read it and can't find any verbiage supporting YOUR #1 PREMISE

Give it another read and let me know if you can find it
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Dos Equis on February 05, 2018, 04:13:39 PM
Good.  I hope the president approves the release.  Would like to read it.  I'd also like the see the FISA application itself. 

Intelligence Committee approves release of Dems’ rebuttal to FISA memo
Alex Pappas By Alex Pappas   | Fox News

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday approved the release of the Democratic rebuttal to the highly-publicized GOP memo that alleges government surveillance abuse during the 2016 campaign.

"We think this will help inform the public of the many distortions and inaccuracies in the majority memo," California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the panel, told reporters.

The vote was unanimous, he said.

Schiff said Democrats have given the DOJ and the FBI a copy of their counter-memo and have asked them to tell them what redactions should be made for national security reasons.

On Friday, Republicans on the Intelligence Committee released the memo from Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., which claimed the FBI and DOJ would not have sought surveillance warrants to spy on onetime Trump campaign adviser Carter Page without the infamous, Democrat-funded anti-Trump dossier.

Panel weighs in.
The White House responded by saying the memo “raises serious concerns about the integrity of decisions made at the highest levels of the Department of Justice and the FBI to use the government’s most intrusive surveillance tools against American citizens.”

President Trump – as he did for the original GOP memo – has several days to consider whether he should block the release for national security reasons.

The Nunes memo has fueled accusations from Republicans of bias against Trump by top FBI and Justice Department officials.

Schiff said Monday said Democrats want to make sure the White House "does not redact our memo for political purposes."

Sarah Sanders, the White House press secretary, suggested Friday the president would be open to releasing the counter-memo.

“The administration stands ready to work with Congress to accommodate oversight requests consistent with applicable standards, including the need to protect intelligence sources and methods,” Sanders said of the Democratic memo.

"Hey, we caught ‘em. Oh its so fun. We’re like the great sleuth."
- President Trump
TRUMP: 'DID WE CATCH THEM IN THE ACT OR WHAT?'

Schiff -- referencing how Nunes has said the GOP memo was “phase one” of the process to release information on government surveillance abuses -- argued the Democratic memo is “phase two.”

Earlier Monday, during a speech in Ohio, the president celebrated the release of the GOP memo.

“Oh, but did we catch them in the act or what,” the president said. “You know what I’m talking [about]. Oh, did we catch them in the act!”

He added: “They are very embarrassed. They never thought that they were going to get caught. We caught ‘em. Hey, we caught ‘em. Oh its so fun. We’re like the great sleuth.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/05/intelligence-committee-approves-release-dems-rebuttal-to-fisa-memo.html

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 05, 2018, 04:38:57 PM
Good.  I hope the president approves the release.  Would like to read it.  I'd also like the see the FISA application itself. 

Intelligence Committee approves release of Dems’ rebuttal to FISA memo
Alex Pappas By Alex Pappas   | Fox News

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday approved the release of the Democratic rebuttal to the highly-publicized GOP memo that alleges government surveillance abuse during the 2016 campaign.

"We think this will help inform the public of the many distortions and inaccuracies in the majority memo," California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the panel, told reporters.

The vote was unanimous, he said.

Schiff said Democrats have given the DOJ and the FBI a copy of their counter-memo and have asked them to tell them what redactions should be made for national security reasons.

On Friday, Republicans on the Intelligence Committee released the memo from Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., which claimed the FBI and DOJ would not have sought surveillance warrants to spy on onetime Trump campaign adviser Carter Page without the infamous, Democrat-funded anti-Trump dossier.

Panel weighs in.
The White House responded by saying the memo “raises serious concerns about the integrity of decisions made at the highest levels of the Department of Justice and the FBI to use the government’s most intrusive surveillance tools against American citizens.”

President Trump – as he did for the original GOP memo – has several days to consider whether he should block the release for national security reasons.

The Nunes memo has fueled accusations from Republicans of bias against Trump by top FBI and Justice Department officials.

Schiff said Monday said Democrats want to make sure the White House "does not redact our memo for political purposes."

Sarah Sanders, the White House press secretary, suggested Friday the president would be open to releasing the counter-memo.

“The administration stands ready to work with Congress to accommodate oversight requests consistent with applicable standards, including the need to protect intelligence sources and methods,” Sanders said of the Democratic memo.

"Hey, we caught ‘em. Oh its so fun. We’re like the great sleuth."
- President Trump
TRUMP: 'DID WE CATCH THEM IN THE ACT OR WHAT?'

Schiff -- referencing how Nunes has said the GOP memo was “phase one” of the process to release information on government surveillance abuses -- argued the Democratic memo is “phase two.”

Earlier Monday, during a speech in Ohio, the president celebrated the release of the GOP memo.

“Oh, but did we catch them in the act or what,” the president said. “You know what I’m talking [about]. Oh, did we catch them in the act!”

He added: “They are very embarrassed. They never thought that they were going to get caught. We caught ‘em. Hey, we caught ‘em. Oh its so fun. We’re like the great sleuth.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/05/intelligence-committee-approves-release-dems-rebuttal-to-fisa-memo.html



LOL

Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 10, 2018, 03:32:03 PM
Gee, what a surprise

Trumptard won't release the Dems memo

Apparently now he claims to suddenly care what the FBI and Justice Department think

Odd, since they both objected to the Nunes memo and he still released it anyway

I wonder what the difference could be this time?

It's a real mystery
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 10, 2018, 04:29:18 PM
Gee, what a surprise

Trumptard won't release the Dems memo

Apparently now he claims to suddenly care what the FBI and Justice Department think

Odd, since they both objected to the Nunes memo and he still released it anyway

I wonder what the difference could be this time?

It's a real mystery
It's probably written in crayon and on the back of a paper napkin. Dems had no memo until the nunes memo was released. ::)
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 10, 2018, 04:38:04 PM
It's probably written in crayon and on the back of a paper napkin. Dems had no memo until the nunes memo was released. ::)

wrong as usual Trumptard

The Dem memo existed before Trump released the Nunes memo

Honestly, not sure how you can't know that
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 10, 2018, 04:39:00 PM
wrong as usual Trumptard

The Dem memo existed before Trump released the Nunes memo

Honestly, not sure how you can't know that
So?
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Straw Man on February 10, 2018, 05:00:06 PM
So?


so just wondering how you can be so uninformed
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: mazrim on February 10, 2018, 07:46:28 PM
Trump sent the first Republican version back to be changed a bit and it had to be voted on again. Why do Democrats not expect the same treatment?

They probably purposefully put stuff in that they knew wouldn't pass muster just for an excuse to put out another headline.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 10, 2018, 08:30:16 PM


so just wondering how you can be so uninformed
I don't watch Clinton News Network.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 10, 2018, 09:04:55 PM
Trump sent the first Republican version back to be changed a bit and it had to be voted on again. Why do Democrats not expect the same treatment?

They probably purposefully put stuff in that they knew wouldn't pass muster just for an excuse to put out another headline.

I think you're wrong on that.. but it doesn't matter
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 10, 2018, 09:17:11 PM
I think you're wrong on that.. but it doesn't matter

....because it's one big conspiracy against the Dems and Clinton, right? lol
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: mazrim on February 11, 2018, 05:22:34 AM
I think you're wrong on that.. but it doesn't matter
Which part? The part about them wanting to be treated differently then the Republican version or the other part? Either way is a joke on their part. If the latter it does help them to deceive their followers once again.

Their memo is also over twice as long.

Crazy the headline differences "Trump to pass the Reupublican memo!!" .....after changes/revote.

Vs "Trump blocks Democratic Memo!!"....but is reporting he will release it with changes/revote.

Same thing essentially but different wording. Up to them to get it up to par.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 11, 2018, 03:03:42 PM
Which part? The part about them wanting to be treated differently then the Republican version or the other part? Either way is a joke on their part. If the latter it does help them to deceive their followers once again.

Their memo is also over twice as long.

Crazy the headline differences "Trump to pass the Reupublican memo!!" .....after changes/revote.

Vs "Trump blocks Democratic Memo!!"....but is reporting he will release it with changes/revote.

Same thing essentially but different wording. Up to them to get it up to par.

Differences...

Trump was ready to release the memo before he saw it. FBI and CIA advised him NOT to release it, he did anyway,.

Suddenly he is concerned now since it is the Democrats memo... 
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 11, 2018, 05:22:24 PM
Differences...

Trump was ready to release the memo before he saw it. FBI and CIA advised him NOT to release it, he did anyway,.

Suddenly he is concerned now since it is the Democrats memo... 
Of course they did, it implicated they were involved in setting up this bullshit Russia story.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 11, 2018, 08:07:07 PM
Of course they did, it implicated they were involved in setting up this bullshit Russia story.

Of course...  ::)
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: chaos on February 11, 2018, 09:18:16 PM
Of course.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: mazrim on February 12, 2018, 08:04:51 AM
Differences...

Trump was ready to release the memo before he saw it. FBI and CIA advised him NOT to release it, he did anyway,.

Suddenly he is concerned now since it is the Democrats memo... 
You disputed nothing in my post nor shown a reason why they should be treated differently then the Republicans. Trump didn't release it immediately. You can say he was "ready" to all you want, Mr. Schumer. Fact is it was sent back and revoted on as he has now done with the Democratic version. Now, go back and do your job so it can be released. He has also said he is ready to release the democratic version if it is done properly.

Republican version was released and no national security issues whatsoever were revealed so that was a made up point to begin with. Also, it was then called a "guy" by your people after being so scared/concerned to begin with. Can't have it both ways.

Suddenly, because it is a democratic memo you believe that rules should not apply. That is the norm for the party I guess. Nothing in my post was refuted except by dancing around the issue again. Couldn't even answer which part you disagreed with and a legitimate reason why as the reason you presented is invalid due to what actually happened. Dance, dance, dance.
Title: Re: Breaking News: President Trump declassifies secret GOP memo on Russia probe
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 12, 2018, 10:14:49 AM
After the House Intelligence Committee voted this week to release a Democratic rebuttal to the Nunes memo, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders assured us that the White House would be evenhanded. “As stated many times,” Sanders said, “the administration will follow the same process and procedure with this memorandum from the minority as it did last week, when it received the memorandum from the majority.”

That is simply not what happened.

The White House announced Friday night that it would not immediately approve the release of the Democratic memo. It instead instructed Democrats to work with the Justice Department to adjust the memo so that it could be released publicly.
It's entirely possible this won't make a huge difference in the memo's content and impact. But let's be clear: This is not how the White House treated the Nunes memo.

When it was confronted with a decision about whether to release that memo, it did so over the objections of the FBI. The FBI publicly objected to the Nunes memo's release, suggesting the document left out key facts and was misleading. “As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about the material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy,” the FBI said in an extraordinary public rebuke.

And even before all of that — and before he had even reviewed the memo — Trump and the White House made clear they would release the GOP memo. Trump told a Republican lawmaker after his State of the Union address Jan. 30 that he would "100 percent” release the memo.
In this case, by contrast, the White House wasn't nearly so eager to commit to a memo's release and is now suggesting it is bowing to concerns from the very same federal law enforcement entities whose objections it disregarded last time. It will argue that it is just handling classified information with care, but it did not demonstrate that level of care last week when it forced through the Nunes memo.
That memo sought to argue that law enforcement had abused its surveillance capabilities in the monitoring of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. It argued that the application to monitor Page via a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant misleadingly failed to disclose that evidence used from the Steele dossier had been paid for by Democrats.

 
The Nunes memo has been widely criticized, and Democrats have argued that a key claim — that then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe said the Steele dossier was vital to the FISA application — simply isn't true. (The memo doesn't directly quote McCabe's comments, which came in a closed-door Intelligence Committee hearing but instead paraphrases him.) The memo also seemed to undermine its own claims by pointing out that the Russia investigation began months before the Steele dossier was used in the FISA application. Despite this, some Republicans have suggested that the Steele dossier was a predicate for the investigation — a suggestion aimed at undermining the broader Russia probe that is currently imperiling the White House.
Having said all of this, could it simply be that the Democratic memo contains more sensitive classified information than the Nunes memo did? Sure. (Although it bears noting that Intelligence Committee Republicans did unanimously vote for its release.) Is it possible there will be only minor changes? Sure. And it would sure seem that the Justice Department would want to make certain that the Democratic memo still does a good job countering some key claims from the Nunes memo, given how federal law enforcement's reputation is on the line.
But with all of this happening behind closed doors, we simply don't know.

What we do know is that the White House didn't treat these memos the same, as it promised it would.