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Title: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Wiggs on February 15, 2018, 05:45:05 AM
I've never seen such a cringeworthy show. Here you have Shawn Ray, one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time. We'll spoken, knowledgeable in all things bodybuilding teamed up with some of the dumbest, moronic, foul mouthed idiots the internet has to offer. Cursing multiple times in every sentence, can't clearly articulate their thoughts and sound like they barely made it (and some cases didn't make it) through grade school.

Are you kidding me? This is a disservice to Shawn, how the hell can he tolerate these numb nuts, the host included. I try to listen but the host and whatever foreskin they bring on ruins it.

Get a new host! Get him new partners! Get people that know bodybuilding! Hell, I can do it with Shawn and itd be an Internet sensation GUARENTEED!

He deserves better than this! Btw, I love his strong and correct opinions on Classic Physique and the state of the open category. He was right in 96 and he's still right.

P.S. Still an asshole but one love anyway.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Parker on February 15, 2018, 05:53:33 AM
I've never seen such a cringeworthy show. Here you have Shawn Ray, one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time. We'll spoken, knowledgeable in all things bodybuilding teamed up with some of the dumbest, moronic, foul mouthed idiots the Internet has to offer. Cursing multiple times in every sentence, can't clearly articulate their thoughts and sounds like they barely made it and some cases didn't make it through grade school.

Are you kidding me? This is a disservice to Shawn, how the hell can he tolerate these numb nuts. The host included. I try to listen but the host and whatever foreskin they bring on ruins it.

Get a new host! Get him new partners! Get people that know bodybuilding! Hell, I can do with Shawn and itd be an Internet sensation GUARENTEED!

He deserves better than this! Btw, I love his strong and correct opinions on Classic Physique and the state of the open category. He was right in 96 and he's still right.

P.S. Still an asshole.
I agree. Ok. Shawn Ray, Dorian, Kevin, Phil Heath, Kai Green (separated from Phil), Brandon Martyn, and Dave Palumbo. Those could be your hosts.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: OlympiaGym on February 15, 2018, 05:55:31 AM
Unlikely that you would be a "sensation" at anything. Nothing in your past shows a predisposition to success. That being said, you still seem like a good guy.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Wiggs on February 15, 2018, 06:03:23 AM
Unlikely that you would be a "sensation" at anything. Nothing in your past shows a predisposition to success. That being said, you still seem like a good guy.

Lolol. You sound like you're mad. It's ok though you don't know me.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: seCrawler on February 15, 2018, 07:31:01 AM
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Shawn Ray on February 15, 2018, 01:16:20 PM
Last episode, not sure where all the cursing is?

Try watching more than one episode. We try to not sensor our Guests so they can speak freely and be themselves. If cursing is part of the way they communicate then so be it.
I suggest you stay away from R-Rated Feature Films, Rap Music and Night Clubs I’d Swear words cause you grief.

Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Nether Animal on February 15, 2018, 01:18:51 PM
The glaring lack of professionalism in the bodybuilding industry is more entertaining than the "sport" itself, nowadays.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: calfzilla on February 15, 2018, 01:33:01 PM
The glaring lack of professionalism in the bodybuilding industry is more entertaining than the "sport" itself, nowadays.

Maybe that's why a guy like Big Lenny is more likable and popular than Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: ratherbebig on February 15, 2018, 01:34:01 PM
what if everytime they curse there's a BLEEP sound

and what if that BLEEP sound turns out the most interesting thing of the show

Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Wiggs on February 15, 2018, 03:06:22 PM
Last episode, not sure where all the cursing is?

Try watching more than one episode. We try to not sensor our Guests so they can speak freely and be themselves. If cursing is part of the way they communicate then so be it.
I suggest you stay away from R-Rated Feature Films, Rap Music and Night Clubs I’d Swear words cause you grief.



Horrible reasoning. Talk shows traditionally aren't littered with foul language and incoherent morons...Unless that's the selling point. That's not the selling point on this show. Read the comment section and youll see many that echo my opinion.  R-Rated feature films, rap and night clubs, I excpect that. Your forum I dont. And my sample size is more than one show. Joe Weider would not be proud of this garbage. You know it and I know it. Stay classy and don't defend gutter behavior...asshole
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 15, 2018, 05:28:35 PM
Wiggs, how's Florida?
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: be back on February 16, 2018, 12:56:30 AM
Horrible reasoning. Talk shows traditionally aren't littered with foul language and incoherent morons...Unless that's the selling point. That's not the selling point on this show. Read the comment section and youll see many that echo my opinion.  R-Rated feature films, rap and night clubs, I excpect that. Your forum I dont. And my sample size is more than one show. Joe Weider would not be proud of this garbage. You know it and I know it. Stay classy and don't defend gutter behavior...asshole

parting shot of peace.... ;D
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Wiggs on February 16, 2018, 01:34:26 AM
Wiggs, how's Florida?

Love it!
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Parker on February 16, 2018, 01:44:57 AM
Maybe that's why a guy like Big Lenny is more exploitable and popular than Mr. Olympia.
fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: falco on February 16, 2018, 06:16:24 AM
The glaring lack of professionalism in the bodybuilding industry is more entertaining than the "sport" itself, nowadays.

Was there ever professionalism?
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Mothballs on February 16, 2018, 06:18:29 AM
Spot on review, Wiggsly!
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on February 16, 2018, 05:06:49 PM
Last episode, not sure where all the cursing is?

Try watching more than one episode. We try to not sensor our Guests so they can speak freely and be themselves. If cursing is part of the way they communicate then so be it.
I suggest you stay away from R-Rated Feature Films, Rap Music and Night Clubs I’d Swear words cause you grief.


youre a fat old fossil
No one even knows who you are
Most thought u blew your brains out in the late 90s
Is your fat daughter still trying to be a singer?
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: TheShape. on February 17, 2018, 03:09:46 AM
parting shot of peace.... ;D
"Just stop swearing!...you fucking son of a bitch!"  ;D
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Wiggs on February 17, 2018, 04:44:54 AM
"Just stop swearing!...you fucking son of a bitch!"  ;D

Lol. This is Getbig, we do that here.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: seCrawler on February 17, 2018, 04:47:43 AM
youre a fat old fossil
No one even knows who you are
Most thought u blew your brains out in the late 90s
Is your fat daughter still trying to be a singer?

No need to dis the kid b/c dad is a bit of a douche like you.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Al Doggity on February 17, 2018, 11:19:31 AM
The swearing thing...  :-\ it is what it is. I didn't notice all that much swearing, but more mainstream outlets that censor language do it because they have multiple demos they have to appeal to, they have fcc regulations they have to consider,etc. Censoring language on an internet talkshow about gym culture seems arbitrary.

Most of the other stuff in OP's post, I don't disagree with, but the show has been improving.  Some of it aligns with stuff I wrote in my review a few weeks back, and it could be a coincidence, but I noticed that some changes to the show happened after I posted it. I don't know if it was because of what I wrote on here, though, because I would guess most people have the same criticisms revolving around how unprofessional it seems. I have checked out all of the episodes, but I have yet to make it through an entire one.

Shawn, if you're reading this, I did notice that the girl did a recent diatribe about how people say she's unprofessional and she's not going to change because it's not who she is. You should let her know that it doesn't have anything to do with being "fake" , but her lack of professionalism makes the show hard to watch and harder to follow. 
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Al Doggity on February 17, 2018, 11:20:52 AM

Is your fat daughter still trying to be a singer?


Dirtbag move. I'm sure most of the losers on here will think it's amazing and applaud your mentally-unbalanced ass, though.  :-\
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: 6 Reps on February 17, 2018, 11:47:06 AM
The YouTube channel I like, and I think one of the best on bodybuilding, is Nick's Strength and Power.  And it has a lot more subscribers than Generation Iron:  292,000 versus 169,000.

www.youtube.com/user/TheDankNick/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDankNick/videos)

Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Wiggs on February 17, 2018, 12:11:37 PM
The YouTube channel I like, and I think one of the best on bodybuilding, is Nick's Strength and Power.  And it has a lot more subscribers than Generation Iron:  292,000 versus 169,000.

www.youtube.com/user/TheDankNick/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDankNick/videos)



I've been on Nick's Strength and Power since he had a couple thousand people. He's doing a great job. I watch all his videos. Impressive for such a young guy especially.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: calfzilla on February 17, 2018, 12:14:28 PM
I've been on Nick's Strength and Power since he had a couple thousand people. He's doing a great job. I watch all his videos. Impressive for such a young guy especially.

He's ok but I had to stop watching when he said he thinks Hugh Jackman was natural in Wolverine.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Wiggs on February 17, 2018, 12:30:27 PM
To go back on the original subject, theres no justifable reason for the unprofessionalism. You see Greg Valentino. That's his shtick. This is how we know him. I can tolerate him because I know what I'm getting. May seem hypocritical but really it's not. You don't see Greg and Shawn doing a show together because it doesn't work. Shawn goes with guys like Flex, Dan Solomon, Bob Chick etc. Oil and water don't mix and the fans feel the same way. Furthermore, why is this little girl hosting the show? From my perspective she brings nothing of value to it. Shawn is better off by himself if these are the options. Furthermore the guests and the hosts to put it plainly "don't know their shit." It makes it very awkward when teamed up with someone that does, Shawn in this case.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Go 4 It on February 17, 2018, 12:50:34 PM
They'd be better off just doing a show with Shawn, the dynamic is terrible, the chick is hot but thats it, it's cringe worthy hearing her talk about "prep" or being pissed that the prize money for women is low. Shawn is a legend and also very knowlegable about the sport, the problem is that from what it seems like most people in the industry don't get along with him, so doing a "buddy" show with another pro probably wouldn't work either.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Ted SuperSet on February 17, 2018, 12:58:01 PM
youre a fat old fossil
No one even knows who you are
Most thought u blew your brains out in the late 90s
Is your fat daughter still trying to be a singer?

Weak bro weak!
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Al Doggity on February 17, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
They'd be better off just doing a show with Shawn, the dynamic is terrible, the chick is hot but thats it, it's cringe worthy hearing her talk about "prep" or being pissed that the prize money for women is low. Shawn is a legend and also very knowlegable about the sport, the problem is that from what it seems like most people in the industry don't get along with him, so doing a "buddy" show with another pro probably wouldn't work either.

The first few episodes of the show were a blatant copy of another internet show called "Everyday Struggle" that was extremely popular last year. The  format, the look and even the descriptions of the hosts were basically a carbon copy. The appeal of that show was that one host (the Shawn role) was supposed to be the rabble rouser while the other two were the voices of reason. The biggest problem was that shawn was coming off as the voice of reason during most of the segments and the others were just coming off as unprepared, unprofessional and underqualified to weigh in.

I don't think the show would be better with just Shawn and I don't even think the girl is straight up terrible, but I do think people underestimate how much prep goes into creating watchable content. They get made fun of, but every youtuber who is successful approaches their videos with a notable level of professionalism. The idea of professionalism in broadcasting isn't just to be mindlessly uptight, a big part of it is conveying all of the information you want to get across in a way that is clear for your audience. It's a skill informed by preparation, it's not something you're  just good at because you're photogenic.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Nether Animal on February 17, 2018, 02:20:01 PM
I've been on Nick's Strength and Power since he had a couple thousand people. He's doing a great job. I watch all his videos. Impressive for such a young guy especially.

He's like a less embarrassing Luimarco. Not bad but he tends to just make videos about anything and everything and really doesn't know all that much. But people like it so cool.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Nether Animal on February 17, 2018, 02:23:00 PM
...the chick is hot but thats it

That's the point. It's Z-grade fishing for views. That's oftentimes the only reason girls are included at all. I'm not subscribed but I was scrolling through Generation Iron's vids a while back and there were some vid thumbnails with a girl literally spreading her asscheeks apart. Of course I clicked on it and nothing like that happened in the vid, surprised YT allowed it.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: falco on February 19, 2018, 05:30:52 AM
They'd be better off just doing a show with Shawn, the dynamic is terrible, the chick is hot but thats it, it's cringe worthy hearing her talk about "prep" or being pissed that the prize money for women is low. Shawn is a legend and also very knowlegable about the sport, the problem is that from what it seems like most people in the industry don't get along with him, so doing a "buddy" show with another pro probably wouldn't work either.

You are into women now? Christ man, you fuck everything that walks!  :o
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: be back on February 19, 2018, 02:28:14 PM
You are into women now? Christ man, you fuck everything that walks!  :o

over compensation of peace...
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: doggler on February 20, 2018, 05:56:06 PM
I've been on Nick's Strength and Power since he had a couple thousand people. He's doing a great job. I watch all his videos. Impressive for such a young guy especially.

Whats so impressive about his vids ? He makes a 3 min vid about a bodybuilder where he  just reads stuff  from wikipedia.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: Mayday on February 20, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
swearing is fine in expressive terms but for example Rich Piana (RIP) it started to bug me as swearing became his filler words.

filler words were 'ummm' which became the recent 'like' but become 'fuckn' for some types.

i dont like listening to 'fuckn' every 3rd word the same as i dont like listening to 'ummm'or 'like'every 3rd word. its not that its offensive but comes across uneducated.

If they want to be a celebrity, fine, learn to communicate properly as nobody wants to follow someone who sounds dumb.
Title: Re: Shawn Ray - The Breakdown - Generation Iron
Post by: youandme on February 20, 2018, 09:02:36 PM
Cursing is Valentino's thing, I agree. Didn't Shawn co-host as a commentator for ESPN bodybuilding shows? I can't remember. He talks clearly and mixes up his past prep with other experiences. He just needs his own show, he's not afraid to speak with his mind which is what Bob won't do, Priest has been doing it for years, and that's what helped Piana as well.