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Next step will be to see if the anyone in the Trump campaign, colluded, aided or abetted.
Rick Gates appears to be a cooperating witness and he continued to work for the Trump campaign after Mannefort left
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God Bless Robert Mueller.
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This will surely be the end of Trump! Tons of evidence of collusion in these indictments!
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Next step will be to see if the anyone in the Trump campaign, colluded, aided or abetted.
Rick Gates appears to be a cooperating witness and he continued to work for the Trump campaign after Mannefort left
FAIL
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/here-are-some-of-the-most-important-quotes-from-muellers-indictment-of-russians.html
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/us-stocks-strong-week-volatility-rates.html
No know american involvement - case over.
Good bye libs
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This will surely be the end of Trump! Tons of evidence of collusion in these indictments!
No one said these indictments included evidence of collusion dipshit.
Notice that no one mentioned that Mueller is now done with his investigation.
I wonder how this being reported over at Faux News. I assume some along the lines of Mueller indicts 13 witches for witchcraft in his totally fake witch hunt
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/us-stocks-strong-week-volatility-rates.html
No know american involvement - case over.
Good bye libs
Where did they say "case over" ?
I watched Rosensteins press conference.
Did I miss that part?
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No one said these indictments included evidence of collusion dipshit.
Notice that no one mentioned that Mueller is now done with his investigation.
I wonder how this being reported over at Faux News. I assume some along the lines of Mueller indicts 13 witches for witchcraft in his totally fake witch hunt
In what way has the Trump campaign colluded with Russians to influence the 2016 election? There has to be some sorta evidence. Should be easy for you to post.
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No one said these indictments included evidence of collusion dipshit.
Notice that no one mentioned that Mueller is now done with his investigation.
I wonder how this being reported over at Faux News. I assume some along the lines of Mueller indicts 13 witches for witchcraft in his totally fake witch hunt
so if they arrested the russians they found involved in this, and they did not find any american involvement - where and how do you still believe or claim Trump was involved or colluded w these people?
Face it - case is over. Move on.
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Next step will be to see if the anyone in the Trump campaign, colluded, aided or abetted.
Rick Gates appears to be a cooperating witness and he continued to work for the Trump campaign after Mannefort left
lets say your delusion is correct, collusion to say bad things about crooked clinton is not a crime!
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You seriously need to read/think before getting all excited about a headline.
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no appreciation for Mueller indicting those Russians?
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In what way has the Trump campaign colluded with Russians to influence the 2016 election? There has to be some sorta evidence. Should be easy for you to post.
LOL - Why are Trumptards so fucking stupid (I know dumb question given that you're all certified morons)
No one will know what evidence Mueller has UNTIL/IF the day indictments are announced
As king Trumptard is fond of saying "everyone knows that"
I'm not sure if it's hilarious or pathetic that you don't know this
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so if they arrested the russians they found involved in this, and they did not find any american involvement - where and how do you still believe or claim Trump was involved or colluded w these people?
Face it - case is over. Move on.
LOL - you wish it was case over
They just likely flipped Rick Gates this week and Bannon spent a long time talking with Mueller this week
And we have no idea what else is going on
This is just getting started
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Is "collusion" a crime ???
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lets say your delusion is correct, collusion to say bad things about crooked clinton is not a crime!
LOL - surprised it took someone this long to bring up Hillary
Trumptards favorite excuse and deflection
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LOL - Why are Trumptards so fucking stupid (I know dumb question given that you're all certified morons)
No one will know what evidence Mueller has UNTIL/IF the day indictments are announced
As king Trumptard is fond of saying "everyone knows that"
I'm not sure if it's hilarious or pathetic that you don't know this
Because it wouldn't leak to the press like almost everything else has.... ::)
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You seriously need to read/think before getting all excited about a headline.
dude - I've said from Day 1 that I have no idea if anyone if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia
We'll find out when we find out (When/IF Mueller indicts)
I do believe they will find Trump was involved with money-laundering (I've said this many times and long before Bannon said it)
I also believe there is evidence of obstruction by Trump
BTW - this announcement today is just proof of what we already know and what all of our intelligence agencies have said, which is that Russia was involved in trying to influence the outcome of our election
That's all we know so far and we already pretty much knew that
Whoever these 13 people are they are likely to never see the inside of a courtroom unless for some reason Russia decides to hand them over...which obviously isn't very likely
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Is "collusion" a crime ???
you mean colluding with a foreign government to influence the election
nope, from what I understand that is not a crime
what is more likely is conspiracy to defraud the United States by interfering with our election
BTW - we don't know what else Mueller is looking at. Obstruction of Justice is a crime as is money laundering, lying to the FBI, etc.. Plenty of potential crimes on the menu for the Trump Crime Family
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/27249/new-mueller-indictment-against-russians-undercuts-ben-shapiro?amp&__twitter_impression=true
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Because it wouldn't leak to the press like almost everything else has.... ::)
did any of the indictments leak to the press before they were announced?
fucking Trumptard ::)
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did any of the indictments leak to the press before they were announced?
fucking Trumptard ::)
No. They were released on a Friday afternoon of a three day weekend.
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such a waste of our tax dollars trying to go after Trump...
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dude - I've said from Day 1 that I have no idea if anyone if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia
We'll find out when we find out (When/IF Mueller indicts)
I do believe they will find Trump was involved with money-laundering (I've said this many times and long before Bannon said it)
I also believe there is evidence of obstruction by Trump
BTW - this announcement today is just proof of what we already know and what all of our intelligence agencies have said, which is that Russia was involved in trying to influence the outcome of our election
That's all we know so far and we already pretty much knew that
Whoever these 13 people are they are likely to never see the inside of a courtroom unless for some reason Russia decides to hand them over...which obviously isn't very likely
You jumped the gun again. No long winded fake rationalization needed. You either have fully bought in to the narrative you have been force fed or you don't care that investigations are started with no basis to begin one and simply want to "get him" in any way possible.
Trump isn't even under investigation as far as I know. I may have missed something on that but don't believe so. Narrative keeps changing as doors are slammed shut.
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No. They were released on a Friday afternoon of a three day weekend.
really
what was the three day weekend on October 27th through October 30th 2017
btw - Papadapoulos was arrested on July 27th, 2017 and this never became public knowledge
He pled guilty on October 5th 2017 and became a cooperating witness and again this didn't become public knowledge until October 30th which was the same day Manafort and Gates surrendered to the FBI
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You jumped the gun again. No long winded fake rationalization needed. You either have fully bought in to the narrative you have been force fed or you don't care that investigations are started with no basis to begin one and simply want to "get him" in any way possible.
Trump isn't even under investigation as far as I know. I may have missed something on that but don't believe so. Narrative keeps changing as doors are slammed shut.
I don't care because that belief if total nonsense
Rosenstein (appointed by Trump) didn't assign Robert Mueller as Special Council to to "get him"
How fucking retarded to you have to be to believe that?
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I don't care because that belief if total nonsense
Rosenstein (appointed by Trump) didn't assign Robert Mueller as Special Council to to "get him"
How fucking retarded to you have to be to believe that?
You are completely melting down over embarrassing yourself with your posts again. It's like you are stuttering in frustration/anger....."that belief 'if' total nonsense"..... "to to 'get him' ".... "retarded 'to' you have to be"....
Slow down, Bud.
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You are completely melting down over embarrassing yourself with your posts again. It's like you are stuttering in frustration/anger....."that belief 'if' total nonsense"..... "to to 'get him' ".... "retarded 'to' you have to be"....
Slow down, Bud.
Hmm, let's review
Trump appointee Rod Rosenstein assigns Robert Mueller as Special Council and gave him the mandate to "go get him"..."him" being Trump
Is that what you believe?
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I don't care because that belief if total nonsense
Rosenstein (appointed by Trump) didn't assign Robert Mueller as Special Council to to "get him"
How fucking retarded to you have to be to believe that?
Right. So the fact that RR signed off on multiple FISA renewals to spy on Trump based on a phony dossier paid for by Hillary Clinton, is of no consequence? I suppose its also irrelevant that RR blatantly violated DOJ regulations mandating the appointment of special counsel by giving Mueller carte blanch to go on a partisan witch hunt? Stop drinking your own kool-aid Straw. You come off like a misinformed idiot.
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Brutal thread backfire. Strawman is like the weak kid in the school yard that keeps getting pushed around because he doesn’t know when to quit that ends with a boot to the face
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So what is the excuse going to be when Trump isn't president?
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So what is the excuse going to be when Trump isn't president?
I don't think term limits for presidents is an excuse really.
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So what is the excuse going to be when Trump isn't president?
Term limits
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Here's something I think we can all agree upon: since we are so afraid of outside influence on our sacred election process, there should be much stricter voter ID laws on the books.
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I don't think term limits for presidents is an excuse really.
This year it's going to happen......
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This year it's going to happen......
What do you know that we don't?
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So what is the excuse going to be when Trump isn't president?
1. Doesn’t matter if you admit it or not but it’s obvious he’s being railroaded. But you can’t even say why you would want him out. Oh wait, it’s because he’s white
2. The other excuse is, there is no third term so you have 7 years to go
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This year it's going to happen......
Are you threatening the president?
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there's no collusion
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The probe is a hoax. Russia is a ruse.
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The probe is a hoax. Russia is a ruse.
You’re an idiot. No one ever said that Russians weren’t involved (for the last 20 years). The hoax is the Trump/Russia collusion
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You’re an idiot. No one ever said that Russians weren’t involved (for the last 20 years). The hoax is the Trump/Russia collusion
Are you pleased with Mueller's indictments yesterday?
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who influenced our election more- Russia or Mexico?
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8)
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Remember: the Constitution and the 1st/2nd amendments are an insidious Russian plot.
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You’re an idiot. No one ever said that Russians weren’t involved (for the last 20 years). The hoax is the Trump/Russia collusion
Goal post moved
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I don't care because that belief if total nonsense
Rosenstein (appointed by Trump) didn't assign Robert Mueller as Special Council to to "get him"
How fucking retarded to you have to be to believe that?
You'd have to be pretty stupid.. or a Trump supporter.. I'm sure there is a difference, just getting harder to tell
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Almost All 13 Russian individuals/"Companies" named in the Mueller indictment were taken from a 2015 article here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.radiosvoboda.org%2Fa%2F26903778.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.radiosvoboda.org%2Fa%2F26903778.html)
Internet Research Agency (IRA), the "Russian troll farm" has been reported by BuzzFeed and other MSM since at least 2013.
ATLANTIC: Russians Online Comment Army (2013)
>https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/russias-online-comment-propaganda-army/280432/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/russias-online-comment-propaganda-army/280432/)
>http://archive.fo/Dl3Xt (http://archive.fo/Dl3Xt)
>A Russian journalist who visited one such comment-mill, the St. Petersburg Internet Research Agency, met with a coordinator who said the job was not unlike writing copy for a hair dryer: "The only difference is that this hair dryer is a political one."
BUZZFEED: Documents Show How Russia’s Troll Army Hit America (2014)
>https://archive.fo/2ZomP (https://archive.fo/2ZomP)
>According to the documents, which are attached to several hundred emails sent to the project's leader, Igor Osadchy, the effort was launched in April and is led by a firm called the Internet Research Agency. It's based in a Saint Petersburg suburb, and the documents say it employs hundreds of people across Russia who promote Putin in comments on Russian blogs.
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The probe is a hoax. Russia is a ruse.
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LOL - you wish it was case over
They just likely flipped Rick Gates this week and Bannon spent a long time talking with Mueller this week
And we have no idea what else is going on
This is just getting started
Gates flipped on Manafort. Manafort was indicted on crimes that have nothing to do with the charter for the Mueller investigation. Same thing with Flynn who, after what has been released, will not see his indictment through.
Also the 13 Russians indicted were ready to go before Meuller was even appointed. Hence why Rosenstein did the press conference. And the actual indictments read like something out of the Onion. Pretty weak.
It's obvious that the Russians wanted to weaken the frontrunner hence the "backing" (if you can call it that) of Stein, Sander and Trump. They even started to prop up Anti-Trump rallies after Trump won.
They wanted and want to sow discord and paralysis in our system.....hilariously enough the Democrats and Never Trump conspiracy theorists are more than. Happy to oblige Moscow in achieving that aim.
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Gates flipped on Manafort. Manafort was indicted on crimes that have nothing to do with the charter for the Mueller investigation. Same thing with Flynn who, after what has been released, will not see his indictment through.
Also the 13 Russians indicted were ready to go before Meuller was even appointed. Hence why Rosenstein did the press conference. And the actual indictments read like something out of the Onion. Pretty weak.
It's obvious that the Russians wanted to weaken the frontrunner hence the "backing" (if you can call it that) of Stein, Sander and Trump. They even started to prop up Anti-Trump rallies after Trump won.
They wanted and want to sow discord and paralysis in our system.....hilariously enough the Democrats and Never Trump conspiracy theorists are more than. Happy to oblige Moscow in achieving that aim.
is that all you've got?
would you rather discuss Clinton or Nixon?
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is that all you've got?
would you rather discuss Clinton or Nixon?
What I would really like to do is have a face to face discussion with you (about this) without google in front you. You would be lost, I guarantee it.
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What I would really like to do is have a face to face discussion with you (about this) without google in front you. You would be lost, I guarantee it.
face to face ?
you would have to look up to me
we don't need google
what would you like to talk about?
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is that all you've got?
would you rather discuss Clinton or Nixon?
That's really all one needs. This investigation (into a something that isn't even a crime) is getting scalps that have nothing to do with the charter laid out by Rosenstein. If you're a fan of a "special prosecutor" with unlimited budget and power to do whatever they want to whomever they want for whatever they want I think you'd be far more comfortable in a place like East Germany or Soviet Russia as you'd just love the Stasi, KGB or even the SA. Just ask Scooter Libby and Cap Weinberger know this full well.
And bringing up Clinton and Nixon makes little sense. Nixon's had a break-in/burglery and Clinton had White Water. Both had violation of criminal statutes to be based upon. If you're a Clinton guy than you know first hand how whacked out and off the rails a special prosecutor can become even considering Ken Start had court approval to widen the scope of his investigation....of course after he was done special prosecutors got a little legal nip and tuck, fo good reason.
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Is "collusion" a crime ???
Collusion is not a federal crime (except in the unique case of antitrust law), so we should all just stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality. But that doesn’t mean that the alleged cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia is of no criminal interest. To the contrary, if true, it may have violated any number of criminal prohibitions.
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Collusion is not a federal crime (except in the unique case of antitrust law), so we should all just stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality. But that doesn’t mean that the alleged cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia is of no criminal interest. To the contrary, if true, it may have violated any number of criminal prohibitions.
Requires turning off TV and ignoring all its followers, though.
Fact is, it's the strongest accusation they could safely make. Maybe it ought to tell us something about the nature of truth.
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Are you pleased with Mueller's indictments yesterday?
Yes, but it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference. They indicted them, big deal. Will they get tried and prosecuted here? No. This won’t affect their lives one way or the other.
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What I would really like to do is have a face to face discussion with you (about this) without google in front you. You would be lost, I guarantee it.
Really? A guy who would not pay for a newspaper, nor read it?
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Really? A guy who would not pay for a newspaper, nor read it?
Remind me again how this turned out..
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/polls-hillary-clinton-win_us_5821074ce4b0e80b02cc2a94