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COLLUSION CRUMBLES: Mueller Says Russian Agents HELD ANTI-TRUMP, PRO-HILLARY Rallies
The mainstream media’s year-long narrative that the Trump campaign “colluded” with Russian officials continued to crumble Friday, with special counsel Robert Mueller’s indictment claiming foreign agents held anti-Trump, pro-Hillary rallies in 2016.
Mueller’s court filings show 13 Russian nationals attempted to sow chaos throughout the election cycle and beyond; holding competing events for both Trump and Clinton on the same day in the same city.
“On one day, Nov. 12, 2016, the defendants organized a rally in New York to ‘show your support for President-elect Donald Trump’ while at the same time organizing a ‘Trump is NOT my president rally’ that also was held in New York,” writes CNBC.
NBC News also reports that the Russian agents held a “Support Hillary” rally in July 2016 in Washington, DC.
The bombshell revelations throw even more cold water on the liberal conspiracy theory that President Trump and his staff “colluded” with Russian officials to steal the election from Hillary Clinton; just one of many excuses commonly touted by the former Secretary of State following her stunning defeat.
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/collusion-crumbles-mueller-says-russian-agents-held-anti-trump-pro-hillary-rallies/
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COLLUSION CRUMBLES: Mueller Says Russian Agents HELD ANTI-TRUMP, PRO-HILLARY Rallies
The mainstream media’s year-long narrative that the Trump campaign “colluded” with Russian officials continued to crumble Friday, with special counsel Robert Mueller’s indictment claiming foreign agents held anti-Trump, pro-Hillary rallies in 2016.
Mueller’s court filings show 13 Russian nationals attempted to sow chaos throughout the election cycle and beyond; holding competing events for both Trump and Clinton on the same day in the same city.
“On one day, Nov. 12, 2016, the defendants organized a rally in New York to ‘show your support for President-elect Donald Trump’ while at the same time organizing a ‘Trump is NOT my president rally’ that also was held in New York,” writes CNBC.
NBC News also reports that the Russian agents held a “Support Hillary” rally in July 2016 in Washington, DC.
The bombshell revelations throw even more cold water on the liberal conspiracy theory that President Trump and his staff “colluded” with Russian officials to steal the election from Hillary Clinton; just one of many excuses commonly touted by the former Secretary of State following her stunning defeat.
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/collusion-crumbles-mueller-says-russian-agents-held-anti-trump-pro-hillary-rallies/
wrong again Trumptard
Not really your fault for being uninformed since you got this from Hannity
I wonder why Hannity would leave out this info considering that Rosenstein specifically said they did these specific things AFTER the election to sow discord and foment dissent
Seems like a pretty important bit of data
I wonder why Hannity left that out?
After the election, still striving to sow discord, Russians began staging political rallies both for and against President-elect Trump, sometimes on the same day, Mr. Rosenstein said.
After the election, they allegedly kept up their efforts to foment dissent. In November, they staged two rallies in New York on the same day. One had the theme: “Show your support for President-Elect Trump.” The other was called: “Trump is NOT my president.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/russians-indicted-mueller-election-interference.html
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COLLUSION CRUMBLES: Mueller Says Russian Agents HELD ANTI-TRUMP, PRO-HILLARY Rallies
The mainstream media’s year-long narrative that the Trump campaign “colluded” with Russian officials continued to crumble Friday, with special counsel Robert Mueller’s indictment claiming foreign agents held anti-Trump, pro-Hillary rallies in 2016.
Mueller’s court filings show 13 Russian nationals attempted to sow chaos throughout the election cycle and beyond; holding competing events for both Trump and Clinton on the same day in the same city.
“On one day, Nov. 12, 2016, the defendants organized a rally in New York to ‘show your support for President-elect Donald Trump’ while at the same time organizing a ‘Trump is NOT my president rally’ that also was held in New York,” writes CNBC.
NBC News also reports that the Russian agents held a “Support Hillary” rally in July 2016 in Washington, DC.
The bombshell revelations throw even more cold water on the liberal conspiracy theory that President Trump and his staff “colluded” with Russian officials to steal the election from Hillary Clinton; just one of many excuses commonly touted by the former Secretary of State following her stunning defeat.
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/collusion-crumbles-mueller-says-russian-agents-held-anti-trump-pro-hillary-rallies/
Donald Trump conspiring against himself. lol ;D
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Donald Trump conspiring against himself. lol ;D
Even when it's in black and white and explained to you you still pretend not to get it
You are pretending right?
You're not actually this fucking stupid to not understand what Rosenstein said...are you?
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Donald Trump conspiring against himself. lol ;D
I wonder if he personally shelled out the cash to hold these anti-Trump rallies ???
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wrong again Trumptard
Not really your fault for being uninformed since you got this from Hannity
I wonder why Hannity would leave out this info considering that Rosenstein specifically said they did these specific things AFTER the election to sow discord and foment dissent
Seems like a pretty important bit of data
I wonder why Hannity left that out?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/politics/russians-indicted-mueller-election-interference.html
On one day, Nov. 12, 2016, the defendants organized a rally in New York to ‘show your support for President-elect Donald Trump’ while at the same time organizing a ‘Trump is NOT my president rally’ that also was held in New York,” writes CNBC.
NBC News also reports that the Russian agents held a “Support Hillary” rally in July 2016 in Washington, DC. ( this was before the election)
The bombshell revelations throw even more cold water on the liberal conspiracy theory that President Trump and his staff “colluded” with Russian officials to steal the election from Hillary Clinton; just one of many excuses commonly touted by the former Secretary of State following her stunning defeat.
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/collusion-crumbles-mueller-says-russian-agents-held-anti-trump-pro-hillary-rallies/
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On one day, Nov. 12, 2016, the defendants organized a rally in New York to ‘show your support for President-elect Donald Trump’ while at the same time organizing a ‘Trump is NOT my president rally’ that also was held in New York,” writes CNBC.
NBC News also reports that the Russian agents held a “Support Hillary” rally in July 2016 in Washington, DC. ( this was before the election)
The bombshell revelations throw even more cold water on the liberal conspiracy theory that President Trump and his staff “colluded” with Russian officials to steal the election from Hillary Clinton; just one of many excuses commonly touted by the former Secretary of State following her stunning defeat.
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/collusion-crumbles-mueller-says-russian-agents-held-anti-trump-pro-hillary-rallies/
His best course of action at this point would probably be to call in to Hannity's show and apologize.
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On one day, Nov. 12, 2016, the defendants organized a rally in New York to ‘show your support for President-elect Donald Trump’ while at the same time organizing a ‘Trump is NOT my president rally’ that also was held in New York,” writes CNBC.
NBC News also reports that the Russian agents held a “Support Hillary” rally in July 2016 in Washington, DC. ( this was before the election)
The bombshell revelations throw even more cold water on the liberal conspiracy theory that President Trump and his staff “colluded” with Russian officials to steal the election from Hillary Clinton; just one of many excuses commonly touted by the former Secretary of State following her stunning defeat.
https://www.hannity.com/media-room/collusion-crumbles-mueller-says-russian-agents-held-anti-trump-pro-hillary-rallies/
Yet again, Hannity is misleading you and like a moron you fell for it
Is this the rally you're talking about
Why no mention of the "save american muslims" part of the title
I wonder why Hannity left that off
Must have been an oversight
No doubt they are issuing a correction as I type this
I'm sure a phony rally with a posters showing fake quotes from Hillary making positive statements about Sharia law were intended to help Hillary
right ?
Is that how Trumptard see it?
July 5, 2016. “United Muslims of America” orders posters for its rally, including one attributing a quote to Clinton: “I think Sharia Law will be a powerful new direction of freedom.” Three days later, they contact an American about the posters; it’s not clear why.
July 9, 2016. The “Support Hillary, Save American Muslims” rally is held in D.C.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/02/16/timeline-how-russian-trolls-allegedly-tried-to-throw-the-2016-election-to-trump/?utm_term=.3cb3d4c987e8
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I wonder why Hanity keeps omitting these material facts
Seems like really sloppy journalism.
It almost seems like he's doing this intentionally to mislead his unfortunate viewers
Nah, he would never do that
Must just be totally sloppy journalism
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They literally call it a "Support Hillary" rally in his own link and he still denies it, lol.
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I wonder why Hanity keeps omitting these material facts
Seems like really sloppy journalism.
It almost seems like he's doing this intentionally to mislead his unfortunate viewers
Nah, he would never do that
Must just be totally sloppy journalism
Yes CNNIsFakeNews et el are honest ::)
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They literally call it a "Support Hillary" rally in his own link and he still denies it, lol.
In 3...2....1.....
“Moron blah blah blah Trumptard blah blah blah”
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They literally call it a "Support Hillary" rally in his own link and he still denies it, lol.
wrong again Trumptard
They LITERALLY called it the “Support Hillary, Save American Muslims” rally
I gave you the full title and the link
here's the link to the 37 page indictment and below is a snip of the exact section that mentions this rally
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
Do you want to try again Trumptard
Maybe try a new tactic and act like Bum and pretend you don't understand or are just stupid
Again, how do you Hannity managed to get that title wrong?
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wrong again Trumptard
They LITERALLY called it the “Support Hillary, Save American Muslims” rally
I gave you the full title and the link
here's the link to the 37 page indictment and below is a snip of the exact section that mentions this rally
https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
Do you want to try again Trumptard
Maybe try a new tactic and act like Bum and pretend you don't understand or are just stupid
Again, how do you Hannity managed to get that title wrong?
So it wasn't a "Support Hillary" rally?
Forgive me. You are right. I should have wrote that differently and posted that "It literally has "Support Hillary..." in the headline yet you deny it, lol.".
Also, it is literally (according to your second link) called "Support Hillary. (period) Save American Muslims." Please get it correct. Which of your links is wrong? One has a comma and one has a period!! Very confused.
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So it wasn't a "Support Hillary" rally?
Also, it is literally (according to your second link) called "Support Hillary. (period) Save American Muslims." Please get it correct. Which of your links is wrong? One has a comma and one has a period!! Very confused.
and quotation marks around the entire thing
a few days prior some Muslim group (same phony group or a different phony group?) ordered poster with fake quotes suggesting Hillary was in favor of Sharia law
I have no doubt that Trumptards such as yourself would think these facts suggest this rally was intended to help Hillary
How could a fake quote by Hillary saying she supports Sharia law not be intended to help her...right ?
It's hard to see otherwise
especially if you're a moron
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and quotation marks around the entire thing
a few days prior some Muslim group (same phony group or a different phony group?) ordered poster with fake quotes suggesting Hillary was in favor of Sharia law
I have no doubt that Trumptards such as yourself would think these facts suggest this rally was intended to help Hillary
How could a fake quote by Hillary saying she supports Sharia law not be intended to help her...right ?
It's hard to see otherwise
especially if you're a moron
Strawman, I know you are still butthurt by the fact that Kim Jong Clinton did not win but I have a serious question to ask. Isn't the whole collusion conspiracy theory kind of a crock. Ok, let us hypothesize that some Russians, realizing they can manipulate Trump more than Kim Jong Clinton, conspire to advertise, misrepresent, hold rallies, etc to get their boy elected.
Ok, maybe in law, they really shouldn't try to interfere in US elections. However, both sides had SuperPACs that spewed out garbage against one another. Ultimately, isn't it up to the educated American voter to discern the puff from the reality. Do we really believe everything we are told without researching it for ourselves. Damn, you do know that blacks vote 90% for Democrats because they care and black lives are so much better voting Democrat ::). LBJ said he would have "blacks voting Democrat for years"; damn obviously he took a cue from the Russians as he made it true. Obviously, under Obama blacks rose up into the upper echelon of society and now are pillars for which we should all be proud. The Democrats are going to take care of us. I get it. I suppose the Russians spiked disgruntled white labor guys coffee so they would vote for Trump. I understand.
I digress, are the Democrats just really pissed that their private DNC emails got hacked and it became common knowledge that they were basically sabotaging the political process against Bernie from the get go...damn Russians...and it came out they were in the can for Clinton. Hey, the rumors about Clinton's health. Oh boy, the Russians are manipulating the system sabotaging the lady who is the ideal picture of health. God forbid, the Russians stole the election.
Let me guess, they brainwashed all the voters in MI, PA, and WI on election day by subliminal messaging so that Trump would pull off an amazing trifecta that none of the pundits predicted. Yes, the Russians definitely got Trump elected. You are so smart StrawMan. I bow to your intelligence.
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Oh yes, before you call me a Trumptard, what does it make you. Are you a little Cuntington. No, I perceive you to be LGBTary supporter. Better yet, are you a pre-op transgender who is pissed that your surgery will not get government funding from Planned Parenthood. Which is it StrawMan? Inquiring minds really want to know.
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So Soros funds opposing political rallies and has his puppet Mueller blame Russians? Awesome. ::)
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So Soros funds opposing political rallies and has his puppet Mueller blame Russians? Awesome. ::)
It's okay because he has like triple citizenship.
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are we going to pretend the Russians didn't want Trump elected? I ask this before I trot out the information that says they did... only to be discounted by the Trump supporters... Hell, having dealt with weird bosses over the years, I would want a Trump boss vs a Hillary boss because a Trump boss is easily manipulated and easy to read. ... but hey.. whatever..
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Strawman, I know you are still butthurt by the fact that Kim Jong Clinton did not win but I have a serious question to ask. Isn't the whole collusion conspiracy theory kind of a crock. Ok, let us hypothesize that some Russians, realizing they can manipulate Trump more than Kim Jong Clinton, conspire to advertise, misrepresent, hold rallies, etc to get their boy elected.
Ok, maybe in law, they really shouldn't try to interfere in US elections. However, both sides had SuperPACs that spewed out garbage against one another. Ultimately, isn't it up to the educated American voter to discern the puff from the reality. Do we really believe everything we are told without researching it for ourselves. Damn, you do know that blacks vote 90% for Democrats because they care and black lives are so much better voting Democrat ::). LBJ said he would have "blacks voting Democrat for years"; damn obviously he took a cue from the Russians as he made it true. Obviously, under Obama blacks rose up into the upper echelon of society and now are pillars for which we should all be proud. The Democrats are going to take care of us. I get it. I suppose the Russians spiked disgruntled white labor guys coffee so they would vote for Trump. I understand.
I digress, are the Democrats just really pissed that their private DNC emails got hacked and it became common knowledge that they were basically sabotaging the political process against Bernie from the get go...damn Russians...and it came out they were in the can for Clinton. Hey, the rumors about Clinton's health. Oh boy, the Russians are manipulating the system sabotaging the lady who is the ideal picture of health. God forbid, the Russians stole the election.
Let me guess, they brainwashed all the voters in MI, PA, and WI on election day by subliminal messaging so that Trump would pull off an amazing trifecta that none of the pundits predicted. Yes, the Russians definitely got Trump elected. You are so smart StrawMan. I bow to your intelligence.
I'm tired of repeating myself for the benefit of dimwitted Trumptards
See if you can figure out where I am on the collusion thing from this post
dude - I've said from Day 1 that I have no idea if anyone if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia
We'll find out when we find out (When/IF Mueller indicts)
I do believe they will find Trump was involved with money-laundering (I've said this many times and long before Bannon said it)
I also believe there is evidence of obstruction by Trump
BTW - this announcement today is just proof of what we already know and what all of our intelligence agencies have said, which is that Russia was involved in trying to influence the outcome of our election
That's all we know so far and we already pretty much knew that
Whoever these 13 people are they are likely to never see the inside of a courtroom unless for some reason Russia decides to hand them over...which obviously isn't very likely
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are we going to pretend the Russians didn't want Trump elected? I ask this before I trot out the information that says they did... only to be discounted by the Trump supporters... Hell, having dealt with weird bosses over the years, I would want a Trump boss vs a Hillary boss because a Trump boss is easily manipulated and easy to read. ... but hey.. whatever..
I ignored the other stupid responses in this thread to address this one. Without dwelling on your nonsensical comparison about difficult bosses and the Russians, please explain the following-- Why would Putin want:
(1) A non-politician with more money than he could ever spend; ( No interest in bribes because he's already rich and has no loyalty to the establishment/ special interest groups);
(2) who champions U.S nationalism; (Think back to the Reagan era and the destruction of the Soviet Union, which Putin has called one of the greatest tragedies in history);
(3) who threatens to disrupt the status quo; ( Think Uranium One, Clinton bribes, unchecked Russian agression overseas, assisting the Assad regime, the Iranian's etc.);
(4) and promises to reverse all of the Obama era policies that weakened the US military and allowed Russia to run amok for 8 years; (US unilateral nuclear disarmament, less military spending, missile defense to Russian neighbors like Poland etc.)
to be Prez?
The United States under Hillary is 8 more years of Obama--i.e An impotent superpower in decline actively seeking to commit suicide is exactly the America that Putin wants.
A strong US economy= bad for Putin
More US military spending and influence abroad= bad for Putin
This isn't complicated to figure out. Putin obtained 20% of US uranium for a paltry 145 million dollar donation to Hillary's fake charity. She's cheap and predictable and corrupt-- in other words, made to order for Putin.
Hope this helps.
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I ignored the other stupid responses in this thread to address this one. Without dwelling on your nonsensical comparison about difficult bosses and the Russians, please explain the following-- Why would Putin want:
(1) A non-politician with more money than he could ever spend; ( No interest in bribes because he's already rich and has no loyalty to the establishment/ special interest groups);
(2) who champions U.S nationalism; (Think back to the Reagan era and the destruction of the Soviet Union, which Putin has called one of the greatest tragedies in history);
(3) who threatens to disrupt the status quo; ( Think Uranium One, Clinton bribes, unchecked Russian agression overseas, assisting the Assad regime, the Iranian's etc.);
(4) and promises to reverse all of the Obama era policies that weakened the US military and allowed Russia to run amok for 8 years; (US unilateral nuclear disarmament, less military spending, missile defense to Russian neighbors like Poland etc.)
to be Prez?
The United States under Hillary is 8 more years of Obama--i.e An impotent superpower in decline actively seeking to commit suicide is exactly the America that Putin wants.
A strong US economy= bad for Putin
More US military spending and influence abroad= bad for Putin
This isn't complicated to figure out. Putin obtained 20% of US uranium for a paltry 145 million dollar donation to Hillary's fake charity. She's cheap and predictable and corrupt-- in other words, made to order for Putin.
Hope this helps.
Surely you'll be called a Trumptard for this.
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Surely you'll be called a Trumptard for this.
Maybe, but not by me.
1, Trumps rich.- Doesn't matter. Russia knows the way to influence and control Trump isn't about money.
2. Nationalism. - Trump contradicts Trump on a regular basis. I hate the north Korean dictator but we could probably get along.. Sure, Putin and I could be friends... etc etc.
the rest is irrelevant. a non player. The fact is, Putin recognized that Trumps ego, his past extramarital affairs, his need to be liked his 10th grade IQ made him the perfect candidate for Russia and a much better choice than Hillary
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I ignored the other stupid responses in this thread to address this one. Without dwelling on your nonsensical comparison about difficult bosses and the Russians, please explain the following-- Why would Putin want:
(1) A non-politician with more money than he could ever spend; ( No interest in bribes because he's already rich and has no loyalty to the establishment/ special interest groups);
(2) who champions U.S nationalism; (Think back to the Reagan era and the destruction of the Soviet Union, which Putin has called one of the greatest tragedies in history);
(3) who threatens to disrupt the status quo; ( Think Uranium One, Clinton bribes, unchecked Russian agression overseas, assisting the Assad regime, the Iranian's etc.);
(4) and promises to reverse all of the Obama era policies that weakened the US military and allowed Russia to run amok for 8 years; (US unilateral nuclear disarmament, less military spending, missile defense to Russian neighbors like Poland etc.)
to be Prez?
The United States under Hillary is 8 more years of Obama--i.e An impotent superpower in decline actively seeking to commit suicide is exactly the America that Putin wants.
A strong US economy= bad for Putin
More US military spending and influence abroad= bad for Putin
This isn't complicated to figure out. Putin obtained 20% of US uranium for a paltry 145 million dollar donation to Hillary's fake charity. She's cheap and predictable and corrupt-- in other words, made to order for Putin.
Hope this helps.
Spot on, but will not help people suffering from TDS.
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Russia was doing everything they could to divide our country and throw it into turmoil.
They clearly succeeded.
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Russia was doing everything they could to divide our country and throw it into turmoil.
They clearly succeeded.
that they did
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I ignored the other stupid responses in this thread to address this one. Without dwelling on your nonsensical comparison about difficult bosses and the Russians, please explain the following-- Why would Putin want:
(1) A non-politician with more money than he could ever spend; ( No interest in bribes because he's already rich and has no loyalty to the establishment/ special interest groups);
(2) who champions U.S nationalism; (Think back to the Reagan era and the destruction of the Soviet Union, which Putin has called one of the greatest tragedies in history);
(3) who threatens to disrupt the status quo; ( Think Uranium One, Clinton bribes, unchecked Russian agression overseas, assisting the Assad regime, the Iranian's etc.);
(4) and promises to reverse all of the Obama era policies that weakened the US military and allowed Russia to run amok for 8 years; (US unilateral nuclear disarmament, less military spending, missile defense to Russian neighbors like Poland etc.)
to be Prez?
The United States under Hillary is 8 more years of Obama--i.e An impotent superpower in decline actively seeking to commit suicide is exactly the America that Putin wants.
A strong US economy= bad for Putin
More US military spending and influence abroad= bad for Putin
This isn't complicated to figure out. Putin obtained 20% of US uranium for a paltry 145 million dollar donation to Hillary's fake charity. She's cheap and predictable and corrupt-- in other words, made to order for Putin.
Hope this helps.
The crimea and ukraine sanctions upended the russian economy. I just did a quick lookup and by some estimates the russia's gdp shrunk by 50% during that period. Of course putin would want to reset relations with a candidate who constantly gave him public tongue-baths. That's just one example of policy that was in place during the election campaign.
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The crimea and ukraine sanctions upended the russian economy. I just did a quick lookup and by some estimates the russia's gdp shrunk by 50% during that period. Of course putin would want to reset relations with a candidate who constantly gave him public tongue-baths. That's just one example of policy that was in place during the election campaign.
Right.
Increased military spending and a booming American economy.
The best possible outcome for Putin. ::)
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Right.
Increased military spending and a booming American economy.
The best possible outcome for Putin. ::)
Allied with an idiot president who idolizes him. Absolutely.
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Maybe, but not by me.
1, Trumps rich.- Doesn't matter. Russia knows the way to influence and control Trump isn't about money.
2. Nationalism. - Trump contradicts Trump on a regular basis. I hate the north Korean dictator but we could probably get along.. Sure, Putin and I could be friends... etc etc.
the rest is irrelevant. a non player. The fact is, Putin recognized that Trumps ego, his past extramarital affairs, his need to be liked his 10th grade IQ made him the perfect candidate for Russia and a much better choice than Hillary
So your what are your answers to each then ? Let me quess.
1 - they are controlling Trump with a Pee tape ::)
2- Trump is colluding with North Korea and Russia to take over the world ::)
3 - Russia is doing a better job than Hussien ever did as the US economy is gang busters, yes that is Russia controlling the USA ::)
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Allied with an idiot president who idolizes him. Absolutely.
Allied? idolizes him? lol
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Allied with an idiot president who idolizes him. Absolutely.
People do not take you serious on this forum.
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People do not take you serious on this forum.
You, beach bum, and coach? I won't recover. ::)
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The crimea and ukraine sanctions upended the russian economy. I just did a quick lookup and by some estimates the russia's gdp shrunk by 50% during that period. Of course putin would want to reset relations with a candidate who constantly gave him public tongue-baths. That's just one example of policy that was in place during the election campaign.
::) Ok rerun. Whatever you say.
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You, beach bum, and coach? I won't recover. ::)
Probably closer to 90% of the people on this forum do not take you serious.
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I ignored the other stupid responses in this thread to address this one. Without dwelling on your nonsensical comparison about difficult bosses and the Russians, please explain the following-- Why would Putin want:
(1) A non-politician with more money than he could ever spend; ( No interest in bribes because he's already rich and has no loyalty to the establishment/ special interest groups);
(2) who champions U.S nationalism; (Think back to the Reagan era and the destruction of the Soviet Union, which Putin has called one of the greatest tragedies in history);
(3) who threatens to disrupt the status quo; ( Think Uranium One, Clinton bribes, unchecked Russian agression overseas, assisting the Assad regime, the Iranian's etc.);
(4) and promises to reverse all of the Obama era policies that weakened the US military and allowed Russia to run amok for 8 years; (US unilateral nuclear disarmament, less military spending, missile defense to Russian neighbors like Poland etc.)
to be Prez?
The United States under Hillary is 8 more years of Obama--i.e An impotent superpower in decline actively seeking to commit suicide is exactly the America that Putin wants.
A strong US economy= bad for Putin
More US military spending and influence abroad= bad for Putin
This isn't complicated to figure out. Putin obtained 20% of US uranium for a paltry 145 million dollar donation to Hillary's fake charity. She's cheap and predictable and corrupt-- in other words, made to order for Putin.
Hope this helps.
Trump loves money. He's said so many time and so have his kids. Bribes aren't really on the radar. The real issue is BLACKMAIL
Trump has a lot of shady deals (perhaps criminal) that he's likely hiding.
He was dumb enough to state publicly that he and his families personal finances are "off limits". Bannon mocked his mercilessly for making this public statement
It also seems very odd that the guy who constantly claims "no collusion" has not enacted the new sanctions that Congress passed last year with a vote of 419 to 3.
Weird that the guy who constantly says "no collusion" and who you claim "champions nationalism" seems to care more about what is best for Russia than what is best for our country. Is that Russian nationalism he is championing?
For a guy who constantly says "no collusion" he sure keeps acting like a guy who is colluding with Russia and against the best interest of the US
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Probably closer to 90% of the people on this forum do not take you serious.
LOL Okay, well now that you've given me a rough estimate based on hard science, everything's changed. I actually am devastated. ::) Your post is ironic considering it literally sounds like something a child would say.
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LOL Okay, well now that you've given me a rough estimate based on hard science, everything's changed. I actually am devastated. ::) Your post is ironic considering it literally sounds like something a child would say.
Too busy making money under The Trump Economy to be bothered with bottom dwellers like yourself!
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Too busy making money under The Trump Economy to be bothered with bottom dwellers like yourself!
So busy that you responded to a post that wasn't directed at you and then responded 3 more times. ::) Is that an example of a post I should be taking seriously? Or nah?
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The crimea and ukraine sanctions upended the russian economy. I just did a quick lookup and by some estimates the russia's gdp shrunk by 50% during that period. Of course putin would want to reset relations with a candidate who constantly gave him public tongue-baths. That's just one example of policy that was in place during the election campaign.
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I know you like to limit your political ideology to memes and emoticon (presumably, the type of seriousness I should be aspiring to), but care to elaborate?
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I know you like to limit your political ideology to memes and emoticon (presumably, the type of seriousness I should be aspiring to), but care to elaborate?
Please cite the sources that calculated Russian GDP dropped by 50% under Obama.
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You, beach bum, and coach? I won't recover. ::)
nailed it
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Probably closer to 90% of the people on this forum do not take you serious.
x2
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Probably closer to 90% of the people on this forum do not take you serious.
I'm certain there is a name for this fallacy... you can't beat him in a debate so you start throwing out these things... what's it called?... anyone?
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I'm certain there is a name for this fallacy... you can't beat him in a debate so you start throwing out these things... what's it called?... anyone?
What debate?
His ad hominem attacks sound like you on a Saturday night after a fifth of Crown and when he does attempt to state “facts” he comes out with doozys like Russia’s GDP dropped 50%
The guy is a troll and shall be treated as such.
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I'm certain there is a name for this fallacy... you can't beat him in a debate so you start throwing out these things... what's it called?... anyone?
We call it liberalism.
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I'm certain there is a name for this fallacy... you can't beat him in a debate so you start throwing out these things... what's it called?... anyone?
They should call themselves the doofus coalition.
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What debate?
His ad hominem attacks sound like you on a Saturday night after a fifth of Crown and when he does attempt to state “facts” he comes out with doozys like Russia’s GDP dropped 50%
The guy is a troll and shall be treated as such.
You only have to plug those search terms into google and there are multiple articles about Russia's gdp contracting. Here's one where politifact debates whether it was 35 or 50.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/feb/21/anthony-tata/how-have-sanctions-impacted-russias-economy/
The ruble destabilized so much during this period that the gdp shrunk drastically.
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What debate?
His ad hominem attacks sound like you on a Saturday night after a fifth of Crown and when he does attempt to state “facts” he comes out with doozys like Russia’s GDP dropped 50%
The guy is a troll and shall be treated as such.
Crown? are you mad?!
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Crown? are you mad?!
Too expensive for you ???
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Too expensive for you ???
Just not my thing. Oban 14, or a Jameson for whiskey, Don Julio 1942 for tequila sippin
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Just not my thing. Oban 14, or a Jameson for whiskey, Don Julio 1942 for tequila sippin
Step your game up a little bit.
The forum is designed for serious political discussion not a piss off.
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Looking at the indictment and avoiding CNN or Hannity input, Page 4 line 6 looks interesting. It actually says they were supporting Trump and disparaging Hillary and Bernie.
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Looking at the indictment and avoiding CNN or Hannity input, Page 4 line 6 looks interesting. It actually says they were supporting Trump and disparaging Hillary and Bernie.
They also supported Bernie and Jill Stein. And both supported and opposed Trump.
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Looking at the indictment and avoiding CNN or Hannity input, Page 4 line 6 looks interesting. It actually says they were supporting Trump and disparaging Hillary and Bernie.
This is what really upsets me the most.
You come on this forum, spew you bullshit, and do not even have the slightest idea of what you are talking about in regards to these latest findings.
You are literally some guy running your mouth about something you know nothing about because you were too lazy to look it.
Complete disrespect to the forum.
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This is what really upsets me the most.
You come on this forum, spew you bullshit, and do not even have the slightest idea of what you are talking about in regards to these latest findings.
You are literally some guy running your mouth about something you know nothing about because you were too lazy to look it.
Complete disrespect to the forum.
Dude I'm sorry! Where in the indictment does it contradict what I said? I will certainly read it and apologize if warranted
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Should I copy and paste Page 4 paragraph 6? Would that help?
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I'll ask here too...are we to believe that 13 "Russians" on social media influenced the US election more than the millions of illegal aliens or dead voters?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/campaign-finance/
Even the washington post says dems spent 1.4B. Are we saying none of that money came from forgein donors and was spent on social media ads, rallies, protest, etc?
13 Russians....really?
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I'll ask here too...are we to believe that 13 "Russians" on social media influenced the US election more than the millions of illegal aliens or dead voters?
oh my.. you actually believe....Trump was stating a fact?
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oh my.. you actually believe....Trump was stating a fact?
I modified my post but tell me, what part did Trump say?
And hurry up, I'm almost done with my Flor de Las Antilles