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'The head of the National Rifle Association (NRA) has backed President Donald Trump's call to arm teachers trained to carry concealed guns and
warned of a "socialist wave" in America to take away guns and limit individual freedom.'
This is exactly what I was talking about the last time. Instead of befriending nations (especially Slavs would be useful) NRA and Trump is pushing in the direction of a "communist monster" looming over the country.
Wake up my dear Americans and get rid of the dirty, sleazy rich elite raping and brainwashing you for generations!
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"No one on the prohibited persons list should ever have access to a firearm. No killer. No felon. No drug dealer. And anyone adjudicated as mentally incompetent or dangerous to society should be prevented from getting a gun," Mr LaPierre said.
and he talks about 'socialists limiting freedoms'...Holy fahck!
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Who's ruining the country?
Teachers won't carry guns in schools, they can't touch kids but they will carry firearms? Lol.
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Who's ruining the country?
Teachers won't carry guns in schools, they can't touch kids but they will carry firearms? Lol.
should be vice-versa, no guns and punitive measures for the little fuckers, nothing too extreme
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There is no perfect solution to this but I think we should have armed security at schools. Enough armed security to be effective in repelling attacks like this. A big part of that is going to be making sure doors are locked once school starts so people can't just waltz onto a school campus and start spraying people. If teachers want to carry and they are trained and able to carry safely then fine. I don't think relying on teachers is the answer though. Their job is hard enough already and most of them just aren't the type. They aren't fighters. Pay the fighters to fight. Hire armed security. We do it everywhere else that has valuable things in it.
These nut jobs are looking for soft targets where they will face little to no opposition. Usually when someone starts shooting back at them they stop, flee, or shoot themselves in the head right there. They want soft targets, period. We can't continue to allow schools to be soft targets. When the loonies see that we are going to stand and fight they will go somewhere else. They are cowards.
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First thing to do is give back adults’ freedoms to smash unruly little fuckers. Kid gloves is NOT how children should be treated. Keep them in line. If they veer, catch them with some punitive measures.
And if they continue and ignore society-at-large’s warnings, via said “corrective measures”, they’re positioning themselves as a menace to society.
At this point, the big guns come out.
We do NOT force enough responsibility on young people of today.
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have to say, that I agree with both of you
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'The head of the National Rifle Association (NRA) has backed President Donald Trump's call to arm teachers trained to carry concealed guns and
warned of a "socialist wave" in America to take away guns and limit individual freedom.'
This is exactly what I was talking about the last time. Instead of befriending nations (especially Slavs would be useful) NRA and Trump is pushing in the direction of a "communist monster" looming over the country.
Wake up my dear Americans and get rid of the dirty, sleazy rich elite raping and brainwashing you for generations!
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First thing to do is give back adults’ freedoms to smash unruly little fuckers. Kid gloves is NOT how children should be treated. Keep them in line. If they veer, catch them with some punitive measures.
And if they continue and ignore society-at-large’s warnings, via said “corrective measures”, they’re positioning themselves as a menace to society.
At this point, the big guns come out.
We do NOT force enough responsibility on young people of today.
Yep. At this point adults have to live in fear of children. There is no way to force them to do what they are told. The children have become the parents.
This is not working out well for anyone and it's only going to get worse as more an more of these entitled, parent-less children grow up and go out into the world.
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Yep. At this point adults have to live in fear of children. There is no way to force them to do what they are told. The children have become the parents.
This is not working out well for anyone and it's only going to get worse as more an more of these entitled, parent-less children grow up and go out into the world.
I have seen an example of this first hand over the years with my brother-in-law. The parents are literally scared of their 32 year old daughter that is over-educated and doesn’t have a job. She rules the household. Pathetic.
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Yep. At this point adults have to live in fear of children. There is no way to force them to do what they are told. The children have become the parents.
This is not working out well for anyone and it's only going to get worse as more an more of these entitled, parent-less children grow up and go out into the world.
The single-mother deal needs to be painted with shame, as well.
In the real world, a strong parental presence from both a MOTHER and a FATHER is optimum.
Single motherhood is an epidemic. It’s a disaster.
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I agree, but it seems that the current system is encouraging division. The reason?
Well that's easy, as usual, you make more money the more divided households are created. The family does not raise a child and the system brainwashes it into a zombie that knows only to respond to commands issued by the Master.
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I have seen an example of this first hand over the years with my brother-in-law. The parents are literally scared of their 32 year old daughter that is over-educated and doesn’t have a job. She rules the household. Pathetic.
That's their own fault for not establishing respect from the getgo.
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One of the most gayest names ever, "Wayne LaPierre" hahaha
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One of the most gayest names ever, "Wayne LaPierre" hahaha
Gayer than Wayne Demilia
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The breaking of the family unit allows govt to be the parent, comrades.
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The leftcuck globalists desire to create a society in which each individual is reliant on the government for essentially everything.
It becomes ... even our family.
To splinter and erode the family unit as your strongest support system is the goal. Just as is destroying nationalism by forcefully flooding white nations with immigrants who couldn’t give one shit about that land’s history, culture and heritage.
The pieces of the big puzzle are clear as day for those with eyes to see.
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The breaking of the family unit allows govt to be the parent, comrades.
I JUST posted my comment ... and saw yours, above. Haha.
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close the schools.
problem solved.
you see, unlike you guys i have reasonable, working solutions.
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close the schools.
problem solved.
you see, unlike you guys i have reasonable, working solutions.
even easier
just issue every child a gun on the first day of kindergarten
that's more of an american solution
the right answer is always more guns
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even easier
just issue every child a gun on the first day of kindergarten
that's more of an american solution
the right answer is always more guns
If you have an effective solution to this problem then please provide it. Idiotic mockery accomplishes nothing.
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If you have an effective solution to this problem then please provide it. Idiotic mockery accomplishes nothing.
i just did. close the schools.
in these modern times, there are no need for teachers.
homeschooling + internet.
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i just did. close the schools.
in these modern times, there are no need for teachers.
homeschooling + internet.
Unfortunately, in the USA both parents often work and aren't able to become their child's teacher even if they want to.
And that's if a kid is lucky enough to even have two parents which many are not. Single moms don't need more to do, they have enough on their plate.
Even as great as the internet is, children can not educate themselves completely unsupervised.
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Where's this?
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If you have an effective solution to this problem then please provide it. Idiotic mockery accomplishes nothing.
I wasn't mocking anything
there are more guns in this country than people and this mass shooting thing isn't going away
the only solution is more guns
you disagree?
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Where's this?
looks like some european dump that is supposed to illustrate white superiority
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I wasn't mocking anything
there are more guns in this country than people and this mass shooting thing isn't going away
the only solution is more guns
you disagree?
Simply having more guns isn't the plan you suggested. You said we should issue guns to kindergartners.
It's an idiotic comment the intention of which isn't difficult to discern. Mockery is a great tool for simpletons. You can criticize the ideas of others without the burden of having to come up with an alternative yourself.
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The people from the NRA are absolutely bonkos!!
My friend, who owns about 15 guns, belonged to the NRA. After buying a home, he cancelled his NRA membership, as he did not want another unnecessary bill.
The people from the NRA kept calling and practically harassing him. They were literally screaming at him to JOIN AGAIN!! He said one guy called him, screaming into the phone, saying, "OBAMA IS GOING TO TAKE OUR GUNS!!!"
After a few calls, they stopped bothering him lol
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Arming teachers is a ridiculously dumb idea.
What's funny, is that MANY state, city, and government buildings have armed guards who just stand there all day and protect others.
Yet, you want to arm teachers and give them yet another responsibility, on top of teaching. Why should teachers be "strapped" with another thing on their job description? Why is it okay to hire an armed guard for a government building solely to protect the people in the building, but you dont want to do the same for schools?
As I said in a previous thread, just like you have armed guards in court houses, put 2 armed guards at every school entrance.
Further, most teachers wont have the constitution to shoot someone:
The experts added that even with proper firearms training, to expect a teacher to be able to shoot down an attacker — and not accidentally injure anyone else — is unrealistic.
"To be trained is not just about shooting. Your heart is beating like crazy, your adrenaline is all over your body, and you have to make a wise decision about what to do," Hemenway said.
Brian Levin, a former officer with the New York Police Department, said in the heat of the moment, it's too easy to misfire. He recalled a time early in his career when he almost shot an unarmed man fleeing a shooting scene.
"Often times when you’re having an adrenaline-filled situation, you’re not sure who the target is," said Levin, who is now a criminal justice professor at California State University, San Bernardino
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The people from the NRA are absolutely bonkos!!
My friend, who owns about 15 guns, belonged to the NRA. After buying a home, he cancelled his NRA membership, as he did not want another unnecessary bill.
The people from the NRA kept calling and practically harassing him. They were literally screaming at him to JOIN AGAIN!! He said one guy called him, screaming into the phone, saying, "OBAMA IS GOING TO TAKE OUR GUNS!!!"
After a few calls, they stopped bothering him lol
My membership lapsed a few times over the years. I got a lot of mail but no phone calls.
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My membership lapsed a few times over the years. I got a lot of mail but no phone calls.
The people from the NRA just need to admit they really dont care about the constitution. They just care about filling their pockets, like most organizations.
How many of them would sell out for a few million? ??? ???
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The people from the NRA just need to admit they really dont care about the constitution. They just care about filling their pockets, like most organizations.
How many of them would sell out for a few million? ??? ???
I don't agree with that. The NRA is the only 2nd Amendment advocacy group that gets heard by Congress. They have a seat at the table and it takes money to do that.
I may not agree with everything they say and do but when it comes to protecting the right to keep and bear arms, they are it. Everybody else talks loud but they are just pissing in the wind.
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Arming teachers is a ridiculously dumb idea.
Disagree or allowing them to be armed would be more what I would point towards. Depends on the teacher/their background/training, etc. I wouldn't make it a "you have to be armed" scenario.
Fully agree with the rest of what you posted. No reason that we protect so much with armed security, etc. but will not protect our school kids.
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Disagree or allowing them to be armed would be more what I would point towards. Depends on the teacher/their background/training, etc. I wouldn't make it a "you have to be armed" scenario.
Fully agree with the rest of what you posted. No reason that we protect so much with armed security, etc. but will not protect our school kids.
We protect our children with fucking signs.
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I don't agree with that. The NRA is the only 2nd Amendment advocacy group that gets heard by Congress. They have a seat at the table and it takes money to do that.
I may not agree with everything they say and do but when it comes to protecting the right to keep and bear arms, they are it. Everybody else talks loud but they are just pissing in the wind.
Yes, they are it, because it fills their pockets with money. Most of them would not be into it if it wasn't making them money. I mean, that goes for most, if not all major organizations. Not just the NRA.
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Disagree or allowing them to be armed would be more what I would point towards. Depends on the teacher/their background/training, etc. I wouldn't make it a "you have to be armed" scenario.
Fully agree with the rest of what you posted. No reason that we protect so much with armed security, etc. but will not protect our school kids.
I agree, it shouldn't be a requirement.
The requirement should be 2 armed guards at every entrance, just like in many other city, state and government buildings.
Hell, people with a suitcase full of diamonds have armed guards protecting them. Why not our children? ??? ???
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Arming teachers is a ridiculously dumb idea.
What's funny, is that MANY state, city, and government buildings have armed guards who just stand there all day and protect others.
Yet, you want to arm teachers and give them yet another responsibility, on top of teaching. Why should teachers be "strapped" with another thing on their job description? Why is it okay to hire an armed guard for a government building solely to protect the people in the building, but you dont want to do the same for schools?
As I said in a previous thread, just like you have armed guards in court houses, put 2 armed guards at every school entrance.
Further, most teachers wont have the constitution to shoot someone:
The experts added that even with proper firearms training, to expect a teacher to be able to shoot down an attacker — and not accidentally injure anyone else — is unrealistic.
"To be trained is not just about shooting. Your heart is beating like crazy, your adrenaline is all over your body, and you have to make a wise decision about what to do," Hemenway said.
Brian Levin, a former officer with the New York Police Department, said in the heat of the moment, it's too easy to misfire. He recalled a time early in his career when he almost shot an unarmed man fleeing a shooting scene.
"Often times when you’re having an adrenaline-filled situation, you’re not sure who the target is," said Levin, who is now a criminal justice professor at California State University, San Bernardino
Arming selective school staff members is one of the best solutions there is. You don’t make it known to the kids or parents which staff members are armed or not. There are several states that have already implemented it along time ago. Then you put a cop at certain areas of the school. Add metal detectors and/or X-ray (TSA) system and there you have it.
Either way, you have to arm staff members. It’s common sense.
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Yes, they are it, because it fills their pockets with money. Most of them would not be into it if it wasn't making them money. I mean, that goes for most, if not all major organizations. Not just the NRA.
Baseless accusations. Come on bro, you're better than this.
Do you even know anybody on the board at the NRA? There are people in the world who have actual beliefs. ;D
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Simply having more guns isn't the plan you suggested. You said we should issue guns to kindergartners.
It's an idiotic comment the intention of which isn't difficult to discern. Mockery is a great tool for simpletons. You can criticize the ideas of others without the burden of having to come up with an alternative yourself.
OK, fair point
First day of elementary school then
See I can compromise
If all the kids at Sandyhook had guns then maybe a few less of them would be dead today
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OK, fair point
First day of elementary school then
See I can compromise
If all the kids at Sandyhook had guns then maybe a few less of them would be dead today
Aaaaand, you've lost the debate.
This is why most liberals don't want to debate gun control, because it's based on logic that doesn't hold up very well to scrutiny.
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I'm a gun owner and the NRA is a fucking joke , I NEVER joined , will never join , so many other better organizations who make real progress
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The only solution is arming the teachers
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Arming selective school staff members is one of the best solutions there is. You don’t make it known to the kids or parents which staff members are armed or not. There are several states that have already implemented it along time ago. Then you put a cop at certain areas of the school. Add metal detectors and/or X-ray (TSA) system and there you have it.
Either way, you have to arm staff members. It’s common sense.
No, its not the best solution. Your logic makes ZERO sense. You're fine with having armed guards at court houses to protect lawyers and judges, but then expect teachers to carry around guns. With that logic, get rid of the armed guards at court houses and let the judges and lawyers be strapped. You say "You have to arm teachers." So, why aren't judges or lawyers strapped? They don't need to be because that is what ARMED GUARDS are for. The same thing should apply to schools. The judges and lawyers need to do their job and leave the lethal enforcement up to the armed guards. The teachers need to do their job and leave lethal enforcement up to the armed guards. Maybe court houses don't have random shootings because of all the armed guards. Thus, the same logic would apply to schools. Yet, you want to arm the teachers, but not judges or lawyers. What about the armed guards who protect Citibank? By your logic, get rid of the armed guards who protect Citibank and just strap all the accountants and financial managers. ??? ??? You seem to be totally fine with EVERYWHERE else having armed guards, except in schools, where you think the teachers should be strapped. Ridiculously, stupid logic.
The best solution is having 2-3 of these men standing at every school entrance (below picture). If you cannot see this, then there is no hope for you. Then again, you're obsessed with Trump, so of course you will go by whatever he says.
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Baseless accusations. Come on bro, you're better than this.
Do you even know anybody on the board at the NRA? There are people in the world who have actual beliefs. ;D
It's not a baseless accusation. Its based off of sound reasoning, which suggests that ALL organizations primarily care about ONE thing: Money. The NRA cares about money above all things. You cannot be an organization without thriving on capital. That's just a plain fact.
Do some of the people in the NRA care about guns and the 2nd amendment? Sure. But, I bet they care about the "bottom dollar" a lot more.
I think that is the way it works for MOST, if not ALL organizations, not just the NRA. Like, the organizations who care about social justice. They don't give two shits about social justice. They care about expanding their market to increase their capital.
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It's not a baseless accusation. Its based off of sound reasoning, which suggests that ALL organizations primarily care about ONE thing: Money. The NRA cares about money above all things. You cannot be an organization without thriving on capital. That's just a plain fact.
Do some of the people in the NRA care about guns and the 2nd amendment? Sure. But, I bet they care about the "bottom dollar" a lot more.
I think that is the way it works for MOST, if not ALL organizations, not just the NRA. Like, the organizations who care about social justice. They don't give two shits about social justice. They care about expanding their market to increase their capital.
You do realize that the NR is a non-profit right? lol.
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I know ex-military guys that would love a job hanging out making sure our kids are safe. We protect our banks, government employees, amusement parks, etc with armed guards, why not our kids?
A point that was brought up to me is that after Sept 11th, we had dozens of cops/guards in our airports and TSA, why can't we do that for our kids in schools?
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You do realize that the NR is a non-profit right? lol.
Someone always has their hands in someone else's pocket. ;) ;)
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Guess none of you ever went to an inner city school. Although not armed, my high school had a security guy walking the grounds and that was a long time ago.
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I know ex-military guys that would love a job hanging out making sure our kids are safe. We protect our banks, government employees, amusement parks, etc with armed guards, why not our kids?
A point that was brought up to me is that after Sept 11th, we had dozens of cops/guards in our airports and TSA, why can't we do that for our kids in schools?
That is why I am trying to figure out from Coach lol.
Airports--armed guards. Pilots, flight attendants and staff are not armed.
Court: armed guards. Judges, lawyers, social workers are not armed.
Citibank: armed guards. Accountants, secretaries, financial managers, etc not armed.
Department of motor vehicles: armed guards (yes, Ive seen this). DMV workers are not armed.
NYC subsway: armed guards or police. MTA workers are not armed.
Schools: NO armed guards. Arm the teachers.
Where is the logic in this? lol lol
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Guess none of you ever went to an inner city school. Although not armed, my high school had a security guy walking the grounds and that was a long time ago.
I went to a horrible high school in NYC and we had a lot of security guards--unfortunately, many of them were dealing drugs to the students lol. Not to mention half of them would have crapped themselves at the sight of a gun.
We need truly trained people at schools. Not teachers or security guards.
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Where's this?
Ukraine.
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The high school I went to had a police officer on foot. Sometimes 2.
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Why do American schoolchildren not wear school
uniforms?
When I was at school, we all wore uniforms, had to look neat at all times and respect our uniform and there was a lot of discipline and respect. Whenever a teacher walked past we had to stand up and greet them and same when any entered the classroom, including the cleaners. If anyone was caught smoking or any other offence they had to wear a sign around their neck as they cleaned the school as punishment.
Without discipline and order, humans are just animals.
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That is why I am trying to figure out from Coach lol.
Airports--armed guards. Pilots, flight attendants and staff are not armed.
Court: armed guards. Judges, lawyers, social workers are not armed.
Citibank: armed guards. Accountants, secretaries, financial managers, etc not armed.
Department of motor vehicles: armed guards (yes, Ive seen this). DMV workers are not armed.
NYC subsway: armed guards or police. MTA workers are not armed.
Schools: NO armed guards. Arm the teachers.
Where is the logic in this? lol lol
Where is the logic? Are you kidding? We’re taking about protecting kids in a school (let’s use mine for example) of almost 3000 kids. Certain chosen and willing staff members with conceal/ Carry, on campus police? Do you even realize how easy it to get into a school the size of what, a few hundred acres? As opposed to an area like a courtroom of maybe 3-4000 sqft? With X-ray and detectors? Get real.
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Common sense
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Guess none of you ever went to an inner city school. Although not armed, my high school had a security guy walking the grounds and that was a long time ago.
For several years I visited all LA unified school district campuses in South Central (now called South LA ::)). I think every one had a continual LAPD presence.
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Ukraine.
Yeah ;)
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There is no perfect solution to this but I think we should have armed security at schools. Enough armed security to be effective in repelling attacks like this. A big part of that is going to be making sure doors are locked once school starts so people can't just waltz onto a school campus and start spraying people. If teachers want to carry and they are trained and able to carry safely then fine. I don't think relying on teachers is the answer though. Their job is hard enough already and most of them just aren't the type. They aren't fighters. Pay the fighters to fight. Hire armed security. We do it everywhere else that has valuable things in it.
These nut jobs are looking for soft targets where they will face little to no opposition. Usually when someone starts shooting back at them they stop, flee, or shoot themselves in the head right there. They want soft targets, period. We can't continue to allow schools to be soft targets. When the loonies see that we are going to stand and fight they will go somewhere else. They are cowards.
I am usually leaning toward ensuring 2nd Amendment rights but this whole “arming the teachers” angle is riling me up. Stupid is the word:
1. It seems like just a way to avoid talking about the other aspects of the problem.
2. Above comment is correct, “teachers are just not the type”, Remember the old fashioned expression, “old maid school teacher.” Well, I know that’s not applicable any more but it’s still kind of applicable
3. If you give a financial incentive for the teacher to carry a gun, it’s going to do exactly what you don’t want it to do, give people who may have no aptitude but want extra income (many teachers) an incentive to get armed.
4. Dangerous to keep a firearm in your desk in a disorganized inner city type classroom. Students could get to it.
5. Impractical if the gun is locked up. Do you get to it in time? Some classrooms will have a gun but most won’t? The gun packing teacher will abandon his or her students and run down the hallway like a vigilante cop?
Individual school districts should have the right to do whatever they want. Maybe in Northern Michigan where everybody hunts it could work. But the President should shut up about it. He does not know what he’s talking about. And the federal government should definitely NOT fund incentives for teachers to be armed. SHEEESH!
Armed security guards are fine if the school district wants to invest in it. That’s their training and their job.
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The problem is the US schooling system, it does not teach respect and discipline.
When I was at school there was no bullying, because we were taught to respect each other, our teachers and our school. Also, with uniforms in school, rich or poor, we are all equal, you don't know who's rich or poor at least.
Whenever I watch US movies or series about their schools, it looks like a nightmare.
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Where is the logic? Are you kidding? We’re taking about protecting kids in a school (let’s use mine for example) of almost 3000 kids. Certain chosen and willing staff members with conceal/ Carry, on campus police? Do you even realize how easy it to get into a school the size of what, a few hundred acres? As opposed to an area like a courtroom of maybe 3-4000 sqft? With X-ray and detectors? Get real.
What are you talking about? Lol. Many government buildings are bigger than schools and supplied with armed guards. Airports too. I am not talking about the courtroom itself-the WHOLE building is chocked full of armed guards. Not to mention there are many schools with metal detectors. Walk around any federal building in NYC and see how many people are strapped.
The fact is, its simply common sense. Put armed guards at each entrance and you will see a lot less school shootings. You can also add in metal detectors, like some schools already have.
It's s horrible idea to strap teachers. No common sense. Please, son.
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Common sense
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/hundreds-of-teachers-sign-up-for-free-gun-training-in-ohio
99.999999999999% of teachers would crap their pant before taking down an assailant.
Use common sense, son.
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The problem is the US schooling system, it does not teach respect and discipline.
When I was at school there was no bullying, because we were taught to respect each other, our teachers and our school. Also, with uniforms in school, rich or poor, we are all equal, you don't know who's rich or poor at least.
Whenever I watch US movies or series about their schools, it looks like a nightmare.
And the US parenting system!
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99.999999999999% of teachers would crap their pant before taking down an assailant.
Use common sense, son.
Depends on the teacher. You just don’t give that responsibility to anyone.
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Schools: NO armed guards. Arm the teachers.
Where is the logic in this? lol lol
Don't think he is saying that. Correct me if I am wrong but believe Coach is saying on top of the other security measures.
There are armed teachers in some states (Utah, etc.).
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An interesting detail of the repeated failures of authorities to act on explicit warnings about this kid.
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"No one on the prohibited persons list should ever have access to a firearm. No killer. No felon. No drug dealer. And anyone adjudicated as mentally incompetent or dangerous to society should be prevented from getting a gun," Mr LaPierre said.
and he talks about 'socialists limiting freedoms'...Holy fahck!
So you think felons,drug dealers and mentally ill should be allowed guns?
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Don't think he is saying that. Correct me if I am wrong but believe Coach is saying on top of the other security measures.
There are armed teachers in some states (Utah, etc.).
So why don't we arm people in other occupations, but instead, just put armed guards?
Why aren't the lawyers or judges strapped in a court house?
We don't put the burden of responsibility on a judge to carry. Why put that burden on a teacher?
It's odd that in no other occupation (except the obvious ones) do we expect someone to carry except teachers.
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And the US parenting system!
Perhaps, but their whole schooling system looks like a free-for-all and way too laid back and informal.
No respect, no discipline, no strictness, no uniforms etc.
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So why don't we arm people in other occupations, but instead, just put armed guards?
Why aren't the lawyers or judges strapped in a court house?
We don't put the burden of responsibility on a judge to carry. Why put that burden on a teacher?
It's odd that in no other occupation (except the obvious ones) do we expect someone to carry except teachers.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/ohio/articles/2017-08-27/we-carry-guns-armed-judges-in-spotlight-after-ohio-attack
Could have swore judges could carry as there is a specific gun called "The Judge" named after that but had to look it up to make sure.
I still think there is a misunderstanding of the stance. I do not think it should be an expectation but do believe (if some choose) they should be allowed to carry if trained, etc. The expectation should be the security guards/other things that you mentioned. Teachers would be more "icing on the cake".
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https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/ohio/articles/2017-08-27/we-carry-guns-armed-judges-in-spotlight-after-ohio-attack
Could have swore judges could carry as their is a specific gun called "The Judge" named after that but had to look it up to make sure.
I still think there is a misunderstanding of the stance. I do not think it should be an expectation but do believe (if some choose) they should be allowed to carry if trained, etc. The expectation should be the security guards/other things that you mentioned. Teachers would be more "icing on the cake".
I stand corrected regarding the judge statement.
However, there are less shooting in many federal buildings because you have MULTIPLE armed guards surrounding or inside the building, making it less likely that a judge will need to carry a gun (even if they wanted to).
If you do the same with schools, there is less of a chance that a teacher will even need to carry one (even if they wanted to). I just don't trust the average teacher, even trained, to start opening fire with hundreds of students around. I am not too sure I agree with teachers carrying around guns just for the "icing on the cake"--it may or may not pose too much risk.
But I HIGHLY disagree with many of the hardcore liberals who want no guns in schools at all. Absolutely ridiculous.