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Title: Great Picture
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2018, 11:33:39 AM
Melania seems genuinely happy ...maybe because her cheating spouse is not around

Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: polychronopolous on April 23, 2018, 12:06:00 PM
When your political party is becoming more and more irrelevant and cartoonish by the day, you make threads like this.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2018, 12:13:24 PM
When your political party is becoming more and more irrelevant and cartoonish by the day, you make threads like this.

what problem do you have with this thread

Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: andreisdaman on April 23, 2018, 12:16:08 PM
When your political party is becoming more and more irrelevant and cartoonish by the day, you make threads like this.

WOW!...and the Republican party is NOT irrelevant and cartoonish???????????????????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: polychronopolous on April 23, 2018, 12:23:08 PM
WOW!...and the Republican party is NOT irrelevant and cartoonish???????????????????????????????????????????????????

You need to get your head out from under Miss Hillary's piss stained moo-moo.

(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/1/3/5/3/7/t9635579-36-thumb-ogl0yu.jpg?d=1482857646)
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: polychronopolous on April 23, 2018, 12:24:08 PM
(http://liberalvaluesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Democratic-Losses.jpg)
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2018, 12:27:26 PM


what again is your problem with a "thread like this"?

It's a great picture of 4 POTUS's and 4 First Ladies all smiling and happy

What possible problem could you have with that ?

Don't be shy

You're the one that has an issue with it so go ahead and tell us what your issue is
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: polychronopolous on April 23, 2018, 12:52:03 PM
what again is your problem with a "thread like this"?

It's a great picture of 4 POTUS's and 4 First Ladies all smiling and happy

What possible problem could you have with that ?

Don't be shy

You're the one that has an issue with it so go ahead and tell us what your issue is

If you are going to quote my post then at least have the decency to add the content.

What an epic LOSER that guy was.

Destroyed your political party.

(http://liberalvaluesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Democratic-Losses.jpg)
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 23, 2018, 12:58:31 PM
If you are going to quote my post then at least have the decency to add the content.

What an epic LOSER that guy was.

Destroyed your political party.

(http://liberalvaluesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Democratic-Losses.jpg)

wonder if the Republicans will suffer under trump..
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2018, 01:01:37 PM
If you are going to quote my post then at least have the decency to add the content.

What an epic LOSER that guy was.

Destroyed your political party.


why should I do that when you don't even have the decency, the honesty or the balls to explain the problem you have with a "thread like this"

3rd time now I've asked you to simply explain your issue with this thread?

Is it possible that you have no problem with it at all but just feel a compelling need to whine like a bitch (just like the POTUS)

If that's not it and you have a genuine issue then what is it?

Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: polychronopolous on April 23, 2018, 01:30:04 PM
wonder if the Republicans will suffer under trump..

My sentiment is they will gain 5 to 8 seats in the Senate and slightly hold onto the House.

Obama's first midterm was akin to Custer sauntering into Little Big Horn.

A complete massacre.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Board_SHERIF on April 23, 2018, 03:15:44 PM
My sentiment is they will gain 5 to 8 seats in the Senate and slightly hold onto the House.

Obama's first midterm was akin to Custer sauntering into Little Big Horn.

A complete massacre.

I hope so but think they will lose seats - Pennsylvania will turn Blue
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2018, 04:31:22 PM
The Dems have no platform, with the DNC lawsuit that opens them up for discovery, the Comey book fail tour with the big dummy implicating himself even with CNN interviewing him, the DNC "wave" just got flushed down the toilet. They have nothing. Not even any money.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 23, 2018, 05:38:00 PM
I didn't realize how tall Michelle was. Isn't Barack over 6' tall?  Anyways, glad they all were able to suck it up and pose for a great picture together.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2018, 05:43:45 PM
I didn't realize how tall Michelle was. Isn't Barack over 6' tall?  Anyways, glad they all were able to suck it up and pose for a great picture together.

It really is a great picture. Sad that George HW is in intensive care today.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 23, 2018, 06:05:21 PM
It really is a great picture. Sad that George HW is in intensive care today.

agree
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: chaos on April 23, 2018, 06:28:10 PM
Melania seems genuinely happy ...maybe because her cheating spouse is not around


Maybe she realizes she's the star of the picture ;)

Threads like this suck. It's like an Anderson cooper hit piece, all fluff, no substance.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
I didn't realize how tall Michelle was. Isn't Barack over 6' tall?  Anyways, glad they all were able to suck it up and pose for a great picture together.

If she's wearing 3" heels, she's likely shorter than 6'. Supposedly, she's 5'11".
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Skeletor on April 23, 2018, 06:47:36 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=644844.0;attach=759589;image)

Only GW Bush looks solemn in this picture. GHW is too old so I can't tell if his expression reflects his feelings. All the others smile like it's some festive social gathering.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2018, 07:20:28 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=644844.0;attach=759589;image)

Only GW Bush looks solemn in this picture. GHW is too old so I can't tell if his expression reflects his feelings. All the others smile like it's some festive social gathering.

Perhaps it is a somewhat festive occasion. Sometimes, when a person has been ill for a longtime, their blessing is that they are free of all the illness and suffering. My wife wanted me to throw a party when she died. I didn't. I regret that when it came down to it, I caved and went with tradition for the sake her family and friends. Like Barbara Bush, my wife made a decision to stop all medical assistance keeping her alive and extending her pain and suffering. When my time comes, I hope and will be as brave as she was.

It could also be because of tradition that everyone in this photo is smiling. It's what we are expected to do when having our photo taken.  Can you imagine a group of people drawn together for a photograph, weeping and mournful appearing. It would be absolutely weird.

To my way of thinking, photographs after services or at memorials are totally inappropriate. Folks are already conflicted enough and shouldn't have to put their emotions on display.

On a much lighter note, Hilary is a shrimp as compared to the rest of the group. Maybe she wore flats.  :)

Just an observation, but Trump's being absent seems specially off to me. All these folks are accustomed to the fervor involved when protective services are required. In my opinion Trump using this as reason to not attend is garbage and definitely in very poor form, although hardly a surprise, considering.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 23, 2018, 07:38:37 PM
If you are going to quote my post then at least have the decency to add the content.

What an epic LOSER that guy was.

Destroyed your political party.

(http://liberalvaluesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Democratic-Losses.jpg)

From fivethirtyeight

“The Democratic Party is at its lowest point in my lifetime,” said Mark Longabaugh, a senior strategist on Bernie Sanders’s campaign. “I don’t know how you walk away from that fact.”

But the Democrats’ diminished power can’t be pinned entirely — or even mostly — on Obama. The number of congressional seats lost during his tenure is high but in line with what other two-term presidents have experienced. Where the party has ceded an extraordinary degree of its power is in state legislatures and governor’s mansions. If the blame for Democrats’ ebbing power fell squarely at Obama’s feet, the party’s losses in federal offices would likely be much more acute, matching the dramatic changes at the state level.

It matters, too, how the Democrats’ losses during Obama’s tenure are counted. Most analyses compare the number of seats Democrats held after the 2008 elections to those they held after 2016. But Obama’s 2008 election saw a surge of down-ballot Democratic wins, which makes the slide look that much more precipitous. If you compare the number of Democratic seats held after the 2006 midterms, prior to Obama’s election, with the number held after 2016, when he was off the ticket — as the Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein has suggested — the loss of state-level seats is closer to the norm."
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2018, 07:40:23 PM
This thread has been officially derailed. What a pity.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 23, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
Perhaps it is a somewhat festive occasion. Sometimes, when a person has been ill for a longtime, their blessing is that they are free of all the illness and suffering. My wife wanted me to throw a party when she died. I didn't. I regret that when it came down to it, I caved and went with tradition for the sake her family and friends. Like Barbara Bush, my wife made a decision to stop all medical assistance keeping her alive and extending her pain and suffering. When my time comes, I hope and will be as brave as she was.

It could also be because of tradition that everyone in this photo is smiling. It's what we are expected to do when having our photo taken.  Can you imagine a group of people drawn together for a photograph, weeping and mournful appearing. It would be absolutely weird.

To my way of thinking, photographs after services or at memorials are totally inappropriate. Folks are already conflicted enough and shouldn't have to put their emotions on display.

On a much lighter note, Hilary is a shrimp as compared to the rest of the group. Maybe she wore flats.  :)

Just an observation, but Trump's being absent seems specially off to me. All these folks are accustomed to the fervor involved when protective services are required. In my opinion Trump using this as reason to not attend is garbage and definitely in very poor form, although hardly a surprise, considering.

Sorry about your wife. Can't imagine
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Straw Man on April 23, 2018, 08:45:47 PM
I didn't realize how tall Michelle was. Isn't Barack over 6' tall?  Anyways, glad they all were able to suck it up and pose for a great picture together.

It looks like Michelle is wearing high heals

I don't think any of them have to "suck it up" at all.   They all probably get along just fine, probably more than fine. 

and I agree with you that it is a great picture
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: mazrim on April 24, 2018, 06:31:45 AM


Just an observation, but Trump's being absent seems specially off to me. All these folks are accustomed to the fervor involved when protective services are required. In my opinion Trump using this as reason to not attend is garbage and definitely in very poor form, although hardly a surprise, considering.
Nope. You would have said the same thing about him going when the spotlight would have been on him and his relationship with the Bushs. Good and respectful move by Trump to avoid any of that. Garbage opinion but hardly a surprise.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 24, 2018, 09:42:08 AM
Nope. You would have said the same thing about him going when the spotlight would have been on him and his relationship with the Bushs. Good and respectful move by Trump to avoid any of that. Garbage opinion but hardly a surprise.

In this case I think Trump was between a rock and a hard place. It is true other presidents have not gone to a former 1st ladies funeral. Others have gone so the protocol would be it is optional. I have no issue with him not going. His reasoning is BS though. I don't blame him for making an excuse, I just don't buy it. He had to give a reason and the truth is, he didn't get along with the Bushes and has been derogatory towards them. To "show respect" at this stage would be meaningless. But for a person who his admirers claims "tells it like it is", I don't think he did. with him always being honest and straightforward, I would have expected him to say "In light of Mrs. Bush's opinion of me, and mine of her and her husband and sons, I didn't feel attending was the right thing to do. "
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: polychronopolous on April 24, 2018, 09:43:07 AM
From fivethirtyeight

“The Democratic Party is at its lowest point in my lifetime,” said Mark Longabaugh, a senior strategist on Bernie Sanders’s campaign. “I don’t know how you walk away from that fact.”

But the Democrats’ diminished power can’t be pinned entirely — or even mostly — on Obama. The number of congressional seats lost during his tenure is high but in line with what other two-term presidents have experienced. Where the party has ceded an extraordinary degree of its power is in state legislatures and governor’s mansions. If the blame for Democrats’ ebbing power fell squarely at Obama’s feet, the party’s losses in federal offices would likely be much more acute, matching the dramatic changes at the state level.

It matters, too, how the Democrats’ losses during Obama’s tenure are counted. Most analyses compare the number of seats Democrats held after the 2008 elections to those they held after 2016. But Obama’s 2008 election saw a surge of down-ballot Democratic wins, which makes the slide look that much more precipitous. If you compare the number of Democratic seats held after the 2006 midterms, prior to Obama’s election, with the number held after 2016, when he was off the ticket — as the Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein has suggested — the loss of state-level seats is closer to the norm."

Yeah, the people were willing to give the "First Black President" a chance and he was completely inept.

And 2 years later the people got the "Change" that they felt necessary.

As much as the ass kissing media try to cover up for this guy, it doesn't change the fact that he was a horrible leader.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 24, 2018, 09:58:52 AM
Yeah, the people were willing to give the "First Black President" a chance and he was completely inept.

And 2 years later the people got the "Change" that they felt necessary.

As much as the ass kissing media try to cover up for this guy, it doesn't change the fact that he was a horrible leader.

I don't think he was horrible. Most people don't. I do think on the positive side, he treated the office of the President with the respect and decorum it deserved. He projected a level headed thoughtful person. There are other positive attributes and accomplishments that possessed and achieved.  Part of his roadblock was Congress' republican partisanship goal of not cooperating with him on anything. Some of it I'm sure was because they didn't agree with it, but part of it also was that he was a democrat. We are seeing that on the other foot now. In this case though the Republicans are the majority in both houses. But Obama also is to blame for many of the failures and decisions. When it was found out that military style long rifles were being allowed to be sold and transported across the border, resulting in the death of an agent, Eric Holder should have been fired. He took a gamble, it failed miserably and he should have been held accountable. He was too quick to side with BLM and didn't achieve the balance of recognizing there are racial issues but there are also good police officers enforcing the law. He said it on occasion but the effort I felt was in backing up blacks to the detriment  of Law Enforcement. He did nothing for tax reform. Something that is a hot button issue for me and many others. I also felt he just coasted in his last 18 months. He seemed to be happy just waiting out the rest of his term.     
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Straw Man on April 24, 2018, 10:53:02 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=644844.0;attach=759589;image)

Only GW Bush looks solemn in this picture. GHW is too old so I can't tell if his expression reflects his feelings. All the others smile like it's some festive social gathering.

I don't think GW looks solemn at all

It looks to me like everyone is smiling and genuinely smiling
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Straw Man on April 24, 2018, 10:54:04 AM
This thread has been officially derailed. What a pity.

and still no explanation from poly about his issue with "a thread like this"

Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Beefjake on April 24, 2018, 12:00:00 PM
Melania seems genuinely happy ...maybe because her cheating spouse is not around
Not hers anyway...
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Straw Man on April 24, 2018, 12:36:43 PM
Not hers anyway...

That's OK

We know adultery is not an issue for Republicans anymore

Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 24, 2018, 01:31:25 PM
I don't think GW looks solemn at all

It looks to me like everyone is smiling and genuinely smiling
''Can't wait for the X-men movie to come out
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: mazrim on April 24, 2018, 02:04:23 PM
In this case I think Trump was between a rock and a hard place. It is true other presidents have not gone to a former 1st ladies funeral. Others have gone so the protocol would be it is optional. I have no issue with him not going. His reasoning is BS though. I don't blame him for making an excuse, I just don't buy it. He had to give a reason and the truth is, he didn't get along with the Bushes and has been derogatory towards them. To "show respect" at this stage would be meaningless. But for a person who his admirers claims "tells it like it is", I don't think he did. with him always being honest and straightforward, I would have expected him to say "In light of Mrs. Bush's opinion of me, and mine of her and her husband and sons, I didn't feel attending was the right thing to do. "
And that would have been the whole story if he had said that completely overshadowing her funeral, imo.

Personally, I believe they all would have been fine but the media would have made a big deal of it as they always do so better to just avoid it all.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 24, 2018, 05:25:58 PM
And that would have been the whole story if he had said that completely overshadowing her funeral, imo.

Personally, I believe they all would have been fine but the media would have made a big deal of it as they always do so better to just avoid it all.

probably right.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: chaos on April 24, 2018, 05:54:44 PM
I don't think he was horrible. Most people don't. I do think on the positive side, he treated the office of the President with the respect and decorum it deserved. He projected a level headed thoughtful person. There are other positive attributes and accomplishments that possessed and achieved.    
Stopped reading here. Have to disagree.
Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Straw Man on April 24, 2018, 05:56:12 PM
In this case I think Trump was between a rock and a hard place. It is true other presidents have not gone to a former 1st ladies funeral. Others have gone so the protocol would be it is optional. I have no issue with him not going. His reasoning is BS though. I don't blame him for making an excuse, I just don't buy it. He had to give a reason and the truth is, he didn't get along with the Bushes and has been derogatory towards them. To "show respect" at this stage would be meaningless. But for a person who his admirers claims "tells it like it is", I don't think he did. with him always being honest and straightforward, I would have expected him to say "In light of Mrs. Bush's opinion of me, and mine of her and her husband and sons, I didn't feel attending was the right thing to do. "

It's generous for you to assume that Trump does anything based on any kind of reasoning

gut level emotional response is all I've ever seen from him

Title: Re: Great Picture
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 24, 2018, 05:58:32 PM
Stopped reading here. Have to disagree.

I assumed when I wrote it you wouldn't even get that far before replying.  :)