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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Danimal77 on April 27, 2018, 03:02:10 PM
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Did Dorian actually improve on his 1993 Mr. Olympia physique? We know he tore his biceps before the 1994 Mr. O and and later tore his triceps and quad. People critique his 1994 physique and he was smaller and flatter in 1996. 1997 was by far his worst physique, so was 1995 an improvement or a decline from his 1993 physique?
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If his arm wasn't messed up from 94, I'd say 95 would have been his peak. But it was so 93 was his peak. I thought he was around 255 in 95 and 257 in 93.
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93 his waistline was a bit tighter, but for some reason 95 seems to flow better.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=230956.0;attach=270987;image)
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I prefer 1993 and I don't think he improved since 1993 in my opinion. Some may say he was a tad better conditioned in 1995 and I mean slightly and with the torn bicep, but the torn bicep is the deciding factor for me. He didn't improve any where else. Same weight for both years.
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Did Dorian actually improve on his 1993 Mr. Olympia physique? We know he tore his biceps before the 1994 Mr. O and and later tore his triceps and quad. People critique his 1994 physique and he was smaller and flatter in 1996. 1997 was by far his worst physique, so was 1995 an improvement or a decline from his 1993 physique?
Taking a break from sabotaging your ex-girlfriend’s life?
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Same weight for both years.
Not accurate.
According to the magazines in 1995 He was 255lbs , according to Lee Haney who emceed the 1995 Olympia he was 260lbs
1995 he appeared fuller while having an edge in conditioning , besides the biceps it's splitting hairs between the two contests.
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1993 he looked insane but he did gain some size in the coming years. 1993 might be his best in terms of conditioning.
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Taking a break from sabotaging your ex-girlfriend’s life?
;D
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Don't you people get bored with having the same debates and threads again and again??
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Not accurate.
According to the magazines in 1995 He was 255lbs , according to Lee Haney who emceed the 1995 Olympia he was 260lbs
Two confusing sources of 255 lbs and 260 lbs. So, I guess 257 lbs is right in between just like 1993 ;D
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Don't you people get bored with having the same debates and threads again and again??
That’s like asking if schmoes get tired of bbers in white towels?
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Don't you people get bored with having the same debates and threads again and again??
It’s the Groundhog Day version of the Dorian vs Ronnie “Truce” thread
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That’s like asking if schmoes get tired of bbers in white towels?
:-X ;D
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:-X ;D
:D
I’m sure someone took that towel home as a souvenir as soon as Mr Levrone threw it in the laundry basket after his warm shower
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Not accurate.
According to the magazines in 1995 He was 255lbs , according to Lee Haney who emceed the 1995 Olympia he was 260lbs
1995 he appeared fuller while having an edge in conditioning , besides the biceps it's splitting hairs between the two contests.
And he weighed 256-257 pounds in 1993. Both weights have been listed for him. What did he weigh in 1994? I know he was 256 or 257 pounds in 1996 and 268 or 269 pounds in 1997.
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And he weighed 256-257 pounds in 1993. Both weights have been listed for him. What did he weigh in 1994? I know he was 256 or 257 pounds in 1996 and 268 or 269 pounds in 1997.
262 in 1994
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262 in 1994
So he was heavier in 1994 than 1993, even with the torn bicep. So where were those extra 5 to 6 pounds?
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Dorian was pretty big in '94. Certainly conceivable that he weighed more.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ghCU_strubg/UvHt_rgLDXI/AAAAAAAAzmk/2DovsfW-hj0/s1600/1994+Olympia+Dorian+Yates+03.jpg)
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Dorian was pretty big in '94. Certainly conceivable that he weighed more.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ghCU_strubg/UvHt_rgLDXI/AAAAAAAAzmk/2DovsfW-hj0/s1600/1994+Olympia+Dorian+Yates+03.jpg)
I don't understand the criticism for his 1994 physique. Aside from the torn bicep I think he looks great.
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His colour was way off at the finals and those are the pics most people see. Prejudging it is pretty obvious that he was the one to win.
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His colour was way off at the finals and those are the pics most people see. Prejudging it is pretty obvious that he was the one to win.
I think he deserved to win up until and including 1995. Past that, well a case can be made for guys like Nasser and Shawn Ray.
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At his worst, he wins the ab/thigh pose, side tri, front lat spread and rear lat spread and he dominates the quarter turns.
That leaves the door open for only the fdb, most musc, side chest and back double bi. At his best he's no slouch in these shots.
Very deserving of each and every one of his crowns.
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We will always ask if in 1994 Dorian would have been better than in 1993, without that biceps injury ( july 12, 1994).
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If someone can dig out his routine from 1996 german grand prix its just a freakazoid act by man. Best ive seen him. And thats post bi tear!
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=644927.0
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I Think the sport of bodybuilding peaked in 93 along with Dorian, after that show his injuries and waist stopped him beating that shape ever again, he was still good enough to win the other shows, but the physique in 93 goes down as the best we have ever seen. Ronnie outmuscled him at his best but never displayed the overall balance and shape of Dorian 93. Nowadays structure and symmetry don't count as much as they did previously its all about size and Big Rons era brought about that change, im not saying Heath is not the best today he is, but structurally he is well off his predecessors especially Yates, Haney, Arnold, even Zane. Size he dwarfs them except for Yates. But it wasn't always just all about size and its a shame the criteria has changed so much allowing a whole heap of guys with genetic imperfections overcompensate with dose related size, making the sport almost impossible to consider to any health conscious individual.
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I Think the sport of bodybuilding peaked in 93 along with Dorian, after that show his injuries and waist stopped him beating that shape ever again, he was still good enough to win the other shows, but the physique in 93 goes down as the best we have ever seen. Ronnie outmuscled him at his best but never displayed the overall balance and shape of Dorian 93. Nowadays structure and symmetry don't count as much as they did previously its all about size and Big Rons era brought about that change, im not saying Heath is not the best today he is, but structurally he is well off his predecessors especially Yates, Haney, Arnold, even Zane. Size he dwarfs them except for Yates. But it wasn't always just all about size and its a shame the criteria has changed so much allowing a whole heap of guys with genetic imperfections overcompensate with dose related size, making the sport almost impossible to consider to any health conscious individual.
I'd say the sport peaked in 1998. You had guys like Ronnie, Nasser, Levrone, Ray, Cormier, Wheeler and Priest. Great lineup and all of them had mass but not bloated messes with GH/insulin guts and smooth muscles. It was just at the cusp of where oil was being introduced but not yet overused by the competitors, with exception to Ernie Taylor.
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NO.
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His colour was way off at the finals and those are the pics most people see. Prejudging it is pretty obvious that he was the one to win.
Detroit, eh?
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How did Yates tear his biceps?
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He tore it doing reverse barbell rows...
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How did he tear his tricep?
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How did he tear his tricep?
His elbow was bothering him for a long time so he was taking a pain killer for 2 years that was very hard on the system and very catabolic. He ended up tearing the tendon nearly completely off only about a month before the 1997 Olympia. He talks about in detail in this interview at the 1:28:00 mark - http://bodybuildinglegendsshow.com/video-gallery/?vid=vidUhjsxy
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Yes I Believe he maxed out his body at around 1993
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Yes I Believe he maxed out his body at around 1993
Precontest 1995
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Precontest 1995
I thought that pic was from 92 or thereabouts, he looks a lot younger. One of his best shots.
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I thought that pic was from 92 or thereabouts, he looks a lot younger. One of his best shots.
Kevin Horton posted that on Bodybuilding.com 1995 precontest for the Olympia he was 283lbs in this picture
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1993 mm
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If someone can dig out his routine from 1996 german grand prix its just a freakazoid act by man. Best ive seen him. And thats post bi tear!
definitely his best
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If someone can dig out his routine from 1996 german grand prix its just a freakazoid act by man. Best ive seen him. And thats post bi tear!
I included that clip in my interview with Dorian. It's at the 1:09:00 part of the interview - http://bodybuildinglegendsshow.com/video-gallery?vid=vidUhjsxy