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Interesting interview, at around 58:00min mark he talks about his steroid use. Epic genetics only only 4 Dbol tabs.
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Interesting interview, at around 58:00min mark he talks about his steroid use. Epic genetics only only 4 Dbol tabs.
jeesus christ, that waist has to be photoshopped?
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Take a look at Jean Pierre Fux's IG, the post with a young JP. Epic dbol dosage.
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Take a look at Jean Pierre Fux's IG, the post with a young JP. Epic dbol dosage.
he speaks about real dbol, not the thailand shit. Years ago i had access to real russian dbol (akrihin) and 10mg was more than enough, over 20mg it was unbearable.
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he speaks about real dbol, not the thailand shit. Years ago i had access to real russian dbol (akrihin) and 10mg was more than enough, over 20mg it was unbearable.
That's bullshit. I used maybe 10k tabs of Akrihin along with many other pharma dbols, e.g Naposim, Bionabol, Metanabol, Pronabol etc. Nothing special about them. Akrihin was the first anabolic I used and it was great - of course it was, I was drug naive.
Thai dbols were every bit as potent, both the British Disp. and the Acdhon Methandon.
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He used the original and the best CIBA D-Bol.
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The real Dianabol was sick strong. Taking 4 was a lot. Just like the real Anadrol 50. Anyone taking 3 of Anadrol 50 was accused of having a death wish. This new drugs labeled Dianabol is just crap. I even wonder where this counterfeit stuff is made? Sure looks real with it's boxes and inserts but the stuff is garbage judging by the results of guys that take doses that would kill someone with the original stuff.
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The real Dianabol was sick strong. Taking 4 was a lot. Just like the real Anadrol 50. Anyone taking 3 of Anadrol 50 was accused of having a death wish. This new drugs labeled Dianabol is just crap. I even wonder where this counterfeit stuff is made? Sure looks real with it's boxes and inserts but the stuff is garbage judging by the results of guys that take doses that would kill someone with the original stuff.
Medical doses for anadrol much higher then Bbing doses. They may have been overdosing the product back then moreso then underdosing nowadays (if what you are claiming was true) as there have been lots of brands testing as what is claimed or slightly over.
Or younger = better results
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Weird dude, speaks in his book about missing big WWWF paydays because of shoe/sneaker/foot fetish.
Would pay chicks to walk on him with sneakers on and other weird stuff. Missed WWWF house shows (paydays) because of it.
Then of course got hooked on crack and was homeless post WWF. He did beat that addiction at least.
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The real Dianabol was sick strong. Taking 4 was a lot. Just like the real Anadrol 50. Anyone taking 3 of Anadrol 50 was accused of having a death wish. This new drugs labeled Dianabol is just crap. I even wonder where this counterfeit stuff is made? Sure looks real with it's boxes and inserts but the stuff is garbage judging by the results of guys that take doses that would kill someone with the original stuff.
Mentzer stack was supposedly 5 of those a day and 200 mg of deca per week
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Mentzer stack was supposedly 5 of those a day and 200 mg of deca per week
Do you mean Mentzer or Meltzer?
I'm just trying to keep this wrestling related.
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Absolute foolishness in this thread. People thinking somehow methandienone is somehow different today from 25-30yrs ago. Same with anadrol. Seems some people have never heard ofbgoofke, where you can easily find that anadrol is prescribed to children, in poor health & anemic, at 300+mg/day for a minimum of 6 months.
... And somehow bodybuilders in comparatively good health are led to believe 150 ml mg for a little over a month is akin to a death wish.
Its almost as if people have absolutely no common sense and make no effort to research basic things, such as recommended doses by medical professionals
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I actually used real Dianabol once and used to have Anadrol available to me too but never used it. Was friends with a guy who gained 30 pounds of a bottle. I know in reality it's all supposed to be the same but sure didn't seem like it back then.
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jeesus christ, that waist has to be photoshopped?
It’s prob not pictures that old are scanned or a picture of a picture both not easy to photo shop
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jeesus christ, that waist has to be photoshopped?
Apparently not:
www.wwe.com/shows/raw/tony-atlas-bodybuilding-photos#fid-26153786
Good genetics
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Medical doses for anadrol much higher then Bbing doses. They may have been overdosing the product back then moreso then underdosing nowadays (if what you are claiming was true) as there have been lots of brands testing as what is claimed or slightly over.
Or younger = better results
Do you trust results of testing of illegal steroids that are posted on the internet? Back in the early 1980 I've seen guys have sick results with one Anadrol 50 pill a day. I've seen the whites of guys eyes turn yellow who were taking two. Now who ever is making this counterfeit crap have guys taking 5 Anadrol 50 and 10 dianabols who just gain bloated muscles. It's not the real stuff.
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Do you trust results of testing of illegal steroids that are posted on the internet? Back in the early 1980 I've seen guys have sick results with one Anadrol 50 pill a day. I've seen the whites of guys eyes turn yellow who were taking two. Now who ever is making this counterfeit crap have guys taking 5 Anadrol 50 and 10 dianabols who just gain bloated muscles. It's not the real stuff.
That may be true, but why the fuck would they do that?
It's not like making counterfit shit is gonna make them that much more money
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Weird dude, speaks in his book about missing big WWWF paydays because of shoe/sneaker/foot fetish.
Would pay chicks to walk on him with sneakers on and other weird stuff. Missed WWWF house shows (paydays) because of it.
Then of course got hooked on crack and was homeless post WWF. He did beat that addiction at least.
yeah he would pay girls a hundred dollars to stomp on his face with their boots
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20 years ago I took 20mgs of anabol over 40 days and went from 220-260.Shit was crazy strong.
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Do you trust results of testing of illegal steroids that are posted on the internet? Back in the early 1980 I've seen guys have sick results with one Anadrol 50 pill a day. I've seen the whites of guys eyes turn yellow who were taking two. Now who ever is making this counterfeit crap have guys taking 5 Anadrol 50 and 10 dianabols who just gain bloated muscles. It's not the real stuff.
The only thing you know about gear is what you've read on the internet so stop acting like some expert and STFU.
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20 years ago I took 20mgs of anabol over 40 days and went from 220-260.Shit was crazy strong.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with increased calorie consumption and water retention. To the extent you gained any tissue at all it was a tiny fraction of the 40 pounds you gained in the scale.
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I'm sure it had nothing to do with increased calorie consumption and water retention. To the extent you gained any tissue at all it was a tiny fraction of the 40 pounds you gained in the scale.
No shit Sherlock,very observant aren’t we?Just saying what it did,saying that 20 years ago the dbol was pretty good.i know guys now taking 50-100 mgs and gaining maybe 10 lbs in 6 weeks.also when I stopped no pct and only lost about 3-4 lbs.
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No shit Sherlock,very observant aren’t we?Just saying what it did,saying that 20 years ago the dbol was pretty good.i know guys now taking 50-100 mgs and gaining maybe 10 lbs in 6 weeks.also when I stopped no pct and only lost about 3-4 lbs.
So you're saying you gained 35 plus pounds of what?
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Do you trust results of testing of illegal steroids that are posted on the internet? Back in the early 1980 I've seen guys have sick results with one Anadrol 50 pill a day. I've seen the whites of guys eyes turn yellow who were taking two. Now who ever is making this counterfeit crap have guys taking 5 Anadrol 50 and 10 dianabols who just gain bloated muscles. It's not the real stuff.
Carl Lewis, is that you?
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So you're saying you gained 35 plus pounds of what?
Fat,water and muscle.I don’t know I didn’t break it down.I stayed much stronger and I was happy with it.another getbig asshole who likes to pick arguments as they sit in their parents basement.go argue with someone who gives a fuck.
Once again stating my experience with low dose dbol and it did what it was supposed to.
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Do you trust results of testing of illegal steroids that are posted on the internet? Back in the early 1980 I've seen guys have sick results with one Anadrol 50 pill a day.
They weren't taking one a day...jesus christ, you fucking boomers are delusional.
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Fat,water and muscle.I don’t know I didn’t break it down.I stayed much stronger and I was happy with it.another getbig asshole who likes to pick arguments as they sit in their parents basement.go argue with someone who gives a fuck.
Once again stating my experience with low dose dbol and it did what it was supposed to.
You have no idea how dumb you sound. That is the funniest part.
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Do you trust results of testing of illegal steroids that are posted on the internet? Back in the early 1980 I've seen guys have sick results with one Anadrol 50 pill a day. I've seen the whites of guys eyes turn yellow who were taking two. Now who ever is making this counterfeit crap have guys taking 5 Anadrol 50 and 10 dianabols who just gain bloated muscles. It's not the real stuff.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
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Absolute foolishness in this thread. People thinking somehow methandienone is somehow different today from 25-30yrs ago.
thank you
its a simple chemical compound
old timers love to say stupid shit like that - British dragon is good as the russian stuff
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I actually used real Dianabol once and used to have Anadrol available to me too but never used it. Was friends with a guy who gained 30 pounds of a bottle. I know in reality it's all supposed to be the same but sure didn't seem like it back then.
I did the real deal dbol when i was in my teens. I did 25mg with two amps of sustanon aweek and i gained a shitload. My bench went up 100 lbs. And i gained 30 lbs of weight. It was russian methandrostenolone blisters. Very potent!
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No shit Sherlock,very observant aren’t we?Just saying what it did,saying that 20 years ago the dbol was pretty good.i know guys now taking 50-100 mgs and gaining maybe 10 lbs in 6 weeks.also when I stopped no pct and only lost about 3-4 lbs.
That's because you were a virgin too it. First cycle i did I blew up 30 pounds. Thai dbol and one sustanon amp a week.
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You can get real gear easy it's simple after your first few cycles gains slow down your body gets use to it. People think they are going to gain 20 pounds every time they take dbol lol.
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I've seen the whites of guys eyes turn yellow who were taking two.
As posted, sounds more like they were inaccurate with doseages back then as the medical usage is higher then that or weak systems by those taking it.
Yes, I do trust the results depending on who is doing the testing.
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You can get real gear easy it's simple after your first few cycles gains slow down your body gets use to it. People think they are going to gain 20 pounds every time they take dbol lol.
Yes exactly and I've made this point so many times over the years. Not only do gains slow down as you do more cycles but people age! Twenty years down the road you will not respond the same. Even response to protein becomes worse as you age as studies show!
But people like oldtimer1, who doesn't even use drugs, continue to confidently claim that there are no "real" drugs on the market. I remember he said it's all crude testosterone at best Lol. It's riduculous, not the least because black market drugs have repeatedly been tested by the authorities after customs and domestic busts.
At the same time people report different responses to different makes of the same legit prescribed drug. Some prefer a certain brand of generic drug. The reasons for this could be several things. Even something like pill shape and color affect drug response as shown by studies - it's a kind of placebo that we are all affected by.
But if someone thinks all black market drugs are crap compared to what was available decades ago go watch pumping iron. Then watch some clips of current pros. The difference in physiques is extremely dramatic and you'd think the oldtimers were the ones using fakes Lol.
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Interesting interview, at around 58:00min mark he talks about his steroid use. Epic genetics only only 4 Dbol tabs.
Awesome genetics but absolute bullshit lol
Why is the go to bullshit answer ALWAYS "a few dbols" lol
Not saying he was on grams of gear but the sniffing a dbol once a fortnight shit is always rediculous to me
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Nowadays, you can procure extremely clean powders from China and cook yourself. I've done it. But a lot of guys here are forgetting how you respond in your 20's and 50's is quite a bit different.
I'll just give you three facts:
1. Estrogen metabolism is different. More test is converted to estrogen as you age
2. Myostatin levels are lower in young vs old people
3. Myostatin is significantly increased as a response of AAS usage
Drugs are jut drugs. What changes is our response, perhaps perception of one over time.
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also, I used pharma grade test e. from Galenika recently (over the counter pharmacy sale in the Balkans) and my response sucks now that I am in my 40's
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I use some stuff i get in amps from iran. It does its job. But i dont care for competing anymore. Just live a regular life and have a superdick for my wife. So only trt now which translates to 250mg aweek.
But one should not disregard the underground stuff that easy. When i went back to bb in 2015 i found very good labs and got tren, test, dbol and gh that transformerd my into the same beast a was when competing.
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I use some stuff i get in amps from iran. It does its job. But i dont care for competing anymore. Just live a regular life and have a superdick for my wife. So only trt now which translates to 250mg aweek.
But one should not disregard the underground stuff that easy. When i went back to bb in 2015 i found very good labs and got tren, test, dbol and gh that transformerd my into the same beast a was when competing.
250 a week for trt? Bayer amps?
What is your test level at that dose? Replacement is just that and levels should be within the normal range.
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All those old guys at pro level were high as fuck. Bill Starr in his book, "Defying Gravity" threw this out. Really good book by the way, well worth the read, covers mostly old school meet prep -
"The late sixties saw an explosion of the drug culture across the nation, and the influx of all types of pharmaceuticals into the sport of weightlifting closely coincided with the national trend. The use of drugs in weightlifting became a Pandora's box. Once it was opened, there was no stopping the rampant use.
Step one was usually the steroids. Next the lifters became acquainted with amphetamines to increase performance on platform, barbiturates to insure adequate rest before a contest, muscle relaxants following a hard workout or contest. This often gravitated to the "recreational drugs": marijuana, acid, THC, mescaline, and on and on through the PDR and even a few not listed. Doctor Zeigler was the first medical person in the country to publically condemn this drug overdosing. But it was too late. Once a lifter had used steroids to get stronger and uppers to lift better, there was little chance of turning back.
Overdosing became the order of the day. If 20 mgs. of D-bol a day put 5% on a total, then wouldn't 50 or 100 mgs. produce 10 or 15% gains? Such was the logic. Instead of one upper for a meet, an unsure athlete would drop three, or four, or would you believe 30?"
"Goon Juice - The uppers were abused most often, or at least the overdosing was the most visible. In 1966, there was a liquid form of amphetamine available called syndrox. It was nicknamed "Goon juice" and aptly so. The recommended dosage was one capful of the
fluid (which tasted much like cough medicine). This was the equivalent of 20-30 mgs. of amphetamines and that's a lot of cups of coffee. No one ever settled for one capful, however. After 45 minutes to an hour the initial rush had worn off and the lifter would feel a let-down. Back to the bottle for more juice.
Another hour, another letdown (relatively speaking of course), another hit and it was off to Loo-Loo Land. Lifters would stalk the warm-up area shouting, cursing, screaming. Some would appear deranged, their pupils the size of quarters, their mouths so dry they couldn't spit on a bet. Some formerly mild-mannered types would Jekyll-and-Hyde-out and become complete, raving idiots both on and off platform. Super Circus. Some lifters stayed awake for days following a contest. My first introduction to goon juice was a nightmare. I used it at the Philly Open in 1967, my first big Eastern competition. I lifted better than I had ever done, placing second behind Frank Capsouras. I was very pleased with myself until I got half way back to York. While sitting in the back seat I began cramping. These were not everyday, garden variety-type cramps as I usually experienced, but severe ones that took my breath away. Not only did every major muscle group lock up, such as my lumbars, quads, and traps, but every minor group got in the act. My abs, fingers, toes, behind my ears, even small muscles in my face began to cramp. I stayed in a painful sweat for over an hour. I had shot my potassium level all to hell and threw my electrolyte balance out of wack. I had put my body in an extremely dangerous position. I wasn't too far from having my heart muscle cramp, and that would have been bye-bye Billy.
What really amazes me when I look back at some of the severe drug abuse by so many top lifters in those days is that someone did
not get killed. I can say that some gave it their best shot."
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I did the real deal dbol when i was in my teens. I did 25mg with two amps of sustanon aweek and i gained a shitload. My bench went up 100 lbs. And i gained 30 lbs of weight. It was russian methandrostenolone blisters. Very potent!
X2 with regard to the Russian methandrostenolone blisters with the light-blue Russian language packaging. Great stuff that flooded the market after the fall of the Iron Curtain.
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amphetamines = amazing definition seen in the 80's and 90's
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I use some stuff i get in amps from iran. It does its job. But i dont care for competing anymore. Just live a regular life and have a superdick for my wife. So only trt now which translates to 250mg aweek.
But one should not disregard the underground stuff that easy. When i went back to bb in 2015 i found very good labs and got tren, test, dbol and gh that transformerd my into the same beast a was when competing.
My "natural" test levels @re about as low as you'll ever find (<80) & 200mg every 2 weeks put me at 1200-1400ng/dl 2 days after the injection, & down to 700-750 by day 13-14 post injection. So 250mg/wk is double what "normal" Dr. prescribed HRT would be.
*btw, I heard Jerry's "definition" of what HRT/TRT is and anytime you replace a hormone, be it testosterone alone, or test plus thyroid (in my case) & gh, it's ALL HRT. You can all it "TRT" if you like... If you're just using test, or you can call it "HRT" if you like.
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Real trt is 125 mg week MAX
Some even dose as low as 60 mg a week depending on bloods
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You have no idea how dumb you sound. That is the funniest part.
Yeah I sound real dumb stating my experience and opinion.Type away in your parents basement pal.
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Nowadays, you can procure extremely clean powders from China and cook yourself. I've done it. But a lot of guys here are forgetting how you respond in your 20's and 50's is quite a bit different.
I'll just give you three facts:
1. Estrogen metabolism is different. More test is converted to estrogen as you age
2. Myostatin levels are lower in young vs old people
3. Myostatin is significantly increased as a response of AAS usage
Drugs are jut drugs. What changes is our response, perhaps perception of one over time.
From what I’ve seen it’s the older guys that respond much better than the younger guys.I know a lot of guys late 40s to late 50s who are jacked as fuck and all the 20somethings don’t look anywhere as good.
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Real trt is 125 mg week MAX
Some even dose as low as 60 mg a week depending on bloods
my buddy is on TRT around that dose 100mg a week etc etc
bloods reflect 1000 level for test - he is an engineer type so he had to tweek it to get it correct