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Title: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on May 09, 2018, 05:46:19 AM
Tim Belknap gets a lot of heat...but the guy looks fucking incredible. People always talking about the early shorter thick Mesomorph monsters like Mentzer and Viator. But Belknap seems to be forgotten about. Yes....he came a half decade later but the guy looked awesome. Especially in the mid-80's with his NABBA wins.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: mphgrove on May 09, 2018, 05:57:47 AM
Yes!! Someone please open this one up. Phenomenal.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tim+belknap+photos&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=inv&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&fir=iqPA81JLSI1RlM%253A%252CUD5kZF5NuvnR7M%252C_%253BpidhWfNwm1quVM%253A%252Ctqelbsc0cQSk-M%252C_%253BebXAYHrMeLq6oM%253A%252CG8NWUh5e5-S1KM%252C_%253BX6d4VE8cnlD3vM%253A%252CuRdmou1ewU7ypM%252C_%253B-U16lWsLrmdHtM%253A%252C0qKPfCi7gVT1MM%252C_%253BBBaIcSneBAigsM%253A%252CeN-5g0NKCmqJfM%252C_%253B-ip_sa8i5a3OFM%253A%252Cp1iFUwUfmIu-nM%252C_%253BXnA9qhQ2NiJAzM%253A%252CG8NWUh5e5-S1KM%252C_%253BjHVGAhtmLpv-iM%253A%252CC_tq4ICiQBmgoM%252C_%253Bn5DgXONp2lhH_M%253A%252CPVRaS16-nmamxM%252C_%253BR7IFvFqEj3qW8M%253A%252C1oqz4vS7Lnu-qM%252C_%253B5RSaooTsJMTenM%253A%252Ct6-nRKlxdyTPvM%252C_%253BxavVdBY2O3Q8nM%253A%252CuU3umBgUsIT-RM%252C_%253BPiOnaQECeAvhQM%253A%252CC3KRrRwjNs2xMM%252C_&usg=__l2OeWE7Sqh0vG2CcXsLie9KzD0w%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYqPPV1vjaAhVhiOAKHXsNCZMQ7AkIRA&biw=375&bih=549#imgrc=OMaZmrUu5kHzMM:
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: falco on May 09, 2018, 05:58:36 AM
awsome..
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: BSN on May 09, 2018, 06:16:29 AM
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Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: fredrollon on May 09, 2018, 06:19:41 AM
Yeah,not forgotten. There seems to be a thread about him ,here, every year or so:  ;D


(https://www.builtreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/tim-belknap-006.jpg)



(https://www.builtreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/tim-belknap-064.jpg)




Next to Matt Mendenhall, for a better appreciation of his bulk. A man before his time.

(https://www.builtreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/tim-belknap-067.jpg)



Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: beakdoctor on May 09, 2018, 06:22:07 AM
thick mofo.On occasion his chest was a little thin but otherwise very impressive. Somebody said he's a dentist now I think.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: fredrollon on May 09, 2018, 06:22:11 AM
Don't know if Tim is in decent health or indeed whether he's still alive. I do remember reading that he'd received a heart transplant(not true,apparently).


For anyone interested,he did an interview with Dave Palumbo,from 28 June 2010 :

http://rxmuscle.com/hmr-radio-show/1617-jefftheproducer-hmr.html (http://rxmuscle.com/hmr-radio-show/1617-jefftheproducer-hmr.html)

(interview starts at 1:19:20)  :)


Interesting stories. He seemed to have deep into his Christianity at the time of the interview and had joined a seminary ,training to become a minister(?) .
(feel free to add any details,if the circumstances have changed)
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: funk51 on May 09, 2018, 06:22:36 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: mphgrove on May 09, 2018, 06:35:20 AM
   ;D yes, the one directly above I have admired time and time again.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Trev on May 09, 2018, 07:50:52 AM

Was vegetarian too - He got into some crazy shape. Some of the most hardcore shots ever are of Belknap
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: mphgrove on May 09, 2018, 08:09:27 AM
is there some intrinsic link between lifting very heavy weights & eating huge amounts of food and discovering / recovering Religion?

Yes needing something outside yourself in an attempt to satisfy internal needs/voids.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: mphgrove on May 09, 2018, 08:23:35 AM
that is not exclusive to weightlifting
sorry I should have said uniquely intrinsic

Well, the only unique aspect that comes to mind is the common use of the word “worship” between the two spheres. But it would take Freud to explain or elaborate on that connection. I guess we also “worship” our everyday sports heroes, so again maybe not “uniquely” intrinsic. But the sports heroes make big bucks. Something entirely different is going on with professional bodybuilders who generally “pay in” as opposed to cash out. So maybe the “worship” aspect plays a role with a pro bodybuilder in a way it does not with a standard professional athlete.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: HTexan on May 09, 2018, 08:31:25 AM
How tall is he?
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: fredrollon on May 09, 2018, 08:44:27 AM
How tall is he?

Short.  5' 4" (163 cm). Couple of inches or so taller than Columbu or Padilla.


Side by side with Mentzer 5`8" (173 cm)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=628065.0;attach=757209;image)


(http://bundles.sfd.pl/SFD/2017/10/11/302e1abb4a374e28a7f32897ec9b94e9-small.jpg)
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Dan-O on May 09, 2018, 08:46:28 AM
Tim is/was also a Type 1 diabetic, so he was probably able to use insulin to his advantage.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: mphgrove on May 09, 2018, 08:55:00 AM
Tim is/was also a Type 1 diabetic, so he was probably able to use insulin to his advantage.

He may not even have understood the connection altogether at that time because it happened more or less accidentaly. “Damn, look at my vascularity. I’m doing something right.”
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: mphgrove on May 09, 2018, 08:57:09 AM
Short.  5' 4" (163 cm). Couple of inches or so taller than Columbu or Padilla.


Next to Mentzer 5`8" (173 cm)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=628065.0;attach=757209;image)


(http://bundles.sfd.pl/SFD/2017/10/11/302e1abb4a374e28a7f32897ec9b94e9-small.jpg)

Mentzer lookin good in clothes.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 09, 2018, 09:15:35 AM
Tim Belknap gets a lot of heat...but the guy looks fucking incredible. People always talking about the early shorter thick Mesomorph monsters like Mentzer and Viator. But Belknap seems to be forgotten about. Yes....he came a half decade later but the guy looked awesome. Especially in the mid-80's with his NABBA wins.


Hi Tim Belknap.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Dan-O on May 09, 2018, 09:37:48 AM

Hi Tim Belknap.

Naw.  Tim is a really humble down-to-earth guy nowadays, not the type who likes to go on and on about himself.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 09, 2018, 09:38:43 AM
He was a mass monster. Sometimes he dieted so hard he lost muscle. He had a ton of potential but disappeared after a few short years.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on May 09, 2018, 10:01:39 AM
He may not even have understood the connection altogether at that time because it happened more or less accidentaly. “Damn, look at my vascularity. I’m doing something right.”
I agree with your statement 1000%. So tired of his diabetic insulin use from the very early 80's being used as a tool for his incredible physique. Nobody knew jackshit about insulin being anabolic back then. Not Duchaine. ..nor Feliciano...nobody.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Straw Man on May 09, 2018, 10:04:39 AM
anecdote from Lance Dreher about Belknap

the entire interview is pretty interesting. 
http://bodybuilding-mauritius.blogspot.com/2015/04/a-conversation-with-world-bodybuilding.html
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on May 09, 2018, 10:07:10 AM
I used to bullshit with Belknap at Golds, Venice in 1993-94. He would pop in to train in the mornings occasionally, but only on a Saturday or Sunday. I remember asking him about his diet for his America win. He told me very very surely...that he only ate 45-90 grams of protein per day for that show. Said he did 45 grams on non-training days and 90 grams on training days. And said that his carbs were 100 grams per day max....straight through the entire diet. And his fats were at zero or whatever trace amounts were intramuscularly in his protein after being trimmed. He said it was 800-900 calories a day.

And add to that....he said that he only ate his 45 gram protein day protein...all in one sitting. The rest of his meals were carbs only. Said he suffered immensely during his prep.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: funk51 on May 09, 2018, 10:08:27 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on May 09, 2018, 10:09:57 AM
anecdote from Lance Dreher about Belknap

http://bodybuilding-mauritius.blogspot.com/2015/04/a-conversation-with-world-bodybuilding.html
While I love Lance Dreher and his physique. As well as his gracious attitude toward his fans when approached for photos and autographs back in the day.....Lance is a very very very big fabricator or truth. And somewhat very sour and beefs himself up to a larger status than he was. I call total bullshit on Lances Belknap insulin statement.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Dan-O on May 09, 2018, 10:11:47 AM
anecdote from Lance Dreher about Belknap

the entire interview is pretty interesting. 
http://bodybuilding-mauritius.blogspot.com/2015/04/a-conversation-with-world-bodybuilding.html

This is interesting.  Tim was certainly hyped in the Weider mags way before the 1981 Mr. America.  Also interesting is the different versions of the story Dreher told.  In his version, when Belknap told him he was going to win the 1981 Mr. America, Dreher said "Whomever is best will win."  In Belknap's version of the story, Dreher said "Rotsa ruck."  ;D
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on May 09, 2018, 10:18:53 AM
Tim Belknap at 1984 NABBA UNIVERSE.
Comparisons-Lineup first...then Tims routine at 3:15.

Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: mphgrove on May 09, 2018, 12:11:40 PM
While I love Lance Dreher and his physique. As well as his gracious attitude toward his fans when approached for photos and autographs back in the day.....Lance is a very very very big fabricator or truth. And somewhat very sour and beefs himself up to a larger status than he was. I call total bullshit on Lances Belknap insulin statement.

Was “extra” insulin even available at that point in time? Dreher’s contention implies he went way beyond what was prescribed for his diabetes.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: JAGO on May 09, 2018, 12:16:02 PM
The audience gasps when he walks out.

Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: mphgrove on May 09, 2018, 12:18:27 PM
The audience gasps when he walks out.



Wish there were a gasp or two when the Pittsburgh bloat ball guest posers walk out on stage.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Skylge on May 09, 2018, 12:30:48 PM
He was forgotten and rightly so: midget like size with a bloated face / head and too much veins

Looked ugly and unhealthy

Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on May 09, 2018, 02:01:07 PM
One has to wonder what the 1984 Olympia stage and placing would have been had a 1984 Tim Belknap and a 1984 Jeff King had been allowed to compete in the IFBB.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: HTexan on May 09, 2018, 03:02:50 PM
He was forgotten and rightly so: midget like size with a bloated face / head and too much veins

Looked ugly and unhealthy


He was on insulin. Still taller then coach though.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: beakdoctor on May 09, 2018, 04:59:22 PM
He was forgotten and rightly so: midget like size with a bloated face / head and too much veins

Looked ugly and unhealthy



dude looked great. apparently he was quite the dick and his attitude more than anything else affected his career longevity. in the early 80s he was all over the mags and was a true freak.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Parker on May 09, 2018, 07:42:03 PM
Was vegetarian too - He got into some crazy shape. Some of the most hardcore shots ever are of Belknap
The proto-bloofy muscle look due to insulin.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Natural_O on May 09, 2018, 07:53:00 PM
When I was 17 years old, I drove out to Rockford, Illinois to see the AAU Mr. Illinois contest. My brother and I walked into the prejudging and Belknap was standing in the middle of the stage, he was the only competitor in the short class. The audience was dead silent, everyone was in shock. Belknap weighed about 215 pounds at 5'4", ripped and vascular everywhere. He was a total freak. Back in 1980, very few bodybuilders had that much thickness and mass while being ripped and vascular. His legs were Tom Platz-like and he had 20 inch arms and super thick all over. He easily won the overall that night. Three months later, he won a very tough AAU Mr. Midwest Open, also held in Rockford. By that time, everyone had heard about this new freak in bodybuilding and the show was sold out. When Belknap came out at night to pose, the audience went nuts. Back then, they had an actual posing platform and Belknap jumped onto the platform and landed in the middle facing the crowd and the place went crazy. He looked unbelievable with his wild curly hair and his massive and ripped physique. Sergio Oliva was there and was watching from the front row and he was blown away. He told someone that Belknap was better than most of the professionals the way he looked that night. I remember his arms were so big that he had to throw his arm back to do a side triceps pose. His legs were freaky, super big with cross striations and vascularity all over. The day after that show, the promoter took some pictures of Belknap in a gym and sent them to Weider. Weider flew Belknap out to California as soon as he saw the pics. He won the America later that year but he lost about 25 pounds to compete in the light heavyweight class.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT on May 09, 2018, 08:56:08 PM
When I was 17 years old, I drove out to Rockford, Illinois to see the AAU Mr. Illinois contest. My brother and I walked into the prejudging and Belknap was standing in the middle of the stage, he was the only competitor in the short class. The audience was dead silent, everyone was in shock. Belknap weighed about 215 pounds at 5'4", ripped and vascular everywhere. He was a total freak. Back in 1980, very few bodybuilders had that much thickness and mass while being ripped and vascular. His legs were Tom Platz-like and he had 20 inch arms and super thick all over. He easily won the overall that night. Three months later, he won a very tough AAU Mr. Midwest Open, also held in Rockford. By that time, everyone had heard about this new freak in bodybuilding and the show was sold out. When Belknap came out at night to pose, the audience went nuts. Back then, they had an actual posing platform and Belknap jumped onto the platform and landed in the middle facing the crowd and the place went crazy. He looked unbelievable with his wild curly hair and his massive and ripped physique. Sergio Oliva was there and was watching from the front row and he was blown away. He told someone that Belknap was better than most of the professionals the way he looked that night. I remember his arms were so big that he had to throw his arm back to do a side triceps pose. His legs were freaky, super big with cross striations and vascularity all over. The day after that show, the promoter took some pictures of Belknap in a gym and sent them to Weider. Weider flew Belknap out to California as soon as he saw the pics. He won the America later that year but he lost about 25 pounds to compete in the light heavyweight class.
Great share!!!! Thanks John.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Vince B on May 09, 2018, 09:02:58 PM
Belknap figured out how to use insulin to get huge. That he did but his physique, though massive and impressive, didn't improve. Plus his face got fuller which spoiled the added size.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 09, 2018, 10:02:13 PM
Tim is/was also a Type 1 diabetic, so he was probably able to use insulin to his advantage.

But didn’t realize it. Used it like it should diabetics should use it. Seriously don’t think it would help for bodybuilding
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: tres_taco_combo on May 09, 2018, 10:13:30 PM
But didn’t realize it. Used it like it should diabetics should use it. Seriously don’t think it would help for bodybuilding

not to get off topic - when did insulin get figured out to be used by bbers?
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: BSN on May 09, 2018, 10:18:03 PM
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Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: fredrollon on May 10, 2018, 12:56:22 AM
The audience gasps when he walks out.



Freak. Apparently, growing up, Kai was a fan:

Random Trivia
- His early inspirations for building his legs came from photos of early ‘80s stars Tom Platz and Tim Belknap.

http://musculardevelopment.com/training/15402-the-best-legs-in-bodybuilding-these-guys-are-the-wheel-deal.html#.WvP2CtQrKt8 (http://musculardevelopment.com/training/15402-the-best-legs-in-bodybuilding-these-guys-are-the-wheel-deal.html#.WvP2CtQrKt8)


(http://body.ba/pictures/kai_trening_nogu_5.jpg)



(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ViAfp-3IEOs/maxresdefault.jpg)




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(https://www.builtreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/tim-belknap-026.jpg)




(https://www.builtreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/tim-belknap-069.jpg)




(https://www.builtreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/tim-belknap-025.jpg)

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Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Nether Animal on May 10, 2018, 01:37:25 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=645214.0;attach=760439;image)

Was never a fan of this guy's physique but this image is the best I've ever seen of him.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: pellius on May 10, 2018, 02:26:14 AM
not to get off topic - when did insulin get figured out to be used by bbers?

gh15 gives credit to Milos Sarcev for using insulin to promote muscle hypertrophy. I know many here
hate gh15 and Milos and will disagree and say it was used way before Milos for bbing. Well, if they did they kept it to themselves so it can't be proven. Milos was speaking about it in the 1980s.

https://www.cleanhealth.com.au/interview-former-ifbb-pro-milos-sarcev/

So back then in 1981 when I started bodybuilding I accepted from my father what sounded logical to me even then. I call it the ‘Hyperemia Advantage’, which is used to create a maximal anabolic environment that will enable you to achieve maximal hypertrophy.

So here is rationale behind it. Men have about 5L of blood and women have about 4L distributed all over the body which is constantly circulating around. In a state of rest at maximum about 10 -12 % of that blood finds its way in to our skeletal muscles, as there is no real physiological demand at the time of a low physical activity period. However, when we become active, blood is sent to our working muscles… and that increased blood flow to exercising muscles (Hyperemia) can achieve an astonishing 60% increase in blood flow or more during weight training. This happens ONLY during the workout!

So as my father suggested, if I supply all the necessary anabolic nutrients in a pre-digested form (e.g; ATP, glucose, amino acids etc) into the blood stream right before training and then continue delivering more of the same nutrients during my training session whilst raising the most anabolic hormone in our body – insulin – I will create an immediate and maximal anabolic environment.

So instead of losing nutrients (protein degradation or catabolism) we are creating a greater nutritional uptake by our muscle cells (protein synthesis or anabolism) and simultaneously preventing anti-catabolism… everything we need to great the maximal results we are after. So we need to remember that we only have this opportunity during training, not before or after as blood will not be in the muscle to this extent.

Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: wrl11 on May 10, 2018, 06:09:34 AM
He was huge. But his chest size and shape (genetics) was poor. Pecs make a huge difference in how your look is perceived.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Natural_O on May 10, 2018, 07:36:10 AM
...

That was when he won the 1980 AAU Mr. Illinois
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: mphgrove on May 10, 2018, 11:59:47 AM
He was huge. But his chest size and shape (genetics) was poor. Pecs make a huge difference in how your look is perceived.

Find it hard to call this shot of Belknap poor genetics; those pecs look thick and veiny to me. This guy influenced me big time into becoming a bodybuilder.

http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/timbelknap1.jpg
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on May 10, 2018, 12:16:30 PM
I remember the first article about him in m+f magazine in 1981 written by Mike Mentzer. I think this picture was used in the article and he was the freakiest looking bodybuilder I had ever seen.
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: milone79 on May 10, 2018, 12:32:55 PM
First bodybuilder with a shredded body and a fat man's face.....all insulin!!!!!!

Also had bad gyno and looked like 10 pounds of $hit stuffed into a 3 pound bag!
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on May 10, 2018, 12:57:54 PM
The proto-bloofy muscle look due to insulin.

There's nothing bloofy about Belknapp besides his face
Title: Re: Awesome.....Tim Belknap!!!
Post by: Natural_O on May 11, 2018, 08:37:41 AM
First bodybuilder with a shredded body and a fat man's face.....all insulin!!!!!!

Also had bad gyno and looked like 10 pounds of $hit stuffed into a 3 pound bag!

It's funny you say that because the first contest Belknap won was the 1980 AAU Jr. Mr. Illinois. Larry Bernstein was either at the show or in the show and he said no one even noticed Belknap when the competitors were in the backstage area because he looked like a fat kid. However, when he took his clothes off, everyone freaked out at his freaky development. He wasn't ripped for that show but he still won the overall because he was so huge.