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Title: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: polychronopolous on June 27, 2018, 06:50:45 AM
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(CNN) Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old Latina running her first campaign, ousted 10-term incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley in New York's 14th congressional district on Tuesday, CNN projects, in the most shocking upset of a rollicking political season.

An activist and member of the Democratic Socialists of America, Ocasio-Cortez won over voters in the minority-majority district with a ruthlessly efficient grassroots bid, even as Crowley -- the fourth-ranking Democrat in the House -- outraised her by a 10-to-1 margin.

This was the first time in 14 years a member of his own party has attempted to unseat Crowley, who chairs the Queens County Democrats. His defeat marks a potential sea change in the broader sphere of liberal politics -- a result with implications for Democrats nationwide that would recall, as optimistic progressives routinely noted during the campaign, former GOP Majority Leader Eric Cantor's loss to the insurgent, tea party-backed Dave Brat in June 2014.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/26/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-new-york-14-primary/index.html
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: loco on June 27, 2018, 07:57:18 AM
I guess liberal voters are fed up with the old, wealthy, white male Democrats that are supposedly for the poor, for minorities, and for gender equality.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2018, 08:08:28 AM
At least they are being honest for once about their communism
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: 2ND COMING on June 27, 2018, 08:25:26 AM
I read crowley used a stand-in to debate her  ???

LOL

Wow, just...wow.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2018, 09:07:16 AM
Pelosi says Ocasio-Cortez win shouldn't be viewed as something larger
The Hill ^ | Julia Manchester - 06/27/18 | Julia Manchester - 06/27/18
Posted on 6/27/2018, 12:01:17 PM by yesthatjallen

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said on Wednesday that progressive New York congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's surprise win should not be viewed at something larger within the Democratic Party.

"They made a choice in one district. So let’s not get yourself carried away as an expert on demographics and the rest of that. Within the caucus or outside the caucus, we are...again, we have an array of genders, generations, geography, and there is opinion in our caucus, and we’re proud of that," Pelosi told reporters at a news conference.

"The fact that in a very progressive district in New York, it went more progressive than...well, Joe Crowley is a progressive, but more she’s left than Joe Crowley, is about that district. It is not to be viewed as something that stands for anything else. Are we excited about another generation of people coming into the commons? I am particularly excited that so many women are running across the country, because when I came to Congress usually people had raised their families or done something else before they came. The men were an average ten years younger when they came. And now we have women stepping up earlier, weighing home and work in a way that’s going to benefit all the American people," she said.

ETC...

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: polychronopolous on June 27, 2018, 09:08:51 AM
Evidently she was a bartender just last year.

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Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: polychronopolous on June 27, 2018, 09:11:18 AM
At least they are being honest for once about their communism

Medicare for all, free college, abolish ICE, living wage, government jobs for all.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 27, 2018, 09:12:31 AM
Medicare for all, free college, abolish ICE, living wage, government jobs for all.

Most of the welfare thugs and layabouts in the Bronx already have that
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 27, 2018, 09:33:34 AM
At least they are being honest for once about their communism

No shit. Although it's socialism in regards to her. She hasn't openly called for confiscation of personal property, but I believe she was jaded by going to school and spending all that money only to be a bartender.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: polychronopolous on June 27, 2018, 09:38:02 AM
No shit. Although it's socialism in regards to her. She hasn't openly called for confiscation of personal property, but I believe she was jaded by going to school and spending all that money only to be a bartender.

Let's see her demeanor after she has that face to face in Mother Pelosi's office and becomes the 28 year old freshman who all the old dogs see as a potential threat to their establishment.

That will tell alot.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 27, 2018, 10:52:38 AM
No shit. Although it's socialism in regards to her. She hasn't openly called for confiscation of personal property, but I believe she was jaded by going to school and spending all that money only to be a bartender.


Apparently that's what she was qualified for...bartender...or congress.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Desolate on June 27, 2018, 07:17:48 PM
Is she a dyke?
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 27, 2018, 07:26:39 PM
Is she a dyke?

Hot Latina
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Skeletor on June 27, 2018, 07:29:09 PM
Medicare for all, free college, abolish ICE, living wage, government jobs for all.

How are they going to pay for all these things?
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 27, 2018, 08:11:12 PM
How are they going to pay for all these things?

They haven't figured this out yet. It just sounds good but Socialists aren't very good at simple math.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 28, 2018, 03:40:16 AM

Apparently that's what she was qualified for...bartender...or congress.

The failure of people to get jobs in their field of study, coupled with being told their whole lives that college is the answer, has severely handicapped these folks and brought them to socialism.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2018, 08:55:48 AM
Ocasio-Cortez's mother: Daughter wants to be president
The Hill ^ | 06/28/18 | Aris Folley
Posted on 6/28/2018, 11:23:42

The mother of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that the 28-year-old democratic socialist aspires to eventually sit in the Oval Office.

“Her aspiration is to be the president,” Blanca Ocasio-Cortez told the New York Post in a report published Thursday.

“She has been thinking about politics since she was a teenager. She would read historical and political books old and new,” her mother said. “She would engage in political discussions passionately.”

The 55-year-old mom and school secretary told the local publication she spent several days helping her daughter campaign against 10-term incumbent Rep. Joseph Crowley (D) for New York’s 14th District congressional seat.

It was like “fighting Goliath,” Blanca Ocasio-Cortez said of the race just days after the shocking upset.

“She is fighting for our community. She is fighting for the working class. She is fighting for immigrants,” Blanca Ocasio-Cortez said, adding her daughter knows firsthand what its like to experience financial hardships in her family, which she says helps more voters relate to her.

“We can relate to that,” her mother added. “We are working class. We did struggle. We know what struggle means.”

Ocasio-Cortez shocked the political by unseating Crowley in the Democratic primary.

The former organizer for Sen. Bernie Sanders's (I-Vt.) presidential campaign was given little chance to topple Crowley, who is the chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, but picked up steam after a campaign video went viral last month.

The newly-minted Democratic nominee will face Republican Anthony Pappas in the general election in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 28, 2018, 09:22:53 AM
This is what blows me away and this says a lot about what our Universities are teaching.

"She went to Boston University, where she studied economics and international relations"

I've brought this up before. One of my former athletes that I've trained since High School went on to get a degree in Econ from UCLA yet supported Bernie Sanders in the last elections. How can this be when there can't even be a competent argument made in favor of Socialism not even by Sanders himself. I understand that we do have it to some degree but what these people are advocating for is true Socialist/Communist society.

I want to hear from some of the leftists on here about this. Strawman?
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2018, 10:00:54 AM

Because people like krugcunt were teaching them.

This is what blows me away and this says a lot about what our Universities are teaching.

"She went to Boston University, where she studied economics and international relations"

I've brought this up before. One of my former athletes that I've trained since High School went on to get a degree in Econ from UCLA yet supported Bernie Sanders in the last elections. How can this be when there can't even be a competent argument made in favor of Socialism not even by Sanders himself. I understand that we do have it to some degree but what these people are advocating for is true Socialist/Communist society.

I want to hear from some of the leftists on here about this. Strawman?
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: polychronopolous on June 28, 2018, 10:15:00 AM
How are they going to pay for all these things?

I follow The Young Turks, Jimmy Dore and Secular Talk just to get a feel for the progressive movement. If you go back over the past couple months, they were watching this race very closely.

I never thought she had much of a chance against such a powerful force within the party but if you look at how she used the fact that he brought in so much money from corporate donors AGAINST him. She buried that guy with that angle.

I think her platform is abhorrent but I have to give her props on that and I think she opened the door for more types just like her. I think the civil war within the Democrat Party is here.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Yamcha on June 28, 2018, 10:23:25 AM
I follow The Young Turks, Jimmy Dore and Secular Talk just to get a feel for the progressive movement. If you go back over the past couple months, they were watching this race very closely.

I never thought she had much of a chance against such a powerful force within the party but if you look at how she used the fact that he brought in so much money from corporate donors AGAINST him. She buried that guy with that angle.

I think her platform is abhorrent but I have to give her props on that and I think she opened the door for more types just like her. I think the civil war within the Democrat Party is here.

As much as I disagree with almost all of her policies, she is a breath of fresh air in today's political atmosphere - especially within the Democrat Party. She's at least honest about her socialist agenda.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: residue on June 28, 2018, 11:17:05 AM
How are they going to pay for all these things?


stop fighting other people's wars?
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Moontrane on June 28, 2018, 04:03:03 PM
This is what blows me away and this says a lot about what our Universities are teaching.

"She went to Boston University, where she studied economics and international relations"

I've brought this up before. One of my former athletes that I've trained since High School went on to get a degree in Econ from UCLA yet supported Bernie Sanders in the last elections. How can this be when there can't even be a competent argument made in favor of Socialism not even by Sanders himself. I understand that we do have it to some degree but what these people are advocating for is true Socialist/Communist society.

I want to hear from some of the leftists on here about this. Strawman?

You can graduate from UCLA as an English major without taking a single class in Shakespeare, Milton, or Chaucer.  But you have to take three classes is SJW stuff:

"Until 2011, students majoring in English at UCLA had to take one course in Chaucer, two in Shakespeare, and one in Milton —the cornerstones of English literature. Following a revolt of the junior faculty, however, during which it was announced that Shakespeare was part of the "Empire," UCLA junked these individual author requirements. It replaced them with a mandate that all English majors take a total of three courses in the following four areas: Gender, Race, Ethnicity, Disability and Sexuality Studies; Imperial, Transnational, and Postcolonial Studies; genre studies, interdisciplinary studies, and critical theory; or creative writing."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-humanities-have-forgotten-their-humanity-1388792592

Who knows what your athlete's head was filled with.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 28, 2018, 05:10:31 PM
You can graduate from UCLA as an English major without taking a single class in Shakespeare, Milton, or Chaucer.  But you have to take three classes is SJW stuff:

"Until 2011, students majoring in English at UCLA had to take one course in Chaucer, two in Shakespeare, and one in Milton —the cornerstones of English literature. Following a revolt of the junior faculty, however, during which it was announced that Shakespeare was part of the "Empire," UCLA junked these individual author requirements. It replaced them with a mandate that all English majors take a total of three courses in the following four areas: Gender, Race, Ethnicity, Disability and Sexuality Studies; Imperial, Transnational, and Postcolonial Studies; genre studies, interdisciplinary studies, and critical theory; or creative writing."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-humanities-have-forgotten-their-humanity-1388792592

Who knows what your athlete's head was filled with.


Man that's fucking nuts.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 28, 2018, 06:51:20 PM
This is what blows me away and this says a lot about what our Universities are teaching.

"She went to Boston University, where she studied economics and international relations"

I've brought this up before. One of my former athletes that I've trained since High School went on to get a degree in Econ from UCLA yet supported Bernie Sanders in the last elections. How can this be when there can't even be a competent argument made in favor of Socialism not even by Sanders himself. I understand that we do have it to some degree but what these people are advocating for is true Socialist/Communist society.

I want to hear from some of the leftists on here about this. Strawman?

Bump for Strawman
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 28, 2018, 07:07:17 PM
I don't agree with her form of "democratic socialism".
I remain a never Trumper.
Most of the dems are becoming socialists.
Most of the GOP is with Trump.

Thus, I have no political party that represents me.

Liberal/socialist/communist are synonomous
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2018, 05:19:31 AM
Ocasio-Cortez pushes back on Pelosi’s analysis of win: ‘...we’re in the middle of a movement’
The Hill ^ | 6/28/18 | Julia Manchester
Posted on 6/29/2018, 5:27:48 AM by Libloather

New York Democratic congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is pushing back on House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) characterization of her surprise primary win, saying the Democratic Party is in the midst of a movement.

“I think that we’re in the middle of a movement in this country,” Ocasio-Cortez told CNN's Erin Burnett late Wednesday. “I feel this movement, but that movement is going to happen from the bottom up. That movement is going to come from voters.”

**SNIP**

Pelosi dismissed speculation in a news conference earlier Wednesday, saying Ocasio-Cortez's win should not be seen as a larger movement within the party at the national level.

"They made a choice in one district. So let’s not get yourself carried away as an expert on demographics and the rest of that," Pelosi said.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: polychronopolous on June 29, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
Ocasio-Cortez pushes back on Pelosi’s analysis of win: ‘...we’re in the middle of a movement’
The Hill ^ | 6/28/18 | Julia Manchester
Posted on 6/29/2018, 5:27:48 AM by Libloather

New York Democratic congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is pushing back on House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) characterization of her surprise primary win, saying the Democratic Party is in the midst of a movement.

“I think that we’re in the middle of a movement in this country,” Ocasio-Cortez told CNN's Erin Burnett late Wednesday. “I feel this movement, but that movement is going to happen from the bottom up. That movement is going to come from voters.”

**SNIP**

Pelosi dismissed speculation in a news conference earlier Wednesday, saying Ocasio-Cortez's win should not be seen as a larger movement within the party at the national level.

"They made a choice in one district. So let’s not get yourself carried away as an expert on demographics and the rest of that," Pelosi said.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...

Thems fightin words!
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 29, 2018, 08:52:05 AM
I don't agree with her form of "democratic socialism".
I remain a never Trumper.
Most of the dems are becoming socialists.
Most of the GOP is with Trump.

Thus, I have no political party that represents me.

If this were actually true, you wouldn't have voted for Clinton.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 29, 2018, 08:53:57 AM
LOL c'mon coach that's like saying soccer and football are the same because they have 11  on each team .

Show me otherwise
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 29, 2018, 09:06:04 AM
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: I don’t think Trump ‘knows how to deal with a girl from the Bronx’
The Hill ^ | 06/29/18 | Mallory Shelbourne
Posted on 6/29/2018, 11:23:23 AM by yesthatjallen

New York Democratic congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said late Thursday that she doesn’t think President Trump “knows how to deal with a girl” who is from the Bronx.

During an appearance on CBS’s “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert,” Ocasio-Cortez spoke about her win over Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.) in the 14th district’s Democratic primary.

Colbert, however, asked Ocasio-Cortez about the president’s tweet regarding Crowley’s loss.

“Well you know, the president is from Queens, and with all due respect - half of my district is from Queens – I don’t think he knows how to deal with a girl from the Bronx,” she told Colbert.

Ocasio-Cortez criticized Trump this week for his remarks about Crowley.

“It is unacceptable to be disrespectful of Congressman Crowley,” Ocasio-Cortez told CNN in an interview.

“He’s done some phenomenal, phenomenal work for the Bronx and Queens."

The president on Tuesday called Crowley a "big Trump hater" following the upset in New York.

“Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election,” the president wrote on Twitter.

“In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!”

Ocasio-Cortez will face off against the Republican nominee for Congress in the November general in a heavily blue New York City district.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: polychronopolous on June 29, 2018, 12:37:06 PM
Hillary's the chunky, fugly, older chick who still looks rough after 10 beers.
But Trump is the old tranny in the nice clothes with crazy hair and caked on make up.

It's not a good choice, but at least Hillary's got a real pussy to grab. ;)







Well, you know what they say...  :)

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Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Moontrane on June 29, 2018, 04:59:43 PM
Ocasio-Cortez pushes back on Pelosi’s analysis of win: ‘...we’re in the middle of a movement’
The Hill ^ | 6/28/18 | Julia Manchester
Posted on 6/29/2018, 5:27:48 AM by Libloather

New York Democratic congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is pushing back on House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) characterization of her surprise primary win, saying the Democratic Party is in the midst of a movement.

“I think that we’re in the middle of a movement in this country,” Ocasio-Cortez told CNN's Erin Burnett late Wednesday. “I feel this movement, but that movement is going to happen from the bottom up. That movement is going to come from voters.”

**SNIP**

Pelosi dismissed speculation in a news conference earlier Wednesday, saying Ocasio-Cortez's win should not be seen as a larger movement within the party at the national level.

"They made a choice in one district. So let’s not get yourself carried away as an expert on demographics and the rest of that," Pelosi said.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...

She's so condescending.  :P
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Dos Equis on June 29, 2018, 05:36:50 PM
I heard she got about 17,000 votes.  Not exactly a "movement."  Very easy to turn an election with than kind of turnout.  You just need one small voting bloc to make a difference. 

I heard her being interviewed.  Doesn't sound like the sharpest pencil.  Not impressed. 
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 29, 2018, 07:21:27 PM
I heard she got about 17,000 votes.  Not exactly a "movement."  Very easy to turn an election with than kind of turnout.  You just need one small voting bloc to make a difference.  

I heard her being interviewed.  Doesn't sound like the sharpest pencil.  Not impressed.  

Yeah, like most socialists, math escapes them. Ask Strawman or Howard
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Yamcha on June 30, 2018, 01:55:27 PM
 :D
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Yamcha on July 01, 2018, 02:21:30 PM
I heard she got about 17,000 votes.  Not exactly a "movement."  Very easy to turn an election with than kind of turnout.  You just need one small voting bloc to make a difference. 

I heard her being interviewed.  Doesn't sound like the sharpest pencil.  Not impressed. 
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2018, 05:55:32 AM
IT’S NOT SOCIALISM, IT’S RACISM
Front Page Magazine ^ | July 2, 2018 | Daniel Greenfield
Posted on 7/2/2018, 8:52:21 AM by TBP

After the ’10 census, New York lost two congressional seats. Overpriced, lacking any growth industries except tourism and community organizing, the state just couldn’t keep up with the rest of the country.

New York had been bleeding congressional seats since the rise of the suburbs. After the massacre of ’10, its congressional delegation was the smallest since 1823. And it’ll lose more seats after the next census.

But the ’10 massacre also forced Rep. Joe Crowley out of the 7th Congressional District and into the 14th. The 7th became a gerrymandered a district built like a Frankenstein’s monster out of parts of Brooklyn, Manhattan and Queens that had nothing geographically in common except Puerto Rican populations who will keep voting for Rep. Nydia Velázquez, a Democrat, until the city sinks beneath the waves.

Crowley, who is paler than birch trees, had no shot at the new 7th. But he settled down comfortably in the 14th, winning 70% of the vote by just showing up, without the fuss of a primary challenge. While representing a Hispanic district in Queens, he was allegedly living comfortably in Arlington, Virginia.

That was never going to last.

New York City’s working class white population is an endangered species. If you’re not on welfare or earning well in the six figures, you can’t afford to live there. Crowley’s district was 46% Hispanic. It had the second highest share of Latino voters in New York. The machine pol was living on borrowed time.

It’s hard to imagine a more vulnerable politician than doughy Joe, the echo of a 19th century political establishment of barstools and crony government jobs, used to winning ¾ of the vote in safe districts and who had forgotten how to compete in an election (if he ever knew how) facing a Hispanic district.

Of course that’s not the story you see in the media.

Instead the media thrills to its own fake news of how Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the "girl from the Bronx", a Socialist candidate and “giant-slayer”, impossibly defeated Rep. Crowley. And that’s accompanied by analysis of how her victory is proof of the inevitable triumph of Socialism. The media has even begun trying to ‘Obamaize’ her with stories about her brand of lipstick selling out.

The fake news narrative has nothing to do with the truth about Cortez and the reality of the 14th.

The simple truth is that the Democratic Socialists of America and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez put in time and money into a district that the Democrats hadn’t bothered to protect because Republicans couldn’t win it. The secret to Cortez’s victory wasn’t socialism. It was her last name.

Nor is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez a “girl from the Bronx”. She’s the daughter of an architect from a pricey suburb in Westchester County. Her father, a Pratt Institute grad, was a founder of KOR which stood for Kirschenbaum & Ocasio-Roman Architects. The Ocasio (rather than the Kirschenbaum) part of the name meant that it operated as a “certified minority business enterprise” which came with assorted privileges.

MBEs are able to cut in line and get all sorts of lucrative government contracts. All it takes is having a minority grandfather and your company is entitled to drink from a river of government cash flowing only to MBE companies. And if your ancestry is whiter than that of Senator Elizabeth Warren, you can always find a minority partner and then let the good times roll. At the expense of the working tax-paying stiffs.

After her father cashed in on affirmative action while living in Westchester County, his daughter cashed in her minority card in a New York City election even though she has far more in common with the white hipster Bernie Sanders supporters who provided the muscle for her campaign than any of the minorities living in a housing project in Queens or the Bronx. But that’s also why the media loves Cortez.

She’s one of them: a suburban leftist with a bio consisting of studying International Relations at Boston U, working on immigration issues for Ted Kennedy, serving as the National Hispanic Institute's Social Entrepreneur in Residence, producing a web series, shuttling between trendy lefty protests and founding what appears to a defunct social justice publishing house.

This isn’t the biography of an urban minority politician, but an upscale lefty hipster drifting after college from one activist gig to another, developing the contacts that put her in the right place at the right time. These are the bios of ten thousand professional lefties who infest the non-profit sector. They’re all angry, self-righteous and interchangeable. The minorities among them hail from wealthy areas.

And like all upscale lefties, they love putting on as much working class cred as they can get away with.

The media is using Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to push the Democrats even further to the left. But her victory is no argument for socialism. It is evidence that the left can win an election if the turnout is really low and a Hispanic district is being represented by a boring white Democrat who lives in Virginia. Since the 14th is a minority district, Cortez will probably be able to hold on to it until she’s older than Maxine Waters. Or unless the coming redistricting after New York loses more seats changes its racial composition. And Cortez and her Socialism will go down hard in an Asian or African-American district.

The unspeakable truth is that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez didn’t win because of her views but because the Democrats have created a political racial tribalism that is as bad as that of any third world country.

It’s not Socialism that will send Cortez to Congress. It’s racism.

The 14th district has the second highest share of Latino voters in New York. The 13th has the highest. Before Crowley bit the dust, Rep. Rangel, an elder statesman of the Congressional Black Caucus, barely survived a 2012 challenge by Adriano Espaillat, a Dominican former illegal alien, when his Harlem district’s racial demographics shifted. Frantic efforts were made to dig up Rangel’s “Latino roots.” Rangel finally eked out a victory by a little over 1,000 votes. He didn't show up in 2016. And Espaillat beat Rangel's chosen African-American successor but not after some embarrassing race-baiting by both sides.

Nobody in the 13th or 14th needs Socialism. They’re already living it. Their phones, food, education, medical care, transportation and, their jobs (if they have them) all come from the government.

The 14th dumped the old white guy for the same reason that the 13th dumped the old black guy. They were the wrong color. And the 13th, 14th, and the other multicultural voting districts of Dem strongholds can’t be satisfied with getting their free phones from a political representative of another race.

The media has been marketing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as the new Obama. And that’s what she is. Her lesson isn’t that socialism works. The details of her politics were as incidental to the voters of the 14th as Obama’s policies were to his most dedicated base. It’s that racism works. Just ask a Democrat.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2018, 07:39:15 AM
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/07/01/alexandria_ocasio-cortez_socialist_is_part_of_what_i_am_its_not_all_of_what_i_am.html?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation


Pelosi - LOL!!!!   
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2018, 10:51:44 AM
Ex-Coworker Says Democrat Star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Stiffed Her On Tips
Information Liberation ^ | Jul. 01, 2018 | Chris Menahan
Posted on 7/2/2018, 12:20:52 PM by E. Pluribus Unum

Newly elected Democratic Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez appears to have put socialism into practice at work, much to the chagrin of one of her coworkers.

From Page Six, "Ex co-worker no fan of Democrat darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez":
Most of the staff at Flats Fix, the East 16th Street taco and tequila bar, say nice things about Sandy, as they knew her for the four years she worked there, until she quit six months ago to run for Congress.

But one waitress has a bad memory of working with Ocasio-Cortez, 28, as Ocasio-Cortez tended bar during the very busy Cinco de Mayo celebration in 2017.

This photo is from Nov. 14, 2017. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, was then working as a bartender.

Less than a year later, she defeated the likely next Speaker of the House, and will almost certainly be the youngest woman ever elected to Congress pic.twitter.com/JgHjdQWAF6— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) June 27, 2018


At the end of the night, when it came time to split the $560 in tips she had gotten at the bar, Ocasio-Cortez gave the waitress only $50. After the waitress complained to her manager, her take was doubled to $100, a source said.

“It says so much about her character,” said my source. “From that point on, I wouldn’t talk to her. I couldn’t look at her.”
Sounds like she'll fit right in with the Democrats!
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Yamcha on July 02, 2018, 02:31:43 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Yamcha on July 03, 2018, 08:21:43 AM
 :D
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2018, 09:09:33 AM
New York's Vaunted Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is damaged goods now
American Thinker ^ | 07/03/2018 | Monica Showalter
Posted on 7/3/2018, 11:56:05 AM by SeekAndFind

Voters hate phoniness.

And, well, the Democrats' new golden girl, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, now embodies it, with revelations that "Sandy from the block," "the tough girl from the Bronx," isn't quite what she said she was. Actually, far from the gritty streets of the Bronx, Ocasio grew up in leafy Westchester, home of the upper-middle class, and exactly the sort of place a cosseted Democratic Socialists of America member headed to an Ivy League college is likely to come from. Bleagh.

This is a dramatic turnaround. Ocasio's youth, hipsterly pert campaign literature, and fresh-faced good looks had, up until a few days ago, been hailed as sign that Democrats' fortunes were turning upward, socialism was alive, and a blue wave was building after all. Ocasio used her ethnicity to draw ethnic voters, and while her ethnicity itself is not in question, her supposed common shared experience with those voters is. She's not going to serve the Bronx and Queens as Jenny from the block, shoveling pork as the locals like. She's more likely to serve as their disdainful college professor, spouting snowflake-friendly admonitions and going green, as befits her real background.

And though she is likely to win in her Democrat-heavy district, the bloom is off. It's likely that the charges of phoniness will follow her wherever she goes, just as Elizabeth Warren's bid to game the Harvard system by comically claiming to be an American Indian is something that tags after her like a bad smell.

It's sad, because she could have been honest, presenting herself as an American success story and calling America the land of opportunity. But Democrats of the socialist stripe have always propounded the myth that the woikin' class just adores socialism as the antidote to the awfulness of America and all its opportunity.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2018, 12:34:28 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-democratic-socialists-getting-started-20180702-story.html


Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: polychronopolous on July 03, 2018, 02:58:11 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-democratic-socialists-getting-started-20180702-story.html




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Today, thousands of DSA members across the country are organizing for Medicare for All, rent control, abolishing ICE, a federal jobs guarantee, tuition-free college, free and legal abortions, a fighting labor movement, and ending police violence and mass incarceration, climate devastation, and war.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Skeletor on July 03, 2018, 03:20:33 PM
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Today, thousands of DSA members across the country are organizing for Medicare for All, rent control, abolishing ICE, a federal jobs guarantee, tuition-free college, free and legal abortions, a fighting labor movement, and ending police violence and mass incarceration, climate devastation, and war.

So on their list of demands they have free college education, free healthcare, free abortions and a guaranteed federal job? How exactly will this federal job guarantee work? What sort of positions will need to be created so that so that hundreds of millions would be guaranteed federal employment? What exactly will workers be doing in these positions? And, of mild importance, how are they going to get the money to do all these things? Are they willing to pay or will they just force everyone else to pay?
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: IroNat on July 03, 2018, 03:44:08 PM
So on their list of demands they have free college education, free healthcare, free abortions and a guaranteed federal job? How exactly will this federal job guarantee work? What sort of positions will need to be created so that so that hundreds of millions would be guaranteed federal employment? What exactly will workers be doing in these positions? And, of mild importance, how are they going to get the money to do all these things? Are they willing to pay or will they just force everyone else to pay?

Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: polychronopolous on July 03, 2018, 04:45:22 PM
So on their list of demands they have free college education, free healthcare, free abortions and a guaranteed federal job? How exactly will this federal job guarantee work? What sort of positions will need to be created so that so that hundreds of millions would be guaranteed federal employment? What exactly will workers be doing in these positions? And, of mild importance, how are they going to get the money to do all these things? Are they willing to pay or will they just force everyone else to pay?

I check into these progressive channels to get a feel for the landscape and that might be a third or half of what I hear being spouted off consistently.

Free daycare, high speed rail, a so called "Green jobs New Deal"(in reference to FDR but where renewable energy will magically replace fossil fuels vis-à-vis government intervention lol ), clemency for all non violent criminals.

I could name some more like universal basic income among others but the above list is pretty regularly stated by these people.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Core on July 03, 2018, 08:48:08 PM
I guess liberal voters are fed up with the old, wealthy, white male Democrats that are supposedly for the poor, for minorities, and for gender equality.


no this is a case of the puppet masters reacting to the fact that those old wealthy dems dont win elections any more and that the people see through their charade, which im surprised took em so long. This young hip latina from a fragmented family is just the beginning, you will see a lot more like her being put up by the dems. you have to remember these people are simple faces, they themselves are not the politicians. i mean do you really think a 28 yr old latina woman is fit to be in congress? probably not. but it sounds and looks good to young people so here you go.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Mobil on July 03, 2018, 08:50:48 PM
Evidently she was a bartender just last year.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/485/socialembed/https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1011791408162799618~/news/world-us-canada-44625617)

theories are going on... thats the Liberals "New Pet"... like Obama(no namer coming out of nowhere to get the minority vote, because hispanics are the largest growing demographics in the USA)... shes a woman and latina... msm is putting Trump against latinos/latinas with him following through with "old policies/law"... watch....little do they know alot of hispanics support Trump..... due to his christian policies.. seen it on facebook...only "illegals"or first generation hispanics dont like him.. hispanics are very christian...2nd and 3rd generation hispanics(become hard working citizens) support him(they have no need to support illegals, since they have been here long enough)...because they dont care about that "illegal" aspect of it... just the right and wrong aspect...so liberals  want to push illegals.. to get that first generation VOTE, because their parents are illegal... 2nd and 3rd generation.... they are all about whats right and wrong.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Mobil on July 03, 2018, 09:23:03 PM
btw: 2nd and 3rd generations of any culture/race loses their language and only speak english(in America)... Germans, Italians, Russian,Indian, Arabic, Spanish....list goes on
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Dos Equis on July 04, 2018, 11:36:50 AM
These people are crazy. 

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Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Conservative Coach on July 04, 2018, 02:38:19 PM
How are they going to pay for all these things?
Same way everything is paid for now, borrowing.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Moontrane on July 04, 2018, 04:45:31 PM
btw: 2nd and 3rd generations of any culture/race loses their language and only speak english(in America)... Germans, Italians, Russian,Indian, Arabic, Spanish....list goes on

That is mostly true; however, 30% of third generation Americans are English language learners.  Bilingual education was such a farce.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2018, 01:36:19 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/ocasio-cortez-tax-cuts-business


 :D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 06, 2018, 02:38:40 PM
I don't agree with 'em.

But I'll be willing to make a bet on the 2018 midterm:
If the republicans maintain the house, you can ban me from get big politics forum, for life.
If the dems take back the house, you quit as mod and leave for good.

Is it a bet?

What’s their platform?
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Moontrane on July 06, 2018, 03:39:01 PM
Ocasio-Cortez buried under more than 1,000 media requests after primary win

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/395467-ocasio-cortez-buried-under-more-than-1000-media-requests-after-election-win

In March of 2016 the New York Times asserted that Donald Trump benefited from free media publicity to the tune of $2 Billion.  After the election TheStreet.com estimated it was $5 billion.

Between now and after the November election, will the NYT or any of the legacy media quantify how much free publicity candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez received?
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Mobil on July 06, 2018, 09:38:58 PM
That is mostly true; however, 30% of third generation Americans are English language learners.  Bilingual education was such a farce.

i date alot of Latinas..I'm white(im from TX)... i know more Spanish then their children do.. they are 2nd and 3rd generation.. i learned Spanish in high school, plus the jobs i had in the past..i had to  communicate with them(even though my spanish is feo).....so i know from personal experience.....my current GF is Chicana... she even tells me to talk to her in Spanish when we are talking about her kids(when they are around)...because she knows they don't understand Spanish...true story

but im getting rid of her soon due to her jealousy... i cant even walk outside(with my shirt off) without her talking shit(im trying to show off to our neighbors :( )....so im going back to white once i fix my car... they arent my kids.... sorry to sound cruel.
Title: Re: 28-year-old Democratic Socialist Defeats 10 Term Congressman in New York Primary
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 09, 2018, 07:22:06 AM
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/socialist-ocasio-cortez-changes-bio-called-misleading-section/amp/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostSideSharingButtons&utm_content=2018-07-08&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons&__twitter_impression=true