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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: pellius on June 30, 2018, 05:36:30 PM
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Not quite at Ronnie Coleman's level but I sure feeling the effects of age and life style. I just got a second opinion from a doctor and she said the same thing, I need knee replacement surgery.
I also got a full body bone scan/survey and it explains a lot as to why I am always so stiff and sore. Most is Greek to me like"tug lesions" and "chondrocalcinosis" and I haven't looked it up yet. Well, I did look up "tug lesions" but still don't know what it is. This was the report:
There are multilevel degenerative changes of the cervical, thoracic and
lumbar spine. There are degenerative changes of the bilateral shoulders,
bilateral hips and bilateral knees. There are extensive atherosclerotic
vascular calcifications. Soft tissue calcifications are seen adjacent to
the proximal to mid humeri, the bilateral hips and the bilateral lower
extremities, nonspecific in etiology. A prominent tug lesion is seen along
the medial aspect of the mid diaphysis of the left femur. Suture anchors
are seen within the greater tuberosity of the left humerus. There are old
healed right and left rib fractures. Heel spurs on both right and left heels.
Faint soft tissue calcifications are seen within the bilateral knee joints, most
consistent with chondrocalcinosis.
Interpreted by: Jason Merchant, MD
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Keep moving.
Pretend you don't know about any of this stuff.
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Keep moving.
Pretend you don't know about any of this stuff.
I agree with this. Hang in there man.
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What are your symptoms?
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are ya still hangin 'n bangin these days?
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Keep moving.
Pretend you don't know about any of this stuff.
do this... and start smoking joints.
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Go back to surfing 8)
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hot yoga and edibles
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Ibuprofen 800 mg a day is your friend
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Dude, get a high quality Hot Tub/Jacuzzi.
No bull.
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Pellius, my friend, all we can do is endeavor to persevere. I know exactly what you are feeling and going through. It is frustrating to say the least.
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You look like the model of health ???
How did this happen!?!!
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What are your symptoms?
Pain.
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Tug lession is a thickening of the knee around the muscle insertion of vastus medialis.
You will probably need to get on a good painkiller if you arent already.
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Panama stem cell blood transfusion
https://www.cellmedicine.com/
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do this... and start smoking joints.
I do have a marijuana card but haven't used it. It's a small source of pride that I was able to withstand peer pressure growing up in Hawaii and never smoking weed. The idea of burning at near 60 years of age does give me pause. Even if it is for health reasons. I've never been drunk or high ever in my life and not eager to do so.
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https://www.cellmedicine.com/stem-cell-therapy-panama-neil-riordan-mel-gibson/
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Ignorance is bliss.
If it’s not physically or mentally life threatening, just pretend you never learned of the information. I guess easier said than done, as I am sure you want relief.
Man, I am not looking forward to aging. :-\ :-\
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You look like the model of health ???
How did this happen!?!!
From sports and seeming to have a fragile body. I was always prone to injury. My first day of baseball my thumb got dislocated catching a fast ball. I've dislocated my thumb literally dozens of time on both hands during the course of my life. As a junior in high school I was laid up, bed ridden for six weeks do to a back injury. During my competitive years in Jiu-Jitsu I never went through a year without being on crutches for a period of ten years. Every year there was rarely a time when I wasn't nursing some injury. I've two surgeries on both knees. One on each shoulder and one to treat an umbilical hernia. Broken ribs, had both elbows and both ankles dislocated (didn't "tap"). I've had to stop BJJ but still hit the gym and do what I can. Shoulders are really bad and limits the exercises and the weight I can use. I can only press a 3 lb dumbbell over head with my left arm and 12 lbs with my right. For the Hammer incline I can only do a quarter on each side for about six reps. That's my "heavy set". I then drop down to a 10 and a 5, 15 lbs on each side so I can get more reps. I look pretty pathetic.
But I always keep a smile on my face and I'm not limping around like Ronnie and seem normal except when I have to go up and down steps, get up from a chair, or have to get down on the floor.
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Ibuprofen 800 mg a day is your friend
That helps but I can't take it continuously.
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That helps but I can't take it continuously.
why?
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Ignorance is bliss.
If it’s not physically or mentally life threatening, just pretend you never learned of the information. I guess easier said than done, as I am sure you want relief.
Man, I am not looking forward to aging. :-\ :-\
Pain is hard to ignore. But I'm good. I was just looking at my options and wanted to know what I was
facing. I am definitely not going to get knee replacement in the near future. I see how long I can go before I can't function somewhat normally. My doctor told me that I am just putting off the inevitable
just seeing how long I can last before it becomes unbearable. That's it's just temporary. I told her that isn't everything in life temporary? That's it's just a matter of time before everything ends and that you do what you can as long as you can. I mean, you won't be replacing knees forever either. She just smiled and said, "Well, I guess that's one way of looking at it."
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why?
There are side effects. Kidney, cardiovascular risks, ulcers...
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Go back to surfing 8)
Actually, that's one of things I've had to give up on the last year and a half. Just boogie board or body surfing. But even that isn't the same and I'm just getting lazy.
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Pellius, my friend, all we can do is endeavor to persevere. I know exactly what you are feeling and going through. It is frustrating to say the least.
That's exactly how i look at it. You just do what you can. I knew this day would come.
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Panama stem cell blood transfusion
https://www.cellmedicine.com/
I asked about those PRP injections that I read about here on this board on a Levrone thread. She said it's too late for that.
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You could be in your nineties. Open your eyes.
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You could be in your nineties. Open your eyes.
Or only in your seventies,like me. This week, I've been at a union conference. I developed a pinched nerve on the top of my left foot. The pain came and went, thank goodness. Since I neglected to bring Aleve, which usually helps, I went barefoot a lot because wearing any type of shoe is excruciatingly painful. Can't wait to get home tomorrow and pop some Aleve and soak my foot in a warm foot bath with Epsom salts.
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I have two friends at work that put off knee replacement so long it was affecting their posture. In the end they needed knee and hip replacement. Both were about your age,
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Or only in your seventies,like me. This week, I've been at a union conference. I developed a pinched nerve on the top of my left foot. The pain came and went, thank goodness. Since I neglected to bring Aleve, which usually helps, I went barefoot a lot because wearing any type of shoe is excruciatingly painful. Can't wait to get home tomorrow and pop some Aleve and soak my foot in a warm foot bath with Epsom salts.
Love the image of you walking round the conference barefoot ;D
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this guy had knee replacement at 65
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170926141829-steven-tyler-exlarge-169.jpg)
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I have two friends at work that put off knee replacement so long it was affecting their posture. In the end they needed knee and hip replacement. Both were about your age,
I walk fine without pain. I can feel the discomfort but it's nothing. I just can't walk for long distance. Well, maybe not long. A mile would be tough. i am able to do the elliptical with no problem and can still do the Hammer and Hoist leg press. I just have to position my feet so that the angle isn't to sharp.
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You could be in your nineties. Open your eyes.
Most people don't even live to 90 so not sure what your point is.
And open my eyes to what?
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I walk fine without pain. I can feel the discomfort but it's nothing. I just can't walk for long distance. Well, maybe not long. A mile would be tough. i am able to do the elliptical with now problem and can still do the Hammer and Hoist leg press. I just have to position my feet so that the angle isn't to sharp.
Always a way Buddy. Keep on pumpin
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"I'm in a lot of pain, but I won't take anything for it, and I won't do anything about it" ::) ;D
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Age 52, 40 years of training, Im like Pellius. 2 torn shoulders, degenerative disc disease and scoliosis in back, bone on bone knee problem, pain 24x7.
Using edibles at night is life changing. Normally I wake up every hour from the shoulder pain, with edibles, sleep thru night, body is like a pain free jello carcass.
Pellius, try some edibles since you have a card, its life changing...
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Go back to surfing 8)
I believe that's one of the healthiest activities for your joints, along with walking, swimming and smart lifting
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That blows. This year totally sucks. I hate it. Maybe get that hypocrisy bone tweaked?
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/re: taking ibuprofen for long periods of time.
why?
It will eat your stomach lining up.
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Pellius,I can relate to your malady old friend.................. .my joints are fucked to the point where I now can`t even do one pushup.
Very depressing. "(
Neck,back,and both shoulders are a total mess.
Hang in there and all the best to you old buddy. ;)
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I walk fine without pain. I can feel the discomfort but it's nothing. I just can't walk for long distance. Well, maybe not long. A mile would be tough. i am able to do the elliptical with no problem and can still do the Hammer and Hoist leg press. I just have to position my feet so that the angle isn't to sharp.
If you can do all that why get a knee replacement?
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WOW! Interesting stuff as mentioned above! I tended to think that you older guys were the epitome of good health.
I had my yearly physical last month and my doctor claims that I am as healthy as a 'group' 30 years younger than my current age.
And we figure that that's due to the folllowing 'stuff':
I personally think (and my doctor agrees) that my good health is due to the fact that I stay active constantly. I walk 4 to 6 miles a day at least 5 times a week and have done that consistantly throughout my life-time which became a habit due to alcoholic problems at home when I was just a kid.
I don't drink alcohol excessively. Three beers puts me to sleep.
No smoking.
No drugs ecept for baby asperin. (Was prescribed Percocet once, but it did nothing.)
I work out moderately in the gym (Aerobics mostly now-a-days).
Home meals are no larger than my fist, but I do cheat a bit when eating out ... but not too much.
At least 8 hours of sleep a night.
And I seldom have any reason to worry about shit such as politics and/or life in general.
But my time will come, I guess.
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WOW! Interesting stuff as mentioned above! I tended to think that you lder guys were the epitome og good health.
I had my yearly physical last month and my doctor claims that I am as healthy as a 'group' 30 years younger than my current age.
And we figure that that's due to the folllowing 'stuff':
I personally think (and my doctor agrees) that my good health is due to the fact that I stay active constantly. I walk 4 to 6 miles a day at least 5 times a week and have done that consistantly throughout my life-time which became a habit due to alcoholic problems at home when I was just a kid.
I don't drink alcohol excessively. Three beers puts me to sleep.
No smoking.
No drugs ecept for baby asperin. (Was prescribed Percocet once, but it did nothing.)
I work out moderately in the gym (Aerobics mostly now-a-days).
Home meals are no larger than my fist, but I do cheat a bit when eating out ... but not too much.
At least 8 hours of sleep a night.
And I seldom have any reason to worry about shit such as politics and/or life in general.
But my time will come, I guess.
Good health habits!
Especially the walking and not eating too much.
It's a fact that you just don't need to eat very much.
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You should look in to stem cells bro, I know a guy from my gym who got them in his knees, he's in his 80's and it changed his life, had knee problems for decades, although he dropped $13,000 on them.
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Love the image of you walking round the conference barefoot ;D
Yeah, my big, ugly feet got a lot of attention. Whenever I did presentations on stage, I put my shoes on, even though I was behind the podium. I also keep them on at the banquet and during meals.
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GO4, Are Stem Cell 'procedures/surgery" covered by standard health insurance plans? I know ZILCH about Stem Cell stuff, but I do intend to read about it even though I have no need for it ...
I have VA medical coverage and some other plan that a lady who was set up in a grocery store begged me to join saying that it was absolutey free, but I thought that shec was lieing so I walked out.
But somehow she managed to knock on my front door and in an effort to get rid of her after a 15 minute pitch, I signed and escorted her to the front door.
That free plan saved me way over $200,00 because I could not get into VA gall platter surgery and had to get civilian srgery plus recovery of 3 weeks in a care home.
But all that time I felt as good as new .... but due to my age (over 65) they ket me locked up and doing 20 pound leg curls with a 'physical therepist' who knew why I always laughed when I saw him.
That guy was making a small fortune "teaching" me what I had already known since grammer school .... while congraulating me when I did 20 pound lrg extentions of 8 reps / 3 sets.
Which as most GetBiggers know ... a dead guy could do twice that weight.
You Personal Trainers should quit that business and go to Physical Theraphy school.
I have a strong feelng that Wiggs will be doing so soon.
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You Personal Trainers should quit that business and go to Physical Theraphy school.
I have a strong feelng that Wiggs will be doing so soon.
Anyone such as Wiggs, that believes the earf is phlatt, that negroes are the OJ (Original Jews) and that caucasian people are doomed because Jebus be a negroe and the proof that God be a negroe be that God never showed up after impregnating Mary Laptoyanqua (isn't it obvious that "Mary" was her slave name?) is too fooking delusional to be in the medical profession.
I know you met him but really now. Wiggs is out of his hateful, racist, bulb-headed gourd. He needs to grow up and accept reality.
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"I'm in a lot of pain, but I won't take anything for it, and I won't do anything about it" ::) ;D
Lol! You have no idea, my friend. Not a whisper of clue.
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You should look in to stem cells bro, I know a guy from my gym who got them in his knees, he's in his 80's and it changed his life, had knee problems for decades, although he dropped $13,000 on them.
But does it also work long term? Dave Palumbo had them injected in his shoulder, but at the end he needed shoulder surgery.
I've discussed alternative therapies like stem cell and platelets rich plasma therapy with an orthopedic, but he said they haven't been proven effective. That prob also answers STUNT's question, it's most likely not covered by insurance because of this.
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But does it also work long term? Dave Palumbo had them injected in his shoulder, but at the end he needed shoulder surgery.
I've discussed alternative therapies like stem cell and platelets rich plasma therapy with an orthopedic, but he said they haven't been proven effective. That prob also answers STUNT's question, it's most likely not covered by insurance because of this.
It's not covered. And it will run you about 15 grand with no guaranteed results.
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If you can do all that why get a knee replacement?
Well, it's not actually "all that". Pain is constant. When I talk about walking I mean I'm not limping around walking to my car or for short distances. But I use to go on walks at night with my dogs and can't do that anymore. After about a half a mile I start limping. Stairs, I need to use the handrails and pull myself to reduce knee stress. Getting out of chairs again I have to push up on the arm rests. If there is no arm rest, say like getting out of bed, I have to lean forward with my head and rock forward with both hands at my side pushing against the edge of the bed keeping my upper body bent so that it's parallel to the floor and then straighten my legs. If I try to get up the normal way my body is too upright and it's too much for my knees.
It's like doing a body weight squat.
It's not something that keeps me from living a somewhat normal life but it's always there. If it gets to the point where I feel I can't function somewhat normally then I'll go with the replacement. Not to sound like a bad ass but I've pretty much lived my entire adult life with some kind of physical pain so it's kind of normal for me.
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It's not covered. And it will run you about 15 grand with no guaranteed results.
Well, there you go, but who knows what the -near- future will bring...
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Well, there you go, but who knows what the -near- future will bring...
I'm sure that technology where you can grow your own cartilage is coming along if not already possible. I'm just suspicious that it won't be brought to market because it will put all those fake knees out of business and make a dent in pain killer both OTC and prescription.
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I'm sure that technology where you can grow your own cartilage is coming along if not already possible. I'm just suspicious that it won't be brought to market because it will put all those fake knees out of business and make a dent in pain killer both OTC and prescription.
buy 3d printer ;) & print your own cartilage ..........
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whatabout mentally
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Well, it's not actually "all that". Pain is constant. When I talk about walking I mean I'm not limping around walking to my car or for short distances. But I use to go on walks at night with my dogs and can't do that anymore. After about a half a mile I start limping. Stairs, I need to use the handrails and pull myself to reduce knee stress. Getting out of chairs again I have to push up on the arm rests. If there is no arm rest, say like getting out of bed, I have to lean forward with my head and rock forward with both hands at my side pushing against the edge of the bed keeping my upper body bent so that it's parallel to the floor and then straighten my legs. If I try to get up the normal way my body is too upright and it's too much for my knees.
It's like doing a body weight squat.
It's not something that keeps me from living a somewhat normal life but it's always there. If it gets to the point where I feel I can't function somewhat normally then I'll go with the replacement. Not to sound like a bad ass but I've pretty much lived my entire adult life with some kind of physical pain so it's kind of normal for me.
That's tough. I feel for you. Stairs are really hard on the knees, especially going down stairs.
As for the standing up part, can you do bodyweight squats to strengthen your legs and hips? High rep sets but start off easy.
Box squats in a power rack?
How about wall squats?
Another that might help you is "good mornings". Light weight, high reps.
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check pm pellius
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That's tough. I feel for you. Stairs are really hard on the knees, especially going down stairs.
As for the standing up part, can you do bodyweight squats to strengthen your legs and hips? High rep sets but start off easy.
Box squats in a power rack?
How about wall squats?
Another that might help you is "good mornings". Light weight, high reps.
I don't, and can't do, any squats in any variation with a bar on my shoulder.
Never was a fan of box squat and never saw the advantage. In training a muscle it's TUT (time under tension) and not reps per se. You can do much more reps with the same weight just doing them fast
as you can using a controlled (and IMO more optimal) rep cadence. You don't have continual tension on a box squat and it might be bad for you spine as you sit and rest with the bar on your shoulders compressing your spine. And it puts just as much strain on the knees as a regular squat except when you are sitting and the tension is off the knees and hips and just transfer it to your shoulders and spine.
I think good mornings are probably the worse and most dangerous lower back exercise one can do. I remember Bruce Lee was laid up for six months doing this worthless movement. As Arthur Jones pointed out, free weights just have resistance in an up and down fashion. It's dependent on gravity. Your joints work in a circular arc. This is one of the reasons he developed Nautilus. To provide continuous tension through the entire movement. With good mornings, in the starting position there is no direct resistance on your lower back. The resistance is travelling along your spine then distributed to your hips and legs -- really your knees and feet since your legs are locked straight. As you bend forward that's when the weight starts to shift more to your lower back. You only get full resistance when you are bent over so that the upper body is parallel to the floor. Your weakest and most vulnerable position. So you get little or no resistance on your lower back in the starting and strongest position only to have it increase as you bend forward toward your weakest position. So your tendency is to use more weight than you can handle safely because it's so light in the beginning of the movement. It really should be the opposite. The resistance should be more at the beginning, the strongest, part at the movement and not at the end when you are in the weakest position.
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Pellius is right. Most
bodybuilders Getbiggers have little clue about which exercises are dangerous.
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I forgot to mention that I can, and do, do a form of squats similar to this picture of Zane. The difference is that I sit a little further back as this takes more stress off the joints, which is why you need something to hold onto, and I only squat down until my thighs are parallel to the floor. My shins are straight up and perpendicular to the ground. In my "full squat" position my shins and thighs form a precise right angle. Like an "L" except turned 15 degrees to the right.
I wish I had access to an apparatus like this. Right now I only do it body weight only but I do it right after a set of leg press to failure so my quads are already "preexhausted" so at least it's a challenge than if I tried to them fresh.
Looking at this photo has given me some ideas. I tried using those hip belts and attached a dumbbell to it like those who need more resistance doing dips and pullups (I only wish I needed added resistance to do those movements). But it just doesn't feel right with the resistance on my hips. I'm thinking of bringing a backpack to the gym floor and adding some weight in the bag. But still, I would rather have the resistance pushing down directly on my shoulders, like in the Zane pic, rather than pulling me back.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=646139.0;attach=762297;image)
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Pellius is right. Most bodybuilders Getbiggers have little clue about which exercises are dangerous.
Thanks. I try to pay attention and at least give some thought to various movements and how the tension is distributed. I saw a guy doing those side bends with a weight on each side which of course just cancels out the resistance he wants to put on the opposite side of the weight. And chances are he is doing it because he thinks it will burn fat and get rid of the love handles. Many seem to be lost of the concept that the whole idea to using weights it is put the muscle under a load so that it will develop and grow. I doubt that he wants to increase the size and width of his hips.
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check pm pellius
Got both and replied to both. Thanks for the tips.
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Ibuprofen 800 mg a day is your friend
IBU #1 kills kidneys. I've trained nephrologists who explain it to me like kidneys are supposed to be sponges sponges like or a kitchen sponge whatever... ibuprofen and to a lesser extent Naproxen turn these nice soft sponges that filter your blood of toxins into hard dense Coral.
#2 anti-inflammatories inhibit prostaglandins. Prostaglandins trigger recovery from workouts, so using anti-inflammatories especially ibuprofen will inhibit your recovery from workouts.
If pain is an issue, Tylenol is a better bet. It can be rough on deliver in high doses or when combined with other things such as alcohol, but at least your liver can regenerate itself heal itself. My liver is a walking example of that. For my understanding simply put Tylenol blocks pain receptors in the brain. I'll take that over destroying my kidneys any day of the week
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IBU #1 kills kidneys. I've trained nephrologists who explain it to me like kidneys are supposed to be sponges sponges like or a kitchen sponge whatever... ibuprofen and to a lesser extent Naproxen turn these nice soft sponges that filter your blood of toxins into hard dense Coral.
#2 anti-inflammatories inhibit prostaglandins. Prostaglandins trigger recovery from workouts, so using anti-inflammatories especially ibuprofen will inhibit your recovery from workouts.
If pain is an issue, Tylenol is a better bet. It can be rough on deliver in high doses or when combined with other things such as alcohol, but at least your liver can regenerate itself heal itself. My liver is a walking example of that. For my understanding simply put Tylenol blocks pain receptors in the brain. I'll take that over destroying my kidneys any day of the week
You are right on all points. I've been using Advil regularly all my life. Literally for over 30 years. I didn't want to mention it because this is GetBig and they will always attribute everything to steroids of which I have never been a heavy or consistent user (I went through "blasting" periods when I've used 300 test and 300 deca a week along with either 25mg/day dbol or 50mg/day drol for 6-8 wks and I went around ten years without anything. Right now it's just TRT: 150mg/wk test cyp and 200mg/wk deca -- all prescribed by a doctor) but my kidneys has been compromised. There's protein in my urine, though the doctor said it's not at an alarming level, but my GFR ranges from 55-60. I should be at 90 and I think 20 is consider kidney disease and 15 is when you go on dialysis.
I've been advised to no longer take any ibruprofin ever but in my case, Tylenol doesn't do anything for me. You are right that acetaminophen works on a different pathway than ibruprofin. It works through the brain inhibiting, not necessarily blocking, pain receptors. But my problem is inflammation and that is what Advil helps reduce exactly how you described and yes, you are also right, that it inhibits muscle hypertrophy. You also make a very, very important point that many don't seem to know. Our liver can regenerate itself but the kidneys do not.
I really don't know why so many people here give you a hard time. You can be a bit braggadocious but you are very knowledgeable on just about all things of concern to people on this board coming from both personal study and research as well as real life hands on experience.
Know that you have at least one person that pays close attention to what you say.
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BTW, I'm thinking of asking my doctor for the stronger stuff. The opiods because Matt C. said that some of them are harmless on your kidneys. Know anything about this?
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Opiods are not harmfull at all for your body but very addictive. So use them as prescribed. They work wonders for pain. In your situation I think they are the best solution. Use them up until your surgery and a few weeks after. Than taper off and you will be fine.
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Well, it's not actually "all that". Pain is constant. When I talk about walking I mean I'm not limping around walking to my car or for short distances. But I use to go on walks at night with my dogs and can't do that anymore. After about a half a mile I start limping. Stairs, I need to use the handrails and pull myself to reduce knee stress. Getting out of chairs again I have to push up on the arm rests. If there is no arm rest, say like getting out of bed, I have to lean forward with my head and rock forward with both hands at my side pushing against the edge of the bed keeping my upper body bent so that it's parallel to the floor and then straighten my legs. If I try to get up the normal way my body is too upright and it's too much for my knees.
It's like doing a body weight squat.
It's not something that keeps me from living a somewhat normal life but it's always there. If it gets to the point where I feel I can't function somewhat normally then I'll go with the replacement. Not to sound like a bad ass but I've pretty much lived my entire adult life with some kind of physical pain so it's kind of normal for me.
Isn't it possible that by putting off the surgery, you are doing more damage? It's not just your knees that are affected, knee pain messes with your whole body including your spine. If you think knee pain is bad, dislocated discs can be murder.
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BTW, I'm thinking of asking my doctor for the stronger stuff. The opiods because Matt C. said that some of them are harmless on your kidneys. Know anything about this?
skip the opiates.. 4 the sake of your soul. pot is superior on every level... no dependence, no withdrawal – no death.
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BTW, I'm thinking of asking my doctor for the stronger stuff. The opiods because Matt C. said that some of them are harmless on your kidneys. Know anything about this?
I know Matt C. is not a doctor.
Knowing what I do about kidney failure, I have to say that it's not worth taking the chance. Over the counter and carefully monitored pain medication is probably okay in moderation and as a temporary solution. Keep in mind that the function of the liver and the kidneys is to filter out toxins. An overload of toxins can seriously damage these organs. Kidneys don't heal like livers do.
Note: My wife died of kidney failure caused mostly by type II diabetes and a tendency toward getting kidney stones. She had surgery to remove the stones, twice. Both times when she was fairly young.
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I do have a marijuana card but haven't used it. It's a small source of pride that I was able to withstand peer pressure growing up in Hawaii and never smoking weed. The idea of burning at near 60 years of age does give me pause. Even if it is for health reasons. I've never been drunk or high ever in my life and not eager to do so.
You've been slave to a self-image that, by its pursuit, has destroyed your body. But at least you never smoked a joint!
::)
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Cut out all sugar and refined carbs and things should improve (inflammation wise)
The only carbs I eat now are one avocado a day plus one spear of broccoli and a bit of cauliflower and my joints are better than ever.
The rest of my diet is 2 slices of bacon, some eggs and ground beef (or some ribeye occasionally) spread through the day for a total of about 2000 calories. Meals are very small size wise.
I’m 47 years old, 6'3” and 200lbs.
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Isn't it possible that by putting off the surgery, you are doing more damage? It's not just your knees that are affected, knee pain messes with your whole body including your spine. If you think knee pain is bad, dislocated discs can be murder.
Of course it will get worse as time goes on. At a certain age everything gets worse with time. You just try to last as long as you can. Knee replacement is major surgery and should be the last resort after other options are tried. With Advil I'm fine but can no longer handle the sides. If opiates are easier on the organs I'll try that. Right now I'm being set up for shelves injections.
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You've been slave to a self-image that, by its pursuit, has destroyed your body. But at least you never smoked a joint!
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Yes, everyone's self image is defined by a large part by what they do. I seemed to be born with a competitive spirit and perhaps pushed myself more than my body could handle to advance in my chosen sport. But I believe you should do something in life. Not just sit in a cocoon and be safe and comfortable. Your self image revolved around your appearance which led to your bulimia and anorexia.
You pays your money and takes your choice.
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On my ship the majority of passengers are senior citizens and retirees, tons of them with hip/knee replacements, I've talked with many of them just out of general curiosity. I've never had a passenger tell me that they regret having the surgery, especially ones with knee replacements. Just putting in my two cents. Obviously I would try every route possible besides surgery, but stem cells are expensive and not covered by insurance. I remember somebody telling me once you have one body for your whole life, imagine if you had one car for your whole life, how good would you take care of that car knowing that is your only mode of transportation forever? So in this metaphor it like you are driving a car with a flat tire. Quality of life is everything dude, you are saying you can't even enjoy a nice walk with your dog on a beautiful evening in Hawaii, if I was in your position, I'd definitely go for the surgery bro. Rehab that shit and go out and enjoy life!
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Cut out all sugar and refined carbs and things should improve (inflammation wise)
The only carbs I eat now are one avocado a day plus one spear of broccoli and a bit of cauliflower and my joints are better than ever.
The rest of my diet is 2 slices of bacon, some eggs and ground beef (or some ribeye occasionally) spread through the day for a total of about 2000 calories. Meals are very small size wise.
I’m 47 years old, 6'3” and 200lbs.
Been doing that for decades.
Height and weight doesn't mean a whole lot to me. It's body composition. Do you have visible and? Have you ever posted a pic?
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On my ship the majority of passengers are senior citizens and retirees, tons of them with hip/knee replacements, I've talked with many of them just out of general curiosity. I've never had a passenger tell me that they regret having the surgery, especially ones with knee replacements. Just putting in my two cents. Obviously I would try every route possible besides surgery, but stem cells are expensive and not covered by insurance. I remember somebody telling me once you have one body for your whole life, imagine if you had one car for your whole life, how good would you take care of that car knowing that is your only mode of transportation forever? So in this metaphor it like you are driving a car with a flat tire. Quality of life is everything dude, you are saying you can't even enjoy a nice walk with your dog on a beautiful evening in Hawaii, if I was in your position, I'd definitely go for the surgery bro. Rehab that shit and go out and enjoy life!
In contrast I have two friends who also had the surgery and neither have been happy with it. One is Japanese and he can't sit on the floor with his legs crossed or sit on his heels as is his custom.
A better analogy would be worn brakes or clutch. A flat tire you're broken.I'm far from broken, my friend.
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Cut out all sugar and refined carbs and things should improve (inflammation wise)
The only carbs I eat now are one avocado a day plus one spear of broccoli and a bit of cauliflower and my joints are better than ever.
The rest of my diet is 2 slices of bacon, some eggs and ground beef (or some ribeye occasionally) spread through the day for a total of about 2000 calories. Meals are very small size wise.
I’m 47 years old, 6'3” and 200lbs.
All kinds of advice here = broscience or old bodybuilders’ tales.
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In contrast I have two friends who also had the surgery and neither have been happy with it. One is Japanese and he can't sit on the floor with his legs crossed or sit on his heels as is his custom.
A better analogy would be worn brakes or clutch. A flat tire you're broken.I'm far from broken, my friend.
Yeah probably a better analogy, can your friends walk?
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I do have a marijuana card but haven't used it. It's a small source of pride that I was able to withstand peer pressure growing up in Hawaii and never smoking weed. The idea of burning at near 60 years of age does give me pause. Even if it is for health reasons. I've never been drunk or high ever in my life and not eager to do so.
Wow! No alcohol or drug induced highs. You've definitely lived clean. Marijuana can really help with pain. Although I don't use it, my son-in-law does for neck pain and migraines. He says it helps.
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Yeah probably a better analogy, can your friends walk?
Both can walk. I can walk. None of us can for long distances. I use a ped monitor at work and walk a total of six miles in a 9 hour shift. Just not all at once.
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All kinds of advice here = broscience or old bodybuilders’ tales.
You became bitter and fat, so what about your theories on nutrition?
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From sports and seeming to have a fragile body. I was always prone to injury. My first day of baseball my thumb got dislocated catching a fast ball. I've dislocated my thumb literally dozens of time on both hands during the course of my life. As a junior in high school I was laid up, bed ridden for six weeks do to a back injury. During my competitive years in Jiu-Jitsu I never went through a year without being on crutches for a period of ten years. Every year there was rarely a time when I wasn't nursing some injury. I've two surgeries on both knees. One on each shoulder and one to treat an umbilical hernia. Broken ribs, had both elbows and both ankles dislocated (didn't "tap"). I've had to stop BJJ but still hit the gym and do what I can. Shoulders are really bad and limits the exercises and the weight I can use. I can only press a 3 lb dumbbell over head with my left arm and 12 lbs with my right. For the Hammer incline I can only do a quarter on each side for about six reps. That's my "heavy set". I then drop down to a 10 and a 5, 15 lbs on each side so I can get more reps. I look pretty pathetic.
But I always keep a smile on my face and I'm not limping around like Ronnie and seem normal except when I have to go up and down steps, get up from a chair, or have to get down on the floor.
You've definitely been though a lot physically.
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Wow! No alcohol or drug induced highs. You've definitely lived clean. Marijuana can really help with pain. Although I don't use it, my son-in-law does for neck pain and migraines. He says it helps.
I'm considering that. Someone mentioned something about "edibles". Not sure what that is.
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Pain is hard to ignore. But I'm good. I was just looking at my options and wanted to know what I was
facing. I am definitely not going to get knee replacement in the near future. I see how long I can go before I can't function somewhat normally. My doctor told me that I am just putting off the inevitable
just seeing how long I can last before it becomes unbearable. That's it's just temporary. I told her that isn't everything in life temporary? That's it's just a matter of time before everything ends and that you do what you can as long as you can. I mean, you won't be replacing knees forever either. She just smiled and said, "Well, I guess that's one way of looking at it."
Prosthetic knees have come a long way. They last longer and are a lot smaller than they once were. My wife had both knees replaced several years apart. The first replacement was huge while the second one was much less invasive.
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There are side effects. Kidney, cardiovascular risks, ulcers...
I have a really high pain threshold. Even following surgery, I avoided pain medication despite the medical staff trying to push it. On the very rare occasion when I feel some discomfort, I've stuck with Aleve or aspirin.
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Not quite at Ronnie Coleman's level but I sure feeling the effects of age and life style. I just got a second opinion from a doctor and she said the same thing, I need knee replacement surgery.
I also got a full body bone scan/survey and it explains a lot as to why I am always so stiff and sore. Most is Greek to me like"tug lesions" and "chondrocalcinosis" and I haven't looked it up yet. Well, I did look up "tug lesions" but still don't know what it is. This was the report:
There are multilevel degenerative changes of the cervical, thoracic and
lumbar spine. There are degenerative changes of the bilateral shoulders,
bilateral hips and bilateral knees. There are extensive atherosclerotic
vascular calcifications. Soft tissue calcifications are seen adjacent to
the proximal to mid humeri, the bilateral hips and the bilateral lower
extremities, nonspecific in etiology. A prominent tug lesion is seen along
the medial aspect of the mid diaphysis of the left femur. Suture anchors
are seen within the greater tuberosity of the left humerus. There are old
healed right and left rib fractures. Heel spurs on both right and left heels.
Faint soft tissue calcifications are seen within the bilateral knee joints, most
consistent with chondrocalcinosis.
Interpreted by: Jason Merchant, MD
My back is jack too. What helps is Spinal Decompression Therapy, tens unit, stretching, Class IV Laser Therapy, and stem cells. Almost pain free now.
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I'm considering that. Someone mentioned something about "edibles". Not sure what that is.
Medical marijuana has changed the industry. Rather than having to smoke it, it is available as an extract which can be used in edibles. Extracts can be very potent. You will probably want to ease into it slowly in order to find the proper dose for you.
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My back is jack too. What helps is Spinal Decompression Therapy, tens unit, stretching, Class IV Laser Therapy, and stem cells. Almost pain free now.
I have a Tens which was prescribed by my physical therapist following my meniscus repair. My back occasionally goes out. When I remember to use the Tens, it works pretty well.
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You became bitter and fat, so what about your theories on nutrition?
"Hard" to guess: pasta + cheese + vino roso = him ;D
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"Hard" to guess: pasta + cheese + vino roso = him ;D
Inflammation is a bitch, no fodmap for Vince
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Yes, everyone's self image is defined by a large part by what they do.
Consider the opposite formulation and have an "edible"... You are the exact sort of person who should use the from time to time. You will see what a massive blind spot you've lived with your whole life.
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See a doctor you trust then take his advice. Many people have said getting hip or knee replacement stopped all pain. Taking pain killers is temp fix. It won't heal your ruined joints. Unfortunately joints wear out. Some due to over use from athletics and some from doing nothing.
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"Hard" to guess: pasta + cheese + vino roso = him ;D
Shows what a simpleton you are. I seldom have pasta and almost never drink alcohol.
I carry some safety fat on an otherwise muscular body. Solid and strong.
The parents of a mate once remarked, "Vince is a fine figure of a man!" That is still true.
Look at the guys here falling apart while still relatively young. I go on hikes by myself in the hills carrying 40 pounds of camera gear.
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"I carry some safety fat"
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Shows what a simpleton you are. I seldom have pasta and almost never drink alcohol.
I carry some safety fat on an otherwise muscular body. Solid and strong.
The parents of a mate once remarked, "Vince is a fine figure of a man!" That is still true.
Look at the guys here falling apart while still relatively young. I go on hikes by myself in the hills carrying 40 pounds of camera gear.
What the hell is safety fat? I thought I was getting a bit of beer gut but now I realize it's safety fat. I fell better about myself already.
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Both can walk. I can walk. None of us can for long distances. I use a ped monitor at work and walk a total of six miles in a 9 hour shift. Just not all at once.
You sound like you are doing ok. You are 70 right? You are not 25 anymore.
I can't walk long distances without pain either, particularly on hard surfaces. Forget Disneyland.
I just don't do it.
I don't ski (never did but would not take it up). I do not skateboard. I avoid activities that could mess me up.
6 miles at work is great. That's a lot.
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PELLIUS, Here in LV marijuana for medical purposes is legal, so a friend of mine who has a medical marijuana card gave me a $40 marijuana choclate candy bar,
I took one bite about the size of a postage stamp and ended up laughing too damn much at the dinner table of a very fancy LV restaurant so I gotta admit that it was enjoyable and ..... I didn't have to inhale any smoke which always gets me coughing.
The rest of that candy bar was put away in case I need it for any sort of pain, but I have been pain free ever since that fancy restaurant in which I laughed a lot.
I'm not positive buy maybe this edible MJ stuff has long term effects and may help if you give it a try.
I have not read most of the above, so maybe you already have.
But I'll let you know if I ever have to take another bite of that $40
chocolate bar.
Do you have medical MJ in Hawaii yet?
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Shows what a simpleton you are. I seldom have pasta and almost never drink alcohol.
I carry some safety fat on an otherwise muscular body. Solid and strong.
The parents of a mate once remarked, "Vince is a fine figure of a man!" That is still true.
Look at the guys here falling apart while still relatively young. I go on hikes by myself in the hills carrying 40 pounds of camera gear.
What exactly does "safety fat" mean?
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You sound like you are doing ok. You are 70 right? You are not 25 anymore.
I can't walk long distances without pain either, particularly on hard surfaces. Forget Disneyland.
I just don't do it.
I don't ski (never did but would not take it up). I do not skateboard. I avoid activities that could mess me up.
6 miles at work is great. That's a lot.
Occasionally if I do too much walking at one time, neuropathy kicks in and my foot or feet become numb. It's not a pleasant feeling.
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What exactly does "safety fat" mean?
That's for if you get stranded on a desert island with no food so you can last until rescue.
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If you have ever had any SURVIVAL TRAINING while in the military you might recall that you were trained to eat the skinny guy in the life-boat first because he will be the first to die anyway due to the fact that he lacks 'safety fat'.
The fat guy will always be the last man standing and live to serve another day. I seem to recall that that was referred to as Economy of Forces.
It was sort of like natural triage!
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If you have ever had any SURVIVAL TRAINING while in the military you might recall that you were trained to eat the skinny guy in the life-boat first because he will be the first to die anyway due to the fact that he lacks 'safety fat'.
The fat guy will always be the last man standing and live to serve another day. I seem to recall that that was referred to as Economy of Forces.
It was sort of like natural triage!
So now I know the meaning of the words, but I still have no idea why someone in Vince's situation would ever need it.
Do you remember a story about the couple who became lost in "the bush" in British Columbia? They survived the ordeal mainly because they were both overweight. This was back in the late 60's or early 70's.
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PRIME, Yep .... that is one of the prime things you learn in Survival school, but now due to being politically correct ... or for a number of unknown reasons .... it may not be valid.
And I don't recall if eating the skinny guy was actually justifiable.
Nor do I even think that such action was even mentioned within the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
So don't get ship-wrecked unless you're the fattest dude in the boat!
You have brrn warned.
I winder what Go4 has to say about this? He's pretty damn lean witout that safety fat!
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PRIME, Yep .... that is one of the prime things you learn in Survival school, but now due to being politically correct ... or for a number of unknown reasons .... it may not be valid.
And I don't recall if eating the skinny guy was actually justifiable.
Nor do I even think that such action was even mentioned within the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
So don't get ship-wrecked unless you're the fattest dude in the boat!
You have brrn warned.
I winder what Go4 has to say about this? He's pretty damn lean witout that safety fat!
Not only that, but think about how many overweight people there must be on those cruise ships. ;) Hmm, wonder if old folks like myself are in greater danger of being cannibalized in those situations?
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I carry some safety fat on an otherwise muscular body. Solid and strong.
"Safety" FAT & MUSCULAR body ::) ::) ::)
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The parents of a mate once remarked, "Vince is a fine figure of a man!" That is still true.
When was that ? 1970 ::)
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What exactly does "safety fat" mean?
Someone in the muscle magazines recommended keeping some fat on the body for the times you get sick and lose weight.
The extra fat will suffice and you won't lose much size. That is the safe way of keeping perhaps 10 pounds of fat for stressful times.
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Someone in the muscle magazines recommended keeping some fat on the body for the times you get sick and lose weight.
The extra fat will suffice and you won't lose much size. That is the safe way of keeping perhaps 10 pounds of fat for stressful times.
What a lame excuse, you carry way more fat. Your bf% is at least 20-25%
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What a lame excuse, you carry way more fat. Your bf% is at least 20-25%
Pellius inspired me to go out today and take some risks. I wanted to get to a 'lookout' but there are no paths there and you have to cross a ravine as well.
So away I went up to the Blue Mountains west of Sydney. Long hike carrying about 25 pounds of camera equipment and liquids. There was only one place to cross a small
creek otherwise cliff walls prevented crossing. I made it to the 'lookout' and took a lot of panoramas. I gave myself 2 hours to get back before sunset. I chose to return via a slightly
different way and missed the crossing. So I spent half an hour going up and down looking. Eventually I found it but sweated a lot...my clothes were soaking wet. During the
search I came to a tricky place above the ravine. I was close to the edge but had to use my grip to hold onto rocks to get by. Crazy stuff that I wouldn't
normally do. No one knew where I was and I was on my own. I must get an emergency transmitter to carry with me at all times.
I had to lie down and rest several times as it was uphill most of the way. Made it to my car at 5 pm which was after sunset in the mountains. Photo later.
I just had to do something that Pellius could no longer do. So I blame him for the inspiration.
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Pellius inspired me to go out today and take some risks. I wanted to get to a 'lookout' but there are no paths there and you have to cross a ravine as well.
So away I went up to the Blue Mountains west of Sydney. Long hike carrying about 25 pounds of camera equipment and liquids. There was only one place to cross a small
creek otherwise cliff walls prevented crossing. I made it to the 'lookout' and took a lot of panoramas. I gave myself 2 hours to get back before sunset. I chose to return via a slightly
different way and missed the crossing. So I spent half an hour going up and down looking. Eventually I found it but sweated a lot...my clothes were soaking wet. During the
search I came to a tricky place above the ravine. I was close to the edge but had to use my grip to hold onto rocks to get by. Crazy stuff that I wouldn't
normally do. No one knew where I was and I was on my own. I must get an emergency transmitter to carry with me at all times.
I had to lie down and rest several times as it was uphill most of the way. Made it to my car at 5 pm which was after sunset in the mountains. Photo later.
I just had to do something that Pellius could no longer do. So I blame him for the inspiration.
Are you in Queensland? Place must be great for hiking.
I know that you're a strong individual, but why would you take to risk to hike alone? I mean, what if you fall from a rock or get bitten by a snake?
25 pounds of baggage is a lot in a hot environment like that. 10-max 15% of body fat should be sufficient, as long as you manage your calorie, water & sodium intake during a trip.
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Pellius inspired me to go out today and take some risks. I wanted to get to a 'lookout' but there are no paths there and you have to cross a ravine as well.
So away I went up to the Blue Mountains west of Sydney. Long hike carrying about 25 pounds of camera equipment and liquids. There was only one place to cross a small
creek otherwise cliff walls prevented crossing. I made it to the 'lookout' and took a lot of panoramas. I gave myself 2 hours to get back before sunset. I chose to return via a slightly
different way and missed the crossing. So I spent half an hour going up and down looking. Eventually I found it but sweated a lot...my clothes were soaking wet. During the
search I came to a tricky place above the ravine. I was close to the edge but had to use my grip to hold onto rocks to get by. Crazy stuff that I wouldn't
normally do. No one knew where I was and I was on my own. I must get an emergency transmitter to carry with me at all times.
I had to lie down and rest several times as it was uphill most of the way. Made it to my car at 5 pm which was after sunset in the mountains. Photo later.
I just had to do something that Pellius could no longer do. So I blame him for the inspiration.
Good job, Vince! I may not have much safety fat and look better on the beach but I have to admit
that you have me beat. Maybe one day when I get my knee replaced I'll be able to keep up with you
climbing those hills.
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Are you in Queensland? Place must be great for hiking.
I know that you're a strong individual, but why would you take to risk to hike alone? I mean, what if you fall from a rock or get bitten by a snake?
25 pounds of baggage is a lot in a hot environment like that. 10-max 15% of body fat should be sufficient, as long as you manage your calorie, water & sodium intake during a trip.
We have our cool season in Sydney now. In the mountains today it was about 50 degrees F or 10 degrees C. I have never seen a snake in all the years I have been hiking in Australia.
I always take less fluids than I need. Two 600ml drinks were not enough. I sweated more than that.
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Exciting Vince.
Too much risk though. Glad you made it back.
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Exciting Vince.
Too much risk though. Glad you made it back.
First time in my life I was lost. Well I didn’t know where the crossing was because there was another similar rock formation that led me astray. I wasted over half an hour before I got lucky. At one point I had to cling onto rocks with nothing to grip on and put a foot where I could scramble over the crevice. If I lost my grip I would still be at the bottom smashed against rocks. That was the riskiest thing I have ever done. Trouble was I was hunched over under part of a ledge and I couldn’t back up. Backpack a worry for balance and I had to put the tripod down. I was going the wrong way as well! I decided to head up the canyon and about 100 meters away I found the crossing. By this time the area I was in was in the shade. Then I had to scramble up a long slippery hill. I needed several long rests and watched the sun fading away on Mount Banks. I was very wet and relieved to sit in my car again.
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Safety fat. Man stranded on an uncharted island lives for 6 months off his fat reserves. All the fit men die in a month.
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What a lame excuse, you carry way more fat. Your bf% is at least 20-25%
Higher.
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VINCE, I love hiking and do it often, but why is it necessary to carry 25 pounds of photo gear unless you are shooting for National Geographic.
Even some of tose Lord of the Rings shots down New Zeland way were photographed with much lighter equiment.
I suggest that you consider a Hero GoPro 6 or some other lightwt device for your next treking adventure.
But I'd like to commend you about that shot of Zane standing on a hill with the beach in the background. What lens/camera did you use?
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First time in my life I was lost. Well I didn’t know where the crossing was because there was another similar rock formation that led me astray. I wasted over half an hour before I got lucky. At one point I had to cling onto rocks with nothing to grip on and put a foot where I could scramble over the crevice. If I lost my grip I would still be at the bottom smashed against rocks. That was the riskiest thing I have ever done. Trouble was I was hunched over under part of a ledge and I couldn’t back up. Backpack a worry for balance and I had to put the tripod down. I was going the wrong way as well! I decided to head up the canyon and about 100 meters away I found the crossing. By this time the area I was in was in the shade. Then I had to scramble up a long slippery hill. I needed several long rests and watched the sun fading away on Mount Banks. I was very wet and relieved to sit in my car again.
so you did not plan on climbing dangerous rocks, but you got to a kind of "point of no return" ? :)
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A real fast interrupt here for Vince B.
If you ever get up to Hawaii, take a trek on the Na Pali coast trail ino Kaolalau Valley. Most likely one of the most spectacular hikes in the USA.
Here ae two photos. The beach shot with the waterfall in the background is te final destination.
The waterfall is a shower used for cleaning up after a difficult hike. And there is a wet cave which is spectacular and a dry cave where most hikers stay during inclement weather.
And you can even hunt for wild pigs if so inclined.
GO4 sees this spectacular coastline from his ship once a week I believe, but you gotta hike it to really see its beauty.
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A real fast interrupt here for Vince B.
If you ever get up to Hawaii, take a trek on the Na Pali coast trail ino Kaolalau Valley. Most likely one of the most spectacular hikes in the USA.
Here ae two photos. The beach shot with the waterfall in the background is te final destination.
The waterfall is a shower used for cleaning up after a difficult hike. And there is a wet cave which is spectacular and a dry cave where most hikers stay during inclement weather.
And you can even hunt for wild pigs if so inclined.
GO4 sees this spectacular coastline from his ship once a week I believe, but you gotta hike it to really see its beauty.
Lots of people on my ship with "safety fat" and yes Na Pali coast is stunningly beautiful never get tired of seeing it every week.
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I'm sure that technology where you can grow your own cartilage is coming along if not already possible. I'm just suspicious that it won't be brought to market because it will put all those fake knees out of business and make a dent in pain killer both OTC and prescription.
Most likely the sad truth.
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Someone in the muscle magazines recommended keeping some fat on the body for the times you get sick and lose weight.
The extra fat will suffice and you won't lose much size. That is the safe way of keeping perhaps 10 pounds of fat for stressful times.
Thanks for the explanation about safety fat. Do you agree with this theory? Have you ever been sick enough that it caused you to use your safety fat to get well? Is it okay to shed safety fat when getting into bodybuilding competition condition?
My current weight fluctuates between 172 lbs and 178 lbs. I assume most of the gain or loss is water weight. It is rare that I get sick, but when I do, my metabolism slows down. I do not remember ever losing weight because I was ill. At 29 years of age I reached my maximum weight, which was 225 lbs. I hate to admit it, but too much of it was safety fat and not muscle. During that time, my day to day fluctuation in weight was higher than it is now.
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Pellius inspired me to go out today and take some risks. I wanted to get to a 'lookout' but there are no paths there and you have to cross a ravine as well.
So away I went up to the Blue Mountains west of Sydney. Long hike carrying about 25 pounds of camera equipment and liquids. There was only one place to cross a small
creek otherwise cliff walls prevented crossing. I made it to the 'lookout' and took a lot of panoramas. I gave myself 2 hours to get back before sunset. I chose to return via a slightly
different way and missed the crossing. So I spent half an hour going up and down looking. Eventually I found it but sweated a lot...my clothes were soaking wet. During the
search I came to a tricky place above the ravine. I was close to the edge but had to use my grip to hold onto rocks to get by. Crazy stuff that I wouldn't
normally do. No one knew where I was and I was on my own. I must get an emergency transmitter to carry with me at all times.
I had to lie down and rest several times as it was uphill most of the way. Made it to my car at 5 pm which was after sunset in the mountains. Photo later.
I just had to do something that Pellius could no longer do. So I blame him for the inspiration.
It's good that you survived. Some people don't when they try to do more than their bodies can take. I cannot tell you how many times someone has gone missing on Mt. Hood or in the Cascades and no one had a clue where they were or that they'd gone hiking. Always, always give someone your itinerary when taking such a trek. You know better than to go out like you did, on your own and with nobody knowing where you were. Are emergency transmitters failsafe? Cell phones often become useless, either because the battery craps out or there's no signal.
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First time in my life I was lost. Well I didn’t know where the crossing was because there was another similar rock formation that led me astray. I wasted over half an hour before I got lucky. At one point I had to cling onto rocks with nothing to grip on and put a foot where I could scramble over the crevice. If I lost my grip I would still be at the bottom smashed against rocks. That was the riskiest thing I have ever done. Trouble was I was hunched over under part of a ledge and I couldn’t back up. Backpack a worry for balance and I had to put the tripod down. I was going the wrong way as well! I decided to head up the canyon and about 100 meters away I found the crossing. By this time the area I was in was in the shade. Then I had to scramble up a long slippery hill. I needed several long rests and watched the sun fading away on Mount Banks. I was very wet and relieved to sit in my car again.
get yourself a pad of fluro pink post it notes and some long thumb tacs to mark your trail next time. My sister does this and does some crazy hikes in weird places.
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I carry some safety fat on an otherwise muscular body. Solid and strong.
"Safety fat" on human body don't exist , any fat is NOT healthy.
In reality , Cornutto could not sprint 100m :D.
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"Safety fat" on human body don't exist , any fat is NOT healthy.
In reality , Cornutto could not sprint 100m :D.
Are you saying that being at "zero" percent body fat is healthy?
There's a reason why your body likes fat and makes it so easy to get. Not the same with muscle.
Your body only wants the minimal amount of muscle that it needs and gets rid of it so easily.
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Visceral fat = DANGEROUS ;)
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get yourself a pad of fluro pink post it notes and some long thumb tacs to mark your trail next time. My sister does this and does some crazy hikes in weird places.
Good tip. I worked one summer for the forest industry in BC. We used red ribbons to mark our route. I also used a compass effectively. It had a mirror on it. I also own a GPS unit but used it once. Ditto for gps on my phone. Used too much battery. The rock formation I was looking for stood out. Trouble was there was more than one similar formation. Easy to get lost in that thick forest. You know the direction you are heading but not the exact route.
Here is a photo of the rock formation and bush surrounding it.
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"Safety fat" on human body don't exist , any fat is NOT healthy.
In reality , Cornutto could not sprint 100m :D.
of course he could do such a sprint, but he would have a heart attack.
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of course he could do such a sprint, but he would have a heart attack.
You guys wait until you get older. Unless you continue to do something you tend to lose that ability. No way I can do a sprint. I can’t spin in the discus like I used to. No doubt I could easily catch IC and make mincemeat out of him. By the way he said he would be in Tahiti for the pro surfing. A bs big mouth.
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You guys wait until you get older. Unless you continue to do something you tend to lose that ability. No way I can do a sprint. I can’t spin in the discus like I used to. No doubt I could easily catch IC and make mincemeat out of him. By the way he said he would be in Tahiti for the pro surfing. A bs big mouth.
I assume training on the Bicep Supination Machine maintained your massive arm size and grip strength.
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VINCE, I love hiking and do it often, but why is it necessary to carry 25 pounds of photo gear unless you are shooting for National Geographic.
Even some of tose Lord of the Rings shots down New Zeland way were photographed with much lighter equiment.
I suggest that you consider a Hero GoPro 6 or some other lightwt device for your next treking adventure.
But I'd like to commend you about that shot of Zane standing on a hill with the beach in the background. What lens/camera did you use?
I am into photography. So I have a Sony A7riii with 42 Mp. I want sharp photos with heaps of detail. So I carry telephoto lenses as well as others. The 600mm Canon lens weighs 13 pounds. I don’t carry it often, but when I do distant formations are captured in fine detail.
I found the Zane photo and put him on One Mile Beach at Forster north of Sydney. Big job because I added a shadow.
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I assume training on the Bicep Supination Machine maintained your massive arm size and grip strength.
Supinator is great for biceps. Modified Nautilus for triceps. Neither do much for grip. Using a 9 inch angle grinder making gym equipment is great for grip strength.
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Here is the forest I had to go through to get to the brown patch of heath on the ridge near the middle right. Didn't look that far from here. Slow moving because of rocks and slippery grass and debris. Hills are never easy going up. Not with a heavy back pack.
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To reply to Stuntmovie re why I carry several heavy lenses and a bigger camera.
Here is a photo taken with the 400 mm lens. You can't get this view unless you trek to this lookout area.
This is a panorama of two photos stitched together.
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Here is a crop of the panorama showing the full resolution and hence more detail which is what I want.
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You guys wait until you get older. Unless you continue to do something you tend to lose that ability. No way I can do a sprint. I can’t spin in the discus like I used to. No doubt I could easily catch IC and make mincemeat out of him. By the way he said he would be in Tahiti for the pro surfing. A bs big mouth.
Are you THREATENING ME ?.
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Are you THREATENING ME ?.
What a dope you are.
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VINCE, No geologist here but those are some interesting rock formations and not at all similar to Hawaii 'rocks".
I assume that 'island' was not formed by volcano activity.
Have any of the major motion picture companies ever used that terraine for any motion pictures we might have seen.
My nephew was involved in some of the major rustic scenes that were shot in New Zealand for those Lord of the Rings films which involved a lot of expensive helicopter flights, but now you can shoot those same scenes cheaply with a pro 'video' camera and a top notch drone.
Have you ever considered shooting 4K videos using a drone for that rustic terraine?
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Shows what a simpleton you are. I seldom have pasta and almost never drink alcohol.
I carry some safety fat on an otherwise muscular body. Solid and strong.
The parents of a mate once remarked, "Vince is a fine figure of a man!" That is still true.
Look at the guys here falling apart while still relatively young. I go on hikes by myself in the hills carrying 40 pounds of camera gear.
stop lying to yourself. you are fat & overweight. can't believe you write this shit.
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VINCE, No geologist here but those are some interesting rock formations and not at all similar to Hawaii 'rocks".
I assume that 'island' was not formed by volcano activity.
Have any of the major motion picture companies ever used that terraine for any motion pictures we might have seen.
My nephew was involved in some of the major rustic scenes that were shot in New Zealand for those Lord of the Rings films which involved a lot of expensive helicopter flights, but now you can shoot those same scenes cheaply with a pro 'video' camera and a top notch drone.
Have you ever considered shooting 4K videos using a drone for that rustic terraine?
Australia is mostly sandstone. There was plenty of volcanic activity down the east coast to Tasmania that formed mountains.
I haven’t considered a drone. If you search YouTube there are many 4K videos of Australia.
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Nice pics, Vince.
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Nice pics, Vince.
X2, he found a nice passion
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What a dope you are.
Get real, U A delusional OLD man, today is 2018 NOT 1970 ::)
Guess WHO is paying me ;D ;)
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Nice pics, Vince.
Thanks. Here is a photo self-taken with a remote on my camera up the hill. Took a lot of nerve to climb out there. 100 meter drop on three sides. I was there on my own late in the day. Took me several hours to hike back to my car and got there after 10 pm at night. I had a flashlight so it wasn't too bad. Backpack was digging into my shoulders so a really painful journey carrying the 35 pounds or so that day.
Hanging Rock is at Blackheath in the Blue Mountains near Sydney. 5 mile walk to the Rock.
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Get real, U A delusional OLD man, today is 2018 NOT 1970 ::)
Guess WHO is paying me ;D ;)
You are a simple patsy. Hope this helps!
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Thanks. Here is a photo self-taken with a remote on my camera up the hill. Took a lot of nerve to climb out there. 100 meter drop on three sides. I was there on my own late in the day. Took me several hours to hike back to my car and got there after 10 pm at night. I had a flashlight so it wasn't too bad. Backpack was digging into my shoulders so a really painful journey carrying the 35 pounds or so that day.
Hanging Rock is at Blackheath in the Blue Mountains near Sydney. 5 mile walk to the Rock.
Wow.
Did you jump across that crevasse?
You got more cojones than me.
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You are a simple patsy. Hope this helps!
Booooooooooooooring ::)
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Wow.
Did you jump across that crevasse?
You got more cojones than me.
Yes but it is about a yard across. Big drop if you miss. That formation could collapse at any time. I saw a photo of someone sitting out there so I put it on my bucket list.
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Any grandma can make to the summit of Mt.Kosciusko (2228 m), the Top of Australia 8)
Great place for the Canonballing :D
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Any grandma can make to the summit of Mt.Kosciusko (2228 m), the Top of Australia 8)
Great place for the Canonballing :D
Any grandma can't do this! Photo found on the internet. Shows a brave guy sitting near the end of the rock. You can see how precarious it is with a drop of a few hundred meters on three sides.
I went as far as I could but still have my boots touch the rock below my feet. This guy is way beyond that. I can tell you it takes a lot of nerve to do it with no one else around.
Do a search online and you will find some daredevils standing out there.
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I found a photo of a guy standing out there. Now this is either crazy or very brave. I edited the photo of course.
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This guy is way beyond that. I can tell you it takes a lot of nerve to do it with no one else around.
Who took the photo then?
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Not quite at Ronnie Coleman's level but I sure feeling the effects of age and life style. I just got a second opinion from a doctor and she said the same thing, I need knee replacement surgery.
I also got a full body bone scan/survey and it explains a lot as to why I am always so stiff and sore. Most is Greek to me like"tug lesions" and "chondrocalcinosis" and I haven't looked it up yet. Well, I did look up "tug lesions" but still don't know what it is. This was the report:
There are multilevel degenerative changes of the cervical, thoracic and
lumbar spine. There are degenerative changes of the bilateral shoulders,
bilateral hips and bilateral knees. There are extensive atherosclerotic
vascular calcifications. Soft tissue calcifications are seen adjacent to
the proximal to mid humeri, the bilateral hips and the bilateral lower
extremities, nonspecific in etiology. A prominent tug lesion is seen along
the medial aspect of the mid diaphysis of the left femur. Suture anchors
are seen within the greater tuberosity of the left humerus. There are old
healed right and left rib fractures. Heel spurs on both right and left heels.
Faint soft tissue calcifications are seen within the bilateral knee joints, most
consistent with chondrocalcinosis.
Interpreted by: Jason Merchant, MD
You probably have genetic problems stemming from your races ancestral practice of incest.
Lucky for you this was eradicated when whites arrived. Other wise you might have looked more like the arabic frog babies. (Although you clearly have some similarities to them still).
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You probably have genetic problems stemming from your races ancestral practice of incest.
Lucky for you this was eradicated when whites arrived. Other wise you might have looked more like the arabic frog babies. (Although you clearly have some similarities to them still).
Again everything gets back to sexual perversion. With you, all roads led to incest, pedophilia and homosexuality. It's something that consumes your every waking moment.
You were molested as a child. You are ambivalent because you felt violated but on another level you enjoyed it. This torments you. Get help. You can beat this and become whole again.
Many gays reminisce about the first time they were fucked by men (when they were boys) with great pleasure.... (a total rejection of your theory that THAT would be bad)...
are you ready to re-evaluate?
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But you're not just a "physical" wreck are you...
it's also your mind
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What do you attribute that to? Is it your mongoloid fascination with white children?
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But you're not just a "physical" wreck are you...
it's also your mind
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What do you attribute that to? Is it your mongoloid fascination with white children?
You got fuked by a man as a boy. It torments your every waking moment. You're obsessed with sexual perversion. It's all you post about. Even if it's not the subject there are always pedo/gay overtones. How often do I post about white children? I've never had sex with a teen or preteen ever. Nobody here really believes that I have. Not even you. But you still persist in your fantasy. You so want to believe it. So you don't feel so alone.
You've had a dick in your mouth and in your ass at a time when you weren't emotionally ready. We get it. Do something about it. Get help and learn to accept what you have become and just move on.
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hahahahahha lol
dude i am genuinely laughing my ass off behind this keyboard
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Not quite at Ronnie Coleman's level but I sure feeling the effects of age and life style. I just got a second opinion from a doctor and she said the same thing, I need knee replacement surgery.
I also got a full body bone scan/survey and it explains a lot as to why I am always so stiff and sore. Most is Greek to me like"tug lesions" and "chondrocalcinosis" and I haven't looked it up yet. Well, I did look up "tug lesions" but still don't know what it is. This was the report:
There are multilevel degenerative changes of the cervical, thoracic and
lumbar spine. There are degenerative changes of the bilateral shoulders,
bilateral hips and bilateral knees. There are extensive atherosclerotic
vascular calcifications. Soft tissue calcifications are seen adjacent to
the proximal to mid humeri, the bilateral hips and the bilateral lower
extremities, nonspecific in etiology. A prominent tug lesion is seen along
the medial aspect of the mid diaphysis of the left femur. Suture anchors
are seen within the greater tuberosity of the left humerus. There are old
healed right and left rib fractures. Heel spurs on both right and left heels.
Faint soft tissue calcifications are seen within the bilateral knee joints, most
consistent with chondrocalcinosis.
Interpreted by: Jason Merchant, MD
Lots of walking, stretching and an organic plant based diet with wild caught meats/fish and plenty of rest will allow your body to heal itself.
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Lots of walking, stretching and an organic plant based diet with wild caught meats/fish and plenty of rest will allow your body to heal itself.
I guess you haven't kept up with the thread. I need knee replacement surgery and one of the reasons is that I can't walk for long distances. Since I've always been involved in martial arts I have stretched regularly for decades and I'm sure I'm more flexible than the majority on here. I can still touch my head to my knees while keeping my legs straight, get in the lotus position, and though I can no longer do a full split I can get pretty damn close. I get plenty of sleep. Make sure I allot 8 hours every night and take naps on my day off. Rest doesn't rebuild cartilage, worn joints and compressed disks. Nor does eating plants and "wild" caught meat and fish.
Old age always gets the better of everyone. Everyone. Check back with me when you are 60 years old.
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I guess you haven't kept up with the thread. I need knee replacement surgery and one of the reasons is that I can't walk for long distances. Since I've always been involved in martial arts I have stretched regularly for decades and I'm sure I'm more flexible than the majority on here. I can still touch my head to my knees while keeping my legs straight, get in the lotus position, and though I can no longer do a full split I can get pretty damn close. I get plenty of sleep. Make sure I allot 8 hours every night and take naps on my day off. Rest doesn't rebuild cartilage, worn joints and compressed disks. Nor does eating plants and "wild" caught meat and fish.
Old age always gets the better of everyone. Everyone. Check back with me when you are 60 years old.
Dude you should look into the carnivore diet, listen to Rogans podcast a few days ago with Jordan Peterson, his daughter has severe arthritis since she was a child, she has had a few of her joints replaced, she has been on arthritis meds, antidepressants, and all kinds of various other prescription meds including Adderall , since she has been on the carnivore diet, literally everything has been cured, she is on zero meds, is able to workout and train, it has completely changed her life. There is numerous others who have adopted this way of eating and it is healing tons of various ailments. Look into a site called meatheals.com
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Dude you should look into the carnivore diet, listen to Rogans podcast a few days ago with Jordan Peterson, his daughter has severe arthritis since she was a child, she has had a few of her joints replaced, she has been on arthritis meds, antidepressants, and all kinds of various other prescription meds including Adderall , since she has been on the carnivore diet, literally everything has been cured, she is on zero meds, is able to workout and train, it has completely changed her life. There is numerous others who have adopted this way of eating and it is healing tons of various ailments. Look into a site called meatheals.com
Some argue that an acidic diet is bad for joints, such as one with a lot of red meat.
Apparently, red meat is one of the worst for arthritis.
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Some argue that an acidic diet is bad for joints, such as one with a lot of red meat.
Apparently, red meat is one of the worst for arthritis.
Hmm, never heard this before.
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BTW, I'm thinking of asking my doctor for the stronger stuff. The opiods because Matt C. said that some of them are harmless on your kidneys. Know anything about this?
Try the slow release version of Tramadol - one tablet of 100 mg a couple of days a week does it for me. Not everybody find this opiod useful, but for me its the most useful drug ever against kneepains and other aches. It also gives me an energy boost for the whole day and most of the day after as well.
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you know Pellius, when it comes to me all you did was say how out of shape I am, how ugly I am, etc etc. I have ZERO joint issues, no pains, not on meds other than my crazy pills, and we are only a few years apart. Interesting how that goes
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Dude you should look into the carnivore diet, listen to Rogans podcast a few days ago with Jordan Peterson, his daughter has severe arthritis since she was a child, she has had a few of her joints replaced, she has been on arthritis meds, antidepressants, and all kinds of various other prescription meds including Adderall , since she has been on the carnivore diet, literally everything has been cured, she is on zero meds, is able to workout and train, it has completely changed her life. There is numerous others who have adopted this way of eating and it is healing tons of various ailments. Look into a site called meatheals.com
Incidentally I listened to her story yesterday:
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Dude you should look into the carnivore diet, listen to Rogans podcast a few days ago with Jordan Peterson, his daughter has severe arthritis since she was a child, she has had a few of her joints replaced, she has been on arthritis meds, antidepressants, and all kinds of various other prescription meds including Adderall , since she has been on the carnivore diet, literally everything has been cured, she is on zero meds, is able to workout and train, it has completely changed her life. There is numerous others who have adopted this way of eating and it is healing tons of various ailments. Look into a site called meatheals.com
Meat diet, fruit diet, plant diet, organic diet... and all claim someone else has found a miracle cure. My condition is sports related. I had 95% of my cartilage removed back in 1995. It's bone on bone. After over a decade of being slam on a mat I have a compressed disk and spine degeneration. Eating is going to cure that. Food is 3 things: protein, carbs and fats. It's not that complicated. It doesn't matter to the body if it's red meat or egg whites, it all gets broken down into amino acid. Same with carbs: oatmeal, spinach, jelly beans -- all gets broken down into blood sugar. Now with carbs it does make a difference via insulin response and process meats with all those chemicals can't be good for you. I eat McDonalds burgers guilt free constantly but won't touch a Hot Dog or a Sub sandwich. But the main health issue with food is people eat too much. They are fat. Those rice paddy Asians eat mostly simple carbs -- rice. But they rarely have heart disease and are in a full squat all day. But they are not playing football or MMA and they are not fat.
If the Carnivore diet cures all these maladies then it is inherently good for your health and is the optimal diet we all should be one. Are you on the Carnivore diet?
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Try the slow release version of Tramadol - one tablet of 100 mg a couple of days a week does it for me. Not everybody find this opiod useful, but for me its the most useful drug ever against kneepains and other aches. It also gives me an energy boost for the whole day and most of the day after as well.
Is it OTC? And is it easy on the kidneys. Recall that ibuprofin works great for me but Tylenol does nothing.
They relieve pain by different pathways. But advil is bad for kidneys and Tylenol stresses the liver. I would much rather stress the liver because it can regenerate. Kidneys don't come back.
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Is it OTC? And is it easy on the kidneys.
OTC depends where you live I suppose, here in south-america it's over the counter. Easy on kindneys and liver to my knowledge. This drug should not be abused though, so I keep my upper limit to max 300 mg per week and usually not above 200 mg. It works synergetic with coffee and paracetamol if you need more of the pain killing effect.
I don't like the effect of the usual tramadol capsules so I'm talking about the XTR version here.
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you know Pellius, when it comes to me all you did was say how out of shape I am, how ugly I am, etc etc. I have ZERO joint issues, no pains, not on meds other than my crazy pills, and we are only a few years apart. Interesting how that goes
All I did was say how out of shape you are? I'm not even sure who you are and you only have 7 posts.
But I've made it abundantly clear, crystal clear, that if your goal in life is to be safe and healthy. To avoid
all forms of intense physical exertion and never challenge yourself and try to take yourself to your limit, then of course you will fare much better physically. My aunt has a 1998 Ford Fiesta with only 25,000 miles on it. It's like brand new. She hardly uses it. Most cars are in the junk yard. So look back on your life and asked yourself did you, are you, getting the most out of it? Are you living it or just existing in it? Everything in life is temporary, even you will eventually get old and have similar problems. We all die. But what did you do before that. That's why I don't criticize Ronnie Coleman. Yes, he speeded up the aging process but he wouldn't have it any other way. He lived his dream. He was what he wanted to become even though it was temporary -- like everything is.
So now he's hobbling around like an old man. Like we all will one day if we don't die young. But he has something that you don't. Maybe it doesn't matter to you but it does to him. To each his own. I hope you are happy and enjoying life.
BTW, you mentioned "crazy pill". I would much rather my body go than my mind. And I believe how you live your life determines to a large extent your mental health. When someone has a purpose in life, a desire, a motivation, to achieve something. To be something. To break free from the pack -- or at least try to. I think that puts you in a much healthier state of mind than just getting through the day. Ronnie did what he did because he had to. He'd go crazy if he was denied being in the gym throwing those weights around. Even his doctor said that lifting weights like he does isn't good for him but in another sense it is. It's what he does. I remember Arnold once commenting that there's more to life than just eating, sleeping and taking a crap. He could easily just kick back, bang hotties, go to fancy restaurants, travel, sleep in... but he doesn't. It's not in his nature.
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Any grandma can't do this! Photo found on the internet. Shows a brave guy sitting near the end of the rock. You can see how precarious it is with a drop of a few hundred meters on three sides.
I went as far as I could but still have my boots touch the rock below my feet. This guy is way beyond that. I can tell you it takes a lot of nerve to do it with no one else around.
Do a search online and you will find some daredevils standing out there.
Yeah, U need super balls to seat at the end of the rock like that guy.
Go to Balmoral & walk by Awaba St., from the beach to Spit Rd ., stiffest street in Sydney (65%) incline.
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Some argue that an acidic diet is bad for joints, such as one with a lot of red meat.
Apparently, red meat is one of the worst for arthritis.
Say that to his daughter, who experienced the opposite.
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Say that to his daughter, who experienced the opposite.
Just saying what I've read, I do have steak and meat several days a week though, but I feel better with fish.
Personally, I feel fish is more healthy.
I also use apple cider vinegar, which can apparently also help reduce acidity in the body and make it more alkaline.
High acidity can lead to inflammation and disease, skin issues and joint pain, at least from the perspective of an alkaline diet.
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Some argue that an acidic diet is bad for joints, such as one with a lot of red meat.
Apparently, red meat is one of the worst for arthritis.
Just do some research on the carnivore diet and you'll come across numerous stories of people being healed of all kinds of issues, pain, autoimmune issues, different diseases. It's legit and sustainable. Beef is one of the most nutrient dense foods a human can consume.
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Just do some research on the carnivore diet and you'll come across numerous stories of people being healed of all kinds of issues, pain, autoimmune issues, different diseases. It's legit and sustainable. Beef is one of the most nutrient dense foods a human can consume.
Well, cousin Neanderthal was 90% meat eater to :-[
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Are you on statins because they can cause all kinds of the problems you have described.
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Are you on statins because they can cause all kinds of the problems you have described.
I am on a statin. Have been for 36 years. It would be a major shock to my system if I quit taking it.
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Statins lower cholesterol but there is no real evidence lower cholesterol has any benefit and statins can have bad side effects.
If Pellius is on statins they could be causing him problems. He has a lot of problems.
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Which affect like 1% of users. They've been proven to lower LDL and raise HDL, which have A LOT to do with health. What sides? I take lipitor 10mg and don't feel any different. Cite your shit, man, this is sloppy generalization that we see on CNN and other fake news.
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Lots of broscience in this thread. Thank goodness Pellius does his own research.
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Statins lower cholesterol but there is no real evidence lower cholesterol has any benefit and statins can have bad side effects.
If Pellius is on statins they could be causing him problems. He has a lot of problems.
I am not, nor have ever been, on statins. My cholesterol is always on the low side and so is my blood pressure. My issues with pain have nothing to do with internal function. It's worn out joints. Something that happens to everyone to varying degrees as they get older. You don't have to lift weights or do MMA to end up needing knee replacement. The vast majority of knee replacements are done on just ordinary people that have just gotten old.
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Which affect like 1% of users. They've been proven to lower LDL and raise HDL, which have A LOT to do with health. What sides? I take lipitor 10mg and don't feel any different. Cite your shit, man, this is sloppy generalization that we see on CNN and other fake news.
The one thing I remember is that statins while it inhibits the production of cholesterol it also inhibits the production of Co Q10.
https://www.healthline.com/health/coq10-and-statins
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Lots of broscience in this thread. Thank goodness Pellius does his own research.
says the Right one. your broscience is the worst. ::)
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I remember a doctor explaining that the common way to measure cholesterol is not the most accurate and not an ideal measure for cardiovascular risks. This is most commonly done because it's much cheaper than the more accurate way. I wish I remembered the terms used for both methods. An analogy would be that, say, your artery is a freeway and cars and passengers represent cholesterol. The first, less accurate way, measures the amount of passengers on the freeway. The second, the much better way, measure the amount of actual vehicles on the freeway. Of course there is a correlation. The more passengers you have is an indication to how many vehicles there are, but, as the saying goes, correlation is not causation. It's the amount of actual vehicles on the freeway that determines how things flow. Having one vehicle carrying six passengers causes less obstruction than six cars carrying one passenger each.
When I get time I'll try to look it up so I'll know what each test is called and maybe it can be recommended to your doctor for you next blood test.
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The one thing I remember is that statins while it inhibits the production of cholesterol it also inhibits the production of Co Q10.
https://www.healthline.com/health/coq10-and-statins
Which is why CoQ10 is one of the supplements I take daily.
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Lots of broscience in this thread. Thank goodness Pellius does his own research.
Shut up dummy.
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Visceral fat = DANGEROUS ;)
No it's not. An over abundance maybe but not visceral fat by definition.
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I think I can now graduate from Medical School after reading all this stuff.
Has there ever been any "bro-science" stuff that has been mediacally proven to be accurate and useful?
I always consider Bro-science to be associated with stupidity, but I'm stupid enough to be proven wrong.
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No it's not. An over abundance maybe but not visceral fat by definition.
Correct, and cigarettes are not bad if you only smoke one every ten years.
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Correct, and cigarettes are not bad if you only smoke one every ten years.
Zero cigarettes and zero visceral fat, makes sense to me. :D
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They're not without their price to pay, but when your tris and ldl are as high as mine and hdl is kissing the pavement, diet and exercise can only get you so far and I do both already after 15 years of gear, mike matarazzo-style dinners, stress, 3 hrs of sleep, etc.
do you have a family history of heart disease?
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It has been three day's since I've had any alcohol to drink. I've yet to have any noticeable withdrawal symptoms and I feel pretty good much like I did a few days ago. I do not miss the scotch yet. I'm anxious to see what the upcoming days and weeks hold.
One of the reasons I'm not drinking is because Coach's low carb diet looks like a plan. - Can't very well reduce carbs when drinking several shots of scotch on an almost nightly basis, often as much as 12-13 oz in an evening. From what I've been read, the fact that I don't experience hangovers is not a good thing. It just means I have a high tolerance to alcohol and that can mean I've been drinking too much and for too long.
I read today that detox can make a person cranky. We me, that might be hard to tell, since I'm so rarely ever cranky. ::) I have been sleeping a lot less which is a feature of detox.
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Statins lower cholesterol but there is no real evidence lower cholesterol has any benefit and statins can have bad side effects.
If Pellius is on statins they could be causing him problems. He has a lot of problems.
Could be, could be a lot of things. Co worker of mine was having chronic aches and pains.. 55 years old.. went to the docs numerous times, they ran a million tests, turns out.. the baby aspirin he was taking everyday was causing his issues. He stopped and about 4 days later he was much better. Who would have thought that? Besides Dr. House after 2 prior guesses.
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Could be, could be a lot of things. Co worker of mine was having chronic aches and pains.. 55 years old.. went to the docs numerous times, they ran a million tests, turns out.. the baby aspirin he was taking everyday was causing his issues. He stopped and about 4 days later he was much better. Who would have thought that? Besides Dr. House after 2 prior guesses.
Did they explain why it was contributing to his aches and pains? I worked in the cardiovascular products industry forever and have always taken a baby aspirin at least four or five times a week (since my 20's).
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I think I can now graduate from Medical School after reading all this stuff.
Has there ever been any "bro-science" stuff that has been mediacally proven to be accurate and useful?
I always consider Bro-science to be associated with stupidity, but I'm stupid enough to be proven wrong.
Depends what we call Bro-science. To me it is all the anecdotal experiences passed on as something that worked.
Trouble is there could be many factors involved in bodybuilding and health. Plus we have individual differences, histories, etc.
Sure, we can listen to what others have to say about themselves, etc., but that isn't science.
Realize that medicine is part science and art....the art via diagnosing ailments. Good medicine should be
based on tested findings via science.
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Did they explain why it was contributing to his aches and pains? I worked in the cardiovascular products industry forever and have always taken a baby aspirin at least four or five times a week (since my 20's).
I take it as well and have no adverse affects. For him, the baby aspirin was causing a negative reaction. He may have had an allergy