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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: stuntmovie on July 12, 2018, 02:24:21 PM
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To start this off, I'm gonna forget to name a good number of GetBiggers (about ten) who seem to know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to bodybuilding in general and bodybuilding competitions in particular.
And I do mean the "inside bodybuilding stuff" and not just what you managed to read about in one of the magazines or gossup collumns such as this GetBig board.
So if you want to add to this list and add the names of those GetBiggers who appear to know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to the world of bodybuilding ..... Jump In!
I do realize that I'm missing a good number of you BB experts, but I'll be surprised if that number grows past 10.
No intent to overlook anyone but these are the few knowledgeable BetBiggers who know this shit ... In my humble opinion.
I'll start off by mentioning, "ME" simply becaise I know this shit backwards, forewards and upside down .... almost forever.
Then I'll say .... CHE.
Then EL DIABLO.
And then ESFITNESS ... whom those outside of this game will completely disagree with.
And then Tres Taco who actually competes
And WIGGS who has personally proven to me that he knows what the fook he is talking about and seeing during the prejudging pahase of an NPC event.
And who the hell is it that conributes stuff and was an employee at Golds Venice a long while back.
And don't hate me too damn much, but I gotta add VINCE B who recalls some of the more interesting shit within this game exactly as I do myseld but am too damn polite to admit it.
And BeefyHvyWt
And right now those are the only dudes who I can recall who seem to know what the hell they are talking about.
I'd add VINCE XYZ but I think that Vince sees himself as of more/greater importance than I think he is. But I could be wrong and hold no offese against Vince other than my belief that some competitors should not appear on stage unless they are dressed in full combat array. (Foul/sub-zero weather combat gear in particular.)
I've actually seen that when one well known pro did his guest posing stint in a long sleeve hoodie and full length sweat-pants.
And to top it all ... he even wore a mask.!
So who feel knows that the fook they are speaking about when it comes to the world of bodybuilding on this board.
Don't think that you cannot list yourself.
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Stunt, I know how to play a blackjack hand. ;D
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Stunt is a rare poster who doesn’t get tarred and feathered here. This might end if he makes too many controversial posts. When I started posting in 1998 I was left alone for a while. Then Goatboy modified one of my photos and things changed after that.
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YEA, But no better than me, FREAK!
Here's a somewhat related Blackjack story.
A few years back I was playing BJ at a $5 table and noticed that the unknown BB sitting to my left was having a problem playing Basic Strategy.
So I explained it to him briefly and he simply nodded and started wsinning and appeared to leave the table with more chips than when he first sat down.
Minutes later a physique competitor took his vacant seat and asked me if I recognized that guy. I said, "No but I'm sure he'll win the physique event coming up this weekend. He appears to be unbeatable."
Then he explained that he was one of the top porn stars from Yougoslovia and could not speak nor know a word of English. He was a cop but was thrown off the force as a result of his gay porn popularity which he had never anticipated.
.... and all the while I thought that he had been winning due to my Basic Strategy advice.
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I`ve been lifting weights since I was 12 years old and weighed 97 pounds ! :(
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I don’t know much about bbing or bbers, but I know about lifting weights. Been doing it since I was 12 yo.
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Thanks, Tex!
Hey WES! I think I overlookd ya!
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I know a lot about lifting (been doing it since I was 9) and Yugoslavian gay porn.
Just kidding about the Yugoslavian gay porn part.
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What are you on about specifically
As in know the inside gossip?
Or
Know how to train & prep?
Or
How to judge a physique?
There’s a few who know a lot about training/ contest prep/ drugs etc
And you’ve missed them.
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stuntmovie is a superior african american bbc
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I`ve been lifting weights since I was 12 years old and weighed 97 pounds ! :(
And you still weigh 97 pounds. How did you accomplish that?
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And you still weigh 97 pounds. How did you accomplish that?
yo park u tryna roll out to chapel thrill dis weekend?
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Like Wes and Stunt, I'm older. As such I know the 40s on up to the 80s. I've a few (still!) living friends that competed in the 60s and on through the early 80s and I did so myself but I don't have the best genetics and didn't want to try steroids for medical reasons.
I doubt they would've made a difference except I would have been larger and stronger but to be honest I wouldn't have been built any better.
I'm not even an expert but I do know what I think looks good. Steve Reeves, Arnold, Zane and Nubret are the types of physiques I think to be ideal.
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stuntmovie is a superior african american bbc
I do believe you've confused him with Woody Strode, sir.
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MARTY, I am far from your description, but I hold no offense.
ILLUMINATi,
Inside Gossip .... NO way because most Gossip is total bullship unless the Gossiper was one of the culprits participating within the gossip.
But I don't think anyone on this Board would admit to wearing a shopping bag around his feet while standing in a bathroom stall.
And please list any GetBigger whom you believe knows what the hell he is talking about regarding training, contest prep, and judging.
I already mentioned that I have overlooked a few, but at the end the total of those who really know this stuff will be no greater than 10.
And I hope that I am mistaken.
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And SCOTT .... Another one I have overlooked based on his past involvement.
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SCOTT, Woody was a good friend of a good friend of mine and I was supposed to meet him when they were prepping for ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST ..... but I was once upon a time in the reverse direction.
I was also supposed to meet Jack Elam but I have long forgotten why that never occured.
By the way, that waiting-for-the-train-to-stop scene was simply improvised by each of those actors with the fly in the pistol being most memorable.
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And who is most reliable regarding roid adice and contest prep?
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stuntmovies posts are the ones actually worth reading on this downright bizarre board. It’s like a golden nugget in a field of manure.
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To start this off, I'm gonna forget to name a good number of GetBiggers (about ten) who seem to know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to bodybuilding in general and bodybuilding competitions in particular.
And I do mean the "inside bodybuilding stuff" and not just what you managed to read about in one of the magazines or gossup collumns such as this GetBig board.
So if you want to add to this list and add the names of those GetBiggers who appear to know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to the world of bodybuilding ..... Jump In!
I do realize that I'm missing a good number of you BB experts, but I'll be surprised if that number grows past 10.
No intent to overlook anyone but these are the few knowledgeable BetBiggers who know this shit ... In my humble opinion.
I'll start off by mentioning, "ME" simply becaise I know this shit backwards, forewards and upside down .... almost forever.
Then I'll say .... CHE.
Then EL DIABLO.
And then ESFITNESS ... whom those outside of this game will completely disagree with.
And then Tres Taco who actually competes
And WIGGS who has personally proven to me that he knows what the fook he is talking about and seeing during the prejudging pahase of an NPC event.
And who the hell is it that conributes stuff and was an employee at Golds Venice a long while back.
And don't hate me too damn much, but I gotta add VINCE B who recalls some of the more interesting shit within this game exactly as I do myseld but am too damn polite to admit it.
And BeefyHvyWt
And right now those are the only dudes who I can recall who seem to know what the hell they are talking about.
I'd add VINCE XYZ but I think that Vince sees himself as of more/greater importance than I think he is. But I could be wrong and hold no offese against Vince other than my belief that some competitors should not appear on stage unless they are dressed in full combat array. (Foul/sub-zero weather combat gear in particular.)
I've actually seen that when one well known pro did his guest posing stint in a long sleeve hoodie and full length sweat-pants.
And to top it all ... he even wore a mask.!
So who feel knows that the fook they are speaking about when it comes to the world of bodybuilding on this board.
Don't think that you cannot list yourself.
You talking shit about me?
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Does anyone really know what they're talking about when it comes to bodybuilding? It's all trial and error and very individual, what works for one person diet/training/supplement wise might not work for another guy. It's an individual sport and peoples bodies change constantly, some dudes like Juan Morrel can eat 20,000 calories a day (on a cheat) and still keep a tight midsection and come in shape and then you got Santi Aragon who said he has to go as low as 1400 calories with hours of cardio to get peeled for a show. Dorian trains 4 times a week, then you got Shawn Ray doing double training sessions and cardio leading up to a show. One thing I do know is how to make a killer MaiTai ;D
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Thanks, SHAPE, but you have reminded me of another manuer story in which a top notch bodybuilder and two other dudesforced me (not at gunpoint) to show them the cow pasture where magic mushrooms were sure to grow after every rainfall.
Pellius may know that magic-mushroom, cow pasture well.
We found them and did whatever was necessary to smoke or eat them ,,, but I did neither ... and the others went a bit insane but appeared very happy anyway.
Here in the Wild, Wild West I think it's peyote, but I'm hopeing that those good friends have forgotten me.
I hope they ain't GetBig members.
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GO4, Do you put the little purple flower (orchid) in the ones you make?
The best Mai Tais I've ever had were the ones served at FtDurussey Beach Bar. It only took two and you'd find yourselfstumbling to the waves to sober up.
Three.... and you were gone for the day under a coconit tree.
Ae you restricted by the number of Mai Tais you can serve to one customer, or does the ship have escorts that can carry passengers to their quarters when they imbibe too much?
And is it always permissible to puke overboard... even on windy days?
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GO4, Do you put the little purple flower (orchid) in the ones you make?
The best Mai Tais I've ever had were the ones served at FtDurussey Beach Bar. It only took two and you'd find yourselfstumbling to the waves to sober up.
Three.... and you were gone for the day under a coconit tree.
Ae you restricted by the number of Mai Tais you can serve to one customer, or does the ship have escorts that can carry passengers to their quarters when they imbibe too much?
And is it always permissible to puke overboard... even on windy days?
Answer the fucking question. ARE YOU TALKING SHIT ABOUT ME????
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Does anyone really know what they're talking about when it comes to bodybuilding? It's all trial and error and very individual, what works for one person diet/training/supplement wise might not work for another guy. It's an individual sport and peoples bodies change constantly, some dudes like Juan Morrel can eat 20,000 calories a day (on a cheat) and still keep a tight midsection and come in shape and then you got Santi Aragon who said he has to go as low as 1400 calories with hours of cardio to get peeled for a show. Dorian trains 4 times a week, then you got Shawn Ray doing double training sessions and cardio leading up to a show. One thing I do know is how to make a killer MaiTai ;D
Agree completely. And what "works" is genetically limited. You really are the master of your own domain.
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Answer the fucking question. ARE YOU TALKING SHIT ABOUT ME????
Sounds like he is
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GO4, Do you put the little purple flower (orchid) in the ones you make?
The best Mai Tais I've ever had were the ones served at FtDurussey Beach Bar. It only took two and you'd find yourselfstumbling to the waves to sober up.
Three.... and you were gone for the day under a coconit tree.
Ae you restricted by the number of Mai Tais you can serve to one customer, or does the ship have escorts that can carry passengers to their quarters when they imbibe too much?
And is it always permissible to puke overboard... even on windy days?
We usually garnish with a pineapple slice, but there are various garnishes used for a Mai tai. Yes all crew who have positions that require them to serve alcohol have to go through a program called ServeSafe and we have to definitely monitor passengers consumption. It can get tricky because one bartender may cut off a passenger and that passenger can just go to another one of our 13 bars on the ship, so each bartender has to observe a customers behavior when approaching the bar, their speech pattern, etc. Theres definitely flaws because if the bar is slammed you a just pumping out drinks as fast as possible and your not going to be able to catch if they are wasted.
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Answer the fucking question. ARE YOU TALKING SHIT ABOUT ME????
LOL. Nope, he is merely relating his opinion and he doesn't make stuff up. He is spot on about you. There you are.
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And you still weigh 97 pounds. How did you accomplish that?
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One word............CONCISTA NCY!! LOL :)
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One word............CONCISTA NCY!! LOL :)
At our gym we used to give The Consistency Award for the guy who never missed a workout, ate properly and trained his ass off ......but stayed the same!
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At our gym we used to give The Consistency Award for the guy who never missed a workout, ate properly and trained his ass off ......but stayed the same!
I would have always won that category hands down Vince! LOL :)
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Does anyone really know what they're talking about when it comes to bodybuilding? It's all trial and error and very individual, what works for one person diet/training/supplement wise might not work for another guy. It's an individual sport and peoples bodies change constantly, some dudes like Juan Morrel can eat 20,000 calories a day (on a cheat) and still keep a tight midsection and come in shape and then you got Santi Aragon who said he has to go as low as 1400 calories with hours of cardio to get peeled for a show. Dorian trains 4 times a week, then you got Shawn Ray doing double training sessions and cardio leading up to a show. One thing I do know is how to make a killer MaiTai ;D
Hmmmm it’s not that individual
Otherwise how do medicines work across the board for millions of people.
Yes very much so people respond slightly differently to different foods / training / cardio
But not hugely so.
A good trainer / coach will soon know what works & dosent work for you.
There are some very simple basics here’s a few,
Eat more to grow heavier
Eat less to lose weight
Lift weights to stimulate muscle growth
Rest to grow
Etc etc
Like I said someone with a good eye & good knowledge can definitely be of help.
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I would have always won that category hands down Vince! LOL :)
It wasn't always an insult. As we get older staying the same is quite an achievement.
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stuntmovies posts are the ones actually worth reading on this downright bizarre board. It’s like a golden nugget in a field of manure.
agree. One of the few posters of hundreds that I can read their entire post regardless of the length
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It wasn't always an insult. As we get older staying the same is quite an achievement.
Well said, sir.
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To start this off, I'm gonna forget to name a good number of GetBiggers (about ten) who seem to know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to bodybuilding in general and bodybuilding competitions in particular.
And I do mean the "inside bodybuilding stuff" and not just what you managed to read about in one of the magazines or gossup collumns such as this GetBig board.
So if you want to add to this list and add the names of those GetBiggers who appear to know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to the world of bodybuilding ..... Jump In!
I do realize that I'm missing a good number of you BB experts, but I'll be surprised if that number grows past 10.
No intent to overlook anyone but these are the few knowledgeable BetBiggers who know this shit ... In my humble opinion.
I'll start off by mentioning, "ME" simply becaise I know this shit backwards, forewards and upside down .... almost forever.
Then I'll say .... CHE.
Then EL DIABLO.
And then ESFITNESS ... whom those outside of this game will completely disagree with.
And then Tres Taco who actually competes
And WIGGS who has personally proven to me that he knows what the fook he is talking about and seeing during the prejudging pahase of an NPC event.
And who the hell is it that conributes stuff and was an employee at Golds Venice a long while back.
And don't hate me too damn much, but I gotta add VINCE B who recalls some of the more interesting shit within this game exactly as I do myseld but am too damn polite to admit it.
And BeefyHvyWt
And right now those are the only dudes who I can recall who seem to know what the hell they are talking about.
I'd add VINCE XYZ but I think that Vince sees himself as of more/greater importance than I think he is. But I could be wrong and hold no offese against Vince other than my belief that some competitors should not appear on stage unless they are dressed in full combat array. (Foul/sub-zero weather combat gear in particular.)
I've actually seen that when one well known pro did his guest posing stint in a long sleeve hoodie and full length sweat-pants.
And to top it all ... he even wore a mask.!
So who feel knows that the fook they are speaking about when it comes to the world of bodybuilding on this board.
Don't think that you cannot list yourself.
Agree fully with this, Curtis.
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To start this off, I'm gonna forget to name a good number of GetBiggers (about ten) who seem to know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to bodybuilding in general and bodybuilding competitions in particular.
And I do mean the "inside bodybuilding stuff" and not just what you managed to read about in one of the magazines or gossup collumns such as this GetBig board.
So if you want to add to this list and add the names of those GetBiggers who appear to know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to the world of bodybuilding ..... Jump In!
I do realize that I'm missing a good number of you BB experts, but I'll be surprised if that number grows past 10.
No intent to overlook anyone but these are the few knowledgeable BetBiggers who know this shit ... In my humble opinion.
I'll start off by mentioning, "ME" simply becaise I know this shit backwards, forewards and upside down .... almost forever.
Then I'll say .... CHE.
Then EL DIABLO.
And then ESFITNESS ... whom those outside of this game will completely disagree with.
And then Tres Taco who actually competes
And WIGGS who has personally proven to me that he knows what the fook he is talking about and seeing during the prejudging pahase of an NPC event.
And who the hell is it that conributes stuff and was an employee at Golds Venice a long while back.
And don't hate me too damn much, but I gotta add VINCE B who recalls some of the more interesting shit within this game exactly as I do myseld but am too damn polite to admit it.
And BeefyHvyWt
And right now those are the only dudes who I can recall who seem to know what the hell they are talking about.
I'd add VINCE XYZ but I think that Vince sees himself as of more/greater importance than I think he is. But I could be wrong and hold no offese against Vince other than my belief that some competitors should not appear on stage unless they are dressed in full combat array. (Foul/sub-zero weather combat gear in particular.)
I've actually seen that when one well known pro did his guest posing stint in a long sleeve hoodie and full length sweat-pants.
And to top it all ... he even wore a mask.!
So who feel knows that the fook they are speaking about when it comes to the world of bodybuilding on this board.
Don't think that you cannot list yourself.
After 45 years I think I have a pretty good grasp (no homo) of the industry...lol
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After 45 years I think I have a pretty good grasp (no homo) of the industry...lol
I don't know why you weren't named....Glad you stepped up and did it
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Sounds like he is
Yes, it appears he is. Quite frankly I'm very surprised that this Super Mario Brother mustache wearing former roommate of Keith "OnlyMe" Jones waits all this time to talk shit about me. So let me set things straight.
1. My last competition was the 2009 NGA Night of Champions. It has been NINE YEARS since I last completed....and I was in my best condition of my fucking life....which leaves the prior competition where I wasn't in great shape which was the 2006 NPC Mountaineer. I'll admit that I didn't start my bodybuilding aspirations off too well but finished strong in my final show....all without any steroids, growth hormone, insulin....nothing. Training and dieting like Steve Reeves with nothing but a 110 pound barbell set, elastic bands and a Total Trainer. So that fact that I don't know anything about bodybuilding and nutrition is ridiculous and considering the source...that being Stuntmovie who doesn't know shit other than how to carry all of Onlyme's food home to him with just 2 trips from the grocery store is laughable.
2. While my personal website is still up, I am no longer training clients, doing diet and meal plans, or life coaching. I now have a job in Customer Relations. I have no real involvement in the industry anymore and don't care neither. So I'm not keeping up any continuing education or advancements in that fiend
3. There is no way that I can make myself important. If you need an example...well Shizzo. You seem to forget stuntmovie that the only reason I'm well known is because people obviously enjoyed listening to my ramblings whether its here..on my podcast, Youtube, etc. If you have a problem with that....tough shit. At least I wasn't popular for ripping off someone for 2500 in T-Shirts like someone we now....RIGHT????
Stuntmovie, I've given you quarter despite the fact that you Onlyme's roommate....but if you ever say anything about me again then I willl make you wish you never screwed with me. No apology needed. Just keep my name out of your mouth you sniveling little shit.
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Goodrum, you are complete excrement.
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For the last 5 years, there was only 1 guy here worth reading and that's VAN B
There have been others but those times are long gone...
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For the last 5 years, there was only 1 guy here worth reading and that's VAN B
There have been others but those times are long gone...
This.
Van Bilderass is comfortably the most knowledgeable poster here.
Fortress knows the industry very well too, given that he's even trained with several pro's.
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COACH! YES! Sorry I did overlook ya!
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And SCOTT .... Another one I have overlooked based on his past involvement.
Well you both probably wear the same white New Balances. So you have to include him.
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Well you both probably wear the same white New Balances. So you have to include him.
What can I say? They help me keep my balance when my walker isn't nearby. ;D
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Myself and Funk probably know more Iron History than most here, but I digress...
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Well you both probably wear the same white New Balances. So you have to include him.
Actually I have a black and grey pair of NB mid tops. Very comfy. :D
Don't knock the USA made ones until you try them.
Myself, Funk and WW probably know more Iron History than most here, but I digress...
Fixed
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OK, POWERLIFT, I listed you and Funk and Walter White.
Thanks for the update!
Here's a Powerlifting Question for ya ..... Who was the founder/editor of Powerlifting USA?
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OK, POWERLIFT, I listed you and Funk and Walter White.
Thanks for the update!
Here's a Powerlifting Question for ya ..... Who was the founder/editor of Powerlifting USA?
Tommy W and others including OMR have seen the copies I'm in. Mike Lambert is in Editor in Chief of the copy I have in front of me. International was Andy Kerr, and Mike was also publisher.
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Myself and Funk probably know more Iron History than most here, but I digress...
agreed not to mention joe roark who comes on here occasionally.....and unlike some power and i actually train with barbells and dumbbells. power does some hefty lifts for his age , size and weight...following some of my advices a guy i know grew from 100 lbs to 236 lbs bench pressed 405 for reps without PEDS, so i guess i know a little about the iron sports and how to make progress..
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Yes, it appears he is. Quite frankly I'm very surprised that this Super Mario Brother mustache wearing former roommate of Keith "OnlyMe" Jones waits all this time to talk shit about me. So let me set things straight.
1. My last competition was the 2009 NGA Night of Champions. It has been NINE YEARS since I last completed....and I was in my best condition of my fucking life....which leaves the prior competition where I wasn't in great shape which was the 2006 NPC Mountaineer. I'll admit that I didn't start my bodybuilding aspirations off too well but finished strong in my final show....all without any steroids, growth hormone, insulin....nothing. Training and dieting like Steve Reeves with nothing but a 110 pound barbell set, elastic bands and a Total Trainer. So that fact that I don't know anything about bodybuilding and nutrition is ridiculous and considering the source...that being Stuntmovie who doesn't know shit other than how to carry all of Onlyme's food home to him with just 2 trips from the grocery store is laughable.
2. While my personal website is still up, I am no longer training clients, doing diet and meal plans, or life coaching. I now have a job in Customer Relations. I have no real involvement in the industry anymore and don't care neither. So I'm not keeping up any continuing education or advancements in that fiend
3. There is no way that I can make myself important. If you need an example...well Shizzo. You seem to forget stuntmovie that the only reason I'm well known is because people obviously enjoyed listening to my ramblings whether its here..on my podcast, Youtube, etc. If you have a problem with that....tough shit. At least I wasn't popular for ripping off someone for 2500 in T-Shirts like someone we now....RIGHT????
Stuntmovie, I've given you quarter despite the fact that you Onlyme's roommate....but if you ever say anything about me again then I willl make you wish you never screwed with me. No apology needed. Just keep my name out of your mouth you sniveling little shit.
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Goodrum, you are complete excrement.
Ah...But are you certain he is in fact, "complete" excrement? He may well be missing an ingredient or three.
Just axing. ;D
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agreed not to mention joe roark who comes on here occasionally.....and unlike some power and i actually train with barbells and dumbbells. power does some hefty lifts for his age , size and weight...following some of my advices a guy i know grew from 100 lbs to 236 lbs bench pressed 405 for reps without PEDS, so i guess i know a little about the iron sports and how to make progress..
Nothing against you but I’m always skeptical to hear how someone comes from 100lbs gaining another 100+ pounds and ends up a bit shy of 250lbs. Especially as a natural. I tend to assume the most logical scenario, it was over the span of 10+ years, the 100lb kid was a 12-13yr old, and his end weight is at 15%bf.
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I willl make you wish you never screwed with me.
How, exactly, would you achieve this?
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ratherbebig
anabolichalo
marty champions
the true adonis
nasser el
a few others
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If people can't understand the concepts in bodybuilding, well, they should strongly consider ending it all. ???
It's not exactly rocket science. ::)
Let's be honest, the average bodybuilder is probably dumber than the average eighth grader who has never touched a barbell.
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Nothing against you but I’m always skeptical to hear how someone comes from 100lbs gaining another 100+ pounds and ends up a bit shy of 250lbs. Especially as a natural. I tend to assume the most logical scenario, it was over the span of 10+ years, the 100lb kid was a 12-13yr old, and his end weight is at 15%bf.
no offense taking just sTATING FACTS GUY WAS MORE LIKE 14 TOOK 8 YEARS MOST GAINS WERE FIRST 3 YEARS.1 st pic 170 lbs pressing 105 's for reps 2 nd pic 205 3 rd pic 235.. body fat .. your call.
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If people can't understand the concepts in bodybuilding, well, they should strongly consider ending it all. ???
It's not exactly rocket science. ::)
Let's be honest, the average bodybuilder is probably dumber than the average eighth grader who has never touched a barbell.
true... the body hasn't change in the way it moves or responds to outside stimulus. =training and nutrition..stuff in the old training manual from 1960 still works today.
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no offense taking just sTATING FACTS GUY WAS MORE LIKE 14 TOOK 8 YEARS MOST GAINS WERE FIRST 3 YEARS.1 st pic 170 lbs pressing 105 's for reps 2 nd pic 205 3 rd pic 235.. body fat .. your call.
I see. He made good progress and looks natural to me (no cannonball delts was the first thing that came to mind). You know your stuff.
I just get skeptical with claims like that. Fits in the same camp as someone saying they hit 260lbs at over 6ft at single digit bf% on a cc of test a week.