.I was hoping Trump would get better and hes just getting worst
::)
You sound like John McCain and Howard had a baby.
There can finally be no doubt that president Trump is at best, an idiot, or at worst, the biggest dupe in history...he actually disparaged our country's institutions andEveryone should be outraged, outraged that our system has been rigged from within for so long that we've become accepting and numb to the corruption. Now that a leader is speaking up about it, people like you are faking offense because that's the only way you know how to get attention.press and took the side of a murderous dictator over his own intelligence community...... something no other president has EVER done...Even the Repubs are finally outraged at Trump....
You supposed patriots have been utterly duped by a narcissistic conman..I was hoping Trump would get better and hes just getting worst
There can finally be no doubt that president Trump is at best, an idiot, or at worst, the biggest dupe in history...he actually disparaged our country's institutions andFuck no they aren't going to wake up. Anyone that supported him to begin with is an absolute moron, and like him, they would never admit they were wrong, or accept fault for anything. Even some of the fuckin idiots at Fox News spoke out against it. His days are numbered. Today was the most pathetic shit from an American President in history. He truly is Putin's little bitch. Trump is nothing more than a scared little pussy that's scared shitless Putin will release the compromising material he has on him.press and took the side of a murderous dictator over his own intelligence community...... something no other president has EVER done...Even the Repubs are finally outraged at Trump....
You supposed patriots have been utterly duped by a narcissistic conman..I was hoping Trump would get better and hes just getting worst
Fuck no they aren't going to wake up. Anyone that supported him to begin with is an absolute moron, and like him, they would never admit they were wrong, or accept fault for anything. Even some of the fuckin idiots at Fox News spoke out against it. His days are numbered. Today was the most pathetic shit from an American President in history. He truly is Putin's little bitch. Trump is nothing more than a scared little pussy that's scared shitless Putin will release the compromising material he has on him.
::)
You sound like John McCain and Howard had a baby.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! ;D
Everyone should be outraged, outraged that our system has been rigged from within for so long that we've become accepting and numb to the corruption. Now that a leader is speaking up about it, people like you are faking offense because that's the only way you know how to get attention.
Fuck no they aren't going to wake up. Anyone that supported him to begin with is an absolute moron, and like him, they would never admit they were wrong, or accept fault for anything. Even some of the fuckin idiots at Fox News spoke out against it. His days are numbered. Today was the most pathetic shit from an American President in history. He truly is Putin's little bitch. Trump is nothing more than a scared little pussy that's scared shitless Putin will release the compromising material he has on him.
We get it. You’re a socialist/Marxist
Has Trump done ANYTHING WRONG in your eyes?????...oh by the way PUTIN is the Marxist in case you didn't know
Everyone should be outraged, outraged that our system has been rigged from within for so long that we've become accepting and numb to the corruption. Now that a leader is speaking up about it, people like you are faking offense because that's the only way you know how to get attention.
Let’s just say whenever I think he speaks out of line he winds up proving all of his critics wrong. I question him less and less. But let’s get back to my statement about you being a socialist. You’re not denying it. Explain to me how you think socialism would work.
Let’s just say whenever I think he speaks out of line he winds up proving all of his critics wrong. I question him less and less. But let’s get back to my statement about you being a socialist. You’re not denying it. Explain to me how you think socialism would work.
This. 100%.
whats your problem dude?
Mr Trump has not said or indicated anything new
whats your problem dude?
Mr Trump has not said or indicated anything new
There can finally be no doubt that president Trump is at best, an idiot, or at worst, the biggest dupe in history...he actually disparaged our country's institutions andpress and took the side of a murderous dictator over his own intelligence community...... something no other president has EVER done...Even the Repubs are finally outraged at Trump....
You supposed patriots have been utterly duped by a narcissistic conman..I was hoping Trump would get better and hes just getting worst
Create fear, spread misinformation. Welcome to 2018's media.
The media only shoves selected quotes/clips/pictures down people's throats.
Another thread from a fake news victim ::)
The cold war is over. Russia lost in the 80s.
Liberals in the West hate Russia because Russians are neither pro-gay nor pro-Muslim.
Conservatives in the West have much more in common with Russia than they have in common with liberals in the West.
The cold war is over. Russia lost in the 80s.
Liberals in the West hate Russia because Russians are neither pro-gay nor pro-Muslim.
Conservatives in the West have much more in common with Russia than they have in common with liberals in the West.
Create fear, spread misinformation. Welcome to 2018's media.
what is the misinformation BEING SPREAD?????...DID YOU ACTUALLY look at the press conference with Putin?????
No......I don't watch FOX NEWS....
Really?????? The cold war is over??????....not for Russia....for them it will never be over.....shot down an airliner....invaded Ukraine.....hacked into the democratic process to influence the elections of other countries.....poisoned people on British soil with a powerful nerve agent.....
oh yeah....the cold war is over
:D
Move on.
Really weird that you were going on and on and on about Obama lying about keeping your doctor in terms of Obamacare YET you have yet to say ONE word about any of Trump's hundreds of lies...
STRANGE...…...and Hypocritical as always
Andre practically slobbering all over himself in this thread.
I do and today they are not singing praises of Trump's performance at yesterday's news conference.
:D
Really weird there was no mention of this when Obama was presidentOf course not, 99% of people or organizations that criticized obama were labeled racist and cast aside. The political and media protection obama had from criticism was unprecedented.
Of course not, 99% of people or organizations that criticized obama were labeled racist and cast aside. The political and media protection obama had from criticism was unprecedented.
LOL - pretty funny watching Bum and the other right wing clowns desperately try to deflect from the traitor in the White House by bringing up 6 year old clips of ObamaWhy wasn't Russia the enemy until Trump won the Presidency?
Why wasn't Russia the enemy until Trump won the Presidency?
Really weird there was no mention of this when Obama was president
Ted Kennedy worked with yuri Andropov to prevent Reagan from getting relected.
Hillary sold 20% of our our uranium assetts to the Russians.
Bill Clinton made 500K on a speech to a russion Oligarch, soon thereafter, 140 Million was deposited in the Clinton Global Initiative.
but, nothing to see here, move along.
Trump sucks at a news conference and the news goes apeshit.
Andre practically slobbering all over himself in this thread.Impressive post ::). Maybe you were thinking of trump slobbering over putin.
Funny. I watched Outnumbered this morning and they were very critical of Trump's performance.
So, we are in agreement?
Yes. :o
LOL - pretty funny watching Bum and the other right wing clowns desperately try to deflect from the traitor in the White House by bringing up 6 year old clips of Obama
no she didn'tShe was involved, as was her husband, on a personal level with the owner of uranium one before the sale. He also gave upwards of 31 million dollars towards her "foundation".
not sure about the other two but given that you still believe that bogus claim about Hillary the other two are likely horseshit too
The problem is that the average citizen is on to the mainstream media. They know it is far left and anti-Trump.Fox is far left? They said trump was a coward and traitor too.
Their paradigm no longer works. They have yet to compensate.
They are in huge trouble where it matters most.
Fox is far left? They said trump was a coward and traitor too.
Who on Fox News called Trump a "coward and traitor"?
Let’s just say whenever I think he speaks out of line he winds up proving all of his critics wrong. I question him less and less. But let’s get back to my statement about you being a socialist. You’re not denying it. Explain to me how you think socialism would work.
Jesus Christ. ...... ::)
I would also like to know the answer to this. I watched some FOX News clips following the Helsinki news conference and there was some disapproval, but nothing rising to the level of calling Trump a coward and a Traitor. If it happened, then okay. If it never happened and this statement is merely an exaggeration, then it is not okay. If someone feels like they have to inflate the facts to make a point, they are in fact lying. No matter who lies, it discredits everything they have to say because their comments can no longer be trusted.
I’m still waiting for that explanation
Who cares about and explanation as to whether socialism could work, when you just posted, "Let’s just say whenever I think he (Trump) speaks out of line he winds up proving all of his critics wrong. I question him less and less". Turning a blind eye and a deaf ear, are you? What just happened this week? Apparently you don't watch television or read the news.
Who cares about an explanation as to whether socialism could work, when you just posted, "Let’s just say whenever I think he (Trump) speaks out of line he winds up proving all of his critics wrong. I question him less and less". Turning a blind eye and a deaf ear, are you? What just happened this week? Apparently you don't watch television or read the news.What happened this week ???
Andre practically slobbering all over himself in this thread.
Yes, really. The cold war is over. Russia lost.
"The Cold War was a state of geopolitical tension after World War II between powers in the Eastern Bloc (the Soviet Union and its satellite states) and powers in the Western Bloc (the United States, its NATO allies and others). Historians do not fully agree on the dates, but a common timeframe is the period between 1947, the year the Truman Doctrine, a U.S. foreign policy pledging to aid nations threatened by Soviet expansionism, was announced, and either 1989, when communism fell in Eastern Europe, or 1991, when the Soviet Union collapsed."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War
Incoherent as always.
God you are stupid, right up there with Howard. Probably because the media was in his hip pocket and King Hussein could do no wrong, dummy ::)
no she didn't
not sure about the other two but given that you still believe that bogus claim about Hillary the other two are likely horseshit too
Impressive post ::). Maybe you were thinking of trump slobbering over putin.
Traitor? on what grounds? You or anyone else including the idiot Brennan (who you this from) can't make that case in any way, shape or form. It's a tactic by the left to get uninformed minions like yourself riled up.
But there is an ABSOLUTE case that Hillary Clinton violated the espionage act, but don't tell that Lurker, he thinks because nothing happened to her she's innocent and is too stupid to realize that she was protected by Obama and Brennan.
And they want to claim liberals have the mental problem... :)
Agreed...Their thinking is so limited its amazing
I think he just made it up, but perhaps he can prove me wrong?
The economy was going well with low unemployment when Obama was president...but you chose to ignore that and not acknowledge it
Libfags like yourself said the economy would crash if Trump were elected
The economy was going well with low unemployment when Obama was president...but you chose to ignore that and not acknowledge it
The truth often seems incoherent to you...again..your hypocrisy is amazing in its boldness
Are you EVER going to mention the words "golf" or "Lying" again?...you sure haven't since Trump has been president....even though its been proven that he played way more golf than Obama did and has told upwards of over 500 lies since hes been in office...meanwhile you mentioned those words regularly when Obama was president
HYPOCRITE
The economy turned around in 2010 when Republicans took over the house.Don't go bringing facts into the discussion, the democratic plantation will lose it's shit!
Don't go bringing facts into the discussion, the democratic plantation will lose it's shit!
If I post a chart of the stock market going back to 2007 until 2016 showing the economy was on the rise from 2008 to 2010 before the Republicans saved the day.. would you both acknowledge you were wrong? My experience on here tells me not a chance. You'll deflect or ignore. But the fact is, that statement is wrong.The stock market that Bush created? Or do we only blame Bush for the bad stuff during the Obama years? I mean, if we're giving Obama credit for the market during Trumps tenure, then giving Bush credit during obamas is only fair right?
The stock market that Bush created? Or do we only blame Bush for the bad stuff during the Obama years? I mean, if we're giving Obama credit for the market during Trumps tenure, then giving Bush credit during obamas is only fair right?
Epic deflection 8)
What happened this week ???
Dude...debate 101 tells you that Wikipedia is NOT a legitimate source
Libfags like yourself said the economy would crash if Trump were elected
The stock market that Bush created? Or do we only blame Bush for the bad stuff during the Obama years? I mean, if we're giving Obama credit for the market during Trumps tenure, then giving Bush credit during obamas is only fair right?
Epic deflection 8)
You don't speak the truth. You post like a drunk semi-literate partisan.
Are you a Black Man ??
I'm an American. Why do you ask?
Oops That question wasn’t meant for you.
I clicked the wrong quote. :'(
Libfags like yourself said the economy would crash if Trump were elected
The economy turned around in 2010 when Republicans took over the house.
You don't speak the truth. You post like a drunk semi-literate partisan.
If I post a chart of the stock market going back to 2007 until 2016 showing the economy was on the rise from 2008 to 2010 before the Republicans saved the day.. would you both acknowledge you were wrong? My experience on here tells me not a chance. You'll deflect or ignore. But the fact is, that statement is wrong.
That was funny! I agree Bush gave Obama the opportunity to have a term where the economy improves... but unlike Trump, Obama's term (notice I'm not giving Obama the credit, just saying that while he was President, coincidence or not, the economy improved.) The housing crash that was set to happen as far back as Clinton who I understand put policies in place that allowed it to occur, made it easier for Obama to experience an upward trend. That trend continued until the day he left office and continues up.It wasn't a false statement, the economy increasingly improved, arguably at a quicker rate after 2010 when repubs took over. Was it already on the rise from 2008-2010 isn't being disagreed with.
Doesn't change the fact Thin Lizzy's statement is demonstrably false and your apparent agreement with it a symptom of some members of the rights inability to distinguish fact from fiction. :)
-Oversimplified argument. Comparing the economy (real estate crash) of 2008 to today's post Trump election economy explains why you'll never be a qualified economist.Quit trying to sound smart, you only make the case for senior euthanasia.
I love your attacks..it usually means I've backed you in a corner
Attacks. That's mostly what you have in your small bag of tricks. A thread will all caps. Some incoherent babbling. Insult anyone who disagrees with you. You can do better than that.
That was funny! I agree Bush gave Obama the opportunity to have a term where the economy improves... but unlike Trump, Obama's term (notice I'm not giving Obama the credit, just saying that while he was President, coincidence or not, the economy improved.) The housing crash that was set to happen as far back as Clinton who I understand put policies in place that allowed it to occur, made it easier for Obama to experience an upward trend. That trend continued until the day he left office and continues up.
Doesn't change the fact Thin Lizzy's statement is demonstrably false and your apparent agreement with it a symptom of some members of the rights inability to distinguish fact from fiction. :)
That's accurate.
“Insult anyone who disagrees with you. You can do better than that”
No he can’t.
The economy was going well with low unemployment when Obama was president...but you chose to ignore that and not acknowledge it
Attacks. That's mostly what you have in your small bag of tricks. A thread will all caps. Some incoherent babbling. Insult anyone who disagrees with you. You can do better than that.
Do you really want to go there again....Krugman?
The economy turned around in 2010 when Republicans took over the house.
The economy turned around in 2010 when Republicans took over the house.
It's all accurate, thanks
Maybe, maybe not. The bolded text is the stuff I know for sure is accurate. The rest I'm not so sure.
Question is, if Obama and the Democrats were doing so well then why did they lose so bad the following midterm elections?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/barack-obama-won-the-white-house-but-democrats-lost-the-country/So according to that guy, if you manipulate and screw around with timing and numbers, it looks similar to other 2 term presidents? LOL
The number of congressional seats lost during his tenure is high but in line with what other two-term presidents have experienced. Where the party has ceded an extraordinary degree of its power is in state legislatures and governor’s mansions. If the blame for Democrats’ ebbing power fell squarely at Obama’s feet, the party’s losses in federal offices would likely be much more acute, matching the dramatic changes at the state level.
It matters, too, how the Democrats’ losses during Obama’s tenure are counted. Most analyses compare the number of seats Democrats held after the 2008 elections to those they held after 2016. But Obama’s 2008 election saw a surge of down-ballot Democratic wins, which makes the slide look that much more precipitous. If you compare the number of Democratic seats held after the 2006 midterms, prior to Obama’s election, with the number held after 2016, when he was off the ticket — as the Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein has suggested — the loss of state-level seats is closer to the norm.
Democrats saw a similar erosion of power after Clinton’s time in office, and by this accounting, Republican losses in the Senate and House during Bush’s tenure look far worse than Democratic losses during Obama’s.
And I don't recall saying Obama and the Democrats were doing so well.
So according to that guy, if you manipulate and screw around with timing and numbers, it looks similar to other 2 term presidents? LOL
You did say the economy was doing well under Obama who was demoncrat which led into the current discussion about demoncratic seat losses during his tenure.
I think you just reminded me why it's not worth giving any more answers than just the usual insult or deflection. You really aren't interested in learning anything new. What "the guy" said was that Obama had a surge of seats upon his election which was not the norm. So comparing his starting seats with the mid terms skews the results. If you used the norm or what he had prior to his election it IS normal and actually not as bad as Bush experienced. Really not that technical to understand.
So is it correct then
That he did very well on election and gained a lot of seats? Correct?
Then mid term he & then he lost an awful lot of seats mid term? Correct?
Or have I got that wrong?
And No messing / comparing with other presidents pls.
So is it correct thenNobody is denying that's the way it happened, yet the guy that wrote that article tried manipulating the numbers before election/during/after to make it look like the demoncratic loss during obamas tenure was "normal". If someone cared enough they could just look at the straight actual numbers instead of searching for something that supports their fucked up political ideology.
That he did very well on election and gained a lot of seats? Correct?
Then mid term he & then he lost an awful lot of seats mid term? Correct?
Or have I got that wrong?
And No messing / comparing with other presidents pls.
It is true, I was asked why I thought that happened. I answered it
Nobody is denying that's the way it happened, yet the guy that wrote that article tried manipulating the numbers before election/during/after to make it look like the demoncratic loss during obamas tenure was "normal". If someone cared enough they could just look at the straight actual numbers instead of searching for something that supports their fucked up political ideology.
Oh shit, some liberal heads here are going to explode when they see this. :D
Personally I couldn’t stand The effeminate liberal black twat
I don’t think many if any world countries saw him as a Real Leader of the western world.
He got voted in because he was black & all the politically correct liberals & women & blacks
Voted for him - All caught up in the idealistic politically correct liberal mental illness.
Natural order will Return
Nature always wins.
Oh shit, some liberal heads here are going to explode when they see this. :D
Ahh so I was correct.
Thanks for answering.
So put simply he started off really well with all the seats gained
Then mid term did terribly poorly & lost even more than he gained.
If that is also correct , there’s no sweeting that bitter pill.
Personally I couldn’t stand The effeminate liberal black twat
I don’t think many if any world countries saw him as a Real Leader of the western world.
He got voted in because he was black & all the politically correct liberals & women & blacks
Voted for him - All caught up in the idealistic politically correct liberal mental illness.
Natural order will Return
Nature always wins.
The right spin is that he lost an extraordinary amount of seats.. the truth seems to be that the original numbers were inflated from the norm and what happened wasn't unusual for a party with a President in the white house. He got in in my opinion, kind of how Trump did. People were so tired of the usual BS, Bush had done a mediocre at best job towards his last 3 years and the housing market and stocks were in shambles. Change was needed and McCain was not that change. Obama talked a good game but when it came down to it, other than UHC, he did nothing for the country other than not act like a total asshole tardThis is how you skew discussion. Illuminati had it right, obama started well, lost more than normal in mid terms. It's really that simple, trying to twist the losses so they don't look dramatic is just political bullshit. People voted for obama because he was black, that's it. My mother in law openly admitted that his first term she voted for him because she wanted to be on the side that supported history. She always voted republican before and after that one time. McCain...I'm not going to touch that one, but you're right, not what people wanted. Trump is a big fuck you to established politicians and a way for the American people to show politicians that they can be replaced.
This is how you skew discussion. Illuminati had it right, obama started well, lost more than normal in mid terms. It's really that simple, trying to twist the losses so they don't look dramatic is just political bullshit. People voted for obama because he was black, that's it. My mother in law openly admitted that his first term she voted for him because she wanted to be on the side that supported history. She always voted republican before and after that one time. McCain...I'm not going to touch that one, but you're right, not what people wanted. Trump is a big fuck you to established politicians and a way for the American people to show politicians that they can be replaced.
Civil War II can't come quick enough.
Nah, it's how you don't understand the discussion
LOL! New Reuters/Ipsos Poll: Trump job approval at 42% in post-Helsinki polling.
Previous Reuters/Ipsos Poll, taken pre-Helsinki: Trump job approval at 41%
LOL even more: New Rasmussen, post-Helsinki Poll: Trump at 45%
Exactly the same as pre-Helsinki.
Cue liberal/media exploding heads in 3...2...1...
Ahh so I was correct.
Thanks for answering.
So put simply he started off really well with all the seats gained
Then mid term did terribly poorly & lost even more than he gained.
If that is also correct , there’s no sweeting that bitter pill.
Personally I couldn’t stand The effeminate liberal black twat
I don’t think many if any world countries saw him as a Real Leader of the western world.
He got voted in because he was black & all the politically correct liberals & women & blacks
Voted for him - All caught up in the idealistic politically correct liberal mental illness.
Natural order will Return
Nature always wins.
Oh shit, some liberal heads here are going to explode when they see this. :D
Be that as it may.
Truth Hurts Some People.
Let them take the cotton wool & bubble wrapping off
And go See Live Interact in The Real World.
Of course they won’t,
Because of their Idealistic Politically Correct Liberal Feminist Mental Illness Has Fcuked it up.
And They Couldn’t Cope with the reality.
You may find this interesting.
Spring 2015
"Globally, Obama’s image is mostly positive. Across the 40 countries polled, a median of 65% say they have confidence in Obama to do the right thing in world affairs. A median of just 27% lack confidence in the American leader. Overall, Obama remains much more popular globally than his predecessor, but opinions vary significantly across nations and regions."
"Few Russians Give Positive Marks to Obama or U.S."
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/24/7-charts-on-how-the-world-views-president-obama/ft_15-06-26_obamaconfidence_3/
And yet, A lot of people say it is folks who believe as you do who have trouble coping with reality....because you turn a blind eye to anything that does not fit with your preconceived notions.
Not really
It depends on who they surveyed
If it was Blacks / liberals / politically correct / types
It means nothing.
He’s an effeminate looking black lanky streak of piss.
A World Leader.. ::)
No preconceived notions
Go out there in the shit hole city’s
Full of blacks & or muslims deal with them
Day in day out, see & watch there behaviour.
Look at the fucked up number of kids around
With Gender identity issues ::) what a fucking joke.
2 Genders Male & Female end of - simple.
Natural order
Nature is not a preconceived notion.
You do understand the surveys reflect how foreigners (people living in other countries) responded. It was not a survey of how U.S. citizens thought folks from other countries felt about Obama. Further, do you have evidence that these survey's were skewed in favor of Blacks, liberals and politically correct types opinions? Of course you don't.
You might want to take a look at the linked site before you make any more assumptions.
You're rambling.
No - No Rambling.
You’re in idealistic dreamland.
Can’t you comprehend / is it to difficult for you.
You do know what natural order is ?
Nature. ?
Just because you don’t like what’s said.
I think you just reminded me why it's not worth giving any more answers than just the usual insult or deflection. You really aren't interested in learning anything new. What "the guy" said was that Obama had a surge of seats upon his election which was not the norm. So comparing his starting seats with the mid terms skews the results. If you used the norm or what he had prior to his election it IS normal and actually not as bad as Bush experienced. Really not that technical to understand.
And yet, A lot of people say it is folks who believe as you do who have trouble coping with reality....because you turn a blind eye to anything that does not fit with your preconceived notions.
You do understand the surveys reflect how foreigners (people living in other countries) responded. It was not a survey of how U.S. citizens thought folks from other countries felt about Obama. Further, do you have evidence that these survey's were skewed in favor of Blacks, liberals and politically correct types opinions? Of course you don't.
You might want to take a look at the linked site before you make any more assumptions.
Nah, it's how you don't understand the discussionLOL I understand it perfectly, when the facts don't fit the liberal narrative, it's perfectly acceptable to manipulate information and shift timelines to lessen the impact of failure. All good.
I understand stood it - And kept it simple. ;DCommon sense isn't a strong suit of American liberals.
No formulas No comparisons Needed.
He (obuma) lost a load of seats mid term....Fact.
Great fake news thread OP ;)
He has ZERO evidence but again he's spouting nonsense that fits in with his world view regardless of what facts you present to show he is dead wrong....
You've actually hit on the problem.....as I mentioned, these guys on the right DO NOT WANT to learn anything new....and you are dead right that the more information you give them, the more they double down on their ignorance.....the mods on here used to provide some semblance of trying to get guys to PROVE their assertions but they have basically fallen in with this ignorant group of ball-lickers
I take it your a black man & a liberal ::)
Facts ::) Ha.
And as much evidence as you have or prime.
I haven't seen a landslide of evidence from you either.....FACTS..Trump is an abject liar.....he just got caught in ANOTHER lie where he was heard on a tape possessed by his ex-lawyer, Michael Cohen discussing paying off a woman he denied in the media ever knowing or having sex with.....of course you will ignore that as well and deflect and talk about liberals
I haven't seen a landslide of evidence from you either.....FACTS..Trump is an abject liar.....he just got caught in ANOTHER lie where he was heard on a tape possessed by his ex-lawyer, Michael Cohen discussing paying off a woman he denied in the media ever knowing or having sex with.....of course you will ignore that as well and deflect and talk about liberals
If You say so.... ::)
Whats so important about his private life Before he was elected President.
If indeed it was before he was president.?
Also I'm not American or live in America (Though my daughter does)
Yes I do Like Trump & what he is doing & his political stance
and its clearly having an effect on the stupid politics of what has been allowed
to happen here in the UK & EU - Any one or thing that alters / stops the rot from them politicians
is Good.
If Trump was leading another country, I might find it entertaining as well :)
I haven't seen a landslide of evidence from you either.....FACTS..Trump is an abject liar.....he just got caught in ANOTHER lie where he was heard on a tape possessed by his ex-lawyer, Michael Cohen discussing paying off a woman he denied in the media ever knowing or having sex with.....of course you will ignore that as well and deflect and talk about liberalsHe did not engage is sexual relations with that woman!!
He did not engage is sexual relations with that woman!!
Bill Clinton 1996
LOL I understand it perfectly, when the facts don't fit the liberal narrative, it's perfectly acceptable to manipulate information and shift timelines to lessen the impact of failure. All good.
Common sense isn't a strong suit of American liberals.
He did not engage is sexual relations with that woman!!
Bill Clinton 1996
The same old 'it's been done before, so it's alright to do it again' nonsense. That Clinton lied in 1996 about his extramarital affairs does not excuse Trump doing the same in 2018. This is 2018 not 1996. Most people have moved on.
The same old 'it's been done before, so it's alright to do it again' nonsense. That Clinton lied in 1996 about his extramarital affairs does not excuse Trump doing the same in 2018. This is 2018 not 1996. Most people have moved on.
To be fair, Clinton was President and had the affair and USED THE WHITE HOUSE / OVAL OFFICE and lied.
That is outrageously abhorrent behavior from a sitting President.
Trump was a citizen when he had his alleged affair.
Lying about it if in fact he is, falls FAR short of actually having the affair as President.
You should be an expert on information manipulation, considering how you exaggerate in your posts, such as; the recent one about Maxine Waters living way outside the district/ghetto she represents when the truth is she lives .10 mile - 2 blocks out side her district and this is because the district was changed due to redistricting/gerrymandering."way outside"? I believe the statement was simply, she doesn't even live in the area she represents and that statement is 100% correct.
The same old 'it's been done before, so it's alright to do it again' nonsense. That Clinton lied in 1996 about his extramarital affairs does not excuse Trump doing the same in 2018. This is 2018 not 1996. Most people have moved on.Same old? Trump had his affair as a common citizen of America, he didn't fuck some fat ugly broad in the Oval office with a cigar while he was president, then go on tv an lie to the entire country about it. ::)
To be fair, Clinton was President and had the affair and lied. That is outrageously abhorrent behavior from a sitting President. Trump was a citizen when he had his alleged affair. Lying about it if in fact he is, falls short of actually having the affair as President. Having said that, its my opinion based on pretty good information that Trump lies at a rate that shadows every president to ever hold office.I don't know if he ever denied having the affair, I think the issue is more about whether or not he paid the big mouth whore to keep her slut mouth shut. To be honest, since all of that apparently happened BEFORE he became president, I don't give a fuck. Do we judge all presidents on what they did before they were president?
You should be an expert on information manipulation, considering how you exaggerate in your posts, such as; the recent one about Maxine Waters living way outside the district/ghetto she represents when the truth is she lives .10 mile - 2 blocks out side her district and this is because the district was changed due to redistricting/gerrymandering.By the way. Just a few seconds of research shows that race baiter Maxine owns multiple pieces of real estate, registers to vote using the address closest to her district, but actually resides quite a distance away. With all those murders, I wonder why she'd stay so far away? ::)
This is horrible. So am I to understand that all Republican representatives live within their district? If this is the case Maxine is certainly to be vilified. Just need to know we are holding her to the same standard. is that right?
This is horrible. So am I to understand that all Republican representatives live within their district? If this is the case Maxine is certainly to be vilified. Just need to know we are holding her to the same standard. is that right?Oh goodness no. There's a list that has a shit ton of reps that don't live in their own zones. You're just sitting around all retired, look it up. Maxine is vilified because of the shit she talks. You seem quite ok with people judging Trumps every move and word, why not mad maxines?
Oh goodness no. There's a list that has a shit ton of reps that don't live in their own zones. You're just sitting around all retired, look it up. Maxine is vilified because of the shit she talks. You seem quite ok with people judging Trumps every move and word, why not mad maxines?
If you set down your diet caffeine free sugar free decaf latte for a minute and google her name, you can see even the people in her district are starting to wake up.
Oh goodness no. There's a list that has a shit ton of reps that don't live in their own zones. You're just sitting around all retired, look it up. Maxine is vilified because of the shit she talks. You seem quite ok with people judging Trumps every move and word, why not mad maxines?
If you set down your diet caffeine free sugar free decaf latte for a minute and google her name, you can see even the people in her district are starting to wake up.
To be fair, Clinton was President and had the affair and lied. That is outrageously abhorrent behavior from a sitting President. Trump was a citizen when he had his alleged affair. Lying about it if in fact he is, falls short of actually having the affair as President. Having said that, its my opinion based on pretty good information that Trump lies at a rate that shadows every president to ever hold office.
What amazes me is that his lies are often silly ones and that he can't remember what he lied about from one day to the next, or so it seems because he so often trips himself up.
I've had several discussions with my conservative friends about Clinton's extra marital affairs. They feel very strongly about our presidents being moral leaders. I'm less concerned about these dalliances and more interested in job performance. One thing most of us can agree on is that lying about this only makes matters worse. I believe extra marital affairs is a personal issue between the husband and the wife and not everyone's business. I know that I'm probably in the minority about this.
Unless you are a public official and the conduct occurs while holding public office. Public officials don't have much of a private life.
You make a very good point about the scrutiny everything Trump says & doesHe makes no point you simpleton fuckwit. What president didn't have every move scrutinized? Fairs fair, are you Elmer Fudd?
Then the same can apply to other politicians
Fairs fair.
Well Said.
This is true, but that doesn't make it right. Public officials do have private lives until the jig is up and it's exposed. This list of public officials who have been caught with their 'pants down' so to speak is endless and dates back to 1776.
"There is some emphasis on sex scandals since the mid-1970s, because before then the media was less inclined to cover these matters." Wikipedia
He makes no point you simpleton fuckwit. What president didn't have every move scrutinized? Fairs fair, are you Elmer Fudd?
He makes no point you simpleton fuckwit. What president didn't have every move scrutinized? Fairs fair, are you Elmer Fudd?Obama. The media was far too busy swinging from his nappy kenyan balls to focus on the bullshit going on during his presidency.
What amazes me is that his lies are often silly ones and that he can't remember what he lied about from one day to the next, or so it seems because he so often trips himself up.
I've had several discussions with my conservative friends about Clinton's extra marital affairs. They feel very strongly about our presidents being moral leaders. I'm less concerned about these dalliances and more interested in job performance. One thing most of us can agree on is that lying about this only makes matters worse. I believe extra marital affairs is a personal issue between the husband and the wife and not everyone's business. I know that I'm probably in the minority about this.
He makes no point you simpleton fuckwit. What president didn't have every move scrutinized? Fairs fair, are you Elmer Fudd?
By the way. Just a few seconds of research shows that race baiter Maxine owns multiple pieces of real estate, registers to vote using the address closest to her district, but actually resides quite a distance away. With all those murders, I wonder why she'd stay so far away? ::)
Edit: Before you cry about the 4.8 million figure, it was recently corrected to "about 2.8 million dollars" ::)
You completely glossed over / neglected the behaviour & lies of Clinton
Also Your tones changed from ravaging Trump for his affair before he was
President to quite passive.... Now your More Concerned about job Performance ::)
The affairs or being caught having an affair should be for the Man & Wife to sort / resolve.
Though when a current president is having an affair and conducts himself as Clinton did
In the White House / oval it Then is public business if he didn’t have the frame of mind to
Keep his sex life out of the White House / oval you’ve got to question his whole rational
And then he didn’t have the back bone to own up & admit it.
That’s as bad or worse.
Any impression I may have given that I was 'ravaging' Trump because he had an affair, was unintentional. Honestly, I don't give a shit who has and affair(s) unless they are my partner. Lying about the affair is a different matter and one that bothers me. This goes for anyone who lies, including Clinton. Trump seems to have issues with being truthful about everything. I'm concerned with any president's job performance because as a taxpayer and citizen, that's my right.
Clinton was sleeping around with many women, including numerous prostitutes.Fact
Clinton was sexually harassing several women who weren't exactly willing participants.
Clinton was out and out sexually assaulting/raping those women who had zero interest in him.
He did it as Attorney General of Arkansas.
He did it as Governor of Arkansas.
He did it as President of the United States of America.
Are the allegations about Trumps sexual exploits
While he is President
And in the White House / Oval Office
Ohh and Clinton Lied his arse off & Survived
Is that Okay with you.
It is very relevant because of what Clinton did & where he did it
While being president.
If Clinton gets a pass
Then Trump has Nothing to answer for.
You completely glossed over / neglected the behaviour & lies of Clinton
Also Your tones changed from ravaging Trump for his affair before he was
President to quite passive.... Now your More Concerned about job Performance ::)
The affairs or being caught having an affair should be for the Man & Wife to sort / resolve.
Though when a current president is having an affair and conducts himself as Clinton did
In the White House / oval it Then is public business if he didn’t have the frame of mind to
Keep his sex life out of the White House / oval you’ve got to question his whole rational
And then he didn’t have the back bone to own up & admit it.
That’s as bad or worse.
Yes true..but we forget that Clinton was also IMPEACHED FOR THAT LIE....and payoffs weren't even involved....should Trump be impeached as well???????????...yes or no???????????
Yes true..but we forget that Clinton was also IMPEACHED FOR THAT LIE....and payoffs weren't even involved....should Trump be impeached as well???????????...yes or no???????????It's been pointed out several times, Bill cigared Monica in the White House, while he was president. Trump banged a porn star and allegedly paid her off, before he was president.
It's been pointed out several times, Bill cigared Monica in the White House, while he was president. Trump banged a porn star and allegedly paid her off, before he was president.
Even impeached, Clinton didn't step down from his Presidency.
Clinton was sleeping around with many women, including numerous prostitutes.
Clinton was sexually harassing several women who weren't exactly willing participants.
Clinton was out and out sexually assaulting/raping those women who had zero interest in him.
He did it as Attorney General of Arkansas.
He did it as Governor of Arkansas.
He did it as President of the United States of America.
Fact
There does seem to be some inequity between the public and media's response to Clinton's infidelities and their response to Trump's. Why do you think this is?
It's been pointed out several times, Bill cigared Monica in the White House, while he was president. Trump banged a porn star and allegedly paid her off, before he was president.
Even impeached, Clinton didn't step down from his Presidency.
There does seem to be some inequity between the public and media's response to Clinton's infidelities and their response to Trump's. Why do you think this is?
Clinton lied to offset an ongoing sexual harassment suit - Paula Jones - that was the lie. Clinton was a disgusting creep. He lied to deprive Paula Jones her day incourt
Clinton was getting it on w a hat intern 21 years old in the wh w a cigar. How does that compare
Because Trump is banging porn stars and paying them off..it just seems to be more unseemlyAre you saying Clinton didn't pay anyone off?
President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit that led to the worst political crisis of his career and only the third presidential impeachment inquiry in American history.
Because Trump is banging porn stars and paying them off..it just seems to be more unseemly
Should Donald be impeached for an affair when he was a private citizen-NO
Should all presidents / politicians be impeached for lying
That queue would be everlasting as when their mouths move
You can be fairly certain their lying. ;D
It's been pointed out several times, Bill cigared Monica in the White House, while he was president. Trump banged a porn star and allegedly paid her off, before he was president.
Even impeached, Clinton didn't step down from his Presidency.
Clinton was getting it on w a hat intern 21 years old in the wh w a cigar. How does that compare
I don't think it matters if Trump or his people paid Stormy off or arranged a deal for the other woman. What matters is where the money came from. If it was campaign funds which violates ethics laws, then he's in trouble. Just how much trouble we don't know. Could be just a fine or it could be more.Plus he paid Paula Jones off.
Clinton was subsequently acquitted of these charges by the Senate on February 12, 1999.[2] Two other impeachment articles – a second perjury charge and a charge of abuse of power – failed in the House. So, technically, Clinton was not impeached. That's likely why he didn't step down.
you were the one who said the Obama marriage was a sham and that they would divorce as soon as his presidency was over....STILL WAITING FOR THAT...meanwhile a marriage is falling apart right before your eyes right in the white house and SILENCE
There does seem to be some inequity between the public and media's response to Clinton's infidelities and their response to Trump's. Why do you think this is?
There does seem to be some inequity between the public and media's response to Clinton's infidelities and their response to Trump's. Why do you think this is?
The Obama marriage is like the Clinton marriage.
They are never around each other.
They are living separate lives.
The only difference lies in which one plays for the home team.
In the Clinton marriage, the wife is a dyke.
In the Obama marriage, the husband is a cocksmoker.
Hope this helps.
Plus he paid Paula Jones off.
While he was in office.
It's pretty simple. Despite the mainstream media's attempt to conflate the two, one was an AG, a Governor, and a President of the United States during many of these indiscretions. The other was a private citizen.
Did he pay her off with someone else's money, like campaign funds or syphoned donations from his charitable foundation?We'd have to ask him where the money for his "legal defense fund" comes from.
The settlement agreement calls for the president to pay the $850,000 within 60 days. Clinton's lawyers said the president's insurers would pay a large part of the settlement and that his legal defense fund would pay the rest. A fund established in February had collected $2.2 million for his legal defense by the end of June.
We'd have to ask him where the money for his "legal defense fund" comes from.
Like Clinton, Trump has a platoon of private lawyers in addition to the White House counsel. While the White House lawyers are paid government salaries, by taxpayers, the Trump White House has not indicated how much the private lawyers are being paid, or by whom.So paying Paula Jones 150k more than she asked for after the case was dismissed isn't hush money?
You're talking apples and oranges. Hush money and money raised for a legal defense fund are not the same thing.
Does someone elected to public office sign a vow of monogamy and/or is there a morals clause? I've searched and found nothing to support that there is. As I've stated before,in my opinion, extramarital indiscretions are a matter between spouses regardless of whether someone holds public office at the time or not.
you're deluded.....they are ALWAYS with each other ..constantly vacationing together and was at the JayZ concert yesterday together....
good try though
And you're in denial.
He is a homosexual living a separate life from her.
They didn't even live in the same residence back in Illinois before he was elected senator.
He sucks cock. He'll suck yours. I'm sure you would let him.
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One of many.
Think there’s a good chance you are correct.
Well Said.
Chandoo was Obama’s gay sugar daddy from Pakistan.
So paying Paula Jones 150k more than she asked for after the case was dismissed isn't hush money?
Oh dear - you’re going to upset many on here saying that. GOOD. ;D
Doesn't upset me. It's not pertinent and even if it were, who gives a shit whether Obama had a sugar daddy or not?
Hush money and legal expenses are two entirely different things. Paula Jones was paid $850K. To finance the settlement, president Clinton drew about $375,000 from his and HRC's personal funds and got the rest of the money, about $475,000, from an insurance policy. The public is waiting to find out where the money for Stormy and Karen's 'hush money" came from.Big difference is one was a sitting president, the other was a private citizen.
Call these payoffs whatever you choose. It makes no difference to me. As I've repeatedly said, these two guys' peccadilloes mean nothing to me.
Big difference is one was a sitting president, the other was a private citizen.Remember the issue (IMO) isn't about the deed, it is about where the money for the pay-offs came from. Of course there's the court of public opinion which is more apt to look at this from a morales standpoint. If that's what your talking about, then have fun. I'm not one for public opinion. The public should stay out of folks' personal business. Realistically, I know they never will because they never have before.
Think there’s a good chance you are correct.
Well Said.
an even better chance he is wrongor an even greater chance you are wrong.
or an even greater chance you are wrong.
Is this not a fagot we are looking at?
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an even better chance he is wrong