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Title: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Kwon on August 09, 2018, 03:36:46 AM
Who's the Fascist? (https://www.facebook.com/DCNFthefacts/videos/634979896901929/)
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: IroNat on August 09, 2018, 04:03:34 AM
Too far one way or the other and you end up on the other side.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Tapeworm on August 09, 2018, 04:32:02 AM
I always interpreted Fascism as being a form of government in which individual rights are subordinated to state mandates because individuals in mutual conflict with one another are less capable of creating a good society than a government is, since the government is actively seeking to benefit the society as a whole, while the individual is only seeking benefit to himself without regard to those around him.

I'm not sure I disagree with that.  Most people are selfish idiots who exchange long term welfare for short term satisfaction.  Go on down to the DMV for a few hours then tell me about how you believe in democracy.


Anyway, this thread will now be about skin color for some reason.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: SuperTed on August 09, 2018, 04:53:46 AM
I always interpreted Fascism as being a form of government in which individual rights are subordinated to state mandates because individuals in mutual conflict with one another are less capable of creating a good society than a government is, since the government is actively seeking to benefit the society as a whole, while the individual is only seeking benefit to himself without regard to those around him.

99% of people don't even know what Fascism is. They just call anyone or anything that is authoritarian and repressive "Fascist!"
What you end up with is both cuckservatives and libtards calling each other it - as the video shows. ::)

If anything, all this just does is shift the political paradigm further to the left by demonizing the ideology which fought to save many nations from Communism/Marxism.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Marty Champions on August 09, 2018, 05:44:49 AM
wat is fascism

btw these special words are annoying when they can mean different things to different folks
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 09, 2018, 06:12:01 AM
Trying to silence an opposing view through violence is one of the major tenets of Fascism. That's why these violent liberal Antifa types are actually the definition of Fascism.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Marty Champions on August 09, 2018, 06:20:52 AM
Trying to silence an opposing view through violence is one of the major tenets of Fascism. That's why these violent liberal Antifa types are actually the definition of Fascism.
they are against fascism
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Purge_WTF on August 09, 2018, 06:22:56 AM
they are against fascism

 I hope you're trolling.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 09, 2018, 06:36:42 AM
I read a book called “Liberal Facism” about six years ago and that author brought up some gtreat points. If you like to read, I’d say grab it as it’s a quick one. I’ll forewarn some of you, he is Jewish.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 09, 2018, 06:42:28 AM
they are against fascism

They are the Nazi brown shirts that silenced any opposition to Hitler through violence and intimidation.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: SuperTed on August 09, 2018, 06:54:57 AM
wat is fascism

btw these special words are annoying when they can mean different things to different folks

Some books worth reading -

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Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: DanM on August 09, 2018, 07:08:56 AM
The sad reality is most people, even those who are smart will give up the majority of their freedoms as long as their basic needs are met and they are able to be bombarded with excess pleasure and distraction on a regular basis.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: SuperTed on August 09, 2018, 07:21:52 AM
they are against fascism

Yes, they are radical communists/marxists and anarchists. They've existed in Europe for decades and seek a revolution similar to what occurred previously in France and Russia with the upheaval of traditional societal norms and hierarchy.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Marty Champions on August 09, 2018, 08:02:47 AM
im still confused about fascism, by definition its dictatorial power forcible suppresion of opposition and control of industry and commerce


antifa says they dont want fascism but theyre actions certainly side with fascism right, wat am i missing. do as i say not as i do?
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: IroNat on August 09, 2018, 08:05:07 AM
Yes, they are radical communists/marxists and anarchists. They've existed in Europe for decades and seek a revolution similar to what occurred previously in France and Russia with the upheaval of traditional societal norms and hierarchy.

Truth.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: ilalin on August 09, 2018, 08:30:25 AM
I have not 'really' been in the States except for a few tourist visits.
Many years ago I remember a fellow Canadian staying in the USA (some major city) and saying that at night through his hotel window he'd see people walking out at night 'looking for trouble'...
This stayed in my mind and now the media frenzy is feeding that thought...people looking for trouble...

To my fellow Americans my question is, is it really brewing in the major cities like it's been portrayed in the recent years?
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: SuperTed on August 09, 2018, 09:35:23 AM
im still confused about fascism, by definition its dictatorial power forcible suppresion of opposition and control of industry and commerce


antifa says they dont want fascism but theyre actions certainly side with fascism right, wat am i missing. do as i say not as i do?

Antifa are aggressive and authoritarian but that's where most similarities end.

Fascism believes strongly in national identity, heritage, hierarchy and traditional societal values.
The Marxists (Antifa) wish to destroy all these concepts since they view them as oppressive inventions.

Compare their beliefs regarding gender for instance; Fascists promote the traditional male and female positions within society. Marxists reject these positions and want them dismantled. This is why they often invent new terms such as "gender fluidity". It is simply an attack on traditional norms.

I would suggest you research historical events such as the French and Russian revolutions or the Spanish civil war. They provide a good lesson in understanding the "left vs right" political sides and how it still impacts our world.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: IroNat on August 09, 2018, 11:31:07 AM
I have not 'really' been in the States except for a few tourist visits.
Many years ago I remember a fellow Canadian staying in the USA (some major city) and saying that at night through his hotel window he'd see people walking out at night 'looking for trouble'...
This stayed in my mind and now the media frenzy is feeding that thought...people looking for trouble...

To my fellow Americans my question is, is it really brewing in the major cities like it's been portrayed in the recent years?

There has always been places in major cities in the USA where you should not go.

Gangs, drugs, crime, etc.  You don't go there.  That is where 99% of the shootings take place between rival gangs fighting over turf and payback hits.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 09, 2018, 12:48:15 PM
Antifa are the blackshirts of the socialists/far left.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2018, 01:18:41 PM
Too far one way or the other and you end up on the other side.

I'll continue treading-water for as long as I possibly can.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: IroNat on August 09, 2018, 03:10:57 PM
I'll continue treading-water for as long as I possibly can.

That's the spirit!
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Parker on August 09, 2018, 03:15:13 PM
The sad reality is most people, even those who are smart will give up the majority of their freedoms as long as their basic needs are met and they are able to be bombarded with excess pleasure and distraction on a regular basis.
And look what’s happening...
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 09, 2018, 11:07:32 PM
The Antifa cowards are going to get theirs.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: BSN on August 10, 2018, 12:08:08 AM
 ;D

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Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Primemuscle on August 10, 2018, 12:47:44 AM
;D

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Love it! Wonder if Panda's are bigoted toward other mammals? 
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 10, 2018, 02:35:04 AM
Antifa are aggressive and authoritarian but that's where most similarities end.

Fascism believes strongly in national identity, heritage, hierarchy and traditional societal values.
The Marxists (Antifa) wish to destroy all these concepts since they view them as oppressive inventions.

Compare their beliefs regarding gender for instance; Fascists promote the traditional male and female positions within society. Marxists reject these positions and want them dismantled. This is why they often invent new terms such as "gender fluidity". It is simply an attack on traditional norms.

I would suggest you research historical events such as the French and Russian revolutions or the Spanish civil war. They provide a good lesson in understanding the "left vs right" political sides and how it still impacts our world.

Except that originally Mussolini and the prime fascists started as extreme-left wingers. Mussolini was a anarcho-syndicalist. And both Fascism and Marxism have roots in the French Revolution- the concept of Nationalism was mostly created by the Jacobins (the French National Anthem still has that verse about "the impure blood that has to be shed"). If anything, Fascism was a dialectical reaction to Marxism, which was first and foremost a philosophy of History that believed that Reason was embodied in the historical development of Capitalism (simply turning around Hegel's philosophy in fact). Fascism substituted Nation to History.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: IroNat on August 10, 2018, 04:45:22 AM
Mussolini made the trains run on time.

This was his great accomplishment.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Griffith on August 10, 2018, 10:11:03 AM
Mussolini made the trains run on time.

This was his great accomplishment.

His mistake was joining Hitler, before that he did a lot of good for Italy and tried to modernize the country, making education compulsory and moving the country away from basically still being a feudal state.

The Italian Fascists repeatedly told the Germans they were not ready for war, and would need at least another 5 years to modernize their military. They had also spent massive amounts in the Ethiopian War and the Spanish Civil War and were facing heavy sanctions. The Germans said they had no plans for a European war. Then they invaded Poland.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Griffith on August 10, 2018, 10:15:38 AM
Except that originally Mussolini and the prime fascists started as extreme-left wingers. Mussolini was a anarcho-syndicalist. And both Fascism and Marxism have roots in the French Revolution- the concept of Nationalism was mostly created by the Jacobins (the French National Anthem still has that verse about "the impure blood that has to be shed"). If anything, Fascism was a dialectical reaction to Marxism, which was first and foremost a philosophy of History that believed that Reason was embodied in the historical development of Capitalism (simply turning around Hegel's philosophy in fact). Fascism substituted Nation to History.

The Italian Social Republic (1943-1945) went back to those roots, even though they were a puppet state under German control.

There were plans that businesses with over a 100 employees were to be nationalized and syndicates representing various occupations would deal and negotiate with the state on behalf of workers.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: IroNat on August 10, 2018, 10:34:54 AM
Pandas are prejudiced against all black bears, brown bears and polar bears.
Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: BSN on August 10, 2018, 11:45:00 PM
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Title: Re: "That's what you get for being a Fascist!"
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 11, 2018, 06:56:36 AM
I have not 'really' been in the States except for a few tourist visits.
Many years ago I remember a fellow Canadian staying in the USA (some major city) and saying that at night through his hotel window he'd see people walking out at night 'looking for trouble'...
This stayed in my mind and now the media frenzy is feeding that thought...people looking for trouble...

To my fellow Americans my question is, is it really He-brewing in the major cities like it's been portrayed in the recent years?

Fixed