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Title: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 01:35:51 PM
A poster for a recent Pearl Jam concert has sparked outrage for depicting the corpse of President Donald Trump.

The band staged a concert to get fans to vote for Democratic Sen. Jon Tester on Monday. To promote the show, bassist Jeff Ament and artist Bobby Draws Skullz drew up some artwork that included graphic imagery of the White House on fire and the Washington Monument and Lincoln Memorial cracked and breaking.

The artwork also included an image of the corpse of Trump being picked at by a bald eagle while it reaches for a briefcase that appears to have the communist hammer and sickle emblem on it.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/15/pearl-jam-shares-poster-depicting-trumps-corpse-and-burning-white-house.html (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/15/pearl-jam-shares-poster-depicting-trumps-corpse-and-burning-white-house.html)
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 01:37:44 PM
That's how the left and its operatives in the arts, media, politics, and social 'movements' expresses itself: with murder, threats, ultimatums, bigotry, and identity politics that pressure everyone who isn't under their narrative to either disappear or be slaughtered.

Does Pearl Jam ever intend to show similar posters in China to protest that country's non-elected President or go around slandering the Supreme leader of Iran? Because if they did, no amount of American diplomatic pressure would get them released from the prisons they'd be locked up in.

But sure, take shots at Trump, knowing he can't do anything to you. 150% coward behavior.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 15, 2018, 01:47:02 PM
Pearl Jam are still alive?
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 01:47:51 PM
Pearl Jam are still alive?
They weren't really relevant anymore so they chose to attack Trump since that's how nobodies make back in the news when their star has faded. It's the new version of Celebrity Boxing.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: JustPlaneJane on August 15, 2018, 01:50:40 PM
They weren't really relevant anymore so they chose to attack Trump since that's how nobodies make back in the news when their star has faded. It's the new version of Celebrity Boxing.

Gayer than Matt Canning in thigh high leather boots
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Zillotch on August 15, 2018, 01:53:55 PM
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/pCDMojtTDDxffc2fzpiQVA--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/consequence_of_sound_458/9adf2beaf7f23bf1a334e5aa34d74482)

(http://ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2018/08/PearlJamPoster1.jpg?w=980&q=75)

(https://ktmf.images.worldnow.com/images/17420101_G.jpg?auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=800&lastEditedDate=20180815121630)
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 02:03:56 PM
Disgusting. In the majority of countries, this would be grounds for imprisonment for defaming the head of state and fomenting anti-national hatred.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: ratherbebig on August 15, 2018, 02:09:56 PM
now thats free speech at its best! cool poster!
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 15, 2018, 02:15:12 PM
Pearl Jam are a bunch of weak wristed fops anyways, lol. They get an artist strung out on bath salts to make a goofy poster just so they can show  their left wing fans that they are still
cool.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 15, 2018, 02:19:08 PM
Drug fueled, depressing, estrogen rock.  Fuck them.  #MAGA
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: HTexan on August 15, 2018, 02:21:23 PM
Fucking loser butt hurt trumplets. “Waah, I want free speech but I get mad at others using free speech” ::)
That being said, a dead current president does cross a line.  :-\
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: BB on August 15, 2018, 02:39:04 PM
"Sure, we're a bunch of mid 50's multi-millionaires, but we're edgy dude. Check out the poster".

Get the fuck out of here :).
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Fortress on August 15, 2018, 02:39:11 PM
Pearl Jam hasn’t been anything for a very long time. Even hardcore fans admit its output has been largely unappealing since the glory days.

And Vedder is a complete tool.

The left is dramatically embarrassing. And as said, cowardly.

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 15, 2018, 03:12:17 PM
Pearl Jam hasn’t been anything for a very long time. Even hardcore fans admit its output has been largely unappealing since the glory days.

And Vedder is a complete tool.

The left is dramatically embarrassing. And as said, cowardly.



To be fair, very few bands do anything interesting once the members get into their 30s. When they have some initial success, they get married, buy houses, and have kids. At that point, they only together with the band mates for a tour to make money.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 03:14:56 PM
To be fair, very few bands do anything interesting once the members get into their 30s. When they have some initial success, they get married, buy houses, and have kids. At that point, they only together with the band mates for a tour to make money.
Why isn't this being investigated by the Secret Service? One visit to each band member would concentrate their minds about what they did. People who've been visited by the President's security service never walk away from it anything but shaken and completely cured of their need to be cool and edgy by threatening the President (a serious crime).
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Fortress on August 15, 2018, 03:16:11 PM
To be fair, very few bands do anything interesting once the members get into their 30s. When they have some initial success, they get married, buy houses, and have kids. At that point, they only together with the band mates for a tour to make money.

In general, yes.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 15, 2018, 03:33:50 PM
A poster for a recent Pearl Jam concert has sparked outrage for depicting the corpse of President Donald Trump.

The band staged a concert to get fans to vote for Democratic Sen. Jon Tester on Monday. To promote the show, bassist Jeff Ament and artist Bobby Draws Skullz drew up some artwork that included graphic imagery of the White House on fire and the Washington Monument and Lincoln Memorial cracked and breaking.

The artwork also included an image of the corpse of Trump being picked at by a bald eagle while it reaches for a briefcase that appears to have the communist hammer and sickle emblem on it.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/15/pearl-jam-shares-poster-depicting-trumps-corpse-and-burning-white-house.html (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/15/pearl-jam-shares-poster-depicting-trumps-corpse-and-burning-white-house.html)


So...
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 03:59:44 PM
I seriously doubt any Republican would be offended by this Pearl Jam poster

They have a high tolerance for shit like that

Republicans are well known for their tolerance and respect of all forms of free speech (not counting the crybaby snowflake in the White House)

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:01:25 PM

So...
So they're violating federal law, you fucking jungle-fever having wank stain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatening_the_President_of_the_United_States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threatening_the_President_of_the_United_States)
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:03:14 PM
I seriously doubt any Republican would be offended by this Pearl Jam poster

They have a high tolerance for shit like that

Republicans are well known for their tolerance and respect of all forms of free speech (not counting the crybaby snowflake in the White House)


That picture was circulated anonymously on the Internet to thousands of people by Internet meme trolls. It's not in the same category as a poster put up in public (not just online) by a world famous band at its sold-out venues calling for the death of the President and annihilation by fire of his home. This is on par with Peter Fonda called for Trump's young son to be strangled to death, which we received a Secret Service visit for. Doesn't take much for a Pearl Jam fan who hates the right to take images like that literally, since "my favorite singer said it was okay." How long until PJ releases a statement saying it was using creative license and meant no harm to the President or the White House?

The burning effigy? Perfectly good example of what I'm talking about. Whoever did that should've been prosecuted.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 04:11:02 PM
That picture was circulated anonymously on the Internet to thousands of people by Internet meme trolls. It's not in the same category as a poster put up in public (not just online) by a world famous band at its sold-out venues calling for the death of the President and annihilation by fire of his home. This is on par with Peter Fonda called for Trump's young son to be strangled to death, which we received a Secret Service visit for. Doesn't take much for a Pearl Jam fan who hates the right to take images like that literally, since "my favorite singer said it was okay." How long until PJ releases a statement saying it was using creative license and meant no harm to the President or the White House?

The burning effigy? Perfectly good example of what I'm talking about. Whoever did that should've been prosecuted.

The internet obviously has a much wider audience than the group of people attending a concert

As I'm sure you know these two images are just a few of the many examples you can find online in a matter of seconds.

What crime would Pearl Jam be prosecuted for?

The guy burning the effigy of Obama and Clinton wasn't prosecuted for anything that I'm aware of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones_(pastor)#Obama_effigy
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:16:24 PM
The internet obviously has a much wider audience than the group of people attending a concert
Yeah, but the law hasn't caught up to the Internet. That's why if you write a defamatory article in a magazine you can be sued for millions, but I haven't heard of anyone doing it over a blog with the same content (exception being Hogan vs. Gawker, but that was invasion of privacy on top of defamation and he had a huge budget thanks to Peter Thiel financing it).

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As I'm sure you know these two images are just a few of the many examples you can find online in a matter of seconds.

There's lots of images on the Internet. But just like looking at a photo of someone dead from a gunshot wound on Google Images isn't the same as having one in your possession, the law looks for people actively promoting hate rather than just looking at it. In most European countries, denying the Holocaust such as putting an anti-Jewish poster in a public place is prosecuted as hate speech. But owning a book about it isn't.

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What crime would Pearl Jam be prosecuted for?

The one I linked to Vince's reply. It's a real statute and has been used for this kind of thing if there's enough pressure or credibility for it on the threat matrix.

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The guy burning the effigy of Obama and Clinton wasn't prosecuted for anything that I'm aware of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones_(pastor)#Obama_effigy
She wasn't either, but she openly called for the White House to be bombed before this President even moved into it.

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 04:20:17 PM
Yeah, but the law hasn't caught up to the Internet. That's why if you write a defamatory article in a magazine you can be sued for millions, but I haven't heard of anyone doing it over a blog with the same content (exception being Hogan vs. Gawker, but that was invasion of privacy on top of defamation and he had a huge budget thanks to Peter Thiel financing it).

There's lots of images on the Internet. But just like looking at a photo of someone dead from a gunshot wound on Google Images isn't the same as having one in your possession, the law looks for people actively promoting hate rather than just looking at it. In most European countries, denying the Holocaust such as putting an anti-Jewish poster in a public place is prosecuted as hate speech. But owning a book about it isn't.

The one I linked to Vince's reply. It's a real statue and has been used for this kind of thing if there's enough pressure or credibility for it on the threat matrix.
She wasn't either, but she openly called for the White House to be bombed before this President even moved into it.



do you think this concert poster is defamatory to Trump?

regarding the Obama images you can easily find people protesting Obama holding up posters much worse than what you see is the concert poster

As far as I can tell there is no law against poor taste

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: ratherbebig on August 15, 2018, 04:20:25 PM
did kwon3 just spend 12 hours of his day on this subject? yes he did.

and he's not done! 12 more hours coming up!

even if we divide that gimmick account by, say 4 people, thats still 3 hours per person  :(
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:21:14 PM
did kwon3 just spend 12 hours of his day on this subject? yes he did.

and he's not done! 12 more hours coming up!

even if we divide that gimmick account by, say 4 people, thats still 3 hours per person  :(
how much real estate to I occupy in your little head?
because right now, you're in almost every one of my threads and it's reached the point where you're obviously getting very triggered over anything at this point.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:22:22 PM
do you think this concert poster is defamatory to Trump?

regarding the Obama images you can easily find people protesting Obama holding up posters much worse than what you see is the concert poster

As far as I can tell there is no law against poor taste


She was fired from CNN's New Year Eve special which he co-hosted with Anderson Cooper for years beforehand. So obviously CNN's senior management thought that it was not only in poor taste but cause for termination, and partly explains why they're trailing dead last from the other news networks. The American people don't appreciate a millionaire celebrity insulting their head of state with a gruesome decapitation scene and telling them to find it funny.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: ratherbebig on August 15, 2018, 04:26:29 PM
how much real estate to I occupy in your little head?
because right now, you're in almost every one of my threads and it's reached the point where you're obviously getting very triggered over anything at this point.

i think this is the only thread youve made that ive clicked on so you would be wrong again. as usual.

so is it "pretend to be upset"-trolling day today? do you think us getbiggers are new to the internet as a whole? that we havent seen your type a thousand times before over the years? are you that stupid? i mean youve been around cant you at least TRY to make some funny original posts? this is one shitty thread.

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:27:26 PM
i think this is the only thread youve made that ive clicked on so you would be wrong again. as usual.

so is it "pretend to be upset"-trolling day today? do you think us getbiggers are new to the internet as a whole? that we havent seen your type a thousand times before over the years? are you that stupid? i mean youve been around cant you at least TRY to make some funny original posts? this is one shitty thread.


You threatened to kill your ex-girlfriend on your danimal77 account. What's wrong with you? How do you look at yourself in the mirror?
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:28:04 PM
Hannity reviews death threats on video by celebrities on the unhinged left at 1:20.

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: chaos on August 15, 2018, 04:34:52 PM
It's interesting how the left defend violent threats as free speech when it's convenient for them, but let some white dudes get together to celebrate their race and the left shits themselves and all hell breaks loose. Even Antifa and blm couldn't "coexist". ::)

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 04:36:00 PM
She was fired from CNN's New Year Eve special which he co-hosted with Anderson Cooper for years beforehand. So obviously CNN's senior management thought that it was not only in poor taste but cause for termination, and partly explains why they're trailing dead last from the other news networks. The American people don't appreciate a millionaire celebrity insulting their head of state with a gruesome decapitation scene and telling them to find it funny.

as I said

poor taste is not a crime

I don't recall Fox News getting their panties in a twist over any of those Obama's burning effigies or posters

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:37:13 PM
as I said

poor taste is not a crime

I don't recall Fox News getting their panties in a twist over any of those Obama's burning effigies or posters


So what constitutes a legitimate threat to the President's life if holding a severed head of him or saturating a concert venue with pictures of him incinerated by flames and eaten by vultures doesn't meet the criteria?
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 04:38:12 PM
Hannity reviews death threats on video by celebrities on the unhinged left at 1:20.



Any video of Hannity pretending to be upset about this?

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:38:48 PM
It's interesting how the left defend violent threats as free speech when it's convenient for them, but let some white dudes get together to celebrate their race and the left shits themselves and all hell breaks loose. Even Antifa and blm couldn't "coexist". ::)


Gotta send in 75 reporters to film 25 'white' supremacists in the capital last Sunday. Hell, you can fit that many racists into Vince's rectum.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:39:43 PM
Any video of Hannity pretending to be upset about this?


No, instead it was shown for several weeks on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS. I also don't see any severed heads or pictures of a burning white house.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 04:40:09 PM
So what constitutes a legitimate threat to the President's life if holding a severed head of him or saturating a concert venue with pictures of him incinerated by flames and eaten by vultures doesn't meet the criteria?

How about we let the Secret Service worry about

Isn't that their job

Personally, I have a feeling cartoon poster is not going to be high on their list

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:41:45 PM
How about we let the Secret Service worry about

Isn't that their job

Personally, I have a feeling cartoon poster is not going to be high on their list


Do you need the police to figure out if calling your neighbor's cellphone at 3 a.m. and threatening to kill his family is ok too or can you do that all on your own?
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 04:43:33 PM
No, instead it was shown for several weeks on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS. I also don't see any severed heads or pictures of a burning white house.

no severed head

just an individual who loves guns getting up in front of a crowd (and a camera) and wishing for gun violence upon the POTUS and Secretary of State

btw - he's the same dipshit who said this

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“If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”

That seems a lot more of a threat than a cartoon concert poster


Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 04:44:44 PM
Do you need the police to figure out if calling your neighbor's cellphone at 3 a.m. and threatening to kill his family is ok too or can you do that all on your own?

WTF does that have to do with a concert poster

just not following your train of thought here

please connect the dots for us
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:45:04 PM
no severed head

just an individual who loves guns getting up in front of a crowd (and a camera) and wishing for gun violence upon the POTUS and Secretary of State

btw - he's the same dipshit who said this

That seems a lot more of a threat than a cartoon concert poster



And he was visited by the Secret Service and told to watch his step. Did you even know about that?

So why does that only apply to center-right people?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ted-nugent-comments-prompt-secret-service-investigation/2012/04/18/gIQA5vvcRT_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ted-nugent-comments-prompt-secret-service-investigation/2012/04/18/gIQA5vvcRT_story.html)
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:46:09 PM
WTF does that have to do with a concert poster

just not following your train of thought here

please connect the dots for us
I didn't mention the poster. I was asking what constitutes a threat under current law if the things posted so far don't.

You said let the SS figure it out. I asked if you need the regular police to tell you that threatening someone over the phone at odd hours is illegal or if your common sense is enough.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: chaos on August 15, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
Gotta send in 75 reporters to film 25 'white' supremacists in the capital last Sunday. Hell, you can fit that many racists into Vince's rectum.
Just so the reporters can be attacked by the "peaceful" protestors.
Pearl Jam hasn't been relevent since the 90's, even then Vedder had to fake his own disappearance to keep them in the news.

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: ratherbebig on August 15, 2018, 04:48:07 PM
political posters isnt new.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 04:50:14 PM
And he was visited by the Secret Service and told to watch his step. Did you even know about that?

So why does that only apply to center-right people?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ted-nugent-comments-prompt-secret-service-investigation/2012/04/18/gIQA5vvcRT_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ted-nugent-comments-prompt-secret-service-investigation/2012/04/18/gIQA5vvcRT_story.html)

Glad to hear it

He seems much less stable and more of a potential threat than a lame comedian

I hope you've taken a moment away from posting to contact the Secret Service about this concert poster

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: ratherbebig on August 15, 2018, 04:52:01 PM
why upset by poster?

ive seen poster, never upset

never not one time !
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 04:53:26 PM
Glad to hear it

He seems much less stable and more of a potential threat than a lame comedian

I hope you've taken a moment away from posting to contact the Secret Service about this concert poster


It certainly warrants an investigation. I doubt I'm the only one who thinks it's obscene and illegal, considering it's pretty much a trending topic on an otherwise slow news day on the major media outlets.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Tapeworm on August 15, 2018, 04:54:52 PM
why upset by poster?

ive seen poster, never upset

never not one time !

This poster is not ok!
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: ratherbebig on August 15, 2018, 04:57:42 PM
what can other side do to combat this make poster of their own ?
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 04:59:59 PM
I didn't mention the poster. I was asking what constitutes a threat under current law if the things posted so far don't.

You said let the SS figure it out. I asked if you need the regular police to tell you that threatening someone over the phone at odd hours is illegal or if your common sense is enough.

yep, you decided to completely change the context after I replied that the secret service can figure out if the poster is a threat

Clearly "calling your neighbor's cellphone at 3 a.m. and threatening to kill his family" is a completely different scenario than you feeling threatened by a poster

Not sure why you chose to drastically change the topic or perhaps you were trying to conflate a cartoon poster with a phone call making a direct threat to kill someone?

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 05:03:23 PM
yep, you decided to completely change the context after I replied that the secret service can figure out if the poster is a threat

Clearly "calling your neighbor's cellphone at 3 a.m. and threatening to kill his family" is a completely different scenario than you feeling threatened by a poster

What if the poster says "I'm going to kill Donald Trump." Is that still the same deal or is it worse because instead of photos of him burning to death and being eaten, it's written in all-caps in English?

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Not sure why you chose to drastically change the topic or perhaps you were trying to conflate a cartoon poster with a phone call making a direct threat to kill someone?


Do you think a picture of someone's home and their person dying or in flames is a drastic change from a death threat on the phone? How so?
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: ratherbebig on August 15, 2018, 05:11:10 PM
neither side is wrong. youre wrong.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
What if the poster says "I'm going to kill Donald Trump." Is that still the same deal or is it worse because instead of photos of him burning to death and being eaten, it's written in all-caps in English?
Do you think a picture of someone's home and their person dying or in flames is a drastic change from a death threat on the phone? How so?

Yeah, "what if" you completely changed it to a direct and explicit thread by a specific person

great question

Are you just going to keep making up scenarios that haven't actually happened

What if they someone makes a poster of an alien space ship shooting a laser beam into the oval office

Would that be a threat by the artist or by the aliens who are doing the shooting

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 05:13:25 PM
Yeah, "what if" you completely changed it to a direct and explicit thread by a specific person

great question

Are you just going to keep making up scenarios that haven't actually happened

What if they someone makes a poster of an alien space ship shooting a laser beam into the oval office

Would that be a threat by the artist or by the aliens who are doing the shooting


Yes, it would. Whether someone says they'll kill you or hangs a picture of you to your front door with a bullet hole in your forehead and draws blood on it with magic marker, it's the exact same thing: You're promoting the idea of killing that person, unlawfully.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: ratherbebig on August 15, 2018, 05:16:23 PM
Death of a President is a 2006 British docudrama political thriller film about the fictional assassination of George W. Bush, the 43rd U.S. President, on 19 October 2007 in Chicago, Illinois. The film is presented as a future history docudrama and uses actors, archival video footage as well as computer-generated special effects to present the hypothetical aftermath the event had on civil liberties, racial profiling, journalistic sensationalism and foreign policy.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: The Scott on August 15, 2018, 05:24:20 PM
Fucking loser butt hurt trumplets. “Waah, I want free speech but I get mad at others using free speech” ::)
That being said, a dead current president does cross a line.  :-\

So quit snorting it up. 
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: tres_taco_combo on August 15, 2018, 05:41:14 PM
megadeth has the best art work

again... you cannot out troll trump he is the most epic troll ever - stop trying to beat him at this game - the left loose everytime
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 05:48:30 PM
Yes, it would. Whether someone says they'll kill you or hangs a picture of you to your front door with a bullet hole in your forehead and draws blood on it with magic marker, it's the exact same thing: You're promoting the idea of killing that person, unlawfully.

my example was poster of aliens shooting a laser beam into the oval office

you think the Secret Service should take that seriously ?
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 06:23:28 PM
my example was poster of aliens shooting a laser beam into the oval office

you think the Secret Service should take that seriously ?
Should they take the one Pearl Jam made seriously? That one's a lot more graphic, bloody, topical and real, while your example is hypothetical and hasn't been the subject of an uproar in news circles. So how about we stick to that one, since it actually happened. Are those images okay? Where do we draw the line between what's in bad taste and what violates the statutes concerning threatening the U.S. President or his family.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 06:31:11 PM
Should they take the one Pearl Jam made seriously? That one's a lot more graphic, bloody, topical and real, while your example is hypothetical and hasn't been the subject of an uproar in news circles. So how about we stick to that one, since it actually happened. Are those images okay? Where do we draw the line between what's in bad taste and what violates the statutes concerning threatening the U.S. President or his family.

no, they shouldn't
I thought I had made my opinion pretty clear on that

I see no direct threat to the POTUS from the band to the POTUS

for all we know this poster depicts the aftermath of an alien attack

Is that a space ship on the lawn.  What's that other dude doing?

Hanging out smoking a doobie?

Another clue is that Faux News is upset about.  That's how you know it's a non-issue

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 06:35:14 PM
no, they shouldn't
I thought I had made my opinion pretty clear on that

I see no direct threat to the POTUS from the band to the POTUS

for all we know this poster depicts the aftermath of an alien attack

Is that a space ship on the lawn.  What's that other dude doing?

Hanging out smoking a doobie?

Another clue is that Faux News is upset about.  That's how you know it's a non-issue


And I thought I'd made it pretty clear when I asked you what constitutes a threat if displaying the duly elected sitting President has a corpse being picked apart by an eagle while the house he lives in burns to a crisp (something last done by the British with Canadian support in 1812) doesn't meet the requirements. You countered that's up to the Secret Service to define, but then you post a video of Ted Nugent as if that's a crystal clear example of what a threat looks like. He was visited by the Secret Service, so why should Pearl Jam sidestep the same treatment?

Pretty sure it isn't "aliens" but rather a full-on human attack that would cause the scene displayed in their material. Last I checked, previous Presidents were shot by humans, not extraterrestrials. Your name on here was made for this thread.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 06:39:05 PM
And I thought I'd made it pretty clear when I asked you what constitutes a threat if displaying the duly elected sitting President has a corpse being picked apart by an eagle while the house he lives in burns to a crisp (something last done by the British with Canadian support in 1812) doesn't meet the requirements. You countered that's up to the Secret Service to define, but then you post a video of Ted Nugent as if that's a crystal clear example of what a threat looks like. He was visited by the Secret Service, so why should Pearl Jam sidestep the same treatment?

Pretty sure it isn't "aliens" but rather a full-on human attack that would cause the scene displayed in their material. Last I checked, previous Presidents were shot by humans, not extraterrestrials. Your name on here was made for this thread.

fair enough

the cartoon eagle is clearly a legitimate threat to the POTUS

when I look at that poster I clearly see an alien (or maybe a time traveler) who has parked on the White House lawn and appears to be smoking something


Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 06:46:07 PM
fair enough

the cartoon eagle is clearly a legitimate threat to the POTUS

when I look at that poster I clearly see an alien (or maybe a time traveler) who has parked on the White House lawn and appears to be smoking something



Yep, I see that too. It's not Where's Waldo, so the images are pretty easy to define. Like a lot of art, it's abstract and features a lot of zany incongruous themes, including a guy flying over the entire scene on a John Deere lawnmower (possibly a slam at his 'redneck' base).

But the theme of the posters isn't aliens or lawnmowers, it's a burning building and a dead person, and that building is The White House and that person is the President.

But hey, let's not let small details get in the way of a really gnarly band and their edgy marketing materials.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 06:50:00 PM
Yep, I see that too. It's not Where's Waldo, so the images are pretty easy to define. Like a lot of art, it's abstract and features a lot of zany incongruous themes, including a guy flying over the entire scene on a John Deere lawnmower (possibly a slam at his 'redneck' base).

But the theme of the posters isn't aliens or lawnmowers, it's a burning building and a dead person, and that building is The White House and that person is the President.

But hey, let's not let small details get in the way of a really gnarly band and their edgy marketing materials.

agreed

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Rusty Trombone on August 15, 2018, 08:07:15 PM
Pearl who?

Where is the Trump corpse on the poster,I can't find it
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: HTexan on August 15, 2018, 08:12:16 PM
So quit snorting it up. 
You stop snorting cum up first bitch.  :D
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 08:21:57 PM
Pearl who?

Where is the Trump corpse on the poster,I can't find it
As you can see, decomposition set in quickly (or his skin was burnt off), so all that's left is his hair and a briefcase that perplexingly contains a hammer and sickle, symbols of the Soviet Communist regimes of the world and not what you'd expect a left-wing group to be associating with this administration. In the same photo an unseen man is holding a scroll with "2ND" on it, presumably a shot at the second amendment and its supporters, because destroying the White House and killing the President was possibly too subtle for some.

(https://ktmf.images.worldnow.com/images/17420101_G.jpg?auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=800&lastEditedDate=20180815121630)
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 08:48:50 PM
As you can see, decomposition set in quickly (or his skin was burnt off), so all that's left is his hair and a briefcase that perplexingly contains a hammer and sickle, symbols of the Soviet Communist regimes of the world and not what you'd expect a left-wing group to be associating with this administration. In the same photo an unseen man is holding a scroll with "2ND" on it, presumably a shot at the second amendment and its supporters, because destroying the White House and killing the President was possibly too subtle for some.

(https://ktmf.images.worldnow.com/images/17420101_G.jpg?auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=800&lastEditedDate=20180815121630)

LOL - are you joking

Trump loves Russia and Putin loved the USSR so those symbols seem perfectly apt for Trump

Maybe the alien/time traveler (not sure what that dude on the lawn is supposed to be)

This cartoon could be the aftermath of a nuclear war or something like that

I still think it could be alien attack

Trump did just announce his intention to start a Space Force

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 15, 2018, 08:50:10 PM
Gayer than Matt Canning in thigh high leather boots

Hi Matt
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: The Scott on August 15, 2018, 08:51:48 PM
You stop snorting cum up first bitch.  :D

Fairly nice retort there, Hoover boy!   ;D
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 09:12:04 PM
LOL - are you joking

Trump loves Russia and Putin loved the USSR so those symbols seem perfectly apt for Trump
No joke, friend. He's on good terms with Russia and its dictator because that's good business for the U.S. as Russia weighs the pros and cons of building a huge natural gas pipeline with Germany that would crush America's exports or joining up with the great satan dressed in stars and stripes and sharing the wealth by bullying Europe while America forgives the invasion of Crimea in 2014.

Now, to address the real meaning of your tacit implication that these two are in cahoots and besties, then explain the extremely harsh sanctions Trump placed on Russia, which doesn't hurt Putin's billion-dollar bank accounts but those of the old scarf-wearing babushkas sitting at bus stops in Moscow or pushing carts around small villages outside Nizhni-Novgorod.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Straw Man on August 15, 2018, 10:06:32 PM
No joke, friend. He's on good terms with Russia and its dictator because that's good business for the U.S. as Russia weighs the pros and cons of building a huge natural gas pipeline with Germany that would crush America's exports or joining up with the great satan dressed in stars and stripes and sharing the wealth by bullying Europe while America forgives the invasion of Crimea in 2014.

Now, to address the real meaning of your tacit implication that these two are in cahoots and besties, then explain the extremely harsh sanctions Trump placed on Russia, which doesn't hurt Putin's billion-dollar bank accounts but those of the old scarf-wearing babushkas sitting at bus stops in Moscow or pushing carts around small villages outside Nizhni-Novgorod.

yes there is no doubt that Donald Trump is "on good terms with Russia and its dictator"

Its always good when we can find things we agree on

Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: IronMagazine.com on August 15, 2018, 10:47:38 PM
Pearl Jam? LMFAO!
Now I just feel old, they were popular when I was in college, early 1990's.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon3 on August 15, 2018, 11:04:59 PM
they were popular when I was in college, early 1990's.
Wish they'd stayed there too.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Powerlift66 on August 16, 2018, 02:56:43 AM
Horrible, sucky whiny band. Their music is horrific... Retards...
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon on August 16, 2018, 06:27:53 AM
You stop snorting cum up first bitch.  :D

Hi Matt
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 16, 2018, 06:31:10 AM
Horrible, sucky whiny band. Their music is horrific... Retards...

Hi Matt
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 16, 2018, 06:43:09 AM
Horrible, sucky whiny band. Their music is horrific... Retards...

They named their band after the thing they love most.........jizz.
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: ilalin on August 16, 2018, 08:46:49 AM
hey, you want your guns, then you must have your free speech too bitches..
Title: Re: Pearl Jam shares poster depicting Trump's corpse and a burning White House
Post by: HTexan on August 16, 2018, 12:11:30 PM
Hi Matt
Hi Bob