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No one in the history of the human race has ever been treated so unfairly by reality as Trump has been treated.
Trump say he feels sad that Manafort got caught and now convicted of committing many crimes against our country
Poor fella. Just so unfair
This level of unfairness has just never been seen before
Even more unfair is Trumps personal attorney pleading guilty and implicating Trump
So unfair
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Meltdown
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Meltdown
actually its going to be wonderful watching all you neo-cons melting down for the next year or so until impeachment
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Meltdown
trump is melting over this. drama queen
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actually its going to be wonderful watching all you neo-cons melting down for the next year or so until impeachment
ur on crack.
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actually its going to be wonderful watching all you neo-cons melting down for the next year or so until impeachment
So you think Mueller is going to waste our tax dollars for the next year until Trump is 2.5 years into his first term, then try for impeachment?
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So you think Mueller is going to waste our tax dollars for the next year until Trump is 2.5 years into his first term, then try for impeachment?
Mueller isn't worried about tax dollars just like Ken Starr wasn't worried about tax dollars
Remember Ken Starr?
That started out as an investigation about a real estate deal that Clinton was involved in before he became POTUS
That investigation went on for ~ 4 years and ended up with Repubs impeaching Clinton for lying about a consensual sexual relationship
Clinton of course had the balls to show up for an interview with Starr
We know that pansy snowflake Trump isn't likely to do the same
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Mueller isn't worried about tax dollars just like Ken Starr wasn't worried about tax dollars
Remember Ken Starr?
That started out as an investigation about a real estate deal that Clinton was involved in before he became POTUS
That investigation went on for ~ 4 years and ended up with Repubs impeaching Clinton for lying about a consensual sexual relationship
Clinton of course had the balls to show up for an interview with Starr
We know that pansy snowflake Trump isn't likely to do the same
Another waste of tax dollars
A new government report estimates that Independent Counsel Ken Starr's investigation spent nearly $4 million in the six month period that ended September 30, 1997. That brought the three-year price tag of his investigation to just shy of $30 million.
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actually its going to be wonderful watching all you neo-cons melting down for the next year or so until impeachment
Do you even know what impeachment is ?? obviously not
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Another waste of tax dollars
in that case you're correct
4 years and they got nothing and somehow arrived at interrogating the POTUS over his something that wasn't even a crime.
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Whining about tax dollars? Guess you thought Trey Gowdy and the military parade would have been more ideal things to spend it on.
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So you think Mueller is going to waste our tax dollars for the next year until Trump is 2.5 years into his first term, then try for impeachment?
Why is it a waste of our tax dollars to get at corruption in government????….he sure is doing a good job so far....five convictions..with more to come
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Mueller isn't worried about tax dollars just like Ken Starr wasn't worried about tax dollars
Remember Ken Starr?
That started out as an investigation about a real estate deal that Clinton was involved in before he became POTUS
That investigation went on for ~ 4 years and ended up with Repubs impeaching Clinton for lying about a consensual sexual relationship
Clinton of course had the balls to show up for an interview with Starr
We know that pansy snowflake Trump isn't likely to do the same
AGREED X2
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Do you even know what impeachment is ?? obviously not
sigh....resorting to insults isn't going to save the president from this one..keep melting
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sigh....resorting to insults isn't going to save the president from this one..keep melting
So your answer is, no. Got it
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everyone can settle down
Trump will be fine
Cohen's lawyer explains
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everyone can settle down
Trump will be fine
Cohen's lawyer explains
Cohens lawyer is Clinton kiss ass, Lanny Davis, a well known Trump hater that has proven to know nothing about election law violations. Fucktard.
The only way Trump could have committed a crime is if it came out of campaign funds. It didn’t. Hope this helps although I doubt it.
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Why does Trump claim to hire only the best and then when they leave the WH or wind up in trouble he calls them ignorant, incompetent, no good, stupid, lowlife, etc...?
Anyway...
At this rate, Trump will be shitting enough bricks to build his own wall.
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Why does Trump claim to hire only the best and then when they leave the WH or wind up in trouble he calls them ignorant, incompetent, no good, stupid, lowlife, etc...?
Anyway...
At this rate, Trump will be shitting enough bricks to build his own wall.
Trump wasn't a politician and has had some hires that were questionable...but then again he had no real party infrastructure so he's running through what he had to chose from and weed out...
If you need a basketball team but only have midgets to chose from....well, then your center is 4'5"...
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Trump wasn't a politician and has had some hires that were questionable...but then again he had no real party infrastructure so he's running through what he had to chose from and weed out...
If you need a basketball team but only have midgets to chose from....well, then your center is 4'5"...
Kind of would make you refrain from proclaiming "I only have the best basketball players". Until they are off the team and then claiming "he was a short, ignorant lowlife..."
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Trump is a shameless self promoter and has an ego the size of Tbombz forehead as any prez does. Not surprising to anyone really unless you are trying to make a worthless point for the sake of partisanship.
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Cohens lawyer is Clinton kiss ass, Lanny Davis, a well known Trump hater that has proven to know nothing about election law violations. Fucktard.
The only way Trump could have committed a crime is if it came out of campaign funds. It didn’t. Hope this helps although I doubt it.
It's just a shame that Cohen didn't have the foresight to hire phony "coach" as his lawyer
If he had you advising him he wouldn't have been dumb enough to plead guilty to things that aren't crimes
It would be have awesome to see you in court explaining to the judge that these aren't really crimes
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It's just a shame that Cohen didn't have the foresight to hire phony "coach" as his lawyer
If he had you advising him he wouldn't have been dumb enough to plead guilty to things that aren't crimes
It would be have awesome to see you in court explaining to the judge that these aren't really crimes
You didn't know all Trumptards are legal experts? Before any evidence is revealed they know no crime has been committed.
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So you think Mueller is going to waste our tax dollars for the next year until Trump is 2.5 years into his first term, then try for impeachment?
You weren't bitching about tax dollars when Benghazi was investigated over and over were you? Not a single indictment came from it either. Trump will be indicted when its all said and done. Lucky if he isn't charged with treason.
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Cohens lawyer is Clinton kiss ass, Lanny Davis, a well known Trump hater that has proven to know nothing about election law violations. Fucktard.
The only way Trump could have committed a crime is if it came out of campaign funds. It didn’t. Hope this helps although I doubt it.
It came from campaign funds idiot. You actually believe that lying piece of shit? You must be the same kind of person. First Trump said no payment, then he didn't know about a payment, now he said there was a payment, but not from campaign funds. Why not just say that to begin with if that's the truth? Because it's not the truth. He's covering something up.
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You weren't bitching about tax dollars when Benghazi was investigated over and over were you? Not a single indictment came from it either. Trump will be indicted when its all said and done. Lucky if he isn't charged with treason.
See, because there was clear proof available to the public and killary and her cronies osama and mueller and comey all covered up for each other. If you want to investigate corruption, real corruption from years of back scratching and secret handjobs in the alley for promotions type corruption, we have to drain the swamp and quite possibly spill some blood in the process. One big reason I support term limits on any and every government job, whether mayor, congress, senate, leader of the cia/fbi/doj/etc.
It came from campaign funds idiot. You actually believe that lying piece of shit? You must be the same kind of person. First Trump said no payment, then he didn't know about a payment, now he said there was a payment, but not from campaign funds. Why not just say that to begin with if that's the truth? Because it's not the truth. He's covering something up.
You're a bitter, angry little guy. Tell us, exactly how your life has changed for the worse since Trump has taken America to new heights? :D
everyone can settle down
Trump will be fine
Cohen's lawyer explains
Absolutely right, settle down. Your elected officials aren't even talking about impeachment.
Republicans _ and some Democrats _ reject impeachment talk
By LISA MASCARO and STEVE PEOPLES
From Associated Press
August 22, 2018 5:47 PM EST
WASHINGTON (AP) — The day after President Donald Trump was implicated in a federal crime, members of both parties dismissed talk of impeachment, with some Democrats expressing fears Wednesday about such a politically risky step, and Republicans shrugging off the accusations or withholding judgment.
The legal entanglements surrounding Trump — the guilty plea by former lawyer Michael Cohen and the fraud conviction of one-time campaign chairman Paul Manafort — delivered a one-two punch that left lawmakers struggling for an appropriate response ahead of the midterm campaigns.
Trump's strongest supporters echoed his "no collusion" retorts, suggesting that, absent any evidence that he worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election, there is just no high-crimes-and- misdemeanors case for impeachment.
Democrats, meanwhile, are trying to tamp down expectations from their liberal base of taking on the president for fear that impeachment talk will cause GOP voters to rally around Trump in November.
The dynamic underscored the political difficulty of impeachment proceedings on Capitol Hill, especially for Republicans who have been reluctant to criticize the president but now face a new chapter in what has been a difficult relationship.
In pleading guilty to campaign-finance violations and other crimes Tuesday, Cohen said Trump directed a hush-money scheme before the 2016 election to buy the silence of porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal, both of whom said they had sexual relationships with Trump. Trump has accused Cohen of making up "stories in order to get a 'deal'" from federal prosecutors.
Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell brushed past reporters Wednesday without answering questions about Cohen or the possibility that the lawyer's accusations about an illegal campaign cover-up are grounds for impeachment proceedings. GOP House Speaker Paul Ryan, who is away from Washington, had no direct response. An aide said he needs more information.
Other Republicans, though, filled the gaps.
"No collusion=no impeachment," tweeted the influential radio host Hugh Hewitt, setting the day's tone.
He explained that impeachment is a political and legal term of art and said there needs to be a tipping point in public opinion that would push Congress to act. It's not there yet, he tweeted.
Doug Deason, a Texas-based donor and major Trump supporter, said voters simply don't care that Trump behaves badly at times and has associated with people who broke the law.
"In no way, shape or form did we think we were hiring St. Trump to repair the morals of the country," he said.
Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University and a Trump confidant, said: "Anything short of the campaign actually conspiring with Russia to try to impact the election, anything short of that will just be background noise."
Even those few Republicans who have been willing to speak out about Trump are treading carefully in the wake of Cohen's guilty plea.
"I don't think I've witnessed anything like I've witnessed over the last year and a half. Probably, the American people haven't in modern times," said retiring Republican Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee. But he stopped short of passing further judgment on the Cohen case.
"I'm sure there's going to be other revelations that come up," he said, "and I think we ought to just let the process work."
The president defended the hush-money payments Wednesday, saying, incorrectly, that the effort outlined in Cohen's guilty plea wasn't "even a campaign violation." Trump told Fox News in an interview set to air Thursday that the payments "didn't come out of the campaign, and that's big."
The accusation from Cohen has inflamed public debate about impeachment.
Democratic donor Tom Steyer's Twitter feed called for others to join his campaign to impeach the president. "How much more corruption do we need to see?" he tweeted.
Ben Wikler, Washington director for the liberal advocacy group MoveOn, wants Democrats in Congress to join organizations like his that have been demanding impeachment for weeks.
"Now that Trump's personal lawyer has implicated him in a crime, not supporting impeachment feels like a dodge," Wikler said. "Impeachment doesn't have to be the core of your message to the electorate, but it's not something you can bury your head in the sand and ignore."
But Democratic leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi said that unless other information emerges, impeaching Trump is "not a priority" for Democrats if they regain control of the House this fall. Pelosi said she prefers to see Democrats work to ensure special counsel Robert Mueller can finish his investigation.
"If and when the information emerges about that, we'll see," Pelosi said Tuesday as the news about Cohen was unfolding.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer used the developments to press the Democrats' case against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, saying Republicans should hit "pause" on their push toward confirmation.
He expressed concern about Kavanaugh's unwillingness to indict a sitting president, as is Justice Department policy, or subpoena a president to testify. Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing is set for Sept. 4, despite his efforts to postpone it.
"This Republican Congress has done almost nothing to check this president," Schumer said. "We cannot allow the Supreme Court to be captured as well."
Meanwhile, senators of both parties warned that Trump should not consider granting Manafort a pardon. "It would be an enormous mistake and misuse of his power to pardon," said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine.
The House is on summer break for campaign season. The Senate is in session, trying to wrap up a rare August work period that GOP leaders had hoped would be invigorating. Instead, senators at the Capitol are finding themselves facing questions they often have no answers for.
"That's always been an issue: What did the Founders really mean by high crimes and misdemeanors?" said Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis. "Right now it's in the hands of the courts, and we'll see how it plays out."
Some Republican strategists are privately worried about the party's prospects in November because of the scandals. Democrats see a similar opening in what Schumer has called "a cesspool around this president."
"I think we're beyond the tip of the iceberg. We're in the middle of the iceberg right now, given how many people so close to the president are on their way to jail," said Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut.
"My hope is that Republicans don't retreat into a corner. This is a moment where the future of the presidency is at stake. This isn't about politics or point-scoring, so I'll take my time to come to a conclusion. But I hope Republicans will also be willing to look at the facts and come to a non-political conclusion that's best for the country."
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Associated Press writers Dustin Weaver, Kevin Freking and Padmananda Rama contributed to this report.
Copyright 2018 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Hey Trumptard - Quick history lesson
We don't have a king in this country
It was one of the most basic premises upon which our country was founded
Not sure how you could not know that
Oh wait, sorry I forgot you are a certified moron
Maybe this will be a better fit for you and the Criminal in Chief
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He must be a king, he rules your liberal mind.
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He must be a king, he rules your liberal mind.
you're the one that sees him as a king
I see him as a con man, grifter and criminal and of course a fat piece of shit
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sigh....resorting to insults isn't going to save the president from this one..keep melting
Where’s the insult? I think what he’s referring to is that impeachment is not the same as being thrown out of office, which I don’t believe most know. When they hear impeachment they think gone.
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you're the one that sees him as a king
I see him as a con man, grifter and criminal and of course a fat piece of shit
And Killary as a saint & your saviour no doubt..??
A highly Honourable & Trustworthy individual ::) ::) ::)
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I’m sorry, maybe I missed it. What was Trumps crimes again?
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I’m sorry, maybe I missed it. What was Trumps crimes again?
Do you want to start with the ones he either admitted or done in public
that would be multiple counts of obstruction and witness intimidation, campaign finance violations
In private we can only speculate at this point but I would guess conspiring with a foreign agent, money laundering and almost certainly more instances of obstruction
Probably much more
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And Killary as a saint & your saviour no doubt..??
A highly Honourable & Trustworthy individual ::) ::) ::)
only in your delusions
she's a private citizen and I don't have any saints or saviours
that kind of weirdness is more your thing
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only in your delusions
she's a private citizen and I don't have any saints or saviours
that kind of weirdness is more your thing
She is now a private citizen thanks to Donald ;D
She wasn’t when the election was on
Are you going to say now that you didn’t vote for Killary
Are you a Black Man ?
Only your intelligence quotient is on the low side of the Bell Curve.
And they mostly vote democrat.
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you're the one that sees him as a king
I see him as a con man, grifter and criminal and of course a fat piece of shit
I pay almost no attention to Trump, if your liberal media didn't have him on tv or in the news 24/7, I'd forget he was president. You on the other hand, eat, sleep, dream and think about Trump and his massive impact on your life constantly. :-\
TAD much?
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Do you want to start with the ones he either admitted or done in public
that would be multiple counts of obstruction and witness intimidation, campaign finance violations
In private we can only speculate at this point but I would guess conspiring with a foreign agent, money laundering and almost certainly more instances of obstruction
Probably much more
Holy shit😂😂😂
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Trump wasn't a politician and has had some hires that were questionable...but then again he had no real party infrastructure so he's running through what he had to chose from and weed out...
If you need a basketball team but only have midgets to chose from....well, then your center is 4'5"...
When you base your candidacy on the idea you are a genius business man who will hire only the best and surround himself with top notch people.. and then you have this sh^t sandwich we are seeing now, you start to think maybe he WILL have a lot of time to play golf if elected :)
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If the Republican Congress put politics aside, Trump won't be President this time next year. I believe things will come out of the Muller investigation that would be detrimental to Trump going forward. It is highly likely given his statements, lack of transparency and his warped moral compass, that he cheated his butt off like his buddies on his finances, taxes and campaign resources.
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If the Republican Congress put politics aside, Trump won't be President this time next year. I believe things will come out of the Muller investigation that would be detrimental to Trump going forward. It is highly likely given his statements, lack of transparency and his warped moral compass, that he cheated his butt off like his buddies on his finances, taxes and campaign resources.
Wait, you think the right is playing politics and the left isn’t? Simple yes or no and then we’ll go from there
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Wait, you think the right is playing politics and the left isn’t? Simple yes or no and then we’ll go from there
no
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She is now a private citizen thanks to Donald ;D
She wasn’t when the election was on
Are you going to say now that you didn’t vote for Killary
Are you a Black Man ?
Only your intelligence quotient is on the low side of the Bell Curve.
And they mostly vote democrat.
Nope, more like thanks to the electoral college
There is no doubt that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.9 million votes (one of the reasons he was so unpopular on Day 1 of his presidency and just got worse from there)
The fact is that Trump won about 77,000 votes in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan which enabled him to win those electoral votes
That's how you lose the popular vote by almost 3 million and still become POTUS
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated
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Nope, more like thanks to the electoral college
There is no doubt that Trump lost the popular vote by 2.9 million votes (one of the reasons he was so unpopular on Day 1 of his presidency and just got worse from there)
The fact is that Trump won about 77,000 votes in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan which enabled him to win those electoral votes
That's how you lose the popular vote by almost 3 million and still become POTUS
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated
Those are the rules.
If the rules were the popular vote, campaign strategies, media plans, etc would be entirely different and could yield different results.
Boasting or whining about the popular vote is like saying you lost a baseball game but got more hits.
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Those are the rules.
If the rules were the popular vote, campaign strategies, media plans, etc would be entirely different and could yield different results.
Boasting or whining about the popular vote is like saying you lost a baseball game but got more hits.
I'm well aware those are the rules
That's why I said Trump won thanks to the electoral college
Just pointing out the very very narrow path that Trump won the office
If you have any issue with BOASTING then you might want to take it up with Trump who boasts about his victory almost every time he's in front of a microphone and he also WHINES about losing the popular vote
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I'm well aware those are the rules
That's why I said Trump won thanks to the electoral college
Just pointing out the very very narrow path that Trump won the office
If you have any issue with BOASTING then you might want to take it up with Trump who boasts about his victory almost every time he's in front of a microphone and he also WHINES about losing the popular vote
Hey doper - if it was an popular vote election - trump would have run a different campaign. All the excess came from the communist cesspools of NYC and LA.
Hillcunt knew the rules and still lost. Good job backing such an old decrepit bag of shitte.
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He must be a king, he rules your liberal mind.
ROTFLMAO! 8)
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I'm well aware those are the rules
That's why I said Trump won thanks to the electoral college
Just pointing out the very very narrow path that Trump won the office
If you have any issue with BOASTING then you might want to take it up with Trump who boasts about his victory almost every time he's in front of a microphone and he also WHINES about losing the popular vote
But he won due to his campaign strategies within the rules of the EC, not because of the EC....big difference.
As far as your last comment, I generally don't waste my time with the equivalency argument.....both side do tons of shit, so it's useless.
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Hey doper - if it was an popular vote election - trump would have run a different campaign. All the excess came from the communist cesspools of NYC and LA.
Hillcunt knew the rules and still lost. Good job backing such an old decrepit bag of shitte.
doubtful
he's a one hit wonder and he keeps playing the same stupid song every time he's in a front of a microphone
BTW - I'm not the one who brought up the election in this thread
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But he won due to his campaign strategies within the rules of the EC, not because of the EC....big difference.
As far as your last comment, I generally don't waste my time with the equivalency argument.....both side do tons of shit, so it's useless.
he didn't have a fucking clue about the EC (just like he literally doesn't have a fucking clue about almost everything)
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he didn't have a fucking clue about the EC (just like he literally doesn't have a fucking clue about almost everything)
Link?
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Link?
Your brain
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Your brain
Dumb answer.
You can do better.
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Dumb answer.
You can do better.
You give him too much credit.
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You give him too much credit.
Sorry, but if you can't see he is ignorant on a variety of issues pertaining to government and how things are done I can't help you. but on the off chance you really think Trump is the cats meow when it comes to governmental procedures and processes here are some articles you can read to educate yourself about it.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/08/donald-trump-government-215691
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/opinion-blog/articles/2016-03-31/donald-trump-doesnt-understand-the-us-political-system-or-government
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/4/17197266/trump-500-billion-down-tweet
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-dimmest-us-president-ever-personal-mobile-phone-number-security-concerns-a7766271.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/politics/donald-trump-fbi-justice-department/index.html
But yeah.. he has the EC all figured out.. ::)
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Sorry, but if you can't see he is ignorant on a variety of issues pertaining to government and how things are done I can't help you. but on the off chance you really think Trump is the cats meow when it comes to governmental procedures and processes here are some articles you can read to educate yourself about it.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/08/donald-trump-government-215691
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/opinion-blog/articles/2016-03-31/donald-trump-doesnt-understand-the-us-political-system-or-government
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/4/17197266/trump-500-billion-down-tweet
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-dimmest-us-president-ever-personal-mobile-phone-number-security-concerns-a7766271.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/politics/donald-trump-fbi-justice-department/index.html
But yeah.. he has the EC all figured out.. ::)
He's not a lifelong politician like your hero Killary was, there is a learning curve and you just need to accept the fact that within the next 6 years or so, he'll figure it all out. :)
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He's not a lifelong politician like your hero Killary was, there is a learning curve and you just need to accept the fact that within the next 6 years or so, he'll figure it all out. :)
Ha - Was going to post the same about him Not Being A Career Politician
And a Bloody Good Job He’s Doing.
There should be no career politicians - Max of say 12yrs for any political office / position
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He's not a lifelong politician like your hero Killary was, there is a learning curve and you just need to accept the fact that within the next 6 years or so, he'll figure it all out. :)
wow.. you brought up an angle I didn't consider. I'm a little embarrassed about my expectations of a President looking at it from this view.
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wow.. you brought up an angle I didn't consider. I'm a little embarrassed about my expectations of a President looking at it from this view.
Your sarcasm is duly noted, considered and scoffed at.
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Your sarcasm is duly noted, considered and scoffed at.
what level scoffing? it's important to me
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what level scoffing? it's important to me
Very slight, hardly audible.
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Very slight, hardly audible.
yes! score!