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Title: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Princess L on September 05, 2018, 09:51:53 AM
https://abc7.com/education/ca-lawmakers-approve-bill-to-push-back-school-start-times/4135202/

Monday, September 03, 2018 07:45AM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (KABC) --
California students could soon start school later. State lawmakers approved a bill requiring middle and high schools to start no earlier than 8:30 a.m.

The proposal was shot down last year by school boards and teachers.

Supporters said later start times improve health and help offset sleep deprivation in teens.

The measure passed narrowly in both chambers following a debate that did not adhere to party lines.

"This is the single most cost-effective thing we can do to improve high school graduation rates," Assemblyman Jay Obernolte, R-Hesperia, said.

If Gov. Jerry Brown signs the bill, schools will have about three years to comply.

Currently, more than 80 percent of schools start before 8:30 a.m. Rural schools would be exempt from the mandate.
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 05, 2018, 10:39:22 AM
This is completely absurd. The sleep depravity in almost all cases is due to late night cell phone usage, texting, social media and within the last year, Fortnite not to mention gaming in general. Parents need to limit the use of phones with their kids and in most cases, take them away in the evenings until morning.

Even my school weight room and office, I have a basket specifically for phones. The second they walk, the phones are in the basket. It's a HUGE distraction.
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 05, 2018, 12:00:21 PM
https://abc7.com/education/ca-lawmakers-approve-bill-to-push-back-school-start-times/4135202/

Monday, September 03, 2018 07:45AM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (KABC) --
California students could soon start school later. State lawmakers approved a bill requiring middle and high schools to start no earlier than 8:30 a.m.

The proposal was shot down last year by school boards and teachers.

Supporters said later start times improve health and help offset sleep deprivation in teens.

The measure passed narrowly in both chambers following a debate that did not adhere to party lines.

"This is the single most cost-effective thing we can do to improve high school graduation rates," Assemblyman Jay Obernolte, R-Hesperia, said.

If Gov. Jerry Brown signs the bill, schools will have about three years to comply.

Currently, more than 80 percent of schools start before 8:30 a.m. Rural schools would be exempt from the mandate.

Why do you think this is "idiocy"?

There have been studies showing that students learn better when they start school a bit later.

I assume you must be aware of this so what's the reason why you disagree ?

http://www.kappanonline.org/later-start-time-for-teens/
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 05, 2018, 01:22:27 PM
Why do you think this is "idiocy"?

There have been studies showing that students learn better when they start school a bit later.

I assume you must be aware of this so what's the reason why you disagree ?

http://www.kappanonline.org/later-start-time-for-teens/

Horseshit. I just gave you the reasons. More out of touch liberals
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Princess L on September 05, 2018, 02:17:18 PM
This is completely absurd. The sleep depravity in almost all cases is due to late night cell phone usage, texting, social media and within the last year, Fortnite not to mention gaming in general. Parents need to limit the use of phones with their kids and in most cases, take them away in the evenings until morning.

Even my school weight room and office, I have a basket specifically for phones. The second they walk, the phones are in the basket. It's a HUGE distraction.

^
This
Not to mention all the other unintended consequences like adding after school busing to already over-crowded late afternoon traffic congestion, pushing back after school activities...

It's unrealistic to think this will give kids an additional hour to sleep  ::)  It comes down to parenting and discipline.


Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: polychronopolous on September 05, 2018, 02:18:50 PM
This is completely absurd. The sleep depravity in almost all cases is due to late night cell phone usage, texting, social media and within the last year, Fortnite not to mention gaming in general. Parents need to limit the use of phones with their kids and in most cases, take them away in the evenings until morning.

Even my school weight room and office, I have a basket specifically for phones. The second they walk, the phones are in the basket. It's a HUGE distraction.


You got that right Joe.
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 05, 2018, 03:20:26 PM
^
This
Not to mention all the other unintended consequences like adding after school busing to already over-crowded late afternoon traffic congestion, pushing back after school activities...

It's unrealistic to think this will give kids an additional hour to sleep  ::)  It comes down to parenting and discipline.



Horseshit. I just gave you the reasons. More out of touch liberals

maybe you two well informed conservatives could actually try READING the information I posted

start with this little snip

Quote
What we know about human development and, most recently, about the maturation of the teenage brain lends credence to the fact that “it’s a matter of biology, not choice” that teenagers are unable to fall asleep before about 10:45 p.m. and that their brains remain in sleep mode until about 8 a.m. This delay in the circadian rhythms for teenagers is directly related to hormonal changes during puberty. Most teens experience this so-called sleep phase shift only during adolescence; the shift will disappear as teens enter their 20s.

Teens need about 9.25 hours of sleep each night, a difficult amount to obtain when the brain doesn’t enter sleep mode until about 10:45 p.m. and when students must awaken early for a school day that begins before 8:30 a.m. Medical research has shown dramatic negative effects of sleep deprivation, especially in people who are chronically sleep-deprived. Depression, obesity, substance use and abuse, and increased car crashes are just some of the serious consequences. From the early 1990s to now, the medical research findings about the sleep needs of teens became a significant body of knowledge (Carskadon, Acebo, & Jenni, 2004; Jenni, Achermann, & Carskadon, 2005).



BTW - the study of circadian rhythms in adults in terms of long term health are recent and very interesting science

I recently read this book by one of the main researcher in the US

I know right wingers aren't big on reading and learning and things like that.  Much better to go off gut level reactions and shit that you just imagine to be true

https://www.amazon.com/Circadian-Code-Supercharge-Transform-Midnight/dp/163565243X
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Dos Equis on September 05, 2018, 04:27:53 PM
https://abc7.com/education/ca-lawmakers-approve-bill-to-push-back-school-start-times/4135202/

Monday, September 03, 2018 07:45AM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (KABC) --
California students could soon start school later. State lawmakers approved a bill requiring middle and high schools to start no earlier than 8:30 a.m.

The proposal was shot down last year by school boards and teachers.

Supporters said later start times improve health and help offset sleep deprivation in teens.

The measure passed narrowly in both chambers following a debate that did not adhere to party lines.

"This is the single most cost-effective thing we can do to improve high school graduation rates," Assemblyman Jay Obernolte, R-Hesperia, said.

If Gov. Jerry Brown signs the bill, schools will have about three years to comply.

Currently, more than 80 percent of schools start before 8:30 a.m. Rural schools would be exempt from the mandate.

Brought to you by the people who banned straws and want to force restaurants to make milk and water "default" options for parents with kids. 
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 05, 2018, 04:40:24 PM
maybe you two well informed conservatives could actually try READING the information I posted

start with this little snip

BTW - the study of circadian rhythms in adults in terms of long term health are recent and very interesting science

I recently read this book by one of the main researcher in the US

I know right wingers aren't big on reading and learning and things like that.  Much better to go off gut level reactions and shit that you just imagine to be true

https://www.amazon.com/Circadian-Code-Supercharge-Transform-Midnight/dp/163565243X

Again, Horseshit
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Conservative Coach on September 05, 2018, 05:56:50 PM
nobody cares. sorry not thread worthy
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: chaos on September 05, 2018, 07:01:39 PM
maybe you two well informed conservatives could actually try READING the information I posted

start with this little snip

BTW - the study of circadian rhythms in adults in terms of long term health are recent and very interesting science

I recently read this book by one of the main researcher in the US

I know right wingers aren't big on reading and learning and things like that.  Much better to go off gut level reactions and shit that you just imagine to be true

https://www.amazon.com/Circadian-Code-Supercharge-Transform-Midnight/dp/163565243X
LMFAO!! Nobody gets this kind of sleep except infants and the unemployed.
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: polychronopolous on September 06, 2018, 06:46:50 AM
LMFAO!! Nobody gets this kind of sleep except infants and the unemployed.

 :D
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2018, 10:26:02 AM
Again, Horseshit

well you're a horse's ass so I guess that would make you an expert on horseshit

I'll keep that brilliant argument in mind whenever you make any claim to know anything about training

it's all simply horseshit



Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2018, 10:31:23 AM
LMFAO!! Nobody gets this kind of sleep except infants and the unemployed.

lol  :)
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2018, 10:58:19 AM
LOL - not one single right wing dipshit on this board can address the science or show something that refutes it

Dunning Kruger effect much ?
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: chaos on September 06, 2018, 07:00:18 PM
LOL - not one single right wing dipshit on this board can address the science or show something that refutes it

Dunning Kruger effect much ?
What's to refute? Science says smoking and drinking are bad for you, tobacco and alcohol are multibillion dollars industries. Oh the science!!!
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2018, 07:02:45 PM
What's to refute? Science says smoking and drinking are bad for you, tobacco and alcohol are multibillion dollars industries. Oh the science!!!

So you don't dispute the smoking and drinking are bad for you (aka "the science")?
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: chaos on September 06, 2018, 07:08:09 PM
So you don't dispute the smoking and drinking are bad for you (aka "the science")?
Who disputes that ???
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2018, 07:09:37 PM
Who disputes that ???

It's Horseshit
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: chaos on September 06, 2018, 07:14:51 PM
It's Horseshit
I haven't read any studies on horseshit. Is that for muscle building?
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Dos Equis on September 06, 2018, 07:15:57 PM
I haven't read any studies on horseshit. Is that for muscle building?

 :D
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 06, 2018, 07:23:38 PM
I haven't read any studies on horseshit. Is that for muscle building?

studies are horseshit too

ask our phony "coach"

he knows all about it
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: The Scott on September 06, 2018, 08:59:01 PM
LOL - not one single right wing dipshit on this board can address the science or show something that refutes it

Dunning Kruger effect much ?

*SNICKER*

Talk about the pot calling the kettle Hebroe... ;D ;D

In somewhat related sensitiveness, I think Sacramento needs to kowtow toward inclusiveness and change the state capitol's name from the eeevile Christian based "Sacremento" to one more in touch with their true selves.  Meccamento.  Or maybe Pedomento?  How about Skinitbackamento?

Taught you another lesson, eh kiddo?  I bet your ego aches like your puckered dirtstar for an uncut muslime kabob...
 

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Yes.
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 07, 2018, 10:26:12 AM
*SNICKER*

Talk about the pot calling the kettle Hebroe... ;D ;D

In somewhat related sensitiveness, I think Sacramento needs to kowtow toward inclusiveness and change the state capitol's name from the eeevile Christian based "Sacremento" to one more in touch with their true selves.  Meccamento.  Or maybe Pedomento?  How about Skinitbackamento?

Taught you another lesson, eh kiddo?  I bet your ego aches like your puckered dirtstar for an uncut muslime kabob...
 

(https://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/360/1362599_02bcdea730.jpg)
Yes.

LOL - more jibberish from the angry angry atheist

Hey, in the midst of your Tourettes like tantrum I want to congratulate on you the amazing restraint you displayed in not mentioning my mother in your rant.  I'm sure that took a lot of effort on your part.   kudos on the rare display of self discipline.
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: The Scott on September 07, 2018, 05:02:20 PM
LOL - more jibberish from the angry angry atheist

Hey, in the midst of your Tourettes like tantrum I want to congratulate on you the amazing restraint you displayed in not mentioning my mother in your rant.  I'm sure that took a lot of effort on your part.   kudos on the rare display of self discipline.

Tourette's?  Tourettes's is for pussies. My talent for belittle such as you was forged long before you were whelped. 

Give it up, little manlette.  You are ill equipped to deal with someone with a barely average IQ like me.  If you play the Cucktard Card, expect to be Trumped.  ;D  I am no longer a follower of the Nazarene so expect to experience controlled burning, aka back burning.  This will result in a scorched ego for such as you.
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 07, 2018, 05:17:03 PM
Tourette's?  Tourettes's is for pussies. My talent for belittle such as you was forged long before you were whelped. 

Give it up, little manlette.  You are ill equipped to deal with someone with a barely average IQ like me.  If you play the Cucktard Card, expect to be Trumped.  ;D  I am no longer a follower of the Nazarene so expect to experience controlled burning, aka back burning.  This will result in a scorched ego for such as you.

Good lord you're delusional

Don't worry, my ego is immune from the opinions of dumbfounded dipshits like you.

We all know you're no longer a fundee.  For some reason you feel the need to repeatedly share that fact but when asked why you whine like a bitch and make excuses. 

Why don't you tell us how Jesus has done you wrong.

If nothing else it would be good for a laugh or two

 
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: The Scott on September 07, 2018, 05:40:23 PM
Good lord you're delusional

Don't worry, my ego is immune from the opinions of dumbfounded dipshits like you.

We all know you're no longer a fundee.  For some reason you feel the need to repeatedly share that fact but when asked why you whine like a bitch and make excuses. 

Why don't you tell us how Jesus has done you wrong.

If nothing else it would be good for a laugh or two

 

LOL!  You pathetic loner.   Bitch. Yeah...You are a bit of female pooch but I suspect it's because you catch more often than pitch, even if the other person is a real female.   I bet you weren't even chosen last for any team during P.E.    You fear the unknown and while that's all fine and dandy, you're such a whole ass that you will never learn how to make a real friend.  In the real world I would speak exactly the same to you.  I could give a Wiggs (i.e., a big turd) about your imitation of a life and how you're such a contrite boy that you should be on a poster saying, "Cucktardism means not only always having to say your sorry, but also settling for filthy fiftieths.


You and the rest of the assholists here are getting exactly what you deserve. Curl up in your fecal position and pray there's no Dung Beetles around to carry you off.  While I have no doubt you could punch your way out of a paper bag, I'd wager you'd rather use them as socks in a public restroom...
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 07, 2018, 06:27:19 PM
LOL!  You pathetic loner.   Bitch. Yeah...You are a bit of female pooch but I suspect it's because you catch more often than pitch, even if the other person is a real female.   I bet you weren't even chosen last for any team during P.E.    You fear the unknown and while that's all fine and dandy, you're such a whole ass that you will never learn how to make a real friend.  In the real world I would speak exactly the same to you.  I could give a Wiggs (i.e., a big turd) about your imitation of a life and how you're such a contrite boy that you should be on a poster saying, "Cucktardism means not only always having to say your sorry, but also settling for filthy fiftieths.


You and the rest of the assholists here are getting exactly what you deserve. Curl up in your fecal position and pray there's no Dung Beetles around to carry you off.  While I have no doubt you could punch your way out of a paper bag, I'd wager you'd rather use them as socks in a public restroom...


LOL  - two full paragraphs doing nothing but attacking me.

We're you this angry when you still believed in Jesus

Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 07, 2018, 07:33:42 PM
Who needs 9 hours of sleep? I watched Letterman until 1am and woke up at 6am the whole time I was in junior high and high school.
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: The Scott on September 08, 2018, 10:58:09 AM

LOL  - two full paragraphs doing nothing but attacking me.

We're you this angry when you still believed in Jesus



You, little one, have a wonderful economy with words.  I await your next syllable with great anticipation.  I am so happy for your sake that the body's cardiovascular systems are involuntary, elsewise you wouldn't last a minute or so.  ;D
Title: Re: More idiocy out of Sacramento
Post by: Straw Man on September 08, 2018, 11:07:03 AM
You, little one, have a wonderful economy with words.  I await your next syllable with great anticipation.  I am so happy for your sake that the body's cardiovascular systems are involuntary, elsewise you wouldn't last a minute or so.  ;D

LOL

I thought you didn't care you weepy old kunt

why won't you tell us what Jesus did to you to make you so angry?