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Title: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 20, 2018, 11:09:03 PM
who's your pick?

AJ the heavy favourite

younger, 7 inch reach and 4 inch height and prob 20pound weight advantage

Povetkin is 38

my pick, Povetkin by KO
in a HUGE upset

POvetkin knows this is his last big chance and will go all out

AJ is too mechanical and reminds be of a bigger , faster frank Bruno but his defense and head movement is knot the best.

If Povetkin can get inside AJ's jab and reach and nails AJ he can KO him as AJ's chin is not cast iron.

Pvetkin got a solid chin- Klitchko has him down many times but couldnt KO him
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Conker on September 21, 2018, 12:08:58 AM
povetkin is a live opponent but joshua shouldn't have too many problems with him. povetkin in his prime never won a round against klitscho. so at 39 i can't see how he's going to seriously trouble joshua, who outpointed klitscho up to the point he knocked him out.

povetkin always has a punchers chance but nothing more against aj.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: G_Thang on September 21, 2018, 02:38:25 AM
who's your pick?

AJ the heavy favourite

younger, 7 inch reach and 4 inch height and prob 20pound weight advantage

Povetkin is 38

my pick, Povetkin by KO
in a HUGE upset

POvetkin knows this is his last big chance and will go all out

AJ is too mechanical and reminds be of a bigger , faster frank Bruno but his defense and head movement is knot the best.

If Povetkin can get inside AJ's jab and reach and nails AJ he can KO him as AJ's chin is not cast iron.

Pvetkin got a solid chin- Klitchko has him down many times but couldnt KO him

Povetkin fights a lot like Takem, up on your chest with hooks.  I'm not sure Joshua has a Wlad type jab to control him, assuming he will wrestle Povetkin like Wlad and stop him late.





Start at 3:50  8)
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: SuperTed on September 21, 2018, 02:54:51 AM
AJ should take it by late stoppage. Povetkin is very tough and solid, he'll be gallant but fall short. Maybe a younger version could have pulled it off.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Desolate on September 21, 2018, 03:19:09 AM
What time is this thing if you are on the east coast of the U.S.? ???
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Conker on September 21, 2018, 06:35:46 AM
Povetkin fights a lot like Takem, up on your chest with hooks.  I'm not sure Joshua has a Wlad type jab to control him, assuming he will wrestle Povetkin like Wlad and stop him late.





Start at 3:50  8)

joshua has a very good jab , probably better than klitscho's. before the fight caught fire, joshua won every one of the first 4 rounds against wlad behind his jab.

AJ is technically way better than he's currently given credit for.  i could see him being as dominant in the division as wlad was maybe even more so.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Desolate on September 22, 2018, 01:31:45 PM
Anyone got links to this thing?

It should be starting soon.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Rascal full on September 22, 2018, 01:44:04 PM
Eddie Hearn will be more worried than Joshua's mother! His main man takes a heavy loss and that's his cash cow down the swanney as we say in these parts ('up in smoke' for my friends from around the world).

I expect a 12 round shut out for AJ very similar to his win over Joseph Parker.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Desolate on September 22, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
Links?
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Desolate on September 22, 2018, 02:51:11 PM
http://neosportek7.blogspot.com/p/boxing-2.html (http://neosportek7.blogspot.com/p/boxing-2.html)

UPDATE

Alex Povetkin was winning early. First two rounds easily.

Joshua's nose was bleeding.

But Joshua turned it around in the fourth.

In the seventh, Joshua put him down. Alex didn't know where he was.

The referee let it go, but a few seconds later, Joshua landed again with hard shots and the referee stopped it as Povetkin fell back and away.

Joshua stops Povetkin in seventh round. Technically, a TKO victory.

A lot better that the Klitschko fight.

Prince Naseem Hamed was there. Showed him in the crowd.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Conker on September 22, 2018, 03:06:26 PM
povetkin caused more problems for aj than i expected , he really came to have a go. aj found it very difficult to control the fight as he usually does.
i believe aj will have a much easier time with wilder and even fury. povetkin's speed and style caused problems. but the power from aj to finish it was phenomenal. klitscho in his prime never managed to do that to that povetkin.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: illuminati on September 22, 2018, 03:26:48 PM
Povetkin is 39
Nearly 2stones lighter
And around 4 inch shorter
With less reach
In a big ring fighting in England - How many other advantages does Joshua need.

How do you think Joshua would fair in similar conditions in a fight  ::)
After the first 3 rounds it was only going to end one way

Tyson Fury if he’s near his best & Mentally Stable will tie up & wear down Joshua
As He’s bigger & heavier.
Though being at his best & Mentally stable are the deciding factors.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Ssxa on September 22, 2018, 03:31:34 PM
Povetkin gave it a serious go. I had it 3 rounds a piece going into the 7th. He got caught and took some bombs from AJ. No shame in that. Povetkin is a few years past his best at this point, but it was a good test for AJ.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Conker on September 22, 2018, 03:36:41 PM
Povetkin is 39
Nearly 2stones lighter
And around 4 inch shorter
With less reach
In a big ring fighting in England - How many other advantages does Joshua need.

How do you think Joshua would fair in similar conditions in a fight  ::)
After the first 3 rounds it was only going to end one way

Tyson Fury if he’s near his best & Mentally Stable will tie up & wear down Joshua
As He’s bigger & heavier.
Though being at his best & Mentally stable are the deciding factors.


being 4 inches shorter and lighter was actually POVETKIN's major advantage in the fight. aj found it difficult to control the fight with his jab against a little guy with the speed of povetkin , he's much more comfortable with bigger slower fighters.

fury can beat aj but aj is the favourite. aj has the tools to win on points or knock him out. fury can only win on points. i predict aj knocking him out. would love to see the fight though.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Desolate on September 22, 2018, 03:40:19 PM
Povetkin gave it a serious go. I had it 3 rounds a piece going into the 7th.

I did too.

Alex just began to slow down... tire.

He could no longer get inside the reach. Joshua started to land the jab easier.

That first knockdown was weird.

It's like Alex couldn't get his arm to find the rope to get up and steady himself.

I give the referee credit for letting it go on.

They stop fights too soon nowadays.

Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Desolate on September 22, 2018, 03:42:40 PM
How do you think Joshua would fair in similar conditions in a fight  ::)
After the first 3 rounds it was only going to end one way

Tyson Fury if he’s near his best & Mentally Stable will tie up & wear down Joshua
As He’s bigger & heavier.
Though being at his best & Mentally stable are the deciding factors.

fury can beat aj but aj is the favourite. aj has the tools to win on points or knock him out. fury can only win on points. i predict aj knocking him out. would love to see the fight though.

Whoever wins, Joshua/Fury needs to happen in 2019.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Conker on September 22, 2018, 03:47:07 PM
I did too.

Alex just began to slow down... tire.

He could no longer get inside the reach. Joshua started to land the jab easier.

That first knockdown was weird.

It's like Alex couldn't get his arm to find the rope to get up and steady himself.

I give the referee credit for letting it go on.

They stop fights too soon nowadays.



he couldn't find the rope because his brain was completely scrambled, you could tell from the difficulty he had getting up the fight was over. the left hook before the last straight right (1st knock down) was the punch that ended the fight.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Conker on September 22, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
Whoever wins, Joshua/Fury needs to happen in 2019.

yep i agree. i think wilder is a fraud, not in the same league as either. but he'll always have a puncher's chance.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Randomum on September 22, 2018, 04:02:13 PM
Wilder is just a physically gifted fighter with bombs in both hands (more power, and speed than Joshua). Joshua is athletic and has good power, and his technique is improving. I still see it as pretty even though as even Joshua's technique is not amazing but if I had to bet I'd say Joshua becomes the dominant heavyweight in this era.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: SuperTed on September 23, 2018, 12:42:15 AM
Knew it would be a tough fight. Povetkin has a great pedigree (former Olympic champion) and lots of heart.

Fight was even before the KO but that's what makes AJ so dangerous. His power can finish a fight in an instant.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: MegaTron on September 23, 2018, 12:50:39 AM
Darren Avey would beat all of these cucks....
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Conker on September 23, 2018, 04:01:24 AM
aj was ahead on all the judges' scorecards but povetkin was definitely more dangerous than most expected  . i'd back pov to beat wilder


"Judges had the fight 58-56, 58-56, and 59-55 in favour of the 2012 Olympic gold medallist."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7324834/anthony-johsua-alexander-povetkin-ahead-on-scorecards/
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Darren Avey on September 23, 2018, 06:52:59 AM
AJ is keeping the belts warm umtil…………..

Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: illuminati on September 23, 2018, 03:01:29 PM
AJ is keeping the belts warm umtil…………..



Is he out of Shootfighters
And with Them Scary Hardman Tats I’m surprised he’s not already World Champion.    ;D
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 23, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
So Povetikin didn't pull off the upset but gave it a really good try by the sounds of reports

AJ better fight Wilder before someone upsets AJ and he loses a  $50 million plus payday for a WIlder fight

AJ is ducking Wilder

Wilder has improved with each outing, his KO of Stiverne in the rematch shows he's more skilful.
WIlder has also fought a much better quality of opponent than AJ

sure AJ is techinically better but he wont have all the usual physical advantages like the height, weight and reach against Wilder

WIlder will KO AJ
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: old-school-lifter on September 23, 2018, 07:43:15 PM
just watched the fight

AJ really needs to improve his Defense

he holds his Left hand way too low and is wide open for a right hand counter over his jab- povetkin caught him once or twice like that,
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: SuperTed on September 24, 2018, 05:02:10 AM
WIlder has also fought a much better quality of opponent than AJ

How? Stiverne, Ortiz and Arreola are the only wins on his record that can be regarded as good ones. The rest is littered with bums or ageing journeymen.
AJ has defeated a legend (albeit a faded one) in Wlad, unbeaten prospects like Parker and Whyte. He's now defeated a former champion and top contender in Povetkin.
Wilder has also been a pro for 4 more years then AJ has. Wilder spent the first several years of his pro career just padding up his record.
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: G_Thang on September 24, 2018, 05:16:40 AM
So Povetikin didn't pull off the upset but gave it a really good try by the sounds of reports

AJ better fight Wilder before someone upsets AJ and he loses a  $50 million plus payday for a WIlder fight

AJ is ducking Wilder

Wilder has improved with each outing, his KO of Stiverne in the rematch shows he's more skilful.
WIlder has also fought a much better quality of opponent than AJ

sure AJ is techinically better but he wont have all the usual physical advantages like the height, weight and reach against Wilder

WIlder will KO AJ

You do realize he changed his stance up specifically for the Povetkin fight.  Review Parker and Takem, fighters similar to Povetkin in height. He tends to come forward with a high guard but Povetkin is a magnificent hooker.  Hence it was more movement, jabbing to the body and taking steam off of Povetkin's punches and wearing him down late
.  
The 50 million you guys keep crying about was Fish Eyes aka Frank Warren (which he confirmed several weeks ago), not Al Haymon.  AJ has an exclusive network deal.  Warren knows this but also knows the dumb rock boxing fans (so says Bob Arum) are idiots.

Lastly, Warren confirmed that Wilder and Fury have been negotiating since June. That means Wilder and Haymon were bum hunting an unprepared Fury (out of boxing for almost 3 yrs b/c of peds, drugs, and alcohol and just returned vs two BUMS!) vs fighting Joshua this yr.

Also, take into account. Joshua offered Fury a similar deal to Ward/Kovalev which would prepare him for a big UK battle, but Fury, like Khan (afraid of Kell Brook), doesn't want to get KO'ed in front of 100k people in Wembley, so he'll let Wider put him in a coma for money like Canelo did to Khan.

Hence, Fury and Khan are made from the same cloth.       
Title: Re: Anthony Joshua v Alex Povetkin
Post by: Conker on September 24, 2018, 05:58:09 AM
How? Stiverne, Ortiz and Arreola are the only wins on his record that can be regarded as good ones. The rest is littered with bums or ageing journeymen.
AJ has defeated a legend (albeit a faded one) in Wlad, unbeaten prospects like Parker and Whyte. He's now defeated a former champion and top contender in Povetkin.
Wilder has also been a pro for 4 more years then AJ has. Wilder spent the first several years of his pro career just padding up his record.

the guy is obviously trolling to say wilder has fought better opponents than aj. stiverne and arreola are bums, the only decent fighter wilder has fought in 40 fights is ortiz and he struggled like fk against him for 10 rounds. and ortiz is only chisora/whyte level.

it's laughable wilder trying to say aj is ducking him when you look at their respective records. but boxing is about money, joshua is taking on all comers and filling out 90,000 seater stadiums and getting £10-20 million a fight , while wilder is fighting bums in alabama and getting a 10th of that.

so for the fight to happen wilder has to be realistic and accept that AJ is by far the main attraction and the purses need to reflect that.