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Pj did instagram live feed calling out Aron, basically spilling the beans that his best friend betrayed him.
Anyone have any scoop on this?
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Never get into a business with friends or family, always ends up messy.
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I don't follow PJ anymore nor do I pay attention to BSL. But I feel like BSL is going down the drain and PJ is panicing and wants to lay blame on anyone but himself. He's the president and CEO of BSL, he's been in that position for a long time (2 years? more?). Let's say Aaron screwed him before he left BSL and created RedCon1. Lets say that even months on Aaron kept screwing BSL by stealing customers or whatever PJ claims (that's what he claimed when RedCon1 came out, idk what he's claiming now). A good businessman adapts and overcomes. He offers the market something better, whether its price, product, or diversification. PJ is incapable of doing that so he just bitches and airs dirty laundry. PJ owes all his success to Aaron. Without Singerman, PJ would be a broke, fat has-been selling his NPC trophies and soiled posing thongs to make ends meat. He should be kissing Aaron's ass and thanking him for letting him tag along and learn some shit about business. Even if he can't use that knowledge to any degree of success.
Inb4 "Hi Aaron"
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"Hi Aaron"
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"Hi Aaron"
:D ;D
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WannaBePro is right.
BSL success was based on the pro-hormone market, that dried up, and instead of finding a new product to fleece the rubes with, he sat around and played house with Genova. He can't blame Slingerman for that.
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I mentioned this a couple years ago.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=611075.50
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Just watched it on CNN! Brutal.
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That video is sad.
If want PJ said is true and Redcon stole intellectual property and product formulas he should have an easy case in shutting Redcon down. And that's not even factoring in the alleged embezzlement by Aaron, which I'm sure is all documented.
PJ why didn't you take legal action right away?
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If true, that's rough.
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That video is sad.
If want PJ said is true and Redcon stole intellectual property and product formulas he should have an easy case in shutting Redcon down. And that's not even factoring in the alleged embezzlement by Aaron, which I'm sure is all documented.
PJ why didn't you take legal action right away?
Because he's clearly lying. Even his own lawyer realized he was representing the losing side and sided with Aaron instead.
I have a hard time believing that PJ and the other partner didn't go after Aaron legally after he stole thousands of dollars from the company AND stole IP/customers. Even if PJ chalked it up to "I thought we were friends, that's why I didn't sue," I'm sure the other partner would have had no problem suing. The reason they didn't sue is because they have no case. Aaron was pushed out of the company, and instead of going on IG live and bitching about it to his "fans," he went out and started a new company that surpasses BSL by a country mile. I'm in Canada and I see RedCon1 stuff everywhere up here. I have yet to see a single bottle of BSL on a store shelf.
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sounds like a punk bitch whining cuz he got got
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Vince, when I first stated what PJ is saying now 2 years ago, you just rolled your eyes.
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Vince, when I first stated what PJ is saying now 2 years ago, you just rolled your eyes.
Because I was covering for Aaron.
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Vince, when I first stated what PJ is saying now 2 years ago, you just rolled your eyes.
That's because Aaron and Melvin were in cahoots.
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Didn't they both work for IronMag, to get on the inside, use that info for their own purposes (suppliers, biz contacts, etc) to branch out on their own ?
Robert D. who posts here (IML owner) would know. I don't remember him crying in public about it.
(If it went down like that). Vince would also know if true...
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Because I was covering for Aaron.
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You knowingly committed and cover up online fraud as an internet entrepreneur?
Vince come on.
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You knowingly committed and cover up online fraud as an internet entrepreneur?
Vince come on.
What fraud??? Cant start a new venture with drama
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Who cares? They both sell useless products. Joe Weider, another snake oil salesman, had his feuds too back in the day.
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Hahahahahahaha
Pj is and always has been one of the stupidest people in the industry
He’s a total train wreck
Keep your worthless free samples
Burn in Hell pj!
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ive never seen or used blackstone or redcon products....
are they pretty well run profitable businesses?
getting wealthy is only part of the game...maintaining it is even harder.
both will spend thousands in lawyer fees and waste time. this civil lawsuit will go nowhere. just get tied up in ligation and the attorneys win
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PJ is a fat, useless turd with a lisp.
Always has been and always will be.
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PJ is a fat, useless turd with a lisp.
Always has been and always will be.
Fuck you, you jealous peice of shit.
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Fuck you, you jealous peice of shit.
no fuck you druggie
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Lets remember PJ and Aaron during better, fonder days.
(https://cdn.newswire.com/files/x/a2/29/612008c2baf3c8fcffe97f186e28.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/wg8XhcfBWIaNQN4MqDqdfCt86e4Ivs_hS5Rhnf80xrlY2pGF2Pje3plxC-kbNC6-GmnQuTx6UFV3993iFqu3FFajE4AOVDA=w530-h298-n)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=428366.0;attach=472850;image)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTnFoyTzjy2j_WpHPm0UVxT7LsYhOPjJaiDQTgUPTDi9-5iUKZxg)
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Fuck you, you jealous peice of shit.
PJ, telling people they are jealous of you is an attack worthy of a 10-year-old.
Believe it or not, there are many people on getbig who have good careers, a family, friends, etc.
Just because someone says something negative about you, it doesn't necessarily mean they are jealous of you. You have brought into the whole hype of "haters are just people who are jealous." Perhaps, but sometimes the truth is also the truth.
I highly doubt many getbiggers are actually jealous of you and probably do not think about you once they sign off of getbig.
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All gene wanted was a few measly samples.
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Lets remember PJ and Aaron during better, fonder days.
(https://cdn.newswire.com/files/x/a2/29/612008c2baf3c8fcffe97f186e28.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/wg8XhcfBWIaNQN4MqDqdfCt86e4Ivs_hS5Rhnf80xrlY2pGF2Pje3plxC-kbNC6-GmnQuTx6UFV3993iFqu3FFajE4AOVDA=w530-h298-n)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=428366.0;attach=472850;image)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTnFoyTzjy2j_WpHPm0UVxT7LsYhOPjJaiDQTgUPTDi9-5iUKZxg)
(https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/george-Dave-morph.jpg)
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PJ, telling people they are jealous of you is an attack worthy of a 10-year-old.
Believe it or not, there are many people on getbig who have good careers, a family, friends, etc.
Just because someone says something negative about you, it doesn't necessarily mean they are jealous of you. You have brought into the whole hype of "haters are just people who are jealous." Perhaps, but sometimes the truth is also the truth.
I highly doubt many getbiggers are actually jealous of you and probably do not think about you once they sign off of getbig.
You’re definitely not one of them lol. On here way too much starting stupid threads to enjoy life, friends, or a career.
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both will spend thousands in lawyer fees and waste time. this civil lawsuit will go nowhere. just get tied up in ligation and the attorneys win
This is true. It will come down to both spending tens of thousands of dollars on lawyer fees and then reaching a settlement simply so they don't have to pay lawyers any more. Neither will walk away happy. Neither will come out ahead or have the settlement they want.
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You’re definitely not one of them lol. On here way too much starting stupid threads to enjoy life, friends, or a career.
Sears and roebuck has not been the same since sf1900 left. They are begging him to come back.
I think it's safe to say he's doing pretty well.
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Sears and roebuck has not been the same since sf1900 left. They are begging him to come back.
I think it's safe to say he's doing pretty well.
I work at Auto Zone now.
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I work at Auto Zone now.
Can you get me a new steering wheel?
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Fuck you, you jealous peice of shit.
:o
Are we seeing the return of industry heavy hitters?
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Can you get me a new steering wheel?
Yes, that is not a problem.
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Not a fan of either BUT lets face it, BSL is a shell and Aaron is raking in the dough...........
$9 for a tub of Ice Cream...GTFOH
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Fuck you, you jealous peice of shit.
Hey lispy, nobody here is jealous of anyone that makes their living posing for old homos. (http://www.musclegallery.com/pj_braun/images/pj_05.jpg)
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Fuck you, you jealous peice of shit.
how did your divorce hearing go? Did Evan come to give you support?
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You’re definitely not one of them lol. On here way too much starting stupid threads to enjoy life, friends, or a career.
are you in between conference calls and meetings when u typed that?
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All gene wanted was a few measly samples.
YES
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You’re definitely not one of them lol. On here way too much starting stupid threads to enjoy life, friends, or a career.
Haha. You beat me to it.
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Haha. You beat me to it.
I make quality threads that keeps getbig going. I’m doing a public service.
I work at Auto Zone, hence I do have a career.
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Stealing the exclusive proprietary mix of amino acids and caffeine was definitely a lethal blow. They should have locked that recipe up tighter than Coca-Cola's.
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I`ll take that Z06 off your hands if you ever need it gone PJ (serious).
My Vette needs company!
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Through the good times checking out talent together
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=577313.0;attach=634589;image)
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pjay still has one of the best asses on the planet
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They gave people shit people wanted that worked crossing the line of red tape.
I loved them for it back in the day, a pro hormone was great to add to a test run. Cheap, fast shipping good quality
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be with me brother peejay
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This was from a few months ago, I must have missed it ( was Lincoln shot? ) Could this be Arron's big Red-Con???
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This was from a few months ago, I must have missed it ( was Lincoln shot? ) Could this be Arron's big Red-Con???
Basically helped Aaron on this. By the way, PJ no longer resides at that house. I warned him not to go off the rails.
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What's the deal with PJs company and Singermans Redcon these days?
Who is more profitable?
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Hey Vince,
I know you wouldn’t give up the ghost, but can you shed a bit more insight into this?
J
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nobody cares.
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nobody cares.
I do . . .
J
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It isn't defamation if you can prove it in court. As in documentation, evidence, proof.
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Vince when is the arbitration hearing?
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Basically helped Aaron on this. By the way, PJ no longer resides at that house. I warned him not to go off the rails.
House is for sale at 1.9 million, he paid 1.5 in 2015. Nice profit if it sells for that.
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Basically helped Aaron on this. By the way, PJ no longer resides at that house. I warned him not to go off the rails.
Vince, how did you help him?
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And WHY did Melvin help Aaron and not PJ?
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Vince always favored Aaron over PJ.
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It's probably all true, but PJ is coming across all bitter.
PJ had blackstone after the split and it remained stagnant. Singerman started from scratch again with his companies and has gone on to make fortunes.
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House is for sale at 1.9 million, he paid 1.5 in 2015. Nice profit if it sells for that.
Vince says hes broke bro. No profits to be earned, nothing is as it seems.
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If Aaron did steal PJ should sue him and they both should stay away from each other. Lots of money will be wasted on attorneys.
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Aaron is the brains. Anyone can tell that. I live in Boca and see RedCon stuff everywhere. Never see any blackstone stuff.
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The real question is who the fuck buys this shit???
There cant be that many gullible teenagers out there with extra cash to blow on this crap.
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House is for sale at 1.9 million, he paid 1.5 in 2015. Nice profit if it sells for that.
Divorce....nuff said
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PJ is fucking himself doing this vid in the first place. The fact that he uses the word fagg-it within the first 2 minutes likely won't help him with a FL jury/judge.
Not smart. :P
Typical bb'er drama @ about 7:30. Of course their partnership had to end with a "Jerry McGuire" moment, and only one person following Aaron out the door.
Is there a video on YT somewhere of Aaron looking into this "Eduardo" guy's eyes, and telling him "you complete me"?
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PJ strikes me as the lazier, easier going dude while Singerman seems more like the aggressive, harder-working guy which is why it’s easy to believe Singerman was stealing from the company especially if he felt he was doing all of the work and splitting the money. Also heard some stories from guys who knew Singerman before he even worked for RX about him stealing credit cards.
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WOW.
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PJ strikes me as the lazier, easier going dude while Singerman seems more like the aggressive, harder-working guy which is why it’s easy to believe Singerman was stealing from the company especially if he felt he was doing all of the work and splitting the money. Also heard some stories from guys who knew Singerman before he even worked for RX about him stealing credit cards.
He was a fucking heroin addict. Those people and tweekers will stop at nothing to get their fix....stealing is the first and easiest thing to do. Theft is the first step before giving any other effort or hustle. He just got his shit together sobriety-wise, and kept the good habits he learned while chasing his fix. A leopard can't change it's spots.
PJ is a beaten down puppy barking loudly, and trying to get back up to chase a cheetah cheater....he won't catch up! It's too bad, but sometimes the "bad" guy does win...this is one of those times.
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He was a fucking heroin addict. Those people and tweekers will stop at nothing to get their fix....stealing is the first and easiest thing to do. Theft is the first step before giving any other effort or hustle. He just got his shit together sobriety-wise, and kept the good habits he learned while chasing his fix. A leopard can't change it's spots.
PJ is a beaten down puppy barking loudly, and trying to get back up to chase a cheetah cheater....he won't catch up! It's too bad, but sometimes the "bad" guy does win...this is one of those times.
Bad guys usually win in real life. The Weiders, Ray Kroc, Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Steve Blechman, even Donald Trump stiffing small businessmen left and right.
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I once ordered from BLACKSTONE and remember being on their mailing list.
Still get mails from them from time to time usually in my spam.
Never got a thing from Redcon1. So. Not sure what he’s talking about in regards
to Aaron steaming the customer database.
Funny thing is I often get e-mails from CELESTIAL Bodies or whatever it’s called.
Isn’t that DJ Pong’s ex-wife’s company?
- Block!
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PJ strikes me as the lazier, easier going dude while Singerman seems more like the aggressive, harder-working guy which is why it’s easy to believe Singerman was stealing from the company especially if he felt he was doing all of the work and splitting the money. Also heard some stories from guys who knew Singerman before he even worked for RX about him stealing credit cards.
Singerman is a Jew, he’s def the brains and the smarts while PJ is just another white trash bber
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PJ strikes me as the lazier, easier going dude while Singerman seems more like the aggressive, harder-working guy which is why it’s easy to believe Singerman was stealing from the company especially if he felt he was doing all of the work and splitting the money. Also heard some stories from guys who knew Singerman before he even worked for RX about him stealing credit cards.
good observation
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PJ is fucking himself doing this vid in the first place. The fact that he uses the word fagg-it within the first 2 minutes likely won't help him with a FL jury/judge.
Not smart. :P
Typical bb'er drama @ about 7:30. Of course their partnership had to end with a "Jerry McGuire" moment, and only one person following Aaron out the door.
Is there a video on YT somewhere of Aaron looking into this "Eduardo" guy's eyes, and telling him "you complete me"?
It's arbitration no jury. If PJ and his attorney have the evidence it doesn't matter. If he doesn't well that's another story.
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they are going the herbal life route
http://tieroperator.com/?g=EV4MGDMPBG
smart! so smart! get MLM style out there
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It's arbitration no jury. If PJ and his attorney have the evidence it doesn't matter. If he doesn't well that's another story.
Thanks for enlightening me! I did not know that.
they are going the herbal life route
http://tieroperator.com/?g=EV4MGDMPBG
smart! so smart! get MLM style out there
That's gotta just be a new additional business model.....let people do some of the advertising, stocking, selling, and fulfillment. I know several that do AmWay, and they're better than many ads at a fraction of the cost + they use the shit all the time to advertise to others that they sell it.
Aaron is a hard worker, great marketer, and very good at creating/growing businesses. That being said, I do not like how he portrays his company as being for the military. Some dipshits I've met actually think it's used by the military, and/or endorses RedCon. He's as crooked as they come in this business IMO, and the way he plays on our troops, and his new MLM model are just another one of his Cons....at least the name is 1/2 honest. :-\
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The laws regarding MLM are so confusing and complicated, I think it’s safe to predict that the FTC will be jumping in at some point and shutting them down.
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my point with MLM - it is the an added way to make more revenue....
moral or not, good products not? i dunno but you get some 20s year guys to have a redcon1 attachment they sell for the brand and drink the kool-aid
like herbal life 1st Phorma (something like that)
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my point with MLM - it is the an added way to make more revenue....
moral or not, good products not? i dunno but you get some 20s year guys to have a redcon1 attachment they sell for the brand and drink the kool-aid
like herbal life 1st Phorma (something like that)
My bad....I took your "smart" comments in your post as sarcasm. See my post as I agree 100% and have seen it in action with my own eyes. It's brilliant, as long as he does it on the level!
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My bad....I took your "smart" comments in your post as sarcasm. See my post as I agree 100% and have seen it in action with my own eyes. It's brilliant, as long as he does it on the level!
haha :)
yes it is brilliant from a business sense - get as many people to work for you as possible! they are gonna be 1099 (limited corporate exenes) so have 10000 meatheads and gym bunnies posting your product line and reap the benefits
it is much cheaper by having 1000s of pawns selling your products through different channels than redcon1 paying retail shelf prices or amazon fees.
i look at the average 23 year old gym rat who loves supplements and gym culture... get him some redcon1 t shirts - he sells the products to everyone at his gym or frat house etc.
redcon1 is super efficient with supply chain/cutting cost and boom you grow.
hell - look at the value of Hebral life. it is a publicly traded company!!!
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Thanks for enlightening me! I did not know that.
That's gotta just be a new additional business model.....let people do some of the advertising, stocking, selling, and fulfillment. I know several that do AmWay, and they're better than many ads at a fraction of the cost + they use the shit all the time to advertise to others that they sell it.
Aaron is a hard worker, great marketer, and very good at creating/growing businesses. That being said, I do not like how he portrays his company as being for the military. Some dipshits I've met actually think it's used by the military, and/or endorses RedCon. He's as crooked as they come in this business IMO, and the way he plays on our troops, and his new MLM model are just another one of his Cons....at least the name is 1/2 honest. :-\
As a vet I don't like it either and I know some younger combat vets that have bought into this and are marketing for this conman on IG. He specifically goes after younger vets for tier operators.
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haha :)
yes it is brilliant from a business sense - get as many people to work for you as possible! they are gonna be 1099 (limited corporate exenes) so have 10000 meatheads and gym bunnies posting your product line and reap the benefits
it is much cheaper by having 1000s of pawns selling your products through different channels than redcon1 paying retail shelf prices or amazon fees.
i look at the average 23 year old gym rat who loves supplements and gym culture... get him some redcon1 t shirts - he sells the products to everyone at his gym or frat house etc.
redcon1 is super efficient with supply chain/cutting cost and boom you grow.
hell - look at the value of Hebral life. it is a publicly traded company!!!
Redcon1 is just what it tells you it is, Red”CON” is a fucken con job. Any company that tries to convince you a birthday cake flavor bar has ANY value in health and fitness thinks customers are suckers. They treat you like fools so Arrogant Singerman can fly private and brag about the size of his hotel room. He treats you like suckers.
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Supplements are a fucking waste of money.
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As a vet I don't like it either and I know some younger combat vets that have bought into this and are marketing for this conman on IG. He specifically goes after younger vets for tier operators.
"operators" like they are in deltaforce and use the term tier
Aaron is smart since there is a fool born every minute
again.. he is smart in the sense he plays of sheep and weakness to gain market share - it is genius -
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"operators" like they are in deltaforce and use the term tier
Aaron is smart since there is a fool born every minute
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Exactly why do we conclude Arrogant is smart? Have you ever seen him interviewed? He uses words out of context and has this "look at me" attitude. I don't even watch YouTube vids that are sponsored by RC - sick of their over exposed snake oil.
J
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Exactly why do we conclude Arrogant is smart? Have you ever seen him interviewed? He uses words out of context and has this "look at me" attitude. I don't even watch YouTube vids that are sponsored by RC - sick of their over exposed snake oil.
J
I think TTC is implying hes a good businessman, not that Aaron has a high IQ. The dude has built multiple supplement product companies despite being a no body in the sport of bodybuilding. He has a business formula that works and apparently makes him money.
Now if we find out these companies are just shell companies for money laundering they selling of steroids then we can say without a doubt hes an idiot.
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I think TTC is implying hes a good businessman, not that Aaron has a high IQ. The dude has built multiple supplement product companies despite being a no body in the sport of bodybuilding. He has a business formula that works and apparently makes him money.
Now if we find out these companies are just shell companies for money laundering they selling of steroids then we can say without a doubt hes an idiot.
I can't speak for Tres, but that's exactly what I was trying to convey. There's book smarts, common sense, and street-smarts/hustle. I think PJ likely has read a couple of books. Aaron has common sense, and he reads people, trends, and situations.
In other words, Aaron can do what PJ can....,but PJ can't do what Aaron does.
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Fuck you, you jealous peice of shit.
Looool I thought was the PJ for a moment
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Fuck you, you jealous peice of shit.
Was the first time you received anal sex for money the toughest? How did you reconcile this within yourself? Also, did Aaron ever insert his penis into your rectum?
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I think TTC is implying hes a good businessman, not that Aaron has a high IQ. The dude has built multiple supplement product companies despite being a no body in the sport of bodybuilding. He has a business formula that works and apparently makes him money.
Now if we find out these companies are just shell companies for money laundering they selling of steroids then we can say without a doubt hes an idiot.
yes he is a smart supplement businessman! he is playing the field reps like puppets! just like herbal life - why pay GNC and amazon super high prices to carry the brand when you can sell it direct from your site and 1000s of ppl on social media sell it for you? MLM is brillant when you are on top
Aaron is not private equity firm smart or engineering smart but smart how he knows how to game the supplement market which is super crowded.
lets be real.... almost all supp companies sell the same shit BCAA, whey, pre work out
fyi i have never seen recon1 products at any retail store (local GNC or meathead shops)
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Looool I thought was the PJ for a moment
What's the PJ?
I have a degree in chemistry. It doesn't take a specialist in steroidal chemistry (fun fact, did you know cholesterol is a steroid?) to tell you how this all works. Jon Jones doped recently. How is it that he's testing negative sometimes and sometimes 60pg? He's not microdosing. He just needs to know approximately WHEN he'll be tested very very broadly. Turanibol has a very short half life of approximately 16hrs. He knows this, his steroid doc knows this, Dana White, and USADA and our friends at UFC know this.
So we don't have to get into the nitty-gritty of MALDI MS-GC or HPLC or other analytical chemistry specifics. It's pretty simple. Firstly, there are 2 "older" metabolites tested for called I and II, then there are M1-M4, with M3 being the most abundant. II is detectable approximately 22 days with quadrapole MS-GC https://vdocuments.mx/detection-and-mass-spectrometric-characterization-of-novel-long-term-dehydrochloromethyltestosterone.html (https://vdocuments.mx/detection-and-mass-spectrometric-characterization-of-novel-long-term-dehydrochloromethyltestosterone.html)
Now we don't know the exact half-life of these metabolites but ball-park approximation will get us there. Say someone is taking 50mg a day and achieves a serum concentration of 1mg/dL or 0.1mg/mL. This is 100 million times greater than 1pg/mL. Divide this 100m by 60 (since he tested positive for 60pg). You get 1.667 million (ratio of 100 million pg to 60pg). Now divide ln(1.6667M)/ln(1/2) = -20.66. This tells us 1.667M is approximately 20.66 half-lives. Put another way, 2 to the 20.66th power is approximately 1.67M.
This figure is well within some window of time of doping within weeks or few months at best. Why? Because you're talking an unesterfied steroid. On the long-end you may have a half-life of 15 days maybe if this were an esterified steroid, which this is not. But we're talking maybe 12-48h even for the metabolites. Rodchenkov is the premier steroid doctor who devised many of the more advanced detection methods, and ways to foil his own doping-detection methods. And in the paper cited above, he gives that M3 extends the detection window to approximately 50-days.
If you took 16hrs as a proxy, this is 2/3rd of 24hrs/day. Or in 15-months (450 days), this is 675 half-lives. Take 2^675 and you have 6.379x10^205! We're not talking millions or billions or even trillions. We're talking 63.79 septensexagintillion! Compare that to 100M. Take the reciprocal of this huge number, and you have basically that turanibol is undetectable after 15-months. Far below the detection limit around the order of 1 or 10s of pg/mL detection limit.
The labs paid by the UFC are going by the narrative that gets them hired again as consultants. NSAC jurisdiction would never OK this nonsense narrative. Dana White and the UFC probably invested too much in Jon Jones to let this one go. But they also know Alistair Overeem, or Brock Lesnar is doping, and that many of the fighters (that failed and didn't fail drug tests) at ATT are dopers. I approximate 15-65% of current MMA fighters are doping, broad ballpark.
Some opinions shared by many objective individuals that know a thing or two about how these drugs work: Usain Bolt doped/dopes; Michael Johnson doped, Manny Pacquiao doped (EPO, blood-doping, HGH or fragments), JMM doped; GSP doped. More current opinions: Errol Spence Jr. dopes; Romero dopes; Mir dopes/doped. The list is quite large. The smart ones that don't get caught have good chemists on their team, utilize low-half-life drugs and may even manipulate their epitestosterone levels. It's far from rocket science guys.
And for people who ask "What would a low dose even do?", to suggest it is ineffective. The opposite is true. When you are in a speed-strength sport like football or MMA, you don't want powerlifting or bodybuilding levels of anabolic steroids in your system. A fractional amount inadequate for body-building and slow strength training is adequate for performance enhancement with certain anabolic steroids, and is preferred. The shin and muscle pumps are not desirable in these speed-strength sports.
It's very easy to tell when someone is doping. For example, an aged fighter or sports athlete hits a record level of performance past 33 shattering records. This is not possible with plateaued testosterone. The signs become more pronounced with more aggressive, or poorly managed programs. For example, visible bone growth, gut protrusion from HGH and fragments, and other biologics. Ever notice GSP's gut protruding more and more? or Barry Bond's skull growing? This is impossible other than for people with a GH problem, or are otherwise doping. Sudden change in physique with a sudden breakout on the chest and back (JMM, Canelo), sudden explosive gain in musculature past prime (Pacquiao, 8 weight divisions). And signs of poor estrogen or poor prolactin management: Puffy or leaky nipples (Spence).
If you want to know who I think are less likely to have doped, I would say BJ Penn, Mark Hunt, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Devin Haney, Khabib, McGregor, Machida (who's gotten destroyed by several dopers), Idesanya. Doesn't mean they haven't, but in their careers they've not shown the typical symptoms of an aggressive, or poorly-managed doping program. But their lack of extreme swings in vascularity, musculature, weight, etc. tells me they are less likely to have doped.
Jon Jones is so far gone on the doping aspect that he would fall to 4th or 5th best LHW or worse if he were to stop. He's tested off for epitestosterone to testosterone levels (sign of synthetic testosterone doping), he's tested positive for estrogen-management drugs, and for chlorinated anabolic metabolites now twice. In PrideFC and K1 where there was rampant fixing, Alistair and Shogun were extremely sharp with reflexes and took down the top titles. Then when they migrated to a tighter testing environment they fell to bottom or middle of the pack. Coincidence? No not at all. The difference between 1st and 20th in elite fighting is very narrow, and someone 8th can certainly have a better shot at top 2 with the right cocktail of performance enhancing drugs.
The way to fix this is to enforce more consistently, have stiffer penalties, and keep blood and urine frozen for more advanced methods indefinitely, especially for championship fights. But what incentive would an organization have to say their past 10 champions were all cheats? None.
So there has to be a better firewall, of allowing independent bodies make the lab-hiring and methodological decisions. E/T should be tested, the most advanced metabolite tests should be applied, and for championship fights samples should be kept practically indefinitely. There should be zero tolerance with 5-years to lifetime bans for violations because cheating at an extreme fight sport like this can be deadly.
Punishments in case of permanent injury or death should be criminalized (assault with a deadly weapon, manslaughter) in case of clear-cut performance enhancement. Financial penalty is not enough for fighters jeopardizing the lives of others unnecessarily. Financial penalties should contain extended legal liability clawback clauses including against future testing when better methods are established.
Then there is the matter of ex-dopers with low testosterone now utilizing replacement therapy as a loophole. There needs to be established a general population mean level by age bracket and replacement only allowable to say within 1 standard deviation of such mean. The athletes hitting 3 standard deviations out for an 18-year old at age 40 are abusing the system. This isn't replacement but performance enhancement.
If the sport cares about long-term sustainability, and cares that its athletes don't have cardiovascular problems at 35 or 45 (RIP Slice, and many pro wrestlers who had heart attacks at a young age), or getting cancer mid-age (Armstrong, Hug), then it needs to get serious about anti-PED self-regulation and enforcement.
The rhetoric from the VP about how small a picogram is, is a disgrace. The labs passing this off as unbiased research should be blacklisted unless they pass their samples for fully independent verification and opinion. Everybody knows what happened here, and the person that should be most upset is Gusstafson. His life is put at risk by a chronic cheat, and the organization is shifting jurisdiction under the pretext of timing. This is unacceptable. Even with the timing matter, the testing jurisdiction post-fight should still be the more stringent NSAC. A separate body should be allowed to hire any test-facility to conduct an independent test.
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