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Title: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Primemuscle on November 05, 2018, 11:52:48 AM

FALFURRIAS, Tex. — Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico.

Washington Post, November 3
Mary Lee Grant and
Nick Miroff

"FALFURRIAS, Tex. — Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico.

Shannon McGauley and others have been roused by the president’s call to restore order and defend the country against what Trump has called “an invasion."

Asked whether his group planned to deploy with weapons, McGauley laughed. “This is Texas, man,” he said.

Michael Vickers, a veterinarian and rancher in Falfurrias, Texas, says he won’t let outside militia onto his property and he doesn’t think such groups will be trusted by most area landowners.

The prospect of armed vigilantes showing up beside thousands of U.S. troops — along with Border Patrol agents, police officers and migrants — is considered serious enough that military planners have issued warnings to Army commanders."

(https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/tx%20mil3.jpg)
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Primemuscle on November 05, 2018, 12:02:36 PM
Three activists told the AP they were going to the border or organizing others, and groups on Facebook have posted warnings about the caravan. One said it was “imperative that we have boots on the ground.” Another wrote: “WAR! SECURE THE BORDER NOW!”

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Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: TheFranchise on November 05, 2018, 12:22:14 PM
Any country would do this that cares about their borders and if Mexico does nothing, then the US Government and at last, the citizens should be allowed to protect their country.


 
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: milone79 on November 05, 2018, 12:24:43 PM
THIS IS WHY America has the 2nd Amendment!!! TO defend itself from all enemies foreign and domestic!!!!!
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: calfzilla on November 05, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
THIS IS WHY America has the 2nd Amendment!!! TO defend itself from all enemies foreign and domestic!!!!!

Hey, that’s toxic masculinity!

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Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: sarcafago on November 05, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
Three activists told the AP they were going to the border or organizing others, and groups on Facebook have posted warnings about the caravan. One said it was “imperative that we have boots on the ground.” Another wrote: “WAR! SECURE THE BORDER NOW!”

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Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: _bruce_ on November 05, 2018, 01:50:47 PM
40 years too late.
If any shots get fired there will be a national outcry to remove all "baby-killers".
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: dan18 on November 05, 2018, 01:58:31 PM
THIS IS WHY America has the 2nd Amendment!!! TO defend itself from all enemies foreign and domestic!!!!!
Yea well see what happens if you shoot and intruder coming into your house, 2n amendment doesn't mean shit. And if any one of those guys pull a trigger they will go to jail.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Coffeed on November 05, 2018, 01:59:32 PM
Look what happens on the other side of the border if you think being loose on law is good.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 05, 2018, 01:59:40 PM
FALFURRIAS, Tex. — Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico.

Washington Post, November 3
Mary Lee Grant and
Nick Miroff

"FALFURRIAS, Tex. — Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico.

Shannon McGauley and others have been roused by the president’s call to restore order and defend the country against what Trump has called “an invasion."

Asked whether his group planned to deploy with weapons, McGauley laughed. “This is Texas, man,” he said.

Michael Vickers, a veterinarian and rancher in Falfurrias, Texas, says he won’t let outside militia onto his property and he doesn’t think such groups will be trusted by most area landowners.

The prospect of armed vigilantes showing up beside thousands of U.S. troops — along with Border Patrol agents, police officers and migrants — is considered serious enough that military planners have issued warnings to Army commanders."

(https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/tx%20mil3.jpg)


Morons
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Primemuscle on November 05, 2018, 02:19:37 PM
If someone who is part of rogue militia shoots at folks in the caravan and perhaps kills or injures them, there will definitely be an outcry. Not only that, they may be charged with murder or attempted murder.

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — A rare murder trial of a U.S. Border Patrol agent charged with shooting into Mexico in 2012 and killing a teenager started Tuesday with jury selection.

In reference to the Second Amendment, private militias are armed military groups that are composed of private citizens and not recognized by federal or state governments.

Read more: Second Amendment - Private Militias - Government, Law, Freemen, and Federal - JRank Articles http://law.jrank.org/pages/10067/Second-Amendment-PRIVATE-MILITIAS.html#ixzz5W1MNrRvq

Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Dave D on November 05, 2018, 03:18:36 PM
Yea well see what happens if you shoot and intruder coming into your house, 2n amendment doesn't mean shit. And if any one of those guys pull a trigger they will go to jail.

If you fire a gun in America and hit a citizen of another country in Mexico who decides how to prosecute?
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: robcguns on November 05, 2018, 03:25:37 PM
If you fire a gun in America and hit a citizen of another country in Mexico who decides how to prosecute?

Who cares?hahahha kill everyfucking last one of them.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Fortress on November 05, 2018, 03:57:54 PM
Who cares?hahahha kill everyfucking last one of them.

Hail and kill!
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: calfzilla on November 05, 2018, 04:01:42 PM
FALFURRIAS, Tex. — Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico.

Washington Post, November 3
Mary Lee Grant and
Nick Miroff

"FALFURRIAS, Tex. — Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico.

Shannon McGauley and others have been roused by the president’s call to restore order and defend the country against what Trump has called “an invasion."

Asked whether his group planned to deploy with weapons, McGauley laughed. “This is Texas, man,” he said.

Michael Vickers, a veterinarian and rancher in Falfurrias, Texas, says he won’t let outside militia onto his property and he doesn’t think such groups will be trusted by most area landowners.

The prospect of armed vigilantes showing up beside thousands of U.S. troops — along with Border Patrol agents, police officers and migrants — is considered serious enough that military planners have issued warnings to Army commanders."

(https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/tx%20mil3.jpg)

Good thing is if these illegals go make it in, it’s not like they’ll be living in West Linn or Lake O.  ;)
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: dan18 on November 05, 2018, 04:12:05 PM
If you fire a gun in America and hit a citizen of another country in Mexico who decides how to prosecute?
Its up to our legal system if the Mexican officials ask our government to hand you over they could allow it if not then the US system will prosecute or give you a medal depending on who you shot ;D
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Darren Avey on November 06, 2018, 04:54:43 AM
I'm with them in spirit.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: loco on November 06, 2018, 04:59:41 AM
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Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 06, 2018, 05:25:01 AM
FALFURRIAS, Tex. — Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico.

Washington Post, November 3
Mary Lee Grant and
Nick Miroff

"FALFURRIAS, Tex. — Gun-carrying civilian groups and border vigilantes have heard a call to arms in President Trump’s warnings about threats to American security posed by caravans of Central American migrants moving through Mexico.

Shannon McGauley and others have been roused by the president’s call to restore order and defend the country against what Trump has called “an invasion."

Asked whether his group planned to deploy with weapons, McGauley laughed. “This is Texas, man,” he said.

Michael Vickers, a veterinarian and rancher in Falfurrias, Texas, says he won’t let outside militia onto his property and he doesn’t think such groups will be trusted by most area landowners.

The prospect of armed vigilantes showing up beside thousands of U.S. troops — along with Border Patrol agents, police officers and migrants — is considered serious enough that military planners have issued warnings to Army commanders."


Neglecting to include that they intend to simply observe and report.  The lie of omission. 

No doubt trying to create the impression that they are going down there to execute illegals.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: falco on November 06, 2018, 07:38:50 AM
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Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: falco on November 06, 2018, 07:42:12 AM
Rambo 7 will be Sly helping the Mexicans fighting the El Salvador criminales, in the Guatemala border, with the blessing of Trump. Trump character will be performed by a blonde Robert De Niro.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: stuntmovie on November 06, 2018, 08:04:30 AM
Regardless of the pro and con comments above .... this is a very inteesting political situation.

I hope that it is resolved peacefully, but I am adversely against any foreigner entering the USA illegally and also against the idea of Sanctuary Cities such as San Francisco.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Hypertrophy on November 06, 2018, 08:30:54 AM
Good thing is if these illegals go make it in, it’s not like they’ll be living in West Linn or Lake O.  ;)

lol Prime is a classic limousine liberal. All for illegal immigration as long as it doesn't end up in his gated community.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: falco on November 06, 2018, 08:35:18 AM
Aren't vigilantes in the Mexican border, an issue as old as the USA?
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: a_pupil on November 06, 2018, 08:44:44 AM
bunch of jason blahas, LARPing as badass mercenaries.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 06, 2018, 09:39:17 AM
The guy with the M1 must be the point man  :o
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Primemuscle on November 06, 2018, 10:40:23 AM
Good thing is if these illegals go make it in, it’s not like they’ll be living in West Linn or Lake O.  ;)

Perhaps not, unless you can afford live-in help.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Primemuscle on November 06, 2018, 10:47:47 AM
Neglecting to include that they intend to simply observe and report.  The lie of omission. 

No doubt trying to create the impression that they are going down there to execute illegals.

Since when do you need fire arms to observe and report? The military is there to observe and report. Vigilantes are there for what purpose? They weren't invited therefore they can't be a legal militia.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Primemuscle on November 06, 2018, 11:10:18 AM
At the McAllen Texas and Reynosa Mexico bordern it is business as usual. Immigrants come and immigrants go...north, east and west on buses.

After being processed by the US border patrol, and undergoing the requisite security checks, the migrants are dropped off at the local bus station. The hope is that they will somehow find their way to relatives elsewhere in the US, and await a court hearing.

On a typical day, more than 100 asylum-seekers are released from McAllen-area holding facilities, clutching their belongings in clear plastic bags stamped with Department of Homeland Security logos, said Norma Pimentel, executive director of Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley.

Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Dave D on November 06, 2018, 11:35:49 AM
Since when do you need fire arms to observe and report? The military is there to observe and report. Vigilantes are there for what purpose? They weren't invited therefore they can't be a legal militia.

Prime  I'm not saying you're wrong  but since you're playing devils advocate I will too.

Who says they're using real firearms? What if they're just for effect, like dark clothes, sunglasses, handcuffs, etc... All legal items to own and they help with the image they're trying to portray.

So you want the militia, of legal us citizens, to obey whatever laws you're citing but you're not concerned with the laws the immigrants are going to be breaking by coming across the border illegally? Where is the justice with that line of thinking?

Thanks
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Primemuscle on November 06, 2018, 11:58:30 AM
Prime  I'm not saying you're wrong  but since you're playing devils advocate I will too.

Who says they're using real firearms? What if they're just for effect, like dark clothes, sunglasses, handcuffs, etc... All legal items to own and they help with the image they're trying to portray.

So you want the militia, of legal us citizens, to obey whatever laws you're citing but you're not concerned with the laws the immigrants are going to be breaking by coming across the border illegally? Where is the justice with that line of thinking?

Thanks

Dave, I never posted nor am I not concerned about Immigrants entering the U.S. either legally or illegally. I abide the law and expect others to as well. When I read that there are more than 300,000 immigrants (assuming legal immigrants since it is a documented statistic), entering the U.S. annually, it concerns me.

Are you suggesting this because of the photo I posted? I admittedly posted it for effect. There are news reports where the folks headed to the border said the will be armed. Do you honestly think vigilantes are going to the border with fake guns, etc.?
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Dave D on November 06, 2018, 12:31:02 PM
Dave, I never posted nor am I not concerned about Immigrants entering the U.S. either legally or illegally. I abide the law and expect others to as well. When I read that there are more than 300,000 immigrants (assuming legal immigrants since it is a documented statistic), entering the U.S. annually, it concerns me.

Are you suggesting this because of the photo I posted? I admittedly posted it for effect. There are news reports where the folks headed to the border said the will be armed. Do you honestly think vigilantes are going to the border with fake guns, etc.?

I dont know what they're going to the border with. I also dont think these vigilantes are going to attack people coming over legally. I was under the impression they were manning the uncovered/non check point part of the border.

When I drive out of California to say Nevada and then I cross back into CA I have to go through a check point, despite being an American born citizen and I never left the country. I find this shocking as a US citizen. These check points are often backed up for miles and everyone has to wait until they are waved through.

If a state can do this to it's own citizens, which i'm not entirely sure is legal, why can't a country do the same to non citizens.

I'd wager to bet 99% of people dont care about those who are here legally and who acting/behaving accordingly. The real issue, no matter what the media trys to portray, is those who enter illegally, live here and demand equal rights. That's insane.

Can you imagine the outrage of 100,000 legal citizens from the midwest showed up in your city today and voted on your local issues?

Yet that's one of the rights we want to give illegal aliens?
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 06, 2018, 01:17:09 PM
Since when do you need fire arms to observe and report? The military is there to observe and report. Vigilantes are there for what purpose? They weren't invited therefore they can't be a legal militia.

In case shit happens.  It's prudent in a situation like this to be prepared to defend yourself.  You don't know exactly who or what you are going to come across.

Never mind that.   What some liberal fairy thinks you "need", and what it's legal for you to have....are often very different things.

Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Rusty Trombone on November 07, 2018, 02:04:29 AM
Quote from: _bruce_ link=topic=649967.msg9128144#msg9128144 date1541454647
40 years too late.
If any shots get fired there will be a national outcry to remove all "baby-killers".

Unfortunately.

Living in a fairy tale.


The world today consists of destructive liberals and fake conservatives.

Leaders included.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Primemuscle on November 07, 2018, 03:29:12 PM
In case shit happens.  It's prudent in a situation like this to be prepared to defend yourself.  You don't know exactly who or what you are going to come across.

Never mind that.   What some liberal fairy thinks you "need", and what it's legal for you to have....are often very different things.



You are right, shit happens. It's advisable to be ready for anything, including self-defense. It is also advisable to obey the law. Vigilantes and non-sanctioned militia break the law when they show up unofficially and uninvited. In a situation like this, it is prudent to not go there in the first place.

This liberal fairy thinks one needs to not break laws.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: calfzilla on November 11, 2018, 01:22:02 AM
Perhaps not, unless you can afford live-in help.


 ;D
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Darren Avey on November 11, 2018, 01:27:02 AM
SO they re calling Trump evil and Hitler yet they re fighting to get into his country?
Right.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 11, 2018, 04:32:50 AM
You are right, shit happens. It's advisable to be ready for anything, including self-defense. It is also advisable to obey the law. Vigilantes and non-sanctioned militia break the law when they show up unofficially and uninvited. In a situation like this, it is prudent to not go there in the first place.

This liberal fairy thinks one needs to not break laws.

So you agree that the caravan should return to their home countries and not force their way into the USA? 

The problem is, what do you do when people refuse to obey (or enforce) the laws of this country?  Do we just shrug our shoulders and say oh well?

Also, I'm interested to know what laws these "vigilantes" are breaking.

Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 11, 2018, 04:34:51 AM
SO they re calling Trump evil and Hitler yet they re fighting to get into his country?
Right.

...and they don't want anybody to have guns except evil Hitler's government.

It's really hard to take these people seriously.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: stuntmovie on November 11, 2018, 09:36:23 AM
DAVE, Those Cal/Nev check points you mentioned above are check points for fruits and vegetables and flora and fauna only.

Or am I mistaken?

I go through the I-15 checkpoint on my way from Vegas to LA frequently and have never been stopped  even when I have an apple in my lunch bag ... merely waved through.

And likewise for my 100% all American, Mexican friends.

And as far as foreigners entering the US illegally ... I am strictly against that .... and also totally anti sanctuary cities (San Francisco for example).

Will be inteesting to see how this problem is resolved.
Title: Re: Vigilantes head to the Mexican Boarder
Post by: funk51 on November 11, 2018, 11:36:16 AM
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