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Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema is the apparent winner in the Arizona Senate race, narrowly defeating Republican Rep. Martha McSally, according to an NBC News.
Sinema is the first Democratic senator elected in Arizona in 30 years.
McSally conceded the race in a video statement on her Twitter account Monday evening.
"I just called Kyrsten Sinema and congratulated her on being Arizona's first female senator after a hard fight battle," McSally said. "I wish her all success as she represents Arizona in the senate."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democrat-kyrsten-sinema-wins-arizona-senate-race-after-nail-biter-n935206
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Crazy how they "found" all those democrat votes after the election. ::)
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Crazy how they "found" all those democrat votes after the election. ::)
Republican Michelle Reagan is the Secretary of State so if think something "crazy" happened you should take it up with her
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Republican Michelle Reagan is the Secretary of State so if think something "crazy" happened you should take it up with her
Already signed the petition, sent an email and will be calling in tomorrow. 8)
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Already signed the petition, sent an email and will be calling in tomorrow. 8)
LOL - what does the petition say.
Can you post a link
What did your email say?
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democrat-kyrsten-sinema-wins-arizona-senate-race-after-nail-biter-n935206
Seems legit...lol
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LOL - what does the petition say.
Can you post a link
What did your email say?
You seem happy a socialist “won”. Can you explain how socialism will help this country?
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The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do - Joseph Stalin
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You seem happy a socialist “won”. Can you explain how socialism will help this country?
I'm happy the Democrat won
Sorry, can't help you sort our your numerous delusions
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The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do - Joseph Stalin
that's why Trump is POTUS
right?
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that's why Trump is POTUS
right?
See “electoral college”
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I'm happy the Democrat won
Sorry, can't help you sort our your numerous delusions
No, she’s not a democrat. She’s a liberal socialist. Huge difference.
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See “electoral college”
someone counted the individual votes that led to the electors so we're right back where you started
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No, she’s not a democrat. She’s a liberal socialist. Huge difference.
tell us how she is a socialist
I'll even help you out
https://kyrstensinema.com/priorities/
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I'm happy the Democrat won
Obviously. You are a party liner, not what's best for the US, just as long as the demoncrat wins. ::)
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Obviously. You are a party liner, not what's best for the US, just as long as the demoncrat wins. ::)
tell us what Democrats you voted for in the last election
Also, please post a link to the petition to you claimed to sign
Even better post the text of that email you sent.
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tell us what Democrats you voted for in the last election
Also, please post a link to the petition to you claimed to sign
Even better post the text of that email you sent.
None, they have zero to offer and can’t explain their own policies when confronted
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/10/22/az-sen-democrat-kyrsten-sinemas-senate-bid-has-become-a-total-train-wreck-n2528703
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None, they have zero to offer and can’t explain their own policies when confronted
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/10/22/az-sen-democrat-kyrsten-sinemas-senate-bid-has-become-a-total-train-wreck-n2528703
I'm not interested in a pre-election hit piece
focus Trumptard
you have her website
point out the all to socialist items
that is your claim...remember
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I'm not interested in a pre-election hit piece
focus Trumptard
you have her website
point out the all to socialist items
that is your claim...remember
Try to focus. It’s hardly a hit piece since the videos within the article are her, in her own words. What she puts on her website is irrelevant since her past history tells a different tale. But just for shits and giggles, what the hell you think she means by “Quality healthcare for all Arizonans” ? Not only that, she’s admitted to being a socialist
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Try to focus. It’s hardly a hit piece since the videos within the article are her, in her own words. What she puts on her website is irrelevant since her past history tells a different tail. But just for shits and giggles, what the hell you think she means by “Quality healthcare for all Arizonans” ? Not only that, she’s admitted to being a socialist
So when you run the phrase “Quality healthcare for all Arizonans” through your addled brain your "hear" socialism
Is that all you've got
news flash, most people in this country want quality healthcare for everyone
btw - aren't the fat turd who just had a stroke?
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So when you run the phrase “Quality healthcare for all Arizonans” through your addled brain your "hear" socialism
Is that all you've got
news flash, most people in this country want quality healthcare for everyone
btw - aren't the fat turd who just had a stroke?
Going back and forth with you is useless because you can’t answer a one fucking question so I’ll rephrase it. Give me one good policy reason why a liberal should be in office?
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So when you run the phrase “Quality healthcare for all Arizonans” through your addled brain your "hear" socialism
Is that all you've got
news flash, most people in this country want quality healthcare for everyone
btw - aren't the fat turd who just had a stroke?
Btw, ANYTIME you want to compare who’s in shape and who isn’t, feel free to throw a pic. Any fuckkng time you want....say the word
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Going back and forth with you is useless because you can’t answer a one fucking question so I’ll rephrase it. Give me one good policy reason why a liberal should be in office?
What's the problem Trumptard
I'm perfectly happy to discuss the point you brought up
So you're against all citizens of Arizona having quality healthcare?
Why is that
BTW - are you still Pro-Life?
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Btw, ANYTIME you want to compare who’s in shape and who isn’t, feel free to throw a pic. Any fuckkng time you want....say the word
stop begging for a pic queer
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What's the problem Trumptard
I'm perfectly happy to discuss the point you brought up
So you're against all citizens of Arizona having quality healthcare?
Why is that
BTW - are you still Pro-Life?
You’re skating as I knew you would. Remember when Obama said something about quality healthcare? There’s your history.
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stop begging for a pic queer
If you’re going to throw stones, back it up.
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I'd vote for her, possibly. :D
(https://images.axios.com/SgxJHkpDitp6OHWZG3qw9Dv1kkM=/0x363:3662x2423/1920x1080/2018/11/12/1542050331364.jpg)
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If you’re going to throw stones, back it up.
He can't. He won't. And he never will.
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I'd vote for her, possibly. :D
(https://images.axios.com/SgxJHkpDitp6OHWZG3qw9Dv1kkM=/0x363:3662x2423/1920x1080/2018/11/12/1542050331364.jpg)
And she’s openly bisexual. Would love to be in a FMF sammich with her and a girlfriend.
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Coach, I think you'd agree these socialist/ GOV funded programs helped our country :
I define a "socialist program" as one funded by GOV use of tax revenues collected from its' citizens.
1 Are you going to refuse Medicare when you're retired and over 65?
2. Do you drive down public hwys , streets and roads?
3. Do you think state residents should pay "in-state" tuition (* subsidized by state revenue)
4. Did you think the Apollo moon landing was a great program ? I do. FYI, It's a GOV funded program.
5. The first atomic bomb was a totally GOV funded program that got historic results in just 3 years.
6. Should we drop GOV funded school lunch programs and let kids go hungry?
7. How do you think the Police and Fire depts. get paid?
You do know that Gov funded "socialist" programs extend way beyond food stamps ? ;)
I don't know about Coach, but most conservatives oppose social (socialist) programs that subsidize unwed pregnancies, abortions, laziness, etc., thus taking from those who work hard to give to those who choose not to work.
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The Great Society was a set of domestic programs in the United States first announced by President Lyndon B. Johnson at Ohio University, then at University of Michigan, and subsequently promoted by him and fellow Democrats in Congress in the 1960s. Two main goals of the Great Society social reforms were the elimination of poverty and racial injustice. New major spending programs that addressed education, medical care, urban problems, and transportation were launched during this period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society
Economist Thomas Sowell argues that the Great Society programs only contributed to the destruction of African American families, saying "the black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society#African-American_family_structure
Economist Thomas Sowell
(http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Thomas-Sowell-e1336651594849.jpg)
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Coach, I think you'd agree these socialist/ GOV funded programs helped our country :
I define a "socialist program" as one funded by GOV use of tax revenues collected from its' citizens.
1 Are you going to refuse Medicare when you're retired and over 65?
2. Do you drive down public hwys , streets and roads?
3. Do you think state residents should pay "in-state" tuition (* subsidized by state revenue)
4. Did you think the Apollo moon landing was a great program ? I do. FYI, It's a GOV funded program.
5. The first atomic bomb was a totally GOV funded program that got historic results in just 3 years.
6. Should we drop GOV funded school lunch programs and let kids go hungry?
7. How do you think the Police and Fire depts. get paid?
You do know that Gov funded "socialist" programs extend way beyond food stamps ? ;)
Lmao...are you kidding with this? You have a PhD?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
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Coach, I think you'd agree these socialist/ GOV funded programs helped our country :
I define a "socialist program" as one funded by GOV use of tax revenues collected from its' citizens.
1 Are you going to refuse Medicare when you're retired and over 65?
2. Do you drive down public hwys , streets and roads?
3. Do you think state residents should pay "in-state" tuition (* subsidized by state revenue)
4. Did you think the Apollo moon landing was a great program ? I do. FYI, It's a GOV funded program.
5. The first atomic bomb was a totally GOV funded program that got historic results in just 3 years.
6. Should we drop GOV funded school lunch programs and let kids go hungry?
7. How do you think the Police and Fire depts. get paid?
You do know that Gov funded "socialist" programs extend way beyond food stamps ? ;)
The Moon landing is socialist?
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The Moon landing is socialist?
Give Howard a break. He's a retired, public school teacher.
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She is a commie socialist ditz - but would hit
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stop begging for a pic queer
Come on - this is BB site. So far as anyone can tell - there is not a single ounce of evidence you lift or even train. for all anyone knows - you are here just to troll for dick and look at mens' photos and support commies.
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Come on - this is BB site. So far as anyone can tell - there is not a single ounce of evidence you lift or even train. for all anyone knows - you are here just to troll for dick and look at mens' photos and support commies.
LOL
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My point was that all state and federal GOV programs are funded by local, state and fed GOV.
So, government programs are funded by the......government?
In other breaking news today we and that professional sports are played by professionals, and asian people have asian ancestors.
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My point was that all state and federal GOV programs are funded by local, state and fed GOV.
FYI, it's more then sufficeint to say you don't like the GOV funding some welfare program like food stamps.
You don't need to invent a broader association to demonize it.
AGAIN, ( to me) it's perfectly acceptable to say you don't think the GOV should fund something.
I’m sure you understand what a full government takeover consists of.
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Give Howard a break. He's a retired retarded, public school teacher.
Fixed
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I don't know about Coach, but most conservatives oppose social (socialist) programs that subsidize unwed pregnancies, abortions, laziness, etc., thus taking from those who work hard to give to those who choose not to work.
________________________ ________________________ _______________
The Great Society was a set of domestic programs in the United States first announced by President Lyndon B. Johnson at Ohio University, then at University of Michigan, and subsequently promoted by him and fellow Democrats in Congress in the 1960s. Two main goals of the Great Society social reforms were the elimination of poverty and racial injustice. New major spending programs that addressed education, medical care, urban problems, and transportation were launched during this period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society
Economist Thomas Sowell argues that the Great Society programs only contributed to the destruction of African American families, saying "the black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Society#African-American_family_structure
Economist Thomas Sowell
(http://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Thomas-Sowell-e1336651594849.jpg)
Unwed pregnancies? Really? I say let's not fund them. Instead, we should punish those wanton sluts and let their fetuses die. ::)
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Would hit.
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The way she campaigned as a de facto Republican by supporting right wing issues was really something to see.
Back in 2006 the Democratic Party actually stood for something.
Anti-Iraq War
Anti-establishment (with then President Bush at the helm)
Now the Democratic party consists of 2 obvious factions:
A. A bunch of self interested, spineless beaurocrats who will take whatever positions necessary to maintain power. (More on that later with Hillary's potential 2020 campaign)
AND
B. The rising progressive wing who actually do have a spine and do stick to principle.
As a person like myself who is moderate right, if the Democrat Senators like Tester in Montana or Manchin in West Virginia or Sinema in Arizona all feel the need to campaign TO THE RIGHT in order to save their collective asses, then I am starting to feel pretty good about my own principles being held up in the national legislature from a purely pragmatic standpoint.
If Manchin, Tester or Sinema run on leftist ideals, they do not get elected. At this point the Democratic Party must be Republican-lite to even be viable.
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If you’re going to throw stones, back it up.
fuck off
no one asked you for pics (at least I didn't)
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Come on - this is BB site. So far as anyone can tell - there is not a single ounce of evidence you lift or even train. for all anyone knows - you are here just to troll for dick and look at mens' photos and support commies.
I couldn't give a rats ass what you think or believe
I have no need for your approval
BTW - you're the weirdo posting bathroom selfies and videos of yourself wearing child size tshirts
Most adults don't give a shit about posting their pics on the internet
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Not a single person on this site questions the fact I lift and have cred - for 20 fng years
What say you Freddo.
I got B.B. pics from over 20 years ago and presently in great shape - you got a dildo in your mouth
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Not a single person on this site questions the fact I lift and have cred - for 20 fng years
What say you Freddo.
I got B.B. pics from over 20 years ago and presently in great shape - you got a dildo in your mouth
no one cares
why are you so insecure?
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stop begging for a pic queer
wrong again Trumptard
I believe people who bring up gay sex as totally out of context are probably dealing with repressed gay issues.
Obviously gay sex is on their mind ...regardless of the actual topic
This idiot in the UK being concerned about a band of immigrants are no danger to him is about as stupid as a person in Venezuala who is obsessed with the minutia of US politics
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No, she’s not a democrat. She’s a liberal socialist. Huge difference.
You've always had a penchant for regurgitating (poorly, might I add) bits and pieces from last day's talk radio and an almost worrying inability to formulate a single coherent thought in support of even rudimentary positions; coupled with your strained relationship with the truth and objective facts and I felt inclined to read more about this Sinema character. I started from a blank slate since I knew nothing about her before this exercise.
Objective facts suggest that she's slightly left of center and hardly a socialist. Wikipedia (which isn't necessarily an objective source, but at least links to several sources from which we can draw our own conclusions) has this bit: "According to National Journal's 2013 Vote Ratings, her votes place her near the center of their liberal-conservative scale. The National Journal gave her a composite ideology score of 57% liberal and 43% conservative." Hardly "socialist".
But maybe that's just not an accurate description. I mean it is from Wikipedia, right? Luckily her actual votes are a matter of public record and they seem to quite unlike what the votes of a "liberal socialist" would be. Again according to Wikipedia, she voted in line with Trump's position approximately half the time and "the conservative Goldwater Institute gave her a 35% in 2010 when she was a state legislator; the progressive Americans for Democratic Action gave her a 60% liberal quotient."
So she seems, by all accounts, to be just left of center. Her political positions are unmistakably democrat, but she's no Bernie Sanders and doesn't appear to be a socialist anymore than than you appear to be intelligent.
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Unwed pregnancies? Really? I say let's not fund them. Instead, we should punish those wanton sluts and let their fetuses die. ::)
Dang, Prime! You're one harsh, cruel SOB.
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You've always had a penchant for regurgitating (poorly, might I add) bits and pieces from last day's talk radio and an almost worrying inability to formulate a single coherent thought in support of even rudimentary positions; coupled with your strained relationship with the truth and objective facts and I felt inclined to read more about this Sinema character. I started from a blank slate since I knew nothing about her before this exercise.
Objective facts suggest that she's slightly left of center and hardly a socialist. Wikipedia (which isn't necessarily an objective source, but at least links to several sources from which we can draw our own conclusions) has this bit: "According to National Journal's 2013 Vote Ratings, her votes place her near the center of their liberal-conservative scale. The National Journal gave her a composite ideology score of 57% liberal and 43% conservative." Hardly "socialist".
But maybe that's just not an accurate description. I mean it is from Wikipedia, right? Luckily her actual votes are a matter of public record and they seem to quite unlike what the votes of a "liberal socialist" would be. Again according to Wikipedia, she voted in line with Trump's position approximately half the time and "the conservative Goldwater Institute gave her a 35% in 2010 when she was a state legislator; the progressive Americans for Democratic Action gave her a 60% liberal quotient."
So she seems, by all accounts, to be just left of center. Her political positions are unmistakably democrat, but she's no Bernie Sanders and doesn't appear to be a socialist anymore than than you appear to be intelligent.
I think she picked up a lot of male votes when she called out the leeches at home living off their husbands.
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LOL, some folks would love to bring back putting them in the stocks and wearing a scarlet letter.
Hmmmm, they never want to mention the men who impregnated them in the 1st place?
Howard, I take it you and Prime disagree with me and with African American economist Thomas Sowell regarding welfare and African American families?
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I'm familiar with his work and famous quotes , and at 88 (?) he's still going strong.
He makes some interesting points and uses some interesting perspective to make his points.
To be clear, I'm receptive to some of his basic ideology.
Howard and Prime, two white, well-to-do liberals telling us minorities that we need welfare. How wonderful!
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Howard and Prime, two white, well-to-do liberals telling us minorities that we need welfare. How wonderful!
Liberals are more racist than anyone else
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You brought up Sowell, all I did was admit he made some interesting, thoughtful points.
I think each person should be judged fairly by their own merits.
You and Prime both took pot shots at Thomas Sowell's statement, which I agree with, regarding welfare and African American families.
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LOL, some folks would love to bring back putting them in the stocks and wearing a scarlet letter.
Hmmmm, they never want to mention the men who impregnated them in the 1st place?
This could be because 'they' are the very men who used these women as sperm receptacles and then tossed them in the trash. ;)
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Howard, I take it you and Prime disagree with me and with African American economist Thomas Sowell regarding welfare and African American families?
Not really. His thoughts and observations make a lot of sense.
Lucky me, I was the first and only child who was raised in more than a couple of economically sound two parent families. None of which qualified for welfare. It's no wonder I am so incredibly intelligent. ;)
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Howard and Prime, two white, well-to-do liberals telling us minorities that we need welfare. How wonderful!
Hmm, On the face of it, neither Howard nor I said minorities need welfare. You claim to be a minority....do you need welfare? Despite my lack of personal welfare experience, it occurs to me that people who legally qualify for public assistance, need it.
Can't speak for Howard, but I am not "well-to-do", just comfortable.
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Liberals are more racist than anyone else
You must be a liberal.
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You and Prime both took pot shots at Thomas Sowell's statement, which I agree with, regarding welfare and African American families.
I believe you are wrong about this.
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You've always had a penchant for regurgitating (poorly, might I add) bits and pieces from last day's talk radio and an almost worrying inability to formulate a single coherent thought in support of even rudimentary positions; coupled with your strained relationship with the truth and objective facts and I felt inclined to read more about this Sinema character. I started from a blank slate since I knew nothing about her before this exercise.
Objective facts suggest that she's slightly left of center and hardly a socialist. Wikipedia (which isn't necessarily an objective source, but at least links to several sources from which we can draw our own conclusions) has this bit: "According to National Journal's 2013 Vote Ratings, her votes place her near the center of their liberal-conservative scale. The National Journal gave her a composite ideology score of 57% liberal and 43% conservative." Hardly "socialist".
But maybe that's just not an accurate description. I mean it is from Wikipedia, right? Luckily her actual votes are a matter of public record and they seem to quite unlike what the votes of a "liberal socialist" would be. Again according to Wikipedia, she voted in line with Trump's position approximately half the time and "the conservative Goldwater Institute gave her a 35% in 2010 when she was a state legislator; the progressive Americans for Democratic Action gave her a 60% liberal quotient."
So she seems, by all accounts, to be just left of center. Her political positions are unmistakably democrat, but she's no Bernie Sanders and doesn't appear to be a socialist anymore than than you appear to be intelligent.
She’s a self described socialist. Do more research on her and not some obscure biased left of center Wikipedia. For record, I never refer to Wikipedia for political sources and rarely use google for the same reason
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She’s a self described socialist. Do more research on her and not some obscure biased left of center Wikipedia. For record, I never refer to Wikipedia for political sources and rarely use google for the same reason
Which begs the question; what are your political research sources?
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You claim to be a minority....do you need welfare?
Typical racist, rich liberal, white male.
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She’s a self described socialist. Do more research on her and not some obscure biased left of center Wikipedia. For record, I never refer to Wikipedia for political sources and rarely use google for the same reason
Yeah, everything “left of center” when you’re so far to the right, your own liver is to your left!
But you seem to have done your research. So how about throwing a pointer to her statement? I’ll update Wikipedia with it, to bring it a little more to the center.
I’ve yet to see real bias from the Google search engine that wasn’t directly attributable to SEO tactics.
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Howard and Prime, two white, well-to-do liberals telling us minorities that we need welfare. How wonderful!
Note to self, loco is not white ;D
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Note to self, loco is not white ;D
Probably not, but he is loco. ;D I have no problem with either, nor do I think they need welfare as Loco suggested I did.
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Democrat Party to Vote on Censuring Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema
GP ^ | 09/18/2019 | Cassandra Fairbanks
Posted on 9/18/2019, 1:58:27 PM
The Democrat Party is holding a vote to censure Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema because they perceive her moderate stances and voting habits as too friendly towards President Donald Trump.
The liberal senator is by no means a closet Republican, in fact, she has opposed Trump 81 percent of the time — but that is not good enough for her far-left party peers.
“Here’s the thing: We really support Kyrsten Sinema, we want her to succeed, we want her to be the best senator in the country,” Dan O’Neal, state coordinator for Progressive Democrats of America, told the Arizona Republic. “But the way she is voting is really disappointing. We want Democrats to vote like Democrats and not Republicans.”
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Progressive = Communist
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Good for her.
Maybe not a total idiot after all.
I, for one, would love to see even more rebellion within the Democratic party. ;D