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Title: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 29, 2018, 10:34:58 AM
Best system out there.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: dan18 on November 29, 2018, 10:39:09 AM
Best system out there.
best system ever wins every time
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 29, 2018, 11:07:48 AM
Best system out there.
It's a tough system but it tears up the body pretty bad.  If you are into hard Japanese martial art styles I would put Mas Oyama's Kyokushin Karate above Shotokan.  Oyama's first art that he modeled Kyokushin on was Shotokan though.  Oyama had horrible arthritis when he got old probably from all the makawara board striking.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 29, 2018, 11:18:33 AM
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Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: dan18 on November 29, 2018, 11:41:28 AM
BOOM
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Powerlift66 on November 29, 2018, 11:42:02 AM
BOOM

Quicker than the human eye!
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: nativeMUSCLE on November 29, 2018, 12:09:01 PM
best system ever wins every time


Seconded dan18.

Shotokan karate is great........against someone else using karate or something similar. Speaking from experience, these guys do not know what to do off of their back......generally speaking of course. There are always exceptions as with anything
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 29, 2018, 12:31:52 PM
The problem with all Japanese hard style is way too much wasted motion.  Blocking is a waste of time.  Boxers don't block punches they either absorb them or bob and weave so they can't be hit.  Pulling the hands back before striking makes the punch like 3X slower than just throwing the punch.  No grappling so if you go to the ground you are screwed. Pounding the fists and fingers to bloody pulps to toughen them up is counter productive to health and dexterity of the fingers in the future.  So overall Japanese Karate sucks.

Learn to grapple (wrestling, BJJ, Judo, etc) to win on the ground or stand up grappling and learn Muay Thai for stand up.  Muay Thai and BJJ would probably be the perfect combo to use for hand to hand combat.  Of course, as mentioned earlier a gun is the best defense but that is not always available.  This is bodybuilding related as Arthur Jones carried a pistol on him at all times. ;D
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: dan18 on November 29, 2018, 12:46:52 PM
The problem with all Japanese hard style is way too much wasted motion.  Blocking is a waste of time.  Boxers don't block punches they either absorb them or bob and weave so they can't be hit.  Pulling the hands back before striking makes the punch like 3X slower than just throwing the punch.  No grappling so if you go to the ground you are screwed. Pounding the fists and fingers to bloody pulps to toughen them up is counter productive to health and dexterity of the fingers in the future.  So overall Japanese Karate sucks.

Learn to grapple (wrestling, BJJ, Judo, etc) to win on the ground or stand up grappling and learn Muay Thai for stand up.  Muay Thai and BJJ would probably be the perfect combo to use for hand to hand combat.  Of course, as mentioned earlier a gun is the best defense but that is not always available.  This is bodybuilding related as Arthur Jones carried a pistol on him at all times. ;D
I Guess for me these guys spend 85% of there lives doing it to what end, to have some punk shove a knife in your chest over a parking spot. yea for most its a way of life I get it but its not practical in a real world when will you ever need to use it..

I took up kickboxing years ago I teach my boys it great exercises and you can always defend yourself if needed simple art form
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 29, 2018, 12:51:17 PM
I Guess for me these guys spend 85% of there lives doing it to what end, to have some punk shove a knife in your chest over a parking spot. yea for most its a way of life I get it but its not practical in a real world when will you ever need to use it..

I took up kickboxing years ago I teach my boys it great exercises and you can always defend yourself if needed simple art form
I agree.  I spent a lot of time doing stupid martial arts stuff when I was younger and most of it was totally a waste of time.  The likelihood it will ever be used is too small to put that much time into it.  You can learn to fight in a boxing gym (or kickboxing) and wrestle in school to get all the skills you would ever need.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 29, 2018, 12:52:54 PM
I Guess for me these guys spend 85% of there lives doing it to what end, to have some punk shove a knife in your chest over a parking spot. yea for most its a way of life I get it but its not practical in a real world when will you ever need to use it..

I took up kickboxing years ago I teach my boys it great exercises and you can always defend yourself if needed simple art form
Lol...you guys have never met a real Shotokan expert.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: dan18 on November 29, 2018, 01:00:17 PM
Lol...you guys have never met a real Shotokan expert.
I was stationed in japan for 2 years ive met my share of martial art masters were not putting them down its just not a real world applicable skill to spend your whole life doing it. Hey if you enjoy great
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 29, 2018, 01:05:40 PM
I was stationed in japan for 2 years ive met my share of martial art masters were not putting them down its just not a real world applicable skill to spend your whole life doing it. Hey if you enjoy great
I love getting guys like you in the dojo. Slap you around for a while before finishing you off with a quick beat down. ;)
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 29, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
I love getting guys like you in the dojo. Slap you around for a while before finishing you off with a quick beat down. ;)
I used to compete in wrestling, BJJ and trained in boxing and Kenpo so I wouldn't be too worried.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 29, 2018, 01:21:26 PM
I used to compete in wrestling, BJJ and trained in boxing and Kenpo so I wouldn't be too worried.
Go get 'em Tiger! Lol
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 29, 2018, 01:26:11 PM
ggggrrrrrrrr!
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 29, 2018, 02:17:12 PM
Lol...you guys have never met a real Shotokan expert.

Can you point me to some video of one of the chaps in an actual fight?
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 29, 2018, 02:36:17 PM
Can you point me to some video of one of the chaps in an actual fight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Pe-rhOz7M
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 29, 2018, 03:22:02 PM

Not a good example, as that practitioner was not using Traditional Shotokan.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Bevo on November 29, 2018, 06:11:02 PM
The problem with all Japanese hard style is way too much wasted motion.  Blocking is a waste of time.  Boxers don't block punches they either absorb them or bob and weave so they can't be hit.  Pulling the hands back before striking makes the punch like 3X slower than just throwing the punch.  No grappling so if you go to the ground you are screwed. Pounding the fists and fingers to bloody pulps to toughen them up is counter productive to health and dexterity of the fingers in the future.  So overall Japanese Karate sucks.

Learn to grapple (wrestling, BJJ, Judo, etc) to win on the ground or stand up grappling and learn Muay Thai for stand up.  Muay Thai and BJJ would probably be the perfect combo to use for hand to hand combat.  Of course, as mentioned earlier a gun is the best defense but that is not always available.  This is bodybuilding related as Arthur Jones carried a pistol on him at all times. ;D

True but where do you think BJJ came from?

It’s all about taking all the strengths in different martial arts and boxing, wasn’t Bruce Lee the advocate for this? No true pure style is any use
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: tommywishbone on November 29, 2018, 06:13:17 PM
Ed Parker giggles at such folly.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 29, 2018, 07:24:40 PM
The problem with all Japanese hard style is way too much wasted motion.  Blocking is a waste of time.  Boxers don't block punches they either absorb them or bob and weave so they can't be hit.  Pulling the hands back before striking makes the punch like 3X slower than just throwing the punch.  No grappling so if you go to the ground you are screwed. Pounding the fists and fingers to bloody pulps to toughen them up is counter productive to health and dexterity of the fingers in the future.  So overall Japanese Karate sucks.

Learn to grapple (wrestling, BJJ, Judo, etc) to win on the ground or stand up grappling and learn Muay Thai for stand up.  Muay Thai and BJJ would probably be the perfect combo to use for hand to hand combat.  Of course, as mentioned earlier a gun is the best defense but that is not always available.  This is bodybuilding related as Arthur Jones carried a pistol on him at all times. ;D

Finally someone making sense on get big.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: DooM_ on November 29, 2018, 09:11:15 PM
all this stuff is a waste of time
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 29, 2018, 10:19:41 PM
I was stationed in japan for 2 years ive met my share of martial art masters were not putting them down its just not a real world applicable skill to spend your whole life doing it. Hey if you enjoy great

I was in Okinawa 5 years, where were you?
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 29, 2018, 11:29:39 PM
all this stuff is a waste of time

Bingo.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 29, 2018, 11:32:31 PM
I don't know.. it was a workout regardless. Certainly the best cardio shape I had been in
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Bevo on November 30, 2018, 12:45:51 AM
all this stuff is a waste of time

As opposed to injecting copious amounts of steriods just to get big muscles and pose in a thong?
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2018, 04:47:47 AM
Ed Parker giggles at such folly.
Ed Parker's Kenpo is a complete and total waste of time if you want to learn to fight.  Unfortunately I know because I wasted years in that stupid art. :(
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: _bruce_ on November 30, 2018, 04:52:54 AM
(http://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/2587/FootFistWay.jpg)

Looks like he loves killing it in the showers with his hardon.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: dan18 on November 30, 2018, 05:21:12 AM
I used to compete in wrestling, BJJ and trained in boxing and Kenpo so I wouldn't be too worried.
why do these guys always think they are superman anyone can get beat on any given day.I bet he tells everyone he meets that he does martial arts real tough guys don't act tough they are regular guys who handle there shit if needed
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: dan18 on November 30, 2018, 05:24:59 AM
I was in Okinawa 5 years, where were you?
camp foster marine base stationed there for 2 years
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: DooM_ on November 30, 2018, 06:10:45 AM
As opposed to injecting copious amounts of steriods just to get big muscles and pose in a thong?

both are a waste of time , except someone going to gym a few times a week and using light weights can still look fit . . . without having to a punch a bag a thousand times and get their skull knocked around . . .
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Kwon on November 30, 2018, 06:14:37 AM
both are a waste of time , except someone going to gym a few times a week and using light weights can still look fit . . . without having to a punch a bag a thousand times and get their skull knocked around . . .

Everything is a waste of time, we are all Systems Programs.


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Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: illuminati on November 30, 2018, 06:27:27 AM
why do these guys always think they are superman anyone can get beat on any given day.I bet he tells everyone he meets that he does martial arts real tough guys don't act tough they are regular guys who handle there shit if needed

Very true
I often wonder who they are trying to impress - mainly themselves
Clearly They are Scared & are trying to scare others by telling how dangerous they are  ::)
Them sort are Fucking useless in a violent confrontational situation ( In my experience )
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Kwon on November 30, 2018, 06:30:15 AM
Very true
I often wonder who they are trying to impress - mainly themselves
Clearly They are Scared & are trying to scare others by telling how dangerous they are  ::)
Them sort are Fucking useless in a violent confrontational situation ( In my experience )

The Shotokan practicioners i've met during the years are usually quite tough, but none of that matters, since you need a gun these days.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 30, 2018, 06:54:15 AM
The Shotokan practicioners i've met during the years are usually quite tough, but none of that matters, since you need a gun these days.
That's where disarming techniques come into play. I'll take your gun away from you and wail on you.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: dan18 on November 30, 2018, 07:01:46 AM
That's where disarming techniques come into play. I'll take your gun away from you and wail on you.
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssure you would....

 nurse--  What do we have doctor''
 doctor-- well seems this guy with the hole in his chest was trying to grab the attackers gun..
nurse--- what an asshole who does he think he is superman
doctor--- yep see it all the time few years of martial arts they think they can do anything
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Darren Avey on November 30, 2018, 07:05:12 AM
Bjj guys all think they're superman. 
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 30, 2018, 07:31:38 AM
ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssure you would....

 nurse--  What do we have doctor''
 doctor-- well seems this guy with the hole in his chest was trying to grab the attackers gun..
nurse--- what an asshole who does he think he is superman
doctor--- yep see it all the time few years of martial arts they think they can do anything
I beat guys up
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: dan18 on November 30, 2018, 07:34:03 AM
I beat guys off for fun
fixed
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: falco on November 30, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
Did shotokan when a teen.
I believe it's a bit too static. Boxing is 10 times more fluid and effective.
Not many men are going to use the kicks in the street, without proper warming up and streching, wearing regular jeans.

Regarding being hard on ones health, my former master, in his fifthies, has had both hips replaced, and has arthritis in his hands.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 30, 2018, 08:45:46 AM
Did shotokan when a teen.
I believe it's a bit too static. Boxing is 10 times more fluid and effective.
Not many men are going to use the kicks in the street, without proper warming up and streching, wearing regular jeans.

Regarding being hard on ones health, my former master, in his fifthies, has had both hips replaced, and has arthritis in his hands.
You need to get your ass kicked by a Karate Master. That is what it will take to put your mind right, evidently.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: falco on November 30, 2018, 08:56:42 AM
You need to get your ass kicked by a Karate Master. That is what it will take to put your mind right, evidently.

At your age, you will not reach karate master status anytime soon.

Everybody knows if you hit a front double biceps pose, in front of your attacker, he will run for his life.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: dan18 on November 30, 2018, 09:00:54 AM
At your age, you will not reach karate master status anytime soon.

Everybody knows if you hit a front double biceps pose, in front of your attacker, he will run for his life.
Or the most muscular pose but don't start with that one its very advanced stuff you just want to scare them not kill them
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2018, 11:31:16 AM
why do these guys always think they are superman anyone can get beat on any given day.I bet he tells everyone he meets that he does martial arts real tough guys don't act tough they are regular guys who handle there shit if needed
I was responding to Brian Poulos.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: dan18 on November 30, 2018, 11:48:20 AM
I was responding to Brian Poulos.
I know I was putting that statement on him .....gotta keep up my man  ;D
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 30, 2018, 12:00:53 PM
I know I was putting that statement on him .....gotta keep up my man  ;D
Time and place big shot?
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2018, 12:02:22 PM
I know I was putting that statement on him .....gotta keep up my man  ;D
I'm slow today.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 30, 2018, 12:11:45 PM
I'm slow today.
That's called mental retardation. Every day for you.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Pray_4_War on November 30, 2018, 12:20:31 PM
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Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2018, 12:22:43 PM
That's called mental retardation. Every day for you.
O.K. tough guy.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 30, 2018, 02:39:14 PM
O.K. tough guy.
Make a move big shot
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2018, 02:54:26 PM
Make a move big shot
I'll think of you while making a bowel movement.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on November 30, 2018, 02:57:08 PM
I'll think of you while making a bowel movement.
Coward
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2018, 03:00:38 PM
Coward
Yes, let's plan a fight against each other.  What are you a third grader?
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: IroNat on November 30, 2018, 06:59:01 PM
Practical self-defense should not require endless training to maintain proficiency.

Some examples of that are effective but simple:

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(http://www.martialartsdo.org/articles/miscellaneous/files/palmstrike.jpg)

(http://youthvillage.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/kicked_balls_fb-865x452.jpg)

(https://moderncombatandsurvival.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Knife-Fighting-Stance-Bad-Final.jpg)
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Fortress on November 30, 2018, 07:47:50 PM
(https://moderncombatandsurvival.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Knife-Fighting-Stance-Bad-Final.jpg)

Steve Perry resting the pipes but ratcheting up the aggression!

 :o
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 01, 2018, 03:35:56 AM
Ha, ha, Scott Bolan.  I get his stupid emails almost everyday.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Pray_4_War on December 01, 2018, 04:49:59 AM
I guess we all have our own ideas about self defense.  Some people do karate and kung fu because they believe silly Hollywood movies.

The people that aren't retarded simply buy a Glock.

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Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 01, 2018, 04:54:10 AM
Yes but there are times where you don't have guns with you unless you're Arthur Jones and he's dead.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Pray_4_War on December 01, 2018, 05:04:26 AM
Yes but there are times where you don't have guns with you unless you're Arthur Jones and he's dead.

When places post up signs telling me that I'm not allowed to carry, I either..........

A.  Don't go there.

or

B.  Go there, see the sign, and silently laugh because I don't give a fuck.

Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Griffith on December 01, 2018, 06:51:32 AM
Yes but there are times where you don't have guns with you unless you're Arthur Jones and he's dead.

Criminals are going to be using weapons anyway and it will often be a surprise attack.

For other situations, if a person doesn't hang out in shitty places with trashy people then the chances of being involved in a fight are basically zero.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 01, 2018, 10:52:07 AM
Yes, if you don't hang out in bars and night clubs the likelihood you will ever be in a fight as an adult are small.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on December 01, 2018, 10:53:58 AM
I disarm criminales and beat the shit out of them. With karate.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Pray_4_War on December 01, 2018, 10:58:10 AM
I disarm criminales and beat the shit out of them. With karate.

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Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: falco on December 02, 2018, 03:08:10 PM
I disarm criminales and beat the shit out of them. With karate.

I still stand by the superiority of the front double bicep pose.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: Brian Poulos on December 02, 2018, 03:10:45 PM
I still stand by the superiority of the front double bicep pose.
I got 18.5" guns. FTW.
Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: IroNat on December 02, 2018, 06:39:05 PM
Yes, if you don't hang out in bars and night clubs the likelihood you will ever be in a fight as an adult are small.

Fact.

Title: Re: Shotokan Karate
Post by: BIG DUB on December 03, 2018, 06:31:05 AM
Military fighting is where it's at. No time to see who has the best Floyd Mayweather shoulder roll. Quick, down and out and the fight is over..