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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Straw Man on December 19, 2018, 10:44:43 AM
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Apparently he gave no warning to his military leaders or anyone in Congress
I don't know why the would be surprised. He's just fulfilling the mandate of the his Russian Handlers
He is a self proclaimed asset of Russia
No big deal. Iran and Russia will be happy to fill the power vacuum and take control of the region
Trump’s Syria withdrawal flies in the face of statements from top military and national security leaders
President Donald Trump’s reported call for a rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces from Syria comes in stark contrast to statements by his own national security adviser, military leaders, members of Congress and the larger strategic aims laid out to aid Kurdish forces, and counter both Iranian and Russian influence.
The move counters public statements by National Security Adviser John Bolton to the United Nations in September that seemed to remove withdrawal from the options even after ISIS was defeated.
“We’re not going to leave as long as Iranian troops are outside Iranian borders, and that includes Iranian proxies and militias,” Bolton said at the time.
The Department of Defense released a short statement Wednesday morning that echoes their work in the region since operations to counter Islamic State militants in both Iraq and Syria began nearly three years ago.
Trump’s statement about victory over ISIS and subsequent media reports about a withdrawal of the estimated 2,000 U.S. troops from Syria surfaced Wednesday, seeming to catch Pentagon officials flat footed.
The move counters public statements by National Security Adviser John Bolton to the United Nations in September that seemed to remove withdrawal from the options even after ISIS was defeated.
“We’re not going to leave as long as Iranian troops are outside Iranian borders, and that includes Iranian proxies and militias,” Bolton said at the time.
The Department of Defense released a short statement Wednesday morning that echoes their work in the region since operations to counter Islamic State militants in both Iraq and Syria began nearly three years ago.
“At this time, we continue to work by, with and through our partners in the region,” the Pentagon statement read, reiterating a standard line that is often included with routine news from the operation.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/12/19/trumps-syria-withdrawal-flies-in-the-face-of-statements-from-top-military-and-national-security-leaders/
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We should not be in Syria period. Never should have been involved there.
Syria has been an ally of Russia for a long time.
Syria is a stabilizing influence in the Middle East. If Assad falls there will be a power vacuum and a Sharia state will take over.
Assad is bad but Syria would be worse for world order without him.
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What's the over under that Strawman has supported Code Pink and other anti-war groups in the last 15 years? You would be elated but for Trump making the decision.
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Apparently he gave no warning to his military leaders or anyone in Congress
I don't know why the would be surprised. He's just fulfilling the mandate of the his Russian Handlers
He is a self proclaimed asset of Russia
No big deal. Iran and Russia will be happy to fill the power vacuum and take control of the region
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/12/19/trumps-syria-withdrawal-flies-in-the-face-of-statements-from-top-military-and-national-security-leaders/
Are you now a war hawk?
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Haven't looked into the details all that much yet but it seems taking our boys out of other countries would be a good thing.
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Apparently he gave no warning to his military leaders or anyone in Congress
I don't know why the would be surprised. He's just fulfilling the mandate of the his Russian Handlers
He is a self proclaimed asset of Russia
No big deal. Iran and Russia will be happy to fill the power vacuum and take control of the region
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/12/19/trumps-syria-withdrawal-flies-in-the-face-of-statements-from-top-military-and-national-security-leaders/
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From news reports today it seems Putin is very happy with Trumps decision while our own military is not so happy about it
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From news reports today it seems Putin is very happy with Trumps decision while our own military is not so happy about it
Agreed! We should stay and build bridges of freedom and democracy. Those people are all very receptive of Western ideals. Iraq, Libya and the Stans are thriving.
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Agreed! We should stay and build bridges of freedom and democracy. Those people are all very receptive of Western ideals. Iraq, Libya and the Stans are thriving.
or we can do what we've always done which is stay to keep our enemies from gaining control over the region
Look who is happy that we are withdrawing....Syria, Iran, and Russia
Who is unhappy - US military, our allies and Israel isn't happy about it either
BTW - Trump said we're leaving because we've defeated ISIS in Syria. Is this true or is it the 3,287th lie that Trump has told since taking office
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Look at the Democrat hawk! ::)
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What's the over under that Strawman has supported Code Pink and other anti-war groups in the last 15 years? You would be elated but for Trump making the decision.
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It’s as though these people have zero self-awareness. They’re actually getting on Trump for pulling troops out of a foreign country.🤔
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or we can do what we've always done which is stay to keep our enemies from gaining control over the region
Look who is happy that we are withdrawing....Syria, Iran, and Russia
Who is unhappy - US military, our allies and Israel isn't happy about it either
BTW - Trump said we're leaving because we've defeated ISIS in Syria. Is this true or is it the 3,287th lie that Trump has told since taking office
Just like weve been in S Korea since 1953? Great idea. Some countries need dictators you dufus. Remember 44's Arab Spring of 2010? How we supported that? Where has it gotten us? Dead men and more and more in debt. The ME runs much better when authoritarian figures are in control, reality is reality.
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Israel plays a role in this, we just don't know how yet. Bibi is silent. Think about it...
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democrats and neocons for endless wars!
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democrats and neocons for endless wars!
Both parties let their obsession with Iran aka the boogey man cloud their judgement. Assad might not be perfect, but he is secular/shiite and very westernized. But, he is close with Iran so we cut off our noses to spite our face. We never should have been there in the 1st place.
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It’s as though these people have zero self-awareness. They’re actually getting on Trump for pulling troops out of a foreign country.🤔
To be pro-American military involvement in other countries supporting their borders, but to be anti when those same troops are protecting our own border? I just don't get it. There's zero logic there. It's TDS.
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democrats and neocons for endless wars!
You're not fucking serious are you? Republicans love war, big money for them.
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Trump withdrew troops from Syria, and lifted sanctions on Russian oligarch Oleg Depraska. All to appease Putin, plain and simple. Trump is the only one other than Putin that thinks it is a good idea to withdraw troops from Syria. Even the Republicans think its a bad idea.
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Trump withdrew troops from Syria, and lifted sanctions on Russian oligarch Oleg Depraska. All to appease Putin, plain and simple. Trump is the only one other than Putin that thinks it is a good idea to withdraw troops from Syria. Even the Republicans think its a bad idea.
Yes!!! Go Russia!!!
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Trump withdrew troops from Syria, and lifted sanctions on Russian oligarch Oleg Depraska. All to appease Putin, plain and simple. Trump is the only one other than Putin that thinks it is a good idea to withdraw troops from Syria. Even the Republicans think its a bad idea.
So when would be a good time? Answer: never.
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Trump withdrew troops from Syria, and lifted sanctions on Russian oligarch Oleg Depraska. All to appease Putin, plain and simple. Trump is the only one other than Putin that thinks it is a good idea to withdraw troops from Syria. Even the Republicans think its a bad idea.
You're an idiot lildick1. No one I know in the military, and I know well into the hundreds, thinks we should be there. We've been in Afghanistan for 17 years and accomplished next to nothing. If Assad had been left alone, Syria would still just be a nuissance. Like a fly that keeps buzzing around that you wave away but we created a nest of wasps. Same with Libya and Iraq. And for what? Fight terrorists there and not here? That's BS and always has been. Good intel is what defeats terrorism, not M1's and A-10's. Let Assad have Syria back, it will be back to normal. The same way we should've left Saddam and Gaddafi alone. We destabilized the ME much more than we helped it. So unless we glass the entire region, we are stuck with a bunch of goat fuckers who hate us regardless what we do. Lildick1 ::)
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You're an idiot lildick1. No one I know in the military, and I know well into the hundreds, thinks we should be there. We've been in Afghanistan for 17 years and accomplished next to nothing. If Assad had been left alone, Syria would still just be a nuissance. Like a fly that keeps buzzing around that you wave away but we created a nest of wasps. Same with Libya and Iraq. And for what? Fight terrorists there and not here? That's BS and always has been. Good intel is what defeats terrorism, not M1's and A-10's. Let Assad have Syria back, it will be back to normal. The same way we should've left Saddam and Gaddafi alone. We destabilized the ME much more than we helped it. So unless we glass the entire region, we are stuck with a bunch of goat fuckers who hate us regardless what we do. Lildick1 ::)
This guy echoes the opinion of the military guys I know.
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“Mattis was particularly exasperated and alarmed, telling close associates that the president acted like — and had the understanding of — ‘a fifth- or sixth-grader.’ ”
the same can be said for every single Trumptard on this board
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Leftists trying to beat back logic all day like this.
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