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2019 Detroit Auto Show A-Z Guide To All The Vehicle Debuts
BY John Halas
If there’s one car we’d pick as the highlight of the 2019 Detroit show, that would arguably be the long-anticipated fifth-generation Toyota Supra coupe. Other notable world premieres include the all-new Ford Explorer, Kia Telluride, and Cadillac XT6 SUVs, as well as the redesigned Volkswagen Passat.
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2019-detroit-auto-show-z-guide-vehicle-debuts/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2019-detroit-auto-show-z-guide-vehicle-debuts/)
2020 Cadillac XT6
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2020 Toyota Supra: More Photos Leak, Pricing Said To Start From $49,990
BY Michael Gauthier
2020 Toyota Supra
Toyota has been tight-lipped on technical specifications, but Supra chief engineer Tetsuya Tada has already confirmed the car will be powered by a BMW-sourced engine as inline-sixes are one “non-negotiable attribute” about the car. In the BMW Z4 M40i, the engine produces 382 hp (284 kW / 387 PS) and 369 lb-ft (500 Nm) of torque. This enables the roadster to run from 0-60 mph (0-96 km/h) in just 4.4 seconds.
Base 3.0 six cylinder: $49,990
Premium 3.0 six cylinder: $53,990
Launch edition 3.0 six cylinder: $55,250
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-apparently-revealed-production-form/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-apparently-revealed-production-form/)
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2020 Ford Explorer Debuts With Less Weight And New RWD Platform
BY Michael Gauthier
Under the hood, there will be a variety of different engines including an entry-level 2.3-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder that develops 300 hp (223 kW / 304 PS) and 310 lb-ft (420 Nm) of torque. It is connected to an all-new ten-speed automatic transmission which sends power to the rear wheels. However, customers can order an optional intelligent four-wheel drive system which is available with a terrain management system that features seven different modes.
Drivers looking for something more powerful can opt for the 3.0-liter EcoBoost V6 which develops an estimated 365 hp (272 kW / 370 PS) and 380 lb-ft (514 Nm) of torque when running on 93-octane fuel. Thanks to the new engine and the rear-wheel drive platform, the 2020 Explorer can tow up to 5,600 lbs (2,540 kg).
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-explorer-debuts-less-weight-new-rwd-platform/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-explorer-debuts-less-weight-new-rwd-platform/)
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https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-apparently-revealed-production-form/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-apparently-revealed-production-form/)
2020 Supra
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Supra is complete and utter TRASH !! Massive fail by Toyota
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2020 Ford Explorer Debuts With Less Weight And New RWD Platform
BY Michael Gauthier
Under the hood, there will be a variety of different engines including an entry-level 2.3-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder that develops 300 hp (223 kW / 304 PS) and 310 lb-ft (420 Nm) of torque. It is connected to an all-new ten-speed automatic transmission which sends power to the rear wheels. However, customers can order an optional intelligent four-wheel drive system which is available with a terrain management system that features seven different modes.
Drivers looking for something more powerful can opt for the 3.0-liter EcoBoost V6 which develops an estimated 365 hp (272 kW / 370 PS) and 380 lb-ft (514 Nm) of torque when running on 93-octane fuel. Thanks to the new engine and the rear-wheel drive platform, the 2020 Explorer can tow up to 5,600 lbs (2,540 kg).
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-explorer-debuts-less-weight-new-rwd-platform/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-explorer-debuts-less-weight-new-rwd-platform/)
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Love the ford explorers.Dont care for that Supra though.
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Supra is complete and utter TRASH !! Massive fail by Toyota
Not from the pre production reviews
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Supra looks like shit.
Looks like a Subaru BRZ had sex with a 2002 BMW Z
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Not a fan of the new Supra either. Days where the Japanese car manufacturers built great affordable(well kind of) sportscars are long gone. They had more enthusiasm back then.
But I guess they realized there's not much profit in that game.
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Not a fan of the new Supra either. Days where the Japanese car manufacturers built great affordable(well kind of) sportscars are long gone. They had more enthusiasm back then.
But I guess they realized there's not much profit in that game.
They are trying to make the cats look futuristic.
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Supra.... take it around Laguna Seca a few laps.... i bet you'd like it for those 30 minutes... ;D
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Supra.... take it around Laguna Seca a few laps.... i bet you'd like it for those 30 minutes... ;D
No. No I wouldn't. It looks like shit, has a tiny engine, sounds like a lawnmower. Maybe if you are are Californian and want a wimpy sounding car.
I`ll stick with Corvette. :)
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2020 Cadillac XT6
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Chevy Traverse
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I'm thinking about a small diesel in my next car. Came close to a Dodge Ram with the 3.0 diesel in it and may yet get one but I'm also looking at the GMC Terrain with the 1.6 diesel. That Supra is okay. I had a first year Celica and liked it.
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Supra interior
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https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-apparently-revealed-production-form/#lg=1&slide=5 (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-apparently-revealed-production-form/#lg=1&slide=5)
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2020 Supra
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https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-apparently-revealed-production-form/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-apparently-revealed-production-form/)
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Looks boring.
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If that's the 2020 'Stang (and it looks like it is), Ford can go stuff it. They were much better looking from 2010 to 2014 and then someone broke the fugly stick on 'em. If this is what to expect, it's expectorant time. BARF!
FU FoMoCo. You've turned an American Icon into a pussified Eurocrapper.
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2020 Supra
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Supra
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2020 Supra
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Cool looking Miata!
hahahah piece of shit.
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I'm looking forward to the days when we no longer name engines things like "eco-boost".
Pure phaggotry.
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Supra is complete and utter TRASH !! Massive fail by Toyota
1000% agreed.....this has got to be one of the biggest disappointment of the show....the 90's Supra was Legendary
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people are already criticizing this GT500 for not giving a Manual gearbox option and instead, replaced it with the rotary gear selector....the rotary gear selector is a first time for the Mustang brand....I'd say chill out already...this GT500 is gonna kick ass on the track and it's also DCT, a first time for the mustang brand.....I'm already seeing a big reduction in price for used GT350 with 10k+ miles going for the low 48-50k......
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https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-apparently-revealed-production-form/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-toyota-supra-apparently-revealed-production-form/)
2020 Supra
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what a fucking let down!! LMAO!!! Toyota totally lost the plot!! I expect sales to crash and burn on this POS!!!
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Cool looking Miata!
hahahah piece of shit.
If you mean it'll be tearing up the race tracks around the world, then yes it does look like a Miata. Good observation. I'm sure we'll see more Supra racing series.
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The Mustang is being overworked on the sheet metal. Starting to look like an old Nissan 240SX.
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2019 Ram HD Brings Up To 1,000 Lb-Ft Of Torque, Class-Leading Towing
BY Dan Mihalascu
Ram backs these claims with the new model’s 35,100-lb (14,288-kg) towing capacity and a payload capacity of 7,680 lbs (3,483 kg).
These impressive specs are made possible by the new 6.7-liter Cummins inline six-cylinder turbo diesel engine that produces 400 hp at 2,800 rpm and up 1,000 lb-ft (1,354 Nm) of torque at 1,800 rpm. There’s also a de-tuned version of the same power plant that delivers 370 hp at 2,800 rpm and 850 lb-ft (1,151 Nm) of torque at 1,700 rpm that’s available on the 2019 Ram 3500 HD.
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2019-ram-hd-brings-1000-lb-ft-torque-class-leading-towing/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2019-ram-hd-brings-1000-lb-ft-torque-class-leading-towing/)
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35,100-lb Max Towing Capacity
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Brand New 2019 Ram Heavy Duty
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2020 Ford Shelby GT500 Is The Fastest, Most Powerful Mustang Ever
BY Michael Karkafiris
Ford didn’t reveal however all the details of the new GT500, saying it produces “over 700hp”, making it capable of 0-60mph in mid-three seconds and a quarter mile score of under 11 seconds.
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-shelby-gt500-fastest-powerful-mustang-ever/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-shelby-gt500-fastest-powerful-mustang-ever/)
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1000% agreed.....this has got to be one of the biggest disappointment of the show....the 90's Supra was Legendary
The new Surpa BMW has just 15HP more than the same car from 1994??? Fucking seriously. The 2jz has legendary reliability & tunability. BMW's motors are fucking timebombs. Suddenly the new NSX isn't looking so bad.
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If you mean it'll be tearing up the race tracks around the world, then yes it does look like a Miata. Good observation. I'm sure we'll see more Supra racing series.
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Yes, tearing up tracks. All 300 Horsepower. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Shit Car.
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2020 Ford Shelby GT500 Is The Fastest, Most Powerful Mustang Ever
BY Michael Karkafiris
Ford didn’t reveal however all the details of the new GT500, saying it produces “over 700hp”, making it capable of 0-60mph in mid-three seconds and a quarter mile score of under 11 seconds.
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-shelby-gt500-fastest-powerful-mustang-ever/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-ford-shelby-gt500-fastest-powerful-mustang-ever/)
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It's the tranniemobile. As disappointing to a REAL Man as finding out that the girl you've waited for at the airport is nothing like the pictures she sent. And it has a dickshift. FTN of Ford and their 2020 Mudstain.
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people are already criticizing this GT500 for not giving a Manual gearbox option and instead, replaced it with the rotary gear selector....the rotary gear selector is a first time for the Mustang brand....I'd say chill out already...this GT500 is gonna kick ass on the track and it's also DCT, a first time for the mustang brand.....I'm already seeing a big reduction in price for used GT350 with 10k+ miles going for the low 48-50k......
The flat plane crank 5.2L in the GT350 is badass.
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Although I look forward to seeing the new Supra in person, overall the car is a bit of a let down.
I’m surprised that this wasn’t a minimum 400hp platform with either blown straight 6 or 32V DOHC V8. Price it neck and neck with base C7. Offer some of kind of TRD track pack for $8-10K upgrade.
More surprising to me is that Toyota worked with BMW in any capacity on a model with the heritage of the Supra. This should have been a pure Toyota ground up design. Supra name has too much brand equity.
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2019 BMW 7 Series
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https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/bmw-goes-official-boldly-updated-7-series-flagship-sedan/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/bmw-goes-official-boldly-updated-7-series-flagship-sedan/)
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2020 Kia Telluride
Kia's come a long way from the original Sephia. The Telluride's based on the same platform as the Hyundai Palisade.
(https://images.carscoops.com/2019/01/8774f6f9-2020-kia-telluride-1.jpg)
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-kia-telluride-largest-kia-ever-powered-v6/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-kia-telluride-largest-kia-ever-powered-v6/)
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Supra looks like shit.
Looks like a Subaru BRZ had sex with a 2002 BMW Z
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well that is actually not far off the truth.
pretty sure the 2020 Z4 and 2020 Supra shares platform. Meaning same engine, transmission and probably even shassis. Slight differences here and there but the "new Supra" is basically a Z4 with some different plastic panels I believe lol
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Although I look forward to seeing the new Supra in person, overall the car is a bit of a let down.
I’m surprised that this wasn’t a minimum 400hp platform with either blown straight 6 or 32V DOHC V8. Price it neck and neck with base C7. Offer some of kind of TRD track pack for $8-10K upgrade.
More surprising to me is that Toyota worked with BMW in any capacity on a model with the heritage of the Supra. This should have been a pure Toyota ground up design. Supra name has too much brand equity.
I went to the car show in 80's as a small child and and my favorite car was the Supra. When I was in college a friend of mine had a 90's supra turbo and it was the best car I'd ever ridden in, so I have a high opinion of the Supra. In many ways I agree with you. I want the DNA of a Supra to be Toyota engineered down to the sheet metal, engine, and transmission. However, I still believe from a pure sports car perspective, this is the best Supra ever. I just view it as a Z4 you can take to the Toyota dealer for service.
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die hard ford mustang fan checking in - I love this look but the platform/general design is 15 years old now !!!
I am a convertible guy, I would love to see a Cobra in a convertible like the GT500 years ago
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I'm looking forward to the days when we no longer name engines things like "eco-boost".
Pure phaggotry.
Not to mention the reliability problems Ford had in Europe with nearly all of their ecoboost 4 cilinder engines. Poorly designed and lousy engineering, combined with little testing
Gsus that new Supra is one of the ugliest cars of recent years! Pointless, especially after potential buyers having to wait so many years
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Not to mention the reliability problems Ford had in Europe with nearly all of their ecoboost 4 cilinder engines. Poorly designed and lousy engineering, combined with little testing
Gsus that new Supra is one of the ugliest cars of recent years! Pointless, especially after potential buyers having to wait so many years
Fuel injected cars had problems when they first became main stream. Ford saw the benefits of turbo early and others followed. Turbo's are now commonplace with GM, Chrysler, Toyota, and Honda playing catch up.
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Fuel injected cars had problems when they first became main stream. Ford saw the benefits of turbo early and others followed. Turbo's are now commonplace with GM, Chrysler, Toyota, and Honda playing catch up.
Buick ( GM ) has been turbo charging cars since 1978 Chrysler in 1984 Toyota in 85
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Buick ( GM ) has been turbo charging cars since 1978 Chrysler in 1984 Toyota in 85
I'm not talking about one or two models. Every Ford model can be bought with a Turbo. They were the first to do it on a mass scale.
Obviously Saab was in the forefront of Turbos, but they weren't a mass market brand.
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There is no replacement for displacement. Fuck Japanese cars and fuck anything under 8 Cylinders!
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die hard ford mustang fan checking in - I love this look but the platform/general design is 15 years old now !!!
I am a convertible guy, I would love to see a Cobra in a convertible like the GT500 years ago
They've only had that type of styling since 2015.
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die hard ford mustang fan checking in - I love this look but the platform/general design is 15 years old now !!!
I am a convertible guy, I would love to see a Cobra in a convertible like the GT500 years ago
I've been around much longer than the Mustang and own one myself. This thing is now pile of shit Euro fugly. Ford can go fuck itself because they've fucked the Pony Car.
I would gladly take a level 2 SS Camaro convertible over any current version of the Mudstain. Fuck Ford.
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I've been around much longer than the Mustang and own one myself. This thing is now pile of shit Euro fugly. Ford can go fuck itself because they've fucked the Pony Car.
I would gladly take a level 2 SS Camaro convertible over any current version of the Mudstain. Fuck Ford.
WHY? Exterior or interior styling. I think the GT 500 looks great from the outside, but American cars really skimp on the interior .
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I work for volvo new s60 looks and will do well,price went up tho
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There is no replacement for displacement. Fuck Japanese cars and fuck anything under 8 Cylinders!
It's 2019, Ford makes a V6 that produces 500 HP and GM produces a 350 HP four cylinder. Contrary to what you believe, most people don't need over 300 hp to drive to work.
Honda and Toyota make wonderful vehicles.
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There is no replacement for displacement. Fuck Japanese cars and fuck anything under 8 Cylinders!
Sorry I disagree. Weight/Power ratio of the turbocharged modern engines is far superior to naturally aspirated. And I think the tech behind it makes it more interesting aswell. There is for reason that turbocharged engines are prefered in modern motorsports.
Corvettes are great cars though. I like how they figured out how to make a good light stiff chassis on the cheap to make it affordable. The carbon monocoq Ferraris are just not affordable.
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Sorry I disagree. Weight/Power ratio of the turbocharged modern engines is far superior to naturally aspirated. And I think the tech behind it makes it more interesting aswell. There is for reason that turbocharged engines are prefered in modern motorsports.
Corvettes are great cars though. I like how they figured out how to make a good light stiff chassis on the cheap to make it affordable. The carbon monocoq Ferraris are just not affordable.
Who says you can't turbocharge a V-8?
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Who says you can't turbocharge a V-8?
nobody. But that's not from the manufacturer. One problem is, the transmission/clutch is not spec'd for the additional power.
You can turbocharge a V12 Ferrari or Lamboaswell and some people do.
Here's a Swedish guy turbocharging his Lambo. He's having problems with the clutch because of the Power. He was also one of the first with a 1500HP Supra, built all by himself.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Pbjorck/videos
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I'm not talking about one or two models. Every Ford model can be bought with a Turbo. They were the first to do it on a mass scale.
Obviously Saab was in the forefront of Turbos, but they weren't a mass market brand.
At that time SAAB didn't have money to develop larger engines (V6 or V8) so they were forced to go for turbo charging I think. Which is excellent to keep weight down and low end torque up.