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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: pellius on January 30, 2019, 05:35:15 PM
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Doctor Anthony Levatino testifying before Congress. The first two minutes is enough.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4554570/dr-anthony-levatinos-testimony
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What the N.H.S. calls "emptying the womb. Such benign language.
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Killing babies.
Totally cool
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Horrific.
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I've been sickened enough just by hearing rational YouTubers reaction about this topic to not watch this.
Just so I'm understanding liberals right though, I'd like one to verify what I'm hearing please?
Border wall keeping out illegal trespassers who take away our tax dollars = IMMORAL
Infanticide = It's a woman's body & her prerogative
Do I have this right? ???
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I CHOOSE EXTRA QUARTER POUNDER OVER THE HEALTH OF A HOMELESS RUDE BEGGAR FLAUNTING THEIR PRIVATES!
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I've been sickened enough just by hearing rational YouTubers reaction about this topic to not watch this.
Just so I'm understanding liberals right though, I'd like one to verify what I'm hearing please?
Border wall keeping out illegal trespassers who take away our tax dollars = IMMORAL
Infanticide = It's a woman's body & her prerogative
Do I have this right? ???
Interesting times we live in.
A woman could be on the way to an abortion appointment and if she's hit by a wreckless driver and the accident causes her to lose the baby the driver can be charged with murder.
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Interesting times we live in.
A woman could be on the way to an abortion appointment and if she's hit by a wreckless driver and the accident causes her to lose the baby the driver can be charged with murder.
But if it was just a fender bender, and while exchanging info she went into labor then changer her mind about becoming the mother she could choke out the baby to terminate the "pregnancy" lawfully? Fuck this is confusing! :-\
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But if it was just a fender bender, and while exchanging info she went into labor then changer her mind about becoming the mother she could choke out the baby to terminate the "pregnancy" lawfully? Fuck this is confusing! :-\
Lol, but only if the choke out is a non banned and sanctioned mma choke hold.
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Lol, but only if the choke out is a non banned and sanctioned mma choke hold.
HAHAHA!!!!....clarification noted and filed! ;D
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Margret Sanger is smile, but at least she smiling somewhere in Hell where EVERY liberal that supported this should be
https://www.britannica.com/topic/infanticide
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But if it was just a fender bender, and while exchanging info she went into labor then changer her mind about becoming the mother she could choke out the baby to terminate the "pregnancy" lawfully? Fuck this is confusing! :-\
Are you even partway serious?
Teminations are only normally performed in the first trimester, so chances of going into labor are almost zero (given the foetus is under 12weeks old)
Chances of it survival if bornsix months premature, even less, so there is no need to choke it out, its DOA prety much.
Also, what part of choking a new born to death is lawful in any part of the world?
Hope this clarifies the confusion.
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Are you even partway serious?
Teminations are only normally performed in the first trimester, so chances of going into labor are almost zero (given the foetus is under 12weeks old)
Chances of it survival if bornsix months premature, even less, so there is no need to choke it out, its DOA prety much.
Also, what part of choking a new born to death is lawful in any part of the world?
Hope this clarifies the confusion.
Thanks for the clarification Doctor. You obviously have not seen the testimony they're talking about aborting babies at time of full development, 40 weeks. For the record babies are viable at 24 weeks.
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The most common argument is that they are aborted the child for its own sake. That they are saving it from a life of poverty and hardship because the mother cannot provide for the child. They are being selfless and making a huge sacrifice giving up their child for their own good.
What a bunch of bullshit! They aren't thinking of the child. They are thinking of their own life. What an inconvenience it would be to have to raise a child when you aren't ready to or planned to. Of course, that didn't stop you from having unprotected intercourse. It's a very selfish and immoral act.
There is currently an average wait of two years for potential parents wanting to adopt a child. There is a long waiting list of very competent and loving couples that would love to have your child. The wait is so long that many go to foreign countries to adopt. Countries in Asia and South America.
Adopted children on average do better than biological parents. This makes sense as anybody can have children. Not everybody can adopt a child. They go through a very rigorous screening process because the demand is so high and they are partly responsible for the welfare of the child and who they go to.
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Margret Sanger is smile, but at least she smiling somewhere in Hell where EVERY liberal that supported this should be
https://www.britannica.com/topic/infanticide
For someone who is quite well read/versed in science/chemistry as it pertains to health and fitness or at the very least bodybuilding. It puzzles me how intellectually lazy if not dishonest you are when it comes to political if not social issues. The Margaret Sanger nonsense has been debunked for the better part of a century.
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This is a picture of my mom's sister, Tita (aunt in tagalog) Virginia. She was an American baby adopted by my Lolo at Lola (grandparents) in Iloilo Province in the Philippines. This was during WW2 and the mother was a teenager who couldn't raise the child herself as the American soldier took off without a trace.
Despite having seven kids and being poor my Catholic grandparents took her in and raised her as one of their own Ortiz children.
She would later study to be a dentist and marry and have children of her own.
Choose life.
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Pedolust, your mere existence is enough to convince anybody that abortion as an option should always be on the table.
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Doctor Anthony Levatino testifying before Congress. The first two minutes is enough.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4554570/dr-anthony-levatinos-testimony
WTF Did I just watch & listen to.
And There are many who think this is right & civilised - Really.
Pulling a foetus/ baby out limb by limb :o
Or Sitting on the toilet on her own !!
Is there really no better more humane way to do this if it’s absolutely necessary.
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I've been sickened enough just by hearing rational YouTubers reaction about this topic to not watch this.
Just so I'm understanding liberals right though, I'd like one to verify what I'm hearing please?
Border wall keeping out illegal trespassers who take away our tax dollars = IMMORAL
Infanticide = It's a woman's body & her prerogative
Do I have this right? ???
These leftists are diseased ridden filth!
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The fact that God hasn't thrown the light switch shows that He really is merciful. But His patience is wearing thin.
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For someone who is quite well read/versed in science/chemistry as it pertains to health and fitness or at the very least bodybuilding. It puzzles me how intellectually lazy if not dishonest you are when it comes to political if not social issues. The Margaret Sanger nonsense has been debunked for the better part of a century.
Pretty sure you were the guy on the politics board who doesn't understand the difference between conception and semen...
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The fact that God hasn't thrown the light switch shows that He really is merciful. But His patience is wearing thin.
or more likely... he doesn't exist
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or more likely... he doesn't exist
He doesn't. People are deluding themselves if they think otherwise.
Any day now... Jesus is coming back to sort out all the goodies from the baddies and send the baddies to hell and take the goodies to heaven... yeah, sure he is - lol
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For someone who is quite well read/versed in science/chemistry as it pertains to health and fitness or at the very least bodybuilding. It puzzles me how intellectually lazy if not dishonest you are when it comes to political if not social issues. The Margaret Sanger nonsense has been debunked for the better part of a century.
Coach deals in debunked theories. That is the substance of the delusional world that he lives in.
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The most common argument is that they are aborted the child for its own sake. That they are saving it from a life of poverty and hardship because the mother cannot provide for the child. They are being selfless and making a huge sacrifice giving up their child for their own good.
How selfish... because we all know the Republicans will make sure that the child is fed, housed, educated and has health insurance.....
It's funny how the majority of people who claim to be Pro-Life are really just Pro-Birth. They want the kid born, but don't want the kid to have any chance at all of actually having a life. Food, education, good health... sorry can't have that. But hey... you were born so you can trudge through a hard life and poverty, so maybe you should thank us.
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Coach deals in debunked theories. That is the substance of the delusional world that he lives in.
Sure it was. Can’t remember the last time liberals were right on literally anything
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How selfish... because we all know the Republicans will make sure that the child is fed, housed, educated and has health insurance.....
It's funny how the majority of people who claim to be Pro-Life are really just Pro-Birth. They want the kid born, but don't want the kid to have any chance at all of actually having a life. Food, education, good health... sorry can't have that. But hey... you were born so you can trudge through a hard life and poverty, so maybe you should thank us.
A lot of your posts sound like you are very angry/bitter/life is not so good. Maybe you should be murdered? Extremely dumb argument. Yep, let's take a life because the child MIGHT have difficulties in life.
Guessing you've never heard of foster care, adoption, etc.
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Foster kids are usually mismanufactured units. The 'mothers' are full of alcohol and drugs, and not just for one birth. They do it over and over. There's a quiet factory at the bottom of society pumping out these FASD violent dimbulbs 24 hours a day.
No law against that, I guess. ::)
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How selfish... because we all know the Republicans will make sure that the child is fed, housed, educated and has health insurance.....
It's funny how the majority of people who claim to be Pro-Life are really just Pro-Birth. They want the kid born, but don't want the kid to have any chance at all of actually having a life. Food, education, good health... sorry can't have that. But hey... you were born so you can trudge through a hard life and poverty, so maybe you should thank us.
You are truly an idiot but at least we know you are for killing babies as well.
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Are you even partway serious?
Teminations are only normally performed in the first trimester, so chances of going into labor are almost zero (given the foetus is under 12weeks old)
Chances of it survival if bornsix months premature, even less, so there is no need to choke it out, its DOA prety much.
Also, what part of choking a new born to death is lawful in any part of the world?
Hope this clarifies the confusion.
Kannibal, I'm slightly right-leaning but I am very much an Independent. I am actually pro-choice regarding abortion.......but up to a rational fucking point! I think until the end of the 1st trimester is rational. HOWEVER, you need to probably watch the link, and do some searching as well on what's being by Dems cuz it's bananas bro. :'(
Dude, I'm not sure if the link posted by the OP is the same guy, but the name is familiar. I tried to find the clip I saw with Crowder discussing this over on his YT channel for you, but it must have been a segment ripped from one of his podcasts and posted on another tuber's channel.
This Dr., who I think is a politician as well is on video doing a radio interview about this bill. He's asked what if the child was out of the womb, and the umbilical cord was still attached? Would the bill allow that, and what is his opinion? He states that at that point the mother and Dr. could then have a conversation as to whether or not to terminate the "pregnancy" and that yes that would be OK.
Now do you think me and the other poster were being total morons regarding our banter, or that we were just trying to illustrate how absurd this bill(s) is(are)?
I respectfully would like to read your response. You can find the vids if you think I'm just a Trumptard and respond later, but that is what's being said. You really can just reply even as though I were typing something that was my own hypothetical situation.
SO....Based on my words you just read describing the Dr.'s opinion and that being ok, what is your opinion on that?
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A lot of your posts sound like you are very angry/bitter/life is not so good. Maybe you should be murdered? Extremely dumb argument. Yep, let's take a life because the child MIGHT have difficulties in life.
Guessing you've never heard of foster care, adoption, etc.
You are truly an idiot but at least we know you are for killing babies as well.
Guess you never heard of a woman doing what she wants with her body? Her choice. Not yours.
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Sure it was. Can’t remember the last time liberals were right on literally anything
Can't remember any time you were right on anything. But then again, can't expect too much from a birther.
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Guess you never heard of a woman doing what she wants with her body? Her choice. Not yours.
Lurker,
You can ignore the part I posted addressing Kannibal above your post I'm replying to here, but please read just the third section, and the question I asked him at the end and give your opinion on that.
You don't even have to watch anything. Just act as if that was my scenario I made up. Is that ok, and still a woman's choice on her body?
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Guess you never heard of a woman doing what she wants with her body? Her choice. Not yours.
A born baby is her body? ???
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Call it what you want, a baby is still getting killed. A human, a person is being deprived of life.
The legal term is 'unborn foetus'.
I'm not saying women should not have a choice, but it is what it is, killing a baby, depriving someone of their chance of life.
Personally, I could never do it.
Are the people who do this not haunted by guilt? Some people talk like it's no big deal at all, like human life is worth nothing and there is no true value to anything.
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Doctor Anthony Levatino testifying before Congress. The first two minutes is enough.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4554570/dr-anthony-levatinos-testimony
Liberals tout themselves as champions of the powerless...lol....yeah sure...I would certainly call a tiny, innocent baby powerless...
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Call it what you want, a baby is still getting killed. A human, a person is being deprived of life.
The legal term is 'unborn foetus'.
I'm not saying women should not have a choice, but it is what it is, killing a baby, depriving someone of their chance of life.
Personally, I could never do it.
Are the people who do this not haunted by guilt? Some people talk like it's no big deal at all, like human life is worth nothing and there is no true value to anything.
Forcing someone to have a child that is not ready, capable, or didn't want (rape/incest) to bring a child into the world seems much crueler to me knowing that child and the parent will likely suffer in some form.
It takes a sperm and an egg to create life. So if a couple takes precautions and still ends up pregnant, should they have no choice but to spend $250K+ (the reported avg.)raising a child they didn't want and/or weren't financially able to support the next 18+ yrs? Keep in mind, they're also not likely to be very good parents to something they resent/regret, and that child is likely going to know the parents feel that way.
What's your view on the morning after pill?
I know this is a shitty and kind of cruel analogy, but most would agree that a rose/pick your favorite flower is beautiful and vibrant once it has fully bloomed. If someone stomped and smashed a rose in front of you with their foot most peeps would likely think that person was an asshole. However, if the rose hadn't bloomed yet and a person broke the stem in half which killed the rose from blooming no one would give a shit 'cuz they never saw it's beauty anyway. Again, fucked up a bit, but you see what I'm getting at.
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How selfish... because we all know the Republicans will make sure that the child is fed, housed, educated and has health insurance.....
It's funny how the majority of people who claim to be Pro-Life are really just Pro-Birth. They want the kid born, but don't want the kid to have any chance at all of actually having a life. Food, education, good health... sorry can't have that. But hey... you were born so you can trudge through a hard life and poverty, so maybe you should thank us.
Just completely ignore the fact that there is a long waiting list for couples wanting to adopt new borns.
You prefer to kill them. Piece by piece if necessary.
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:P
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A born baby is her body? ???
A baby is born without her body?
Just completely ignore the fact that there is a long waiting list for couples wanting to adopt new borns.
You prefer to kill them. Piece by piece if necessary.
If that were the case, then why are orphanages still full of kids? Where's that long waiting list for couples?
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A baby is born without her body?
If that were the case, then why are orphanages still full of kids? Where's that long waiting list for couples?
Sigh...
There is a waiting list, my neighbor waited almost two years, to adopt a NEW BORN.
Please, Lurker, try to keep up.
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Forcing someone to have a child that is not ready, capable, or didn't want (rape/incest) to bring a child into the world seems much crueler to me knowing that child and the parent will likely suffer in some form.
It takes a sperm and an egg to create life. So if a couple takes precautions and still ends up pregnant, should they have no choice but to spend $250K+ (the reported avg.)raising a child they didn't want and/or weren't financially able to support the next 18+ yrs? Keep in mind, they're also not likely to be very good parents to something they resent/regret, and that child is likely going to know the parents feel that way.
What's your view on the morning after pill?
I know this is a shitty and kind of cruel analogy, but most would agree that a rose/pick your favorite flower is beautiful and vibrant once it has fully bloomed. If someone stomped and smashed a rose in front of you with their foot most peeps would likely think that person was an asshole. However, if the rose hadn't bloomed yet and a person broke the stem in half which killed the rose from blooming no one would give a shit 'cuz they never saw it's beauty anyway. Again, fucked up a bit, but you see what I'm getting at.
I'm not against people having the choice to have an abortion, and do not think it should be made illegal. I'm aware of the different individual circumstances and problems, and the reality of the world we live in.
Banning abortions would just lead to dangerous back-room abortions and other social problems.
However, the act of abortion should not be glossed over, it is what it is, the legal killing of a human, preventing a person from their chance of life.
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I'm not against people having the choice to have an abortion, and do not think it should be made illegal. I'm aware of the different individual circumstances and problems, and the reality of the world we live in.
Banning abortions would just lead to dangerous back-room abortions and other social problems.
However, the act of abortion should not be glossed over, it is what it is, the legal killing of a human, preventing a person from their chance of life.
Fair enough.
I admit I'm slightly conflicted about the when is it a human part though? I'm pro-choice for many of the same reasons you list, but I do think there's a line that needs to be drawn. I feel 3 months is more than enough time to not only realize a woman is pregnant, but to weigh out whether to have a child or not. I'm talking about clearly visible when I say this... but once you can see little hands and feet and the fetus changing positions then you're talking about yanking out an actual baby/human. I've never had a child so maybe that happens earlier than the end of 3 months? ???
This shit where this guy is on record saying it's ok for a woman and her Dr. to have a conversation about terminating the pregnancy while the baby is on the table with the umbilical cord still attached is just pure fucking evil. There is now visual and physical proof sitting right there that a new human has entered the world. Calling an actual murder an abortion is madness. >:( I've never gotten worked up, and taken sides or considered who I'd vote for based on abortion until this.
Thanks for the reply.
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Ultimately, and unfortunately, the requirement will be forced sterilizations.
Society cannot sustain a disproportionate amount of pregnancies/births from the garbage faction of humanity.
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Again, for the purposes of this discussion, we are talking about a third-trimester abortion. Where a viable fetus is able to live outside the mother all the way up until birth, is allowed to be put to death. Yes, put to death because it's alive and able to live outside the womb.
"My bill would allow that, yes."
https://www.liveaction.org/news/virginia-democrat-abortion-bill-labor/
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Pretty sure you were the guy on the politics board who doesn't understand the difference between conception and semen...
Pretty sure you are too stupid for words. Or at the very least, sarcasm is wasted on you.
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Pretty sure you are too stupid for words. Or at the very least, sarcasm is wasted on you.
Gotcha, so you were just too stupid multiple times over to reply to the question asked of you with something other than the wrong answer? You can always go back and do it.
At this point, all we know is that you don't know the difference, Dumbo. A lot of people are sarcastic to deflect from lack of understanding when they are caught having infantile knowledge on a subject. You are just one of many, Bud.
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Gotcha, so you were just too stupid multiple times over to reply to the question asked of you with something other than the wrong answer? You can always go back and do it.
At this point, all we know is that you don't know the difference, Dumbo. A lot of people are sarcastic to deflect from lack of understanding when they are caught having infantile knowledge on a subject. You are just one of many, Bud.
I actually feel empathy for you.
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Sigh...
There is a waiting list, my neighbor waited almost two years, to adopt a NEW BORN.
Please, Lurker, try to keep up.
The number of kids in orphanages, foster homes and adoption centers are vastly greater than any "waiting list". How long your neighbor had to wait means nothing. What's the matter? They would not consider anything other than a NEW BORN? "Please try to keep up"
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The number of kids in orphanages, foster homes and adoption centers are vastly greater than any "waiting list". How long your neighbor had to wait means nothing. What's the matter? They would not consider anything other than a NEW BORN? "Please try to keep up"
It may seem strange to you but a married couple would vastly prefer adopting a baby than someone older. The reasons are many. One would be to have the full experience of raising a child from an infant to adulthood. Also, there is a greater likelihood that there may be more personal and emotional issues to deal with when dealing with a child from a foster home or orphanage. You may consider this selfish but the choice isn't about a baby and an orphan child but a baby and death. It would be great if everyone was so generous and tolerant that they would adopt all the children in foster homes and orphanages.
To claim that a long waiting list means nothing shows your ignorance in the basic principle of supply and demand. The reason why they had to wait so long was because the demand is so high. There were a lot of couples ahead of them. Not killing a fetus would increase the supply of babies to adopt.
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$17,000 for an abortion at 9 months. At about 4:00. she trolls a late-term abortion center:
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$17,000 for an abortion at 9 months. At about 4:00. she trolls a late-term abortion center:
I'm not gonna lie. I came close to crying around the 10 minute mark when the ultrasound was being done, and she started describing her baby...movement, smiling, yawning, expressions.....wow. Very powerful!
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Again, for the purposes of this discussion, we are talking about a third-trimester abortion. Where a viable fetus is able to live outside the mother all the way up until birth, is allowed to be put to death. Yes, put to death because it's alive and able to live outside the womb.
"My bill would allow that, yes."
https://www.liveaction.org/news/virginia-democrat-abortion-bill-labor/
Thank you for posting this. I had already seen the crazy woman's testimony. I scrolled down expecting that Dr. LeVatino's video was going to be the guy I mentioned in one of my first posts that Crowder had the clip of him saying a baby out of the womb with umbilical cord attached was still ok to have a conversation with the mother about terminating the pregnancy at that point. It appears he is the same guy mentioned in the OP's post that I refused to watch.
After clicking your link and watching his vid, I realized I was wrong. I went back and watched the OP's link (it was tough to listen to), and Dr. LeVatino is clearly against this and went to great lengths to graphically detail how sickening an abortion was just in the second trimester let alone the third. The video he showed to the court/congress with a girl inquiring if she could get an abortion, and the staff instructions along with them almost chuckling at points makes me wonder how someone spends money for school to be a nurse or a Dr., and ends up doing this for a living without being a purely evil piece of shit. It just can't be possible they are good humans with any morality whatsoever. Unfortunately, those people weren't aborted before they could grow up to become monsters. Fortunately, there is a special place in hell for them when they are wiped off of this Earth......hopefully, in a very slow, tortuous, and painful manner in which their suffering is only a tiny pre-cursor to what they realize as they die will be their eternal afterlife.
I apologize for thinking and stating that this was the same guy I was mentioning. I didn't want to view the O.P.'s link 'cuz I thought it was. I wish I could find the Crowder clip with the correct guy that said those horrible things. Not that it matters as you post, and Megaladon's on the next page should say enough. I don't advocate for violence normally, but I hope that person's life is completely destroyed.... whoever he is. If it happens to be the result of a violent attack and torture that seems fair, and I'd happily look the other way.
It's clear that after a few of us have now pointed, posted quotes, article links, comics, and videos about what was/is really being said that those who were totally following liberal leader's rhetoric when stating they were ok with this bill are either really fucked up and refuse to read anything rational or factual, or they've read and/or watched it all come out and are too embarrassed to admit they are sickened as well, and are totally opposed to what these bills would really allow. I hope it's the latter of the two.
Like I said earlier, this is the first time in my life abortion as ever been a trigger issue for me, and as an independent it will absolutely be something I look into each candidate's position on before voting in 2020. I'm still pro-choice, but not this kind of choice :'(
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Thank you for posting this. I had already seen the crazy woman's testimony. I scrolled down expecting that Dr. LeVatino's video was going to be the guy I mentioned in one of my first posts that Crowder had the clip of him saying a baby out of the womb with umbilical cord attached was still ok to have a conversation with the mother about terminating the pregnancy at that point. It appears he is the same guy mentioned in the OP's post that I refused to watch.
After clicking your link and watching his vid, I realized I was wrong. I went back and watched the OP's link (it was tough to listen to), and Dr. LeVatino is clearly against this and went to great lengths to graphically detail how sickening an abortion was just in the second trimester let alone the third. The video he showed to the court/congress with a girl inquiring if she could get an abortion, and the staff instructions along with them almost chuckling at points makes me wonder how someone spends money for school to be a nurse or a Dr., and ends up doing this for a living without being a purely evil piece of shit. It just can't be possible they are good humans with any morality whatsoever. Unfortunately, those people weren't aborted before they could grow up to become monsters. Fortunately, there is a special place in hell for them when they are wiped off of this Earth......hopefully, in a very slow, tortuous, and painful manner in which their suffering is only a tiny pre-cursor to what they realize as they die will be their eternal afterlife.
I apologize for thinking and stating that this was the same guy I was mentioning. I didn't want to view the O.P.'s link 'cuz I thought it was. I wish I could find the Crowder clip with the correct guy that said those horrible things. Not that it matters as you post, and Megaladon's on the next page should say enough. I don't advocate for violence normally, but I hope that person's life is completely destroyed.... whoever he is. If it happens to be the result of a violent attack and torture that seems fair, and I'd happily look the other way.
It's clear that after a few of us have now pointed, posted quotes, article links, comics, and videos about what was/is really being said that those who were totally following liberal leader's rhetoric when stating they were ok with this bill are either really fucked up and refuse to read anything rational or factual, or they've read and/or watched it all come out and are too embarrassed to admit they are sickened as well, and are totally opposed to what these bills would really allow. I hope it's the latter of the two.
Like I said earlier, this is the first time in my life abortion as ever been a trigger issue for me, and as an independent it will absolutely be something I look into each candidate's position on before voting in 2020. I'm still pro-choice, but not this kind of choice :'(
Do you mean the comments made by Virginia Democratic Governor, Ralph Northham, where he said that if or when the infant is delivered it would be kept "comfortable" (how compassionate) lying there on the table as the physician and mother would have a "discussion" whether or not to keep the baby alive or to crush it's skull right there as the newborn infant lies "comfortably" on the table waiting for its ultimate fate to be determined?
The moral confusion on the Left knows no bounds. PETA likens the killing of chickens to the Holocaust. My brother, currently stationed in Germany, had a recent problem with a rat. He wanted to buy one of those snap traps. He was told they don't sell that and that he is supposed to buy a trap that catches the rat alive and then he has to take it outside and set it free in any location he chooses. Presumably one more remote from his actual residence.
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Do you mean the comments made by Virginia Democratic Governor, Ralph Northham, where he said that if or when the infant is delivered it would be kept "comfortable" (how compassionate) lying there on the table as the physician and mother would have a "discussion" whether or not to keep the baby alive or to crush it's skull right there as the newborn infant lies "comfortably" on the table waiting for its ultimate fate to be determined?
The moral confusion on the Left knows no bounds. PETA likens the killing of chickens to the Holocaust. My brother, currently stationed in Germany, had a recent problem with a rat. He wanted to buy one of those snap traps. He was told they don't sell that and that he is supposed to buy a trap that catches the rat alive and then he has to take it outside and set it free in any location he chooses. Presumably one more remote from his actual residence.
Thank you again Pellius! That is exactly the evil fucker I was talking about, and the exact clip Crowder showed in his video!
Notice how even the liberal media host.....a woman....cringes her eyes, and looks him up and down as he gets to that part of his answer as if she's thinking "what kind of sick psychopath are you?" Voices can lie, the eyes and body language are hard to disguise one's true thoughts.
I am going to try and find a longer version of this tomorrow, now that you provided his name. I want to see if this woman reacted from a human and motherly instinct that is biologically inherent, or if she just did her job and towed the company line?
Thanks again!
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$17,000 for an abortion at 9 months. At about 4:00. she trolls a late-term abortion center:
Not interested in watching the video but hard to deny this broad has a great set of tits. In the spirit of Big Mike Cox - Raw, No Condom, No Pull Out!
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It may seem strange to you but a married couple would vastly prefer adopting a baby than someone older. The reasons are many. One would be to have the full experience of raising a child from an infant to adulthood. Also, there is a greater likelihood that there may be more personal and emotional issues to deal with when dealing with a child from a foster home or orphanage. You may consider this selfish but the choice isn't about a baby and an orphan child but a baby and death. It would be great if everyone was so generous and tolerant that they would adopt all the children in foster homes and orphanages.
To claim that a long waiting list means nothing shows your ignorance in the basic principle of supply and demand. The reason why they had to wait so long was because the demand is so high. There were a lot of couples ahead of them. Not killing a fetus would increase the supply of babies to adopt.
That right there indicates why they had to wait so long. Certainly not because the demand for adoption was so high that adoption centers and foster homes were sitting empty. Their 2 year wait was due to them being picky, not because there was a "waiting list". They could have adopted a 2, 3, or 10 year old.
My statement stands on it's merit. If they had to wait so long, it is by their own doing and not because there was no other choices. Pretty nice that people want do adopt cuddly little new borns but yet don't give a shit when it comes to feeding, educating, or insuring the others who are simply older.
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I actually feel empathy for you.
Lol, embarrassingly dumb.
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Abortions will happen, regardless of them being legal or illegal. Best to keep them safe, legal, and rare IMO.
It would be nice to see more funding providing no-cost birth control to everyone.
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That right there indicates why they had to wait so long. Certainly not because the demand for adoption was so high that adoption centers and foster homes were sitting empty. Their 2 year wait was due to them being picky, not because there was a "waiting list". They could have adopted a 2, 3, or 10 year old.
My statement stands on it's merit. If they had to wait so long, it is by their own doing and not because there was no other choices. Pretty nice that people want do adopt cuddly little new borns but yet don't give a shit when it comes to feeding, educating, or insuring the others who are simply older.
Wrong. They're choice is adopting a newborn.
You may call them " picky" for wanting a newborn but so what? The issue here is why kill a fetus when it can easily be adopted? You prefer having the option of killing a viable fetus, ripping it out limb by limb if necessary. Crushing its skull as it lays (comfortably) on a table. I get that. There's a lot of people like you. You think it's selfish that couples want to adopt "cuddly little new borns". We think it's selfish, and evil, that you want to kill them.
That's why we fight.
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Abortions will happen, regardless of them being legal or illegal. Best to keep them safe, legal, and rare IMO.
It would be nice to see more funding providing no-cost birth control to everyone.
That applies to EVERYTHING!
Murder still happens even though it's illegal.
When you make something legal and acceptable you get more of it.
What a society allows, what it deems legal and acceptable, is a testament on what kind of society and culture it is.
There are/were societies and cultures that allowed for human sacrifices. We consider those primitive and barbaric.
What kind of society do you want to live in?
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Wrong. They're choice is adopting a newborn.
You may call them " picky" for wanting a newborn but so what? The issue here is why kill a fetus when it can easily be adopted? You prefer having the option of killing a viable fetus, ripping it out limb by limb if necessary. Crushing its skull as it lays (comfortably) on a table. I get that. There's a lot of people like you. You think it's selfish that couples want to adopt "cuddly little new borns". We think it's selfish, and evil, that you want to kill them.
That's why we fight.
Wrong. They waited so long because they were picky. Not because there was not an overwhelming alternative selection at the adoption homes. So don't cry about some kind of "waiting list" while trying to downplay the fact that there are tons of other kids in the system waiting for parents. What happened to those fetus? Where were the waiting list for those years ago?
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Wrong. They waited so long because they were picky. Not because there was not an overwhelming alternative selection at the adoption homes. So don't cry about some kind of "waiting list" while trying to downplay the fact that there are tons of other kids in the system waiting for parents. What happened to those fetus? Where were the waiting list for those years ago?
Didn't you read my post? Yes, couples are picky as to whom they want to raise and support for their entire lives. So what? But again, and please pay attention, the choice is not between a newborn and a child in an orphanage, but a newborn and death. That's a choice and option the couple wants. Why kill a newborn when there are tons of "picky" couples waiting to adopt them?
Again, you think these couples are selfish and picky for choosing to adopt a newborn instead of someone in an orphanage. We think you are selfish and evil for preferring these viable fetuses to be murdered (define as the premeditated taking of an innocent human life).
I am not looking for agreement. Just clarity. We already know what side you are on. You know what side I am on. Neither of us are going to change our minds. You're on the Left and I'm on the Right. I want people to see what the two sides represent and let them decide for themselves.
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Didn't you read my post? Yes, couples are picky as to whom they want to raise and support for their entire lives. So what? But again, and please pay attention, the choice is not between a newborn and a child in an orphanage, but a newborn and death. That's a choice and option the couple wants. Why kill a newborn when there are tons of "picky" couples waiting to adopt them?
Again, you think these couples are selfish and picky for choosing to adopt a newborn instead of someone in an orphanage. We think you are selfish and evil for preferring these viable fetuses to be murdered (define and the premeditated taking of an innocent human life).
I am not looking for agreement. Just clarity. We already know what side you are on. You know what side I am on. Neither of us are going to change our minds. You're on the Left and I'm on the Right. I want people to see what the two sides represent and let them decide for themselves.
Pellius, you're arguing with someone who believes in infanticide. Don't waste your time.
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Pellius, you're arguing with someone who believes in infanticide. Don't waste your time.
I do it because I think it's important to present and clarify the positions. People don't really think issues through. Liberal ideology presents well in catchphrases. Like "guns kill". If we get rid of guns there would be no shootings.
When you take it at face valued that's true. But when forced to think about it is it realistic to think you can eliminate guns from the planet?
Most people don't really consider what actually goes on in a late-term abortion.
They are so far removed from it. It's the "women's choice" makes sense on the surface.
The left always wants to obscure, obfuscate, and redirect the argument. Note how he brings up the completely separate issue of orphanages and foster homes when the choice is between newborns and death. He wants to diminish potential parents as being "too picky" but obscure the very real act of killing them instead.
I just want people to see that.
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I do it because I think it's important to present and clarify the positions. People don't really think issues through. Liberal ideology presents well in catchphrases. Like "guns kill". If we get rid of guns there would be no shootings.
When you take it at face valued that's true. But when forced to think about it is it realistic to think you can eliminate guns from the planet?
Most people don't really consider what actually goes on in a late-term abortion.
They are so far removed from it. It's the "women's choice" makes sense on the surface.
The left always wants to obscure, obfuscate, and redirect the argument. Note how he brings up the completely separate issue of orphanages and foster homes when the choice is between newborns and death. He wants to diminish potential parents as being "too picky" but obscure the very real act of killing them instead.
I just want people to see that.
Understood.
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Didn't you read my post?
Didn't you read my post?
I am disputing your claim that people are waiting for years to adopt because of a "waiting list". No, they are waiting because they are being picky. Not because there are no other options or alternatives for them.
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I can get you a white baby in 24 hours, baby.
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You don’t get much more fucked up than this...
https://www.lifenews.com/2019/01/31/legislator-behind-bill-legalizing-abortions-up-to-birth-filed-bill-to-save-caterpillars-the-same-day/
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Didn't you read my post?
I am disputing your claim that people are waiting for years to adopt because of a "waiting list". No, they are waiting because they are being picky. Not because there are no other options or alternatives for them.
Didn't you understand my post? You think couples are being selfish for wanting a newborn that is going to be murdered.
You prefer the newborn be murdered. You talk as if couples only adopted orphans we would no longer have newborns to kill.
That's one luxury we have on the Right. We can just say what we believe plainly and without shame. The Left has to obfuscate, redirect, and sugar coat their believe.
You support the killing of a newborn lying, " comfortably" on a table rather than having "picky" parents adopt them. Am I right or wrong?
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The left always wants to obscure, obfuscate, and redirect the argument. Note how he brings up the completely separate issue of orphanages and foster homes
I just want people to see that.
he didn't "redirect the argument" you idiot. you were the one that brought up adoption and waiting lists.
You talk as if couples only adopted orphans we would no longer have newborns to kill.
no he's not, he said if adopting couples weren't so choosy there wouldn't be waiting lists for adoption
you're as thick as sht pedogook.
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This "Black Pilled" video breaks down Ciderhouse Rules and does a great job showing how Hollywood made knifing your offspring empowering to the same people whose numbers are now declining(wonder how that happened?) and are currently passively undergoing an orchestrated replacement throughout Europe. Meanwhile, Israel begins construction of a new Gaza border barrier which Americans are funding in lieu of their own border because "walls are immoral" and "walls don't work" slogans work on the hypnotized(link). How foolish, manipulated, and self-destructive can people of European descent continue to be?
https://www.france24.com/en/20190203-israel-begins-construction-new-gaza-border-barrier (https://www.france24.com/en/20190203-israel-begins-construction-new-gaza-border-barrier)
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he didn't "redirect the argument" you idiot. you were the one that brought up adoption and waiting lists.
Exactly! Oh.... they have to wait two years because they are so picky and only want to adopt a certain kind at a certain age.... Let's just ignore the others that are a different kind and different age... and just focus on the WAITING LIST because by golly that is all the matters. This is not a waiting list before a kid enters the system and is able to be adopted... there are plenty there... it's a waiting list for people with specific criteria because they are PICKY.... (probably why God decided they shouldn't reproduce in the first place)
It's like if I went down to the pound and was hell bent on only getting a newborn husky with blue eyes. If there was none, then when I got home everyone asked "did you get anything?" and I'm like "no they didn't have anything." They had plenty. Just because they didn't have what I want doesn't mean the shelter was empty.
As far as the laughable statement "That's one luxury we have on the Right. We can just say what we believe plainly and without shame. The Left has to obfuscate, redirect, and sugar coat their believe." This only shows how delusional the argument from pellius really is.
Again, all these conservatives want to whine about being pro life, but they are really only pro birth. Once the birth is over, they don't want to feed, educate or insure those infants that fall through the cracks.
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Exactly! Oh.... they have to wait two years because they are so picky and only want to adopt a certain kind at a certain age.... Let's just ignore the others that are a different kind and different age... and just focus on the WAITING LIST because by golly that is all the matters. This is not a waiting list before a kid enters the system and is able to be adopted... there are plenty there... it's a waiting list for people with specific criteria because they are PICKY.... (probably why God decided they shouldn't reproduce in the first place)
It's like if I went down to the pound and was hell bent on only getting a newborn husky with blue eyes. If there was none, then when I got home everyone asked "did you get anything?" and I'm like "no they didn't have anything." They had plenty. Just because they didn't have what I want doesn't mean the shelter was empty.
As far as the laughable statement "That's one luxury we have on the Right. We can just say what we believe plainly and without shame. The Left has to obfuscate, redirect, and sugar coat their believe." This only shows how delusional the argument from pellius really is.
Again, all these conservatives want to whine about being pro life, but they are really only pro birth. Once the birth is over, they don't want to feed, educate or insure those infants that fall through the cracks.
Don't want to take care of children after they are born? What do you call orphanages and foster homes? And you, the Left, obfuscate the issue. No one reading this honesty believes my focus is on any waiting list. It is on the killing of newborns and fetuses. You are being patently dishonest.
But at least I've been able to clearly establish your position on this issue and allow others to see how you and I reason and come to our beliefs.
I leave it to others to come to their own conclusion as the newborn lies "comfortably" on a table as we have a discussion if we want it to live or crush its skull with a pair of medical pliers. I'm sure it will be done with maximal comfort to the newborn child.
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You don’t get much more fucked up than this...
https://www.lifenews.com/2019/01/31/legislator-behind-bill-legalizing-abortions-up-to-birth-filed-bill-to-save-caterpillars-the-same-day/
Someone needs to make a meme out of that pic of her in the article looking at her notes/book that says, "Priorities: Sometimes even your notes are in the wrong order"
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Jerk fireman saving people and not buying/providing them a new house. Should just let the people die or hold their heads in the fumes until they suffocate.
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This is gonna sound insane, as I am conservative as fuck in almost every plausible way, but I am actually pro choice up until a certain point. I would say anything after 20 weeks seems excessive, as the mother has literally had 5 fucking months to think about it! The only exceptions to this rule should be if she finds out her pregnancy could possibly be dangerous to her own life. If that is the case, she should be able to have the abortion is soon as the doctor deems it dangerous to her own life, regardless to how late it is in the pregnancy. As I view the mothers life to be more important to someone unborn.
In all other cases, the mother should know the FULL details of what is going to occur to her child, and how much horrific pain they will be in! As I highly doubt that the majority of late term abortions are done because of risk to the mother. More likely it is because she is scared to be a single mother and have no money. Just give birth and put it up for adoption! If the baby is from a white mother who isn't a crack whore, you will have hundreds of familys begging to adopt your child.
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This is gonna sound insane, as I am conservative as fuck in almost every plausible way, but I am actually pro choice up until a certain point. I would say anything after 20 weeks seems excessive, as the mother has literally had 5 fucking months to think about it! The only exceptions to this rule should be if she finds out her pregnancy could possibly be dangerous to her own life. If that is the case, she should be able to have the abortion is soon as the doctor deems it dangerous to her own life, regardless to how late it is in the pregnancy. As I view the mothers life to be more important to someone unborn.
In all other cases, the mother should know the FULL details of what is going to occur to her child, and how much horrific pain they will be in! As I highly doubt that the majority of late term abortions are done because of risk to the mother. More likely it is because she is scared to be a single mother and have no money. Just give birth and put it up for adoption! If the baby is from a white mother who isn't a crack whore, you will have hundreds of familys begging to adopt your child.
If you read the fucking thread first you'd might not have thought that.....just sayin :P
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If you read the fucking thread first you'd might not have thought that.....just sayin :P
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I expressed the same view multiple times. Other known conservatives on here have also stated it should remain legal for their own reasons in this thread, but that this is going way overboard.
One thing I've learned since I started posting again last week is the newer get biggers definitely do not enjoy reading thought out posts. Definitely conditioned by social media and texting. Oh well.....times change. :'(