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Title: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 05, 2019, 08:39:16 PM
I thought it was a great speech.  He cut down on a good amount of the hyperbole he gets shit for. (rightfully so)  I literally LOL'd when he said "hold on....because you're really gonna love this", and "thank you, you weren't supposed to do that...." when talking about female jobs and the liberal left women applauded.....he knew they had no choice  Brilliantly done.

More than anything I really want to know what Straw Man and others on the left think not only about Abrams' rebuttal, but the choice of her as the voice for the Dems?
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 05, 2019, 08:56:38 PM
Might go down as one of the best ever.

“We will never be a socialist country”

Not one dem stood up for applause
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 05, 2019, 09:17:29 PM
Might go down as one of the best ever.

“We will never be a socialist country”

Not one dem stood up for applause

Hey Coach!  Remember our little chat about poll numbers after being telling.  Boom lefty bitches......str8 from CBS https://mobile.twitter.com/cbseveningnews/status/1092996857507311616

CBS Evening News
CBS Evening News
@CBSEveningNews
CBS NEWS POLL: 76 percent of viewers approved of what they heard in Pres. Trump's #SOTU speech; 72 percent said they approved of Pres. Trump's ideas for immigration.



But, but, but......"60% of America is against the wall"
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 05, 2019, 09:19:06 PM
Might go down as one of the best ever.

“We will never be a socialist country”

Not one dem stood up for applause

Forgot to add......not in The House, but they sure as fuck did in their house. 8)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: chaos on February 05, 2019, 09:40:53 PM
Patiently waiting for the getlibs thoughts on the sotu.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 05, 2019, 10:14:29 PM
You literally have to be full of hate to disagree with anything he said.  He was rational, encouraging, candid, funny, and to the point.  The last time I can remember the entire audience end up chanting USA in unison multiple times was after 9/11.  

I'm sure libs will find a clip, but I have also never seen everyone bust out singing happy birthday to Jewish person during a SOTU speech either.  As divisive as he supposedly is, that was the most unifying speech I can remember a POTUS giving, sans an attack or war.

#He'sMyPresident 8)


Dems better find them tapes real quick or 2020 is in the bag.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 05, 2019, 10:20:27 PM
Hey Coach!  Remember our little chat about poll numbers after being telling.  Boom lefty bitches......str8 from CBS https://mobile.twitter.com/cbseveningnews/status/1092996857507311616

CBS Evening News
CBS Evening News
@CBSEveningNews
CBS NEWS POLL: 76 percent of viewers approved of what they heard in Pres. Trump's #SOTU speech; 72 percent said they approved of Pres. Trump's ideas for immigration.



But, but, but......"60% of America is against the wall"

Hahaha, this is freaking AWESOME!!!!!
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 05, 2019, 10:37:03 PM
All I know is Nancy is going to suck her face off her skull biting her lip like that.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 06, 2019, 03:37:15 AM
Might go down as one of the best ever.

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Not one dem stood up for applause

I was like MIC DROP bitch!

Boo-yeah!!!!
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 06, 2019, 04:57:21 AM
Why were all those witches dressed in white? 
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 06, 2019, 06:20:24 AM
Nuff said

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(https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/nancy-pelosi-donald-trump-clap-state-of-the-union.jpg?quality=85)

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/o1Z8C3rAy0S48Oj1qKZZl6CHIFI=/0x0:4920x3280/920x613/filters:focal(1834x1553:2620x2339):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63004556/GettyImages_1094206078.0.jpg)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Grape Ape on February 06, 2019, 06:39:57 AM
Seems to me like the Dems had some bad form last night.

Not clapping for the low unemployment for minorities, the ICE agent etc.

But they celebrated themselves clapping for women.

All the Dems have to do to win, IMO, is not be crazy, and that's not happening.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 06, 2019, 06:59:59 AM
Seems to me like the Dems had some bad form last night.

Not clapping for the low unemployment for minorities, the ICE agent etc.

But they celebrated themselves clapping for women.

All the Dems have to do to win, IMO, is not be crazy, and that's not happening.

All Dems are crazy....just kidding, all women are crazy...just kidding, just American women...just kidding.   :)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Dos Equis on February 06, 2019, 10:10:38 AM
I was in the air so missed the speech, but I read the transcript.  Then read the predictable headlines and stories.  I don't know how it was delivered, but the text of the speech was great. 

Lots of people watched:

Donald Trump’s Long Second State Of The Union Rises In Ratings Over 2018 & Obama
by Dominic Patten
February 6, 2019
https://deadline.com/2019/02/state-of-the-union-ratings-cable-broadcast-donald-trump-address-1202550542/
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Dos Equis on February 06, 2019, 10:12:01 AM
All Dems are crazy....just kidding, all women are crazy...just kidding, just American women...just kidding.   :)

They are.  It's just about what level of crazy they might be.  Funniest analysis ever:

Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 06, 2019, 10:41:55 AM
Nuff said

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/02/06/USAT/595a3acb-fb60-410c-ab19-eac562375e41-XXX_20190205__APS_USA_028.JPG?crop=4660,3512,x200,y0&width=540&height=&fit=bounds&auto=webp)

(https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/nancy-pelosi-donald-trump-clap-state-of-the-union.jpg?quality=85)

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/o1Z8C3rAy0S48Oj1qKZZl6CHIFI=/0x0:4920x3280/920x613/filters:focal(1834x1553:2620x2339):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63004556/GettyImages_1094206078.0.jpg)

Look at that C U N T AOC in the bottom pic and tell me she's not thinking "well yeah, I'm ground breaking and all over the news"

Trash bitch!
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 06, 2019, 10:46:26 AM
Why were all those witches dressed in white? 

I watched on CBS, and when the news lady was explaining that before Trump came in I just thought "what a stupid choice when the main story right now is about a Governor in your party either in blackface or a KKK outfit"  If it wasn't for the fact that Pelosi was leading them, it would be shocking.

Did anyone else catch that there seemed to be some hand and facial gestures by Pelosi that correlated to when the Dems would stand and sit....specifically the women in white?
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 06, 2019, 11:07:36 AM
Seems to me like the Dems had some bad form last night.

Not clapping for the low unemployment for minorities, the ICE agent etc.

But they celebrated themselves clapping for women.

All the Dems have to do to win, IMO, is not be crazy, and that's not happening.
Trump totally had them confused.  He would say something that they had to cheer and then immediately pivot to something they were against and they would sit down.  Example: More women than ever in Congress followed by aborting live babies in NY and Virginia. They looked like a jack in the box while staring at Pelosi to give them the sign to stand and cheer or not.  Totally mind numbed robots.  When Trump said America would never be a socialist country Crazy Bernie looked really butt hurt and angry.

Trump showed why he is so successful in business, real estate and politics.  These dipshits in government who think they are so smart couldn't outsmart Trump on their best day.  The meltdowns from the left all day long have been a joy to watch.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Straw Man on February 06, 2019, 11:17:16 AM
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Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 06, 2019, 11:18:39 AM
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I'm sure you loved the speech.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Straw Man on February 06, 2019, 11:20:46 AM
I'm sure you loved the speech.

As a Trumptard I'm sure you actually believe that

Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 06, 2019, 11:38:08 AM
As a Trumptard I'm sure you actually believe that


No, I know you were probably crying like a baby during the speech.  I loved the speech as well as imagining your reaction.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 06, 2019, 11:48:52 AM
As a Trumptard I'm sure you actually believe that



Considering he's followed through on his promises...yeah, we actually believe that which is the main reason why Dems hate him. That speech was a BIG fuck you to the entire Democratic party so you just keep on quoting fat washed up comics. You're in the 24% minority. Hope this helps!
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Straw Man on February 06, 2019, 11:51:55 AM
No, I know you were probably crying like a baby during the speech.  I loved the speech as well as imagining your reaction.

you spend time IMAGINING my reaction to a speech

jesus christ you're a fucking weirdo
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Straw Man on February 06, 2019, 11:56:18 AM
Considering he's followed through on his promises...yeah, we actually believe that which is the main reason why Dems hate him. That speech was a BIG fuck you to the entire Democratic party so you just keep on quoting fat washed up comics. You're in the 24% minority. Hope this helps!

It cracks me up that Trumptards suddenly start celebrating "speeches"

Your favorite Republican pollster still has Trumptard at a negative 7% Presidential Approval Index

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_feb06
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 06, 2019, 01:04:32 PM
you spend time IMAGINING my reaction to a speech

jesus christ you're a fucking weirdo
Cry a little more, bitch. :-*
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 06, 2019, 01:30:52 PM
They are.  It's just about what level of crazy they might be.  Funniest analysis ever:



Hysterical!  ;D  Thanks for sharing this Dos Equis.

So true.  I though it was funny the moment he said "based on my 40 years of experience".  Then he gets to the "unicorns" which I thought was the grand finale....

Relating this to the SOTU, this vid really explains why Stacey Abrams is a single woman with no children who for some reason is obsessed with women's right to choose.....her level of crazy keeps her thinking she still has a chance at finding a man that will marry and reproduce with her.  ::) YT is very educational.  It is today's new PBS.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 06, 2019, 01:42:11 PM
It cracks me up that Trumptards suddenly start celebrating "speeches"

Your favorite Republican pollster still has Trumptard at a negative 7% Presidential Approval Index

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_feb06

I worked doing polls for 3 years.  Maybe you should look into the methodology a little more so you can see how flawed it is, especially in today's society.  And don't blame me, cuz you're the dipshit that just picked this as your source for info.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/about_us/methodology
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 06, 2019, 01:44:02 PM
It cracks me up that Trumptards suddenly start celebrating "speeches"

Your favorite Republican pollster still has Trumptard at a negative 7% Presidential Approval Index

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_feb06

Seek help and medication. 
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 06, 2019, 01:55:02 PM
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/CBS-State-of-the-Union-Poll-By-Party-Approval-02062019.jpg)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 06, 2019, 02:13:22 PM
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/CBS-State-of-the-Union-Poll-By-Party-Approval-02062019.jpg)

So for every 300 people, 209 Approve of the POTUS' SOTU speech.  69.66r%  Again, I'm puzzled.  But, but, but.....MSM said "60% of America is against the wall" ???

This math is not adding up.  It's a bust! ;)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 06, 2019, 02:44:37 PM
So for every 300 people, 209 Approve of the POTUS' SOTU speech.  69.66r%  Again, I'm puzzled.  But, but, but.....MSM said "60% of America is against the wall" ???

This math is not adding up.  It's a bust! ;)

I personally love that the Democrat Speaker is acting like the alzheimers suffering nursing home patient who somehow escaped the facility.

In the end, her "leadership" just ensures that I get to bed earlier as Trump steamrolls come election night 2020.

We were supposed to have this massive Democrat field of nominees throwing their hat in the ring but so far it has been rather tepid, I must admit.

And why are there not more nominees throwing their hat into the ring?

Because at the end of the day they simply don't want none.

Trump would bury every last one of those lightweights with the simplest of ease.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: illuminati on February 06, 2019, 02:59:25 PM
Seek help and medication. 

He’s beyond any of that being of use to him
The way Donald is going strawforBrains will be found
Curled up in the foetal position somewhere Crying & jibbering incoherently

He already cries & jibbers on here nonstop  ::) Pathetic to say the least.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 06, 2019, 04:03:23 PM
I guess the boo-boo faces in white were trying to make some sort of statement, but they just looked like a bunch of sourpusses.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Dos Equis on February 06, 2019, 04:06:47 PM
Hysterical!  ;D  Thanks for sharing this Dos Equis.

So true.  I though it was funny the moment he said "based on my 40 years of experience".  Then he gets to the "unicorns" which I thought was the grand finale....

Relating this to the SOTU, this vid really explains why Stacey Abrams is a single woman with no children who for some reason is obsessed with women's right to choose.....her level of crazy keeps her thinking she still has a chance at finding a man that will marry and reproduce with her.  ::) YT is very educational.  It is today's new PBS.

Yep.  Love this. 

Regarding Abrams, I don't really agree.  There is somebody for everyone.  When I see people who are objectively unattractive, I sometimes tell myself:  (1) that is God's child just like me and (2) somebody is hitting that.  lol 
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 06, 2019, 04:22:54 PM
Trump is not bad when he sticks to the script as far as giving a decent speech. The speechwriters aren't unhinged and know what to say and how to say it. The problem is, Trump has a history of saying one thing and doing another or calling for unity as he trashes the other party. So yeah, as speeches go, it wasn't horrible. But it doesn't matter. Sunday morning tweets will be the same old dividing crap he always puts out.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Straw Man on February 06, 2019, 04:28:53 PM
I worked doing polls for 3 years.  Maybe you should look into the methodology a little more so you can see how flawed it is, especially in today's society.  And don't blame me, cuz you're the dipshit that just picked this as your source for info.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/about_us/methodology

I agree with you that rasmussen sucks

they have well documented Republican bias

I just picked that one because it's Trumptards favorite source when quoting polls

case in point:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=651711.0

Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Straw Man on February 06, 2019, 04:30:51 PM
Cry a little more, bitch. :-*

crying?

how do you figure that mocking you is crying?

then again, you're not that bright and clearly a fucking weirdo so it's anyone's guess how your brain works
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 06, 2019, 04:37:57 PM
I agree with you that rasmussen sucks

they have well documented Republican bias

I just picked that one because it's Trumptards favorite source when quoting polls



My initial thought is "nice save", but I'm striking it to just find common ground that pretty much all polls are garbage.  

One other thing, the methodology can not be Republican bias.  It relies on land lines which are free to the poor, and since Dems believe that there is so much white privilege they can not possibly be poor people.  I'm being sarcastic there Straw, but I did in fact also work for one of the largest phone/net providers and I can tell you that most of the people getting phone assisstance were minorities.  Women are more likely to answer the phone....this is pointed out by Rasmussen, Gallup, and other polling companies that have tried to get into that space over the years.  Women are much more likely to be against Trump whether Democrat or not....would you at least agree with these things I've posted?

If you do, then you have to see the deck is very stacked against Trump yet he's holding his own compared to Barack despite Barry having blacks vote for him just bcuz he's black, and also the media's darling.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 06, 2019, 04:40:02 PM
I personally love that the Democrat Speaker is acting like the alzheimers suffering nursing home patient who somehow escaped the facility.



I really enjoy the vivid pictures you paint with words :D
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 06, 2019, 04:51:56 PM
Yep.  Love this. 

Regarding Abrams, I don't really agree.  There is somebody for everyone.  When I see people who are objectively unattractive, I sometimes tell myself:  (1) that is God's child just like me and (2) somebody is hitting that.  lol 

I admit, I'm being kind of an asshole to make a point about her political views, and how they don't fit her current life and doing so based off a funny video at the same time (which does have some truth to it)

You are right though Dos Equis, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  She could be a lovely person.  I did a little research on her last night after listening to her speech, and she is involved with some good causes.  Some of them children related, and that makes me wonder how she can go along with this post birth "abortion" shit?

While I listened to her whole speech as I feel that's the proper American thing to do, she started out pretty bad with the "happy lunar moon" shit, and something like "the president speech was for the republicans, I'm here representing all Americans"  Ummm, she literally represents NO ONE!  She lost a simple governorship.  Like I said, I feel bad for her because I think Chuck and Nancy know they can't put together a coherent thought on the spot, and without the aid of a teleprompter.  That is why neither of them will run for POTUS.  Trump will slaughter them in a live debate, and make them look retarded.

First thing I did when her speech was done was pick up my phone, and ask google "what the fuck does happy lunar new year mean?".
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Straw Man on February 06, 2019, 04:56:25 PM
My initial thought is "nice save", but I'm striking it to just find common ground that pretty much all polls are garbage.  

One other thing, the methodology can not be Republican bias.  It relies on land lines which are free to the poor, and since Dems believe that there is so much white privilege they can not possibly be poor people.  I'm being sarcastic there Straw, but I did in fact also work for one of the largest phone/net providers and I can tell you that most of the people getting phone assisstance were minorities.  Women are more likely to answer the phone....this is pointed out by Rasmussen, Gallup, and other polling companies that have tried to get into that space over the years.  Women are much more likely to be against Trump whether Democrat or not....would you at least agree with these things I've posted?

If you do, then you have to see the deck is very stacked against Trump yet he's holding his own compared to Barack despite Barry having blacks vote for him just bcuz he's black, and also the media's darling.

you worked for a polling company ?

what did you do there that helped you determine that "pretty much all polls are garbage"?

you must have a lot of solid data to back up that claim

can you share it here or are you just offering an opinion devoid of any actual data to support your opinion


Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Straw Man on February 06, 2019, 04:57:14 PM
Seek help and medication. 

you were a big fan of speeches when Obama was POTUS...right?

you thought they were very significant?
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Dos Equis on February 06, 2019, 05:28:27 PM
I admit, I'm being kind of an asshole to make a point about her political views, and how they don't fit her current life and doing so based off a funny video at the same time (which does have some truth to it)

You are right though Dos Equis, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  She could be a lovely person.  I did a little research on her last night after listening to her speech, and she is involved with some good causes.  Some of them children related, and that makes me wonder how she can go along with this post birth "abortion" shit?

While I listened to her whole speech as I feel that's the proper American thing to do, she started out pretty bad with the "happy lunar moon" shit, and something like "the president speech was for the republicans, I'm here representing all Americans"  Ummm, she literally represents NO ONE!  She lost a simple governorship.  Like I said, I feel bad for her because I think Chuck and Nancy know they can't put together a coherent thought on the spot, and without the aid of a teleprompter.  That is why neither of them will run for POTUS.  Trump will slaughter them in a live debate, and make them look retarded.

First thing I did when her speech was done was pick up my phone, and ask google "what the fuck does happy lunar new year mean?".

I agree about how polarizing her speech was.  And I didn't know what that happy lunar crap was either.  lol.  But I don't feel sorry for her.  She's knows exactly what she is doing.  She is part of the problem. 
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 06, 2019, 05:49:29 PM
you worked for a polling company ?

what did you do there that helped you determine that "pretty much all polls are garbage"?

you must have a lot of solid data to back up that claim

can you share it here or are you just offering an opinion devoid of any actual data to support your opinion




For one, you can read the methodology link for Ras that I provided, and just eliminate the part about the internet being used as a tool as it was many years ago.  We did the political polls via phone call for all media to put out.  I didn't work on the data analysis side, but I understood how the surveys were put together and I asked the questions, heard, experienced the emotion, and entered the responses.  Choices were typically strongly agree, somewhat agree, agree, somewhat disagree, and strongly disagree....most times, but not all, "agree" was not an option as it's vague and doesn't really pick a side.

I could work whenever I wanted to schedule-wise, but I would always work on nights when there were major political things happening such as the SOTU.  I bring that up to illustrate the small sample size.  We had about 50-60 "interviewers" of which I was one.  Once the speech was over we would wait until we were told to switch out of whatever survey we were doing (mostly our clients were corporate - customer satisfaction and gov't department - employee satisfaction surveys)  The call blitz to do the political polling throughout America with 50-60 reps (best case if they were all there, but rarely the case) took all of an hour at most out of say a typical 5-7 hour shift I might go in for.  I believe Ras uses a rolling avg. number of days based on 500 responses per day.  I'm not going back to read it all again for you.  

So basically Straw, you're getting 3500 responses per week to represent 300+ million people.  People with mostly land lines, and now some added people they somehow determine on the net are a fair sampling of republican or democrat...it's based on their word.  So that's flawed currently.  Back when I was doing it, we weren't doing that poll all week long.  It was once a week at most, usually once a month, and then also when the President addressed the country or a major event happened.  A lot less than 3500 opinions per week were being touted as representative of the country back then. (even more flawed than now)

You've read my posts for more years than you'll admit so you knew I'd answer and it would be wordy as fuck, so is that detailed enough for you?

Now that I've taken the time to show you respect and answer several of your questions/posts on the politics board, how about you return to your thread about Trump shitting on his intelligence people? I know you popped back in to prove you didn't run away, but how about actually having the decency to respond to some of the counterpoints and questions posted?  Doesn't have to be anything I asked or pointed out, just pick a few with differing views/points and have a discussion.  

It's a discussion board, not a place to shit out your side of the argument and leave it there for everyone to sit and wonder why it smells so bad?  Your threads are kinda like going into a porta-potty when you have no choice, and wondering "OMG...What the fuck did that person eat?"  That's how you come off when it comes to discussions. 
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 06, 2019, 05:51:51 PM
you were a big fan of speeches when Obama was POTUS...right?

you thought they were very significant?

Only for comedy.   Ofagget speeches were TelePrompTer scams
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: chaos on February 06, 2019, 06:06:19 PM
Getlibbers responding pretty much how I thought they would. 8)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: mazrim on February 06, 2019, 06:07:16 PM
For one, you can read the methodology link for Ras that I provided, and just eliminate the part about the internet being used as a tool as it was many years ago.  We did the political polls via phone call for all media to put out.  I didn't work on the data analysis side, but I understood how the surveys were put together and I asked the questions, heard, experienced the emotion, and entered the responses.  Choices were typically strongly agree, somewhat agree, agree, somewhat disagree, and strongly disagree....most times, but not all, "agree" was not an option as it's vague and doesn't really pick a side.

I could work whenever I wanted to schedule-wise, but I would always work on nights when there were major political things happening such as the SOTU.  I bring that up to illustrate the small sample size.  We had about 50-60 "interviewers" of which I was one.  Once the speech was over we would wait until we were told to switch out of whatever survey we were doing (mostly our clients were corporate - customer satisfaction and gov't department - employee satisfaction surveys)  The call blitz to do the political polling throughout America with 50-60 reps (best case if they were all there, but rarely the case) took all of an hour at most out of say a typical 5-7 hour shift I might go in for.  I believe Ras uses a rolling avg. number of days based on 500 responses per day.  I'm not going back to read it all again for you.  

So basically Straw, you're getting 3500 responses per week to represent 300+ million people.  People with mostly land lines, and now some added people they somehow determine on the net are a fair sampling of republican or democrat...it's based on their word.  So that's flawed currently.  Back when I was doing it, we weren't doing that poll all week long.  It was once a week at most, usually once a month, and then also when the President addressed the country or a major event happened.  A lot less than 3500 opinions per week were being touted as representative of the country back then. (even more flawed than now)

You've read my posts for more years than you'll admit so you knew I'd answer and it would be wordy as fuck, so is that detailed enough for you?

Now that I've taken the time to show you respect and answer several of your questions/posts on the politics board, how about you return to your thread about Trump shitting on his intelligence people? I know you popped back in to prove you didn't run away, but how about actually having the decency to respond to some of the counterpoints and questions posted?  Doesn't have to be anything I asked or pointed out, just pick a few with differing views/points and have a discussion.  

It's a discussion board, not a place to shit out your side of the argument and leave it there for everyone to sit and wonder why it smells so bad?  Your threads are kinda like going into a porta-potty when you have no choice, and wondering "OMG...What the fuck did that person eat?"  That's how you come off when it comes to discussions.  
I don't  really know too much of you (except recently) on here, I like your posts. You seem to be one of those guys who even if there is a disagreement in thought process on some subjects that you are able to still talk/be rational with each other. Like most of the conservative/libertarian minded individuals on here. Good addition to this forum since you have been posting more here.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 06, 2019, 06:45:35 PM
Good post

For one, you can read the methodology link for Ras that I provided, and just eliminate the part about the internet being used as a tool as it was many years ago.  We did the political polls via phone call for all media to put out.  I didn't work on the data analysis side, but I understood how the surveys were put together and I asked the questions, heard, experienced the emotion, and entered the responses.  Choices were typically strongly agree, somewhat agree, agree, somewhat disagree, and strongly disagree....most times, but not all, "agree" was not an option as it's vague and doesn't really pick a side.

I could work whenever I wanted to schedule-wise, but I would always work on nights when there were major political things happening such as the SOTU.  I bring that up to illustrate the small sample size.  We had about 50-60 "interviewers" of which I was one.  Once the speech was over we would wait until we were told to switch out of whatever survey we were doing (mostly our clients were corporate - customer satisfaction and gov't department - employee satisfaction surveys)  The call blitz to do the political polling throughout America with 50-60 reps (best case if they were all there, but rarely the case) took all of an hour at most out of say a typical 5-7 hour shift I might go in for.  I believe Ras uses a rolling avg. number of days based on 500 responses per day.  I'm not going back to read it all again for you.  

So basically Straw, you're getting 3500 responses per week to represent 300+ million people.  People with mostly land lines, and now some added people they somehow determine on the net are a fair sampling of republican or democrat...it's based on their word.  So that's flawed currently.  Back when I was doing it, we weren't doing that poll all week long.  It was once a week at most, usually once a month, and then also when the President addressed the country or a major event happened.  A lot less than 3500 opinions per week were being touted as representative of the country back then. (even more flawed than now)

You've read my posts for more years than you'll admit so you knew I'd answer and it would be wordy as fuck, so is that detailed enough for you?

Now that I've taken the time to show you respect and answer several of your questions/posts on the politics board, how about you return to your thread about Trump shitting on his intelligence people? I know you popped back in to prove you didn't run away, but how about actually having the decency to respond to some of the counterpoints and questions posted?  Doesn't have to be anything I asked or pointed out, just pick a few with differing views/points and have a discussion.  

It's a discussion board, not a place to shit out your side of the argument and leave it there for everyone to sit and wonder why it smells so bad?  Your threads are kinda like going into a porta-potty when you have no choice, and wondering "OMG...What the fuck did that person eat?"  That's how you come off when it comes to discussions. 
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 06, 2019, 07:12:59 PM
Thanks Mazrim and Soul! 8)

I try.  I need to cut down on my wordiness, but I've always been that way.  Some like it, some don't.  Can't please 'em all.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Yamcha on February 07, 2019, 02:04:02 AM

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what in the hell is the bartender doing in that picture?
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 07, 2019, 04:05:30 AM
America, where anyone can be anything. 
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 07, 2019, 11:03:12 AM
They are.  It's just about what level of crazy they might be.  Funniest analysis ever:



LOL
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 07, 2019, 11:07:07 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=651723.0;attach=770532;image)

Sure she's saying "Fook Yu"?  Cause she looks like she's really saying "Fuk mi"

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/8PBfNDoySmsRc49P4F/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095c5c753c546a4c394de62b9e)

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/speaker-nancy-pelosi-and-vice-president-mike-pence-applaud-news-photo-1094200504-1549463488.jpg?crop=0.939xw:0.705xh;0,0.190xh&resize=640:*)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: chaos on February 07, 2019, 06:06:02 PM
Sure she's saying "Fook Yu"?  Cause she looks like she's really saying "Fuk mi"

LOL, she does do the kissy lip thing there doesn't she? ;D
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 07, 2019, 10:21:07 PM
what in the hell is the bartender doing in that picture?

I watched for her very closely during the speech, cuz she was sitting like a fucking stuck up bitch the first time they showed her.

If I remember right, this is when Trump was talking about the women in Congress and what an accomplishment it was, and she flipped up her hands and gave that shitty grin she has there as if she was thinking "yeah well, you know....I'm just awesome like that"  self-absorbed little twat.

I was in sales for many years.  That means lots of training on body language, and matching & mirroring.  Based off my training and experience in sales, I would bet $100 if that's the moment I'm thinking of; that that is very close to what she was mimicking and thinking.....and I'm not the typical millionaire GetBigger so $100 isn't sofa change. :'(
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 08, 2019, 03:58:27 AM
I watched for her very closely during the speech, cuz she was sitting like a fucking stuck up bitch the first time they showed her.

If I remember right, this is when Trump was talking about the women in Congress and what an accomplishment it was, and she flipped up her hands and gave that shitty grin she has there as if she was thinking "yeah well, you know....I'm just awesome like that"  self-absorbed little twat.

I was in sales for many years.  That means lots of training on body language, and matching & mirroring.  Based off my training and experience in sales, I would bet $100 if that's the moment I'm thinking of; that that is very close to what she was mimicking and thinking.....and I'm not the typical millionaire GetBigger so $100 isn't sofa change. :'(
Yes, it's all about her.  She's a typical millennial twat who thinks she is the smartest and most valuable person in the world.  The fall will be funny to watch.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Necrosis on February 08, 2019, 05:20:52 AM
The fucking division in here is real, no matter what trump does its good according to the right, the left see nothing but negative HAHAH.

What is the average IQ in the US?

Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Grape Ape on February 08, 2019, 05:45:47 AM


So basically Straw, you're getting 3500 responses per week to represent 300+ million people.


Once I saw someone chirping that "50% of Republicans believe Trump won the popular vote"....and he provided a link to a poll.   I dismissed it, but when it came up again, I thought that it was impossible, so I went to the site, read the polling method, and it went something like this:

1100 people surveyed
90% of those knew he lost the popular vote.
Of the 110 dumbasses who thought he won, 55 (50% of that subset) were Rebulican, 35 were Democrat, and 20 were "other".
So, in essence, 5% of Rebuplicans thought he won the popular, as did 3% of Democrats.

But the headline listed the amount of the subset (50% of 10%) and said "50% of Rebublicans".
So
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 08, 2019, 06:28:14 AM
The fucking division in here is real, no matter what trump does its good according to the right, the left see nothing but negative HAHAH.

What is the average IQ in the US?

It's politics.  As for IQ, most billionaires, best companies, and best inventions come out of the US.  So bow down to your big brother, Mr. Canadian doctor.  :)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Necrosis on February 08, 2019, 08:34:42 AM
It's politics.  As for IQ, most billionaires, best companies, and best inventions come out of the US.  So bow down to your big brother, Mr. Canadian doctor.  :)

Lol

seriously though it's clear that emotions are running a lot of people's mind's here. The me vs them mentality. Perhaps it's human nature, I haven't figured out humans yet. :D
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 08, 2019, 09:03:08 AM
Lol

seriously though it's clear that emotions are running a lot of people's mind's here. The me vs them mentality. Perhaps it's human nature, I haven't figured out humans yet. :D

So, what’s the average wait time in Canadian emergency rooms these days?


As far as IQs, it gets brought down by certain groups. What’s the percentage of Canadians that are black?


Homicide rates by race. (per 100,000 population):
https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/08/10/african-american-homicide-rate-nearly-quadruple-national-average-11680

20.9 for blacks (non-Hispanic)

4.9 for Hispanics

2.6 for whites (non-Hispanic)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 08, 2019, 09:07:16 AM
So, what’s the average wait time in Canadian emergency rooms these days?

Depends on the city or province.  15 minutes in some, 15 weeks in others.   :D
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 08, 2019, 09:08:47 AM
“It wasn’t sarcastic,” Pelosi insisted to reporters, per People magazine. “Look at what I was applauding. I wanted him to know that it was very welcomed.”

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/nancy-pelosi-explains-why-she-092155534.html

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/8PBfNDoySmsRc49P4F/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095c5c753c546a4c394de62b9e)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 08, 2019, 09:08:56 AM
Depends on the city or province.  15 minutes in some, 15 weeks in others.   :D

I heard Christian Thibodeau on a podcast say it was like 16 hours in Montreal. And that’s a great city.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 08, 2019, 09:10:53 AM
I heard Christian Thibodeau on a podcast say it was like 16 hours in Montreal. And that’s a great city.

Depends on the city or province.  15 minutes hours in some, 15 weeks in others.   :D

Fixed.   :D
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Necrosis on February 08, 2019, 12:09:43 PM
So, what’s the average wait time in Canadian emergency rooms these days?


As far as IQs, it gets brought down by certain groups. What’s the percentage of Canadians that are black?


Homicide rates by race. (per 100,000 population):
https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/08/10/african-american-homicide-rate-nearly-quadruple-national-average-11680

20.9 for blacks (non-Hispanic)

4.9 for Hispanics

2.6 for whites (non-Hispanic)

Meltdown. This isn't a canada vs US thing, me against you thing this is falling for their manipulation thing.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Necrosis on February 08, 2019, 12:10:41 PM
Depends on the city or province.  15 minutes in some, 15 weeks in others.   :D

Meltdown.

Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 08, 2019, 01:06:22 PM
I watched for her very closely during the speech, cuz she was sitting like a fucking stuck up bitch the first time they showed her.

If I remember right, this is when Trump was talking about the women in Congress and what an accomplishment it was, and she flipped up her hands and gave that shitty grin she has there as if she was thinking "yeah well, you know....I'm just awesome like that"  self-absorbed little twat.

I was in sales for many years.  That means lots of training on body language, and matching & mirroring.  Based off my training and experience in sales, I would bet $100 if that's the moment I'm thinking of; that that is very close to what she was mimicking and thinking.....and I'm not the typical millionaire GetBigger so $100 isn't sofa change. :'(

No, this was the moment he said "We must reject the politics of revenge, resistance and retribution and embrace the boundless potential of cooperation, compromise and the common good.”.  lasted all of 4 min before he started bashing Democrats
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Theoak* on February 08, 2019, 05:19:26 PM
SOTU is now a few days old and I’m surprised no one has posted this comparison.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: illuminati on February 08, 2019, 05:23:39 PM
No, this was the moment he said "We must reject the politics of revenge, resistance and retribution and embrace the boundless potential of cooperation, compromise and the common good.”.  lasted all of 4 min before he started bashing Democrats

Wow 4 minutes !! He did very well then.  ;D

Agnostic what’s your take on AOC in general & her new green deal ??
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: chaos on February 08, 2019, 06:05:26 PM
No, this was the moment he said "We must reject the politics of revenge, resistance and retribution and embrace the boundless potential of cooperation, compromise and the common good.”.  lasted all of 4 min before he started bashing Democrats
Demoncrats have spent the last 3 years dragging his every move and his family's every move through the public opinion mud pit, they need to be bashed. Not to worry though, with their ultra left wingnut ideas, they'll implode soon enough. ;)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: obsidian on February 08, 2019, 07:48:27 PM
Sure she's saying "Fook Yu"?  Cause she looks like she's really saying "Fuk mi"

Childish faces are for women. Men grew up and moved on from making childish faces like that. I would like to titty fuck Pelosi though!
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 09, 2019, 05:13:48 AM
Meltdown. This isn't a canada vs US thing, me against you thing this is falling for their manipulation thing.

I don’t melt arguing with Conker. Why would I do so with a tamer version?

It’s just that I notice that Europeans and Canadians like to call Americans dumb but conveniently leave out the dumbest most uneducated segments of the population.

RE manipulation, when I watch or read right leaning media, I know I’m getting a slanted viewpoint. It just happens to be one I agree with most of the time.

You should come to the US and visit an inner city then report back your findings.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 09, 2019, 09:38:22 AM
I wonder at what point during the SOTU speech did Pelosi realize that AOC is the leader of the Democrat Party now?
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 09, 2019, 10:14:56 AM
Meltdown.

Hope you're joking.  You just implied that Americans have low IQ and nobody said you're melting down. 

As for emergency room wait times in Canada, I really have no idea.  I was half joking, half guessing based on logic and based on how well Socialized medicine has workout for Venezuelans.   
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on February 09, 2019, 11:22:32 AM
I don’t melt arguing with Conker. Why would I do so with a tamer version?

It’s just that I notice that Europeans and Canadians like to call Americans dumb but conveniently leave out the dumbest most uneducated segments of the population.

RE manipulation, when I watch or read right leaning media, I know I’m getting a slanted viewpoint. It just happens to be one I agree with most of the time.

You should come to the US and visit an inner city then report back your findings.

Something tells me Necrosis doesn't disagree with you on this.

Im not a racist, but on the totem of accomplishments, if we grant it, even hypothetically vince, blacks rank with beothucks in terms of overall accomplishment.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Necrosis on February 10, 2019, 08:01:15 AM
Hope you're joking.  You just implied that Americans have low IQ and nobody said you're melting down. 

As for emergency room wait times in Canada, I really have no idea.  I was half joking, half guessing based on logic and based on how well Socialized medicine has workout for Venezuelans.   

Of course I am joking lol.

this is getbig.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Necrosis on February 10, 2019, 08:04:30 AM
Something tells me Necrosis doesn't disagree with you on this.


Did I say that lol! it comes across a little harsh but I do think in terms of civilizations it appears Asians are ahead, then euro-white and down the line. In terms of other things the deck is likely reversed in many ways. Of course it's a melting pot now and making such clear demarcations are difficult. To suggest that there are no racial differences amongst humans is like saying breeds of dog are different. Inherently neither good or bad.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Necrosis on February 10, 2019, 08:15:16 AM
I don’t melt arguing with Conker. Why would I do so with a tamer version?

It’s just that I notice that Europeans and Canadians like to call Americans dumb but conveniently leave out the dumbest most uneducated segments of the population.

RE manipulation, when I watch or read right leaning media, I know I’m getting a slanted viewpoint. It just happens to be one I agree with most of the time.

You should come to the US and visit an inner city then report back your findings.

The only reason Americans would be "dumb" would be a collective dampening of the intellect induced by media, education etc. Americans I find have a very america-centric view of the world, often unrealistic. My assertion is based on the level of discourse I see coming out of the US, however, I would think that this isn't representative when juxtaposed with it's accomplishments.

Trump is the manifestation of American egocentricity personified. A little allocentricity would be helpful as one extreme is never good.



Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: chaos on February 10, 2019, 08:29:09 AM
The only reason Americans would be "dumb" would be a collective dampening of the intellect induced by media, education etc. Americans I find have a very america-centric view of the world, often unrealistic. My assertion is based on the level of discourse I see coming out of the US, however, I would think that this isn't representative when juxtaposed with it's accomplishments.

Trump is the manifestation of American egocentricity personified. A little allocentricity would be helpful as one extreme is never good.




I think Trump is correcting how far left the country has gone over the last 40 years and bringing it back to the center. You might hear and see a lot of rhetoric in the media but it's not like the country is going to swing far right, it's just going to go back towards center.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Necrosis on February 10, 2019, 08:43:38 AM
I think Trump is correcting how far left the country has gone over the last 40 years and bringing it back to the center. You might hear and see a lot of rhetoric in the media but it's not like the country is going to swing far right, it's just going to go back towards center.

I would agree, the identity politics and SJW's are why trump gained power, its equally divisive.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 10, 2019, 07:33:32 PM
I would agree, the identity politics and SJW's are why trump gained power, its equally divisive.

Not a single thing I can argue in your last 3 posts.  Your very well-spoken, thoughtful, and concise.  8)
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 16, 2019, 03:17:29 PM
Wow 4 minutes !! He did very well then.  ;D

Agnostic what’s your take on AOC in general & her new green deal ??

I think she probably means well but doesn't have the knowledge and experience to do much in the real world of government. Hopefully she'll be a fast learner and focus on things that can be done vs pipe dreams and idealistic imaginings
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Primemuscle on February 16, 2019, 04:15:35 PM
Patiently waiting for the getlibs thoughts on the sotu.

Nice of you to be so patient. Nancy Palosi's theatrics were amusing. Pence remained ever the robot. The number of standing ovations were tiring to everyone but the democrats, who remained seated though out Trump's show.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 16, 2019, 08:33:49 PM
Nice of you to be so patient. Nancy Palosi's theatrics were amusing. Pence remained ever the robot. The number of standing ovations were tiring to everyone but the democrats, who remained seated though out Trump's show.

Yeah, it was a true show of care for humanity and patriotism for their country when they sat for things like ending child trafficking and not allowing late term abortions baby's executions

Bunch sound morality based people your proud of following there Prime!  SMH :'(
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: Primemuscle on February 19, 2019, 08:31:36 PM
Yeah, it was a true show of care for humanity and patriotism for their country when they sat for things like ending child trafficking and not allowing late term abortions baby's executions

Bunch sound morality based people your proud of following there Prime!  SMH :'(

Your deflecting. None of what you replied has anything to do with Trump's SOTU.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: myt1 on February 23, 2019, 03:06:01 PM
Your deflecting. None of what you replied has anything to do with Trump's SOTU.

It doesn't huh?  Well, that's all the proof I needed to know that you did not watch the speech other than the clips the left wing media spoon fed you.  Shame on you.  What I said was directly related to the SOTU speech...watching and hearing it.

I watched all of Barry's even though I couldn't stand him.  

Why?  

Because he was unfortunately our president, and what he was saying was important to hear and see with my own eyes...not what any news channel decides to splice together.

BTW, I see you're practicing using a new lefty term that's trending...."deflecting".  Nice try, but you need to go back to class to learn when it actually is applicable.
Title: Re: SOTU....what did you guys think?
Post by: loco on March 15, 2019, 07:14:20 PM
Sure she's saying "Fook Yu"?  Cause she looks like she's really saying "Fuk mi"

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/8PBfNDoySmsRc49P4F/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095c5c753c546a4c394de62b9e)

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/speaker-nancy-pelosi-and-vice-president-mike-pence-applaud-news-photo-1094200504-1549463488.jpg?crop=0.939xw:0.705xh;0,0.190xh&resize=640:*)


(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/YjsLjb_iOJ7aYX_1Vp12gg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/people_218/0ca82ef82dc9aba1b64abda5ef8e5cc3)