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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Humble Narcissist on March 10, 2019, 12:57:38 PM
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An Ethiopian airline, what could possibly go wrong? ::)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6791675/Ethiopian-Airlines-plane-way-Nairobi-crashes-157-people-board.html
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I know what you are getting at but this is the second brand new Boeing 737 Max to go down in months. Something not right here. It will be interesting to see what the cause was.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/world/africa/ethiopian-airlines-plane-crash.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/world/africa/boeing-737-max-8-crash.html
When an airplane carrying at least 150 people crashed in Ethiopia on Sunday, killing all aboard, it was the second time in less than six months that this particular plane model was involved in a catastrophic accident.
The plane, a Boeing 737 Max 8, was the same model that crashed in Indonesia in October, killing 189 people.
In both cases, brand-new planes faltered minutes after takeoff and plunged into a deadly descent, leaving no survivors.
The investigation into both cases is continuing, but the latest crash renewed questions about the safety of the 737 Max, which Boeing unveiled in 2017 and sold as a fuel-efficient, technologically advanced upgrade to its popular 737.
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What is known after the crash in Indonesia?
It was too soon to tell on Sunday whether the causes of the Ethiopian Airlines crash were the same as or similar to those of the Lion Air crash in Indonesia last year.
But there are some initial similarities: On Sunday, the flight lost contact about six minutes after takeoff. The pilot had been given clearance to return to the airport in Addis Ababa, according to Ethiopian Airlines, which operated the flight. But the plane went down near Bishoftu, about 35 miles southeast of Addis Ababa.
The crash last year also involved a plane that went down minutes after takeoff and after the crew requested permission to return to the airport.
In that case, investigations by the Indonesian and American aviation authorities determined that the Lion Air plane’s abrupt nose dive might have been caused by updated Boeing software that was meant to prevent a stall but that can send the plane into a fatal descent if the altitude and angle information being fed into the computer system is incorrect.
The change in the flight control system, which can override manual motions in the Max model, was not explained to pilots, according to some pilots’ unions.
After that crash, Boeing said that it was continuing “to evaluate the need for software or other changes as we learn more from the ongoing investigation.” It was unclear if the company had made any changes.
In a statement on Sunday, Boeing said it was “deeply saddened” to learn of the crash of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302.
“A Boeing technical team is prepared to provide technical assistance at the request and under the direction of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board,” the company said.
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So, 339 lives are lost in two separate plane crash in 5 months....these two planes were the same model(737 MAX-8) brand new, state of the art....wait a minute, Boeing is not responsible for that, it's up to the pilots to learn how to fly these new planes....or maybe Boeing will have a different take on this issue if in 5 more months, a southwest 737 MAX-8 crashes in a major US city upon take off .....I'm pretty sure that will get their attention
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A long time friend of mine is a Captain for that exact airline. He flies 737's identical to the model that went down. EA is a very well respected airline that flies the newest best equipment and hires top caliber pilots.
I do understand how the name Ethiopian Airlines would not instill confidence to a customer unfamiliar with the company.
A most unfortunate incident.
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QANTAS never crash, so it's boring flying with Aussie nothing happen .................... :-\
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Probably the same thing that happened to the Lion air crash last fall
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A long time friend of mine is a Captain for that exact airline. He flies 737's identical to the model that went down. EA is a very well respected airline that flies the newest best equipment and hires top caliber pilots.
I do understand how the name Ethiopian Airlines would not instill confidence to a customer unfamiliar with the company.
A most unfortunate incident.
yes, EA has a Good safety record, but even the best pilots would never be able to recover from that kind of fatal flaw, now Boeing is saying they're Grounding all these MAX-8 until they can fix these deadly flaws....unfortunately, it had to take 339 lives for Boeing to realize they're the Culprit
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QANTAS never crash, so it's boring flying with Aussie nothing happen .................... :-\
You're killing me, Ray.
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first one was practice, second one was full of UN
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Any of you have trouble with your private jets?
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Any of you have trouble with your private jets?
I sold mine. Pilot I hired was too unreliable.
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yes, EA has a Good safety record, but even the best pilots would never be able to recover from that kind of fatal flaw, now Boeing is saying they're Grounding all these MAX-8 until they can fix these deadly flaws....unfortunately, it had to take 339 lives for Boeing to realize they're the Culprit
Is Boeing grounding the planes? I heard some airlines were. That's a big difference.
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the settlement will be ridiculous. Still sad for the people that lost their lives though.
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Is Boeing grounding the planes? I heard some airlines were. That's a big difference.
Foreign airlines have grounded the planes. Non-American airlines have not grounded the planes. Seems suspicious.