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Why don't America's territories become states already?
It seems to have worked out for Hawaii.
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Why don't America's territories become states already?
It seems to have worked out for Hawaii.
& 'American' Samoa ;)
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Why don't America's territories become states already?
It seems to have worked out for Hawaii.
they would also all be massive welfare states
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It's come up to a vote in PR several times and they voted no.
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Cause we don't want their asses in our club. We only took Hawaii because of it's strategic location. Why else? It's not like they have contributed to the country otherwise. Bunch of meth heads and chubby boob males running around.
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Better question why haven’t we disowned them.
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honest answer?
50 is a good round number
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they would also all be massive welfare states
Bingo, because they would qualify for federal money ( disaster relief, infra structure etc. )
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Cause they'll vote democratic and the gop can't have that happen.
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The Virgin Islands voted on the matter in 1993. Most voted to remain a territory,
but voter turnout was less than 50%, so it didn't change anything. Most things move
very slowly there, lots of apathy, I’m sorry to say.
1/3 of SS disability claims in Puerto Rico are for mood disorders. In contrast, 10% of SS
disability claims in Montana are mood disorders. For a time, not being able to speak
English qualified as a disability. I don’t think the U.S. would benefit from PR’s statehood.
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What advantage would PR get by becoming a state?
PR's are US citizens.
The country gets aid and disaster relief from the US.
It gets military protection.
There is nothing they really don't get except representation in Congress and the Senate.
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What advantage would PR get by becoming a state?
PR's are US citizens.
The country gets aid and disaster relief from the US.
It gets military protection.
There is nothing they really don't get except representation in Congress and the Senate.
Federal highway funds for the train tracks from PR to Florida? :D
PR's population is declining, and the fertility rate is in the crapper. It's becoming and island
of older folks. Perhaps in a couple generations Disney will buy large swaths of land and build
a theme park and hotel.
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Federal highway funds for the train tracks from PR to Florida? :D
PR's population is declining, and the fertility rate is in the crapper. It's becoming and island
of older folks. Perhaps in a couple generations Disney will buy large swaths of land and build
a theme park and hotel.
A couple years ago I was seriously considering going to PR on vacation.
However, it is expensive and has a high crime rate so I didn't. As long as you stay in the tourist areas it's ok which is like most places.
From what I read you have to stay way out on the west end, away from the city.
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Anybody here ever been to Guam? I was offered a job at a big resort there, didn't end up taking it, but heard it's beautiful.
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Posts 2-9 answered the question very well!
Nicely done fellers 8)
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What advantage would PR get by becoming a state?
PR's are US citizens.
The country gets aid and disaster relief from the US.
It gets military protection.
There is nothing they really don't get except representation in Congress and the Senate.
Basically they're getting all the benefits of being an American state without having to pay federal taxes and without being able to vote for president. I understand why they like this situation. Who would want to pay Federal income taxes.
I think it's time America gave these territories an ultimatum. Either become a state or become your own country and loose your citizenship.
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They would most likely be democrats. Republicans don't want 2-8 more democratic Senators.
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How much do they pay in American taxes?
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How much do they pay in American taxes?
Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.
https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/irs/tax-law-and-policy/do-puerto-ricans-pay-us-taxes/
"U.S. citizens who have lived all year on the island are exempt from filing taxes to the federal government of the United States as long as all of your income was from Puerto Rican sources only. However, if you receive income from anywhere else in the world, including the United States and/or if you are an employee of any agency of the United States in Puerto Rico, you must submit a form to the federal government."
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if you spend half the year, ie winter, in PR you pay hardly any taxes.
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Why don't America's territories become states already?
It seems to have worked out for Hawaii.
It helps the US greatly in terms of economics. According to records, Puerto Rico is costing the US over USD22 billion a year, but as a state, it can contribute nearly USD2 billion to the US Treasury every year.3. It offers more opportunities for Puerto Ricans. As previously mentioned, a high percentage of Puerto Ricans are living below the poverty level, but this would not be the case if their country’s statehood goes into effect. This means that all residents would get access to job and they would also have to pay the same taxes as we do
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is guam a shithole
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is guam a shithole
No they do a lot of business with Hawaii I actually liked it better Guam is a destination like no other. Only on Guam can you find star-sand beaches, crystal clear blue skies great food its like a small island retreat and the woman are nice..
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honest answer?
50 is a good round number
Nope, honest answer. Money. And why became a state? Went you don't have to pay taxes, and get the same benefits, minus voting?
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Nope, honest answer. Money. And why became a state? Went you don't have to pay taxes, and get the same benefits, minus voting?
The ballot said would you like to pay federal taxes, yes or no. Most people said no. I can't understand why.
Seriously, it needs to be more painful to remain a territory than to become a state. They've made it the other way around. America's being to easy on these territories. There needs to be an ultimatum either you become a state, or you loose your territory status. Having territories that never become states seems pointless and costly.
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They get federal money but pay no federal taxes on their pay checks. Why would they want to become states? They can get welfare, food stamps, social security, medicare and not pay into it. They get bridges built and highways without paying for it. If they become states then then the free ride is over.
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They get federal money but pay no federal taxes on their pay checks. Why would they want to become states? They can get welfare, food stamps, social security, medicare and not pay into it. They get bridges built and highways without paying for it. If they become states then then the free ride is over.
US Military outposts ;)
Just like US bases on other countries islands.
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US Military outposts ;)
Just like US bases on other countries islands.
Originally yes, not too much of a benefit in the modern world, with its drones, satellites, intercontinental missiles, etc.
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Originally yes, not too much of a benefit in the modern world, with its drones, satellites, intercontinental missiles, etc.
Like US military bases on British island in Indian ocean, new 1 in Darwin, new 1 in Croatia,.......... ;)
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Trump floated idea of selling Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria, says ex-Homeland Security head Duke
President Donald Trump raised the possibility of selling Puerto Rico in 2017 after Hurricane Maria devastated the U.S. territory, former acting Homeland Security Secretary Elaine Duke told The New York Times.
"The president’s initial ideas were more of as a businessman, you know," she told the Times. "Can we outsource the electricity? Can we sell the island? You know, or divest of that asset?"
Duke, who took the helm at the Department of Homeland Security after retired Gen. John Kelly left to become White House chief of staff, said the possibility of selling Puerto Rico was "never seriously considered or discussed" after Trump floated the idea, according to the Times.
Maria caused $43 billion to $159 billion in damage to the island and left nearly 3,000 people dead.
Duke said she called for an emergency declaration before Maria made landfall, but then-Director of Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney told her to stop "being so emotional."
"It’s not about the people, it’s about the money," Mulvaney said, according to Duke.
"I never made such a remark," Mulvaney told the Times. "My experience with the acting director was that she rarely got anything right at D.H.S. At least she’s consistent."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/13/trump-mulled-selling-puerto-rico-elaine-duke/5426478002/?fbclid=IwAR3bQbWdlbrCaWo1ojYFiZ2wSCo8K1gUsLPdrImAZFy61u_bJL_CiwXw0VE
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Anybody here ever been to Guam? I was offered a job at a big resort there, didn't end up taking it, but heard it's beautiful.
Nice, thanks.
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Trump floated idea of selling Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria, says ex-Homeland Security head Duke
President Donald Trump raised the possibility of selling Puerto Rico in 2017 after Hurricane Maria devastated the U.S. territory, former acting Homeland Security Secretary Elaine Duke told The New York Times.
"The president’s initial ideas were more of as a businessman, you know," she told the Times. "Can we outsource the electricity? Can we sell the island? You know, or divest of that asset?"
Duke, who took the helm at the Department of Homeland Security after retired Gen. John Kelly left to become White House chief of staff, said the possibility of selling Puerto Rico was "never seriously considered or discussed" after Trump floated the idea, according to the Times.
Maria caused $43 billion to $159 billion in damage to the island and left nearly 3,000 people dead.
Duke said she called for an emergency declaration before Maria made landfall, but then-Director of Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney told her to stop "being so emotional."
"It’s not about the people, it’s about the money," Mulvaney said, according to Duke.
"I never made such a remark," Mulvaney told the Times. "My experience with the acting director was that she rarely got anything right at D.H.S. At least she’s consistent."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/13/trump-mulled-selling-puerto-rico-elaine-duke/5426478002/?fbclid=IwAR3bQbWdlbrCaWo1ojYFiZ2wSCo8K1gUsLPdrImAZFy61u_bJL_CiwXw0VE
I wonder what it would cost? Aren’t the days of buying land for country’s expansion over? Seems outdated, like an absolute monarchy or something.
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How many U.S taxes do these countries, islands, territories pay?
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Territories make good places for military bases.
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They're not historically or culturally American. They shouldn't be states.
If they're not states then you don't get to tax them. If there's a strategic benefit then the current arrangement is acceptable. If they don't benefit us then cut 'em loose.
Hawaii begged to get in and to this day its people hate you if you're not Hawaiian. There's a lesson in that.
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Cause we don't want their asses in our club. We only took Hawaii because of it's strategic location. Why else? It's not like they have contributed to the country otherwise. Bunch of meth heads and chubby boob males running around.
Okay, but why are you having a go at Goodrum and Vissy?
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Cause we don't want their asses in our club. We only took Hawaii because of it's strategic location. Why else? It's not like they have contributed to the country otherwise. Bunch of meth heads and chubby boob males running around.
Hawaii contributed Pellius to us which totally made it worth it. Hawaii also brings in lots of tourism money.
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Hawaii contributed Pearl Harbor, surfing, the hula, Hawaii Five-O, Magnum P.I. (Selleck version), and Elvis movies.
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2704088/images/o-ELVIS-BLUE-HAWAII-facebook.jpg)
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Puerto Rico...
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