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Title: Gambling - Lottery Tickets
Post by: SF1900 on March 30, 2019, 05:58:22 AM
I was at the store today and in front of the line was a lady buying lottery tickets. She had at least 20 lottery tickets and about 20-30 scratch off tickets

On the one hand, if the lady was already wealthy, she likely wouldn't be trying to hit it big.

On the other hand, if she was lower-income, how could she afford to buy all those lottery tickets presumably every week?

Of course, you have to be in it to win it, but I cannot fathom blowing your hard earned money on all those tickets. Clearly, she has never won it big, otherwise should would not be playing anymore.

Do any getbiggers buy this many lottery tickets and/or scratch offs?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on March 30, 2019, 06:19:04 AM
Not much for scratch tickets but I hit casino a couple times a week.Casino is my second home.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SF1900 on March 30, 2019, 06:31:58 AM
Not much for scratch tickets but I hit casino a couple times a week.Casino is my second home.

Have you won more than you lost or vice versa?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on March 30, 2019, 06:43:17 AM
Have you won more than you lost or vice versa?

I won a ton of money for years.Then got a bad run and lost a bunch but I usually win 3 out of 5.Im up or else I wouldn’t go back.I don’t chase money.I bring what I want to lose and that’s it no atm runs or cash advances at the casino.Whatever cash comes is what I play with some days good and some bad but you can’t appreciate the good without the bad.

I bought a few cars,watches and down payment on house from gambling.mohegan sun was my job for a year I went 5-6 days a week for about 13 months.

Last good win was June last year,walked in with 2500 and walked out with 18k but hit lux bond and green on way out and bought the new Rolex sd43 so walked out up 4500.

My best years were 2010-2012 I was on fire and seemed like I couldn’t lose,I was winning 7-8 times in a row then lose 1-2.Winning prob 80%.had many 20-25k days.

In fact prob head there soon.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SF1900 on March 30, 2019, 06:48:36 AM
I won a ton of money for years.Then got a bad run and lost a bunch but I usually win 3 out of 5.Im up or else I wouldn’t go back.I don’t chase money.I bring what I want to lose and that’s it no atm runs or cash advances at the casino.Whatever cash comes is what I play with some days good and some bad but you can’t appreciate the good without the bad.

I bought a few cars,watches and down payment on house from gambling.mohegan sun was my job for a year I went 5-6 days a week for about 13 months.

Last good win was June last year,walked in with 2500 and walked out with 18k but hit lux bond and green on way out and bought the new Rolex sd43 so walked out up 4500.

Nice!!

Most people are always down though.

I've never even been inside of a casino. I just have no interest in gambling. People say its "fun." But, why is it fun to lose money? I mean, most people lose more than they win. I talk to people and they are like, "Wow, I had so much fun gambling," despite them losing more than they won. Fun?  ??? ??? Maybe it's the excitement of gambling, being in the atmosphere, etc.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on March 30, 2019, 06:49:47 AM
Yeah if I got some time to burn, I'll run to the Indian casino. I don't expect to win, but it's nice if I do. Went yesterday with $100 to blow, played 2 hours, walked out with $350. So in getbigese I walked in with $10,000, won 35,000,  nailed the hot waitress by the ice machine, and left.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on March 30, 2019, 06:58:27 AM
Yeah if I got some time to burn, I'll run to the Indian casino. I don't expect to win, but it's nice if I do. Went yesterday with $100 to blow, played 2 hours, walked out with $350. So in getbigese I walked in with $10,000, won 35,000,  nailed the hot waitress by the ice machine, and left.

Started gambling at casinos 21 years ago and started with 2-300 at a time,then it was 500 then 1000 and so on so now unfortunately I can’t walk in a casino without at least 2500 usually more but I love it.The rush is amazing.

But whenever anyone starts a thread and they get responses that people don’t like they think people are lying.So whatever I just tell what happens and if you don’t like it then whatever.If I have 10k on my And I’m going to casino then I put 10 k on the table.Once you graduate from betting red chips to green to black and purple you can’t go back to green or red unfortunately cause the rush isn’t there.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SF1900 on March 30, 2019, 06:59:54 AM
Started gambling at casinos 21 years ago and started with 2-300 at a time,then it was 500 then 1000 and so on so now unfortunately I can’t walk in a casino without at least 2500 usually more but I love it.The rush is amazing.

But whenever anyone starts a thread and they get responses that people don’t like they think people are lying.So whatever I just tell what happens and if you don’t like it then whatever.If I have 10k on my And I’m going to casino then I put 10 k on the table.Once you graduate from betting red chips to green to black and purple you can’t go back to green or red unfortunately cause the rush isn’t there.

Rob, what is the most you have ever won in a slot machine!??!

I never said you were lying.   ??? ??? I believe its a rush for people, I just can't fathom it for myself.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: gmflex on March 30, 2019, 07:12:26 AM
Buy some quick picks for the Powerball, mega millions,and Texas lotto.. Usually $5 bucks.. I only buy the tickets when I need to put gas in my car.. Otherwise I wouldn't drive to the gasoline station just get a ticket..
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on March 30, 2019, 07:22:39 AM
Rob, what is the most you have ever won in a slot machine!??!

I never said you were lying.   ??? ??? I believe its a rush for people, I just can't fathom it for myself.

No I know you didn’t but everytime I answer a question the trolls come in to full force.I only answer questions like this if I have experience so I did.I never play slots,I have played and maybe won a couple hundred just not into slots.You can win a lot more money on slots but just not for me,I don’t buy lottery tickets or scratch tickets or play slots.Strictly tabel games.blackjack,Spanish 21,3 card poker,Caribbean stud etc...Then the poker room.have a nice glass of scotch while being baked and playing is a blast for me.I don’t have to much fun so gambling is my fun.i get a free stay at Mohegan anytime I go but rarely use it as I don’t want to stay after winning cause then I might give it back.They send me free bet coupons for 200-500.00 as well as free 50-100 in dining and whatever else every few weeks.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: IroNat on March 30, 2019, 07:26:11 AM
Rob, what is the most you have ever won in a slot machine!??!

I never said you were lying.   ??? ??? I believe its a rush for people, I just can't fathom it for myself.

Regarding the lady buying 20+ lottery tickets she may have been buying for her gang at work.  They all chip and buy a bunch and she makes the buy.

Chronic gambling is an addiction.  People with addictive personalities should stay away just like they should stay away from drugs, booze, etc.

Now, with online gambling the opportunity for addiction is even greater.  Like having your own meth dealer in your home.

The casinos are filled with retired folks emptying their pockets at the slots machines (the real money-makers in the casinos).

Everybody you talk to who hits the casinos regularly is always a winner.  Did you notice?

Yes, you can hit a one-time score but if you keep going the relentless odds favor the casino by a %, albeit a small one. 

It only has to be a small % for the casino to make out.

My bro-in-law has a wealthy friend who gambles all the time and gets comped very well by the casino.  Bro-in-law say the guy wins all the time.

So, think about it. The guy gambles a lot, wins all the time, and the casino loves him so much they give him more free stuff.

It's a wonder the places stay in business giving all that money away.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on March 30, 2019, 07:34:43 AM
Regarding the lady buying 20+ lottery tickets she may have been buying or her gang at work.  They all chip and buy a bunch and she makes the buy.

Chronic gambling is an addiction.  People with addictive personalities should stay away.

Everybody you talk to who hits the casinos regularly is always a winner.

My bro-in-law has a wealthy friend who gambles all the time and gets comped very well by the casino.  Bro-in-law say the guy wins all the time.

So, think about it. The guy gambles a lot, wins all the time, and the casino loves him so much they give him more free stuff.

It's a wonder the places stay in business giving all that money away.

Casinos give lots of stuff to people who put a lot of cash on the table.Very simple really,majority of people lose as they go to have fun and get free drinks.I don’t go with friends I go solo and have one drink then leave.I don’t hang out and I don’t give my winnings back.I get free gas,free food,free rooms etc...I’m well known at Mohegan son and all the valet love me as I tip 20 in and 50 out so my car is the first spot at exit ahead of Ferrari’s and Porsche’s etc...why cause I tip the best as they tell me all the time.Those are my losing tips if I’m winning I tip a few hundred.Yes I have lost many times but I usually win more.question about gambling asked and I answered.

I know about a few things and those are gambling,Rolex watches,construction and lifting heavy weights so I will answer those posts.I know nothing about sports,I’m not a ladies man and I’m not into cars so I don’t know much about that stuff.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: IroNat on March 30, 2019, 07:43:38 AM
Casinos give lots of stuff to people who put a lot of cash on the table.Very simple really,majority of people lose as they go to have fun and get free drinks.I don’t go with friends I go solo and have one drink then leave.I don’t hang out and I don’t give my winnings back.I get free gas,free food,free rooms etc...I’m well known at Mohegan son and all the valet love me as I tip 20 in and 50 out so my car is the first spot at exit ahead of Ferrari’s and Porsche’s etc...why cause I tip the best as they tell me all the time.Those are my losing tips if I’m winning I tip a few hundred.Yes I have lost many times but I usually win more.question about gambling asked and I answered.

I know about a few things and those are gambling,Rolex watches,construction and lifting heavy weights so I will answer those posts.I know nothing about sports,I’m not a ladies man and I’m not into cars so I don’t know much about that stuff.

Rob,

You obviously have what most recreational gamblers lack and that is discipline.  You know when to walk away.

Good job.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on March 30, 2019, 07:59:57 AM
Rob,

You obviously have what most recreational gamblers lack and that is discipline.  You know when to walk away.

Good job.

Exactly the key difference right there.I don’t care for there free shit except gas when I’m leaving.I go to win and leave and if I lose I don’t throw good money after bad,I take the loss and live to fight another day.i have friends that lose 5k everytime and keep going back cause they like free drinks but if you lose 5k those drinks are very expensive haha.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: seCrawler on March 30, 2019, 08:21:24 AM
+23 ($2300) units on my bookie but i haven't been active since 2/1.  Don't mess with casinos, given odds favor the house, so what's the point?  Play one PowerBall ticket every couple of weeks.     
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SF1900 on March 30, 2019, 08:22:27 AM
I just purchased a $1.00 scratch off and lost.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on March 30, 2019, 08:39:19 AM
I just purchased a $1.00 scratch off and lost.  :'( :'(

Can’t stand scratch tickets
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on March 30, 2019, 09:09:09 AM
Gambling on sports is fun.  I dont know enough about casino games to have much of a chance there, unfortunately
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on March 30, 2019, 09:20:15 AM
Gambling on sports is fun.  I dont know enough about casino games to have much of a chance there, unfortunately

Yeah my buddy always tries to get me to bet on sports but I know nothing about them.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Al Doggity on March 30, 2019, 09:27:46 AM
I was at the store today and in front of the line was a lady buying lottery tickets. She had at least 20 lottery tickets and about 20-30 scratch off tickets


Gambling's not my vice. I don't play the lottery and when I go to Vegas or Atlantic City, I stop when I lose $200. I mostly just enjoy those places for recreation.

I do like to buy scratch-off tickets occasionally, but it's not really about the money. I only play one particular game called "Loose Change". Most people who play it seem to know that the more tickets you buy at one time, the more likely you are to break even.  If you buy 5 tickets, you might lose your $5 bucks or win something, but if you buy 15+ you're very likely to get enough small prizes to cover the amount you spent.

Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Prudence on March 30, 2019, 09:31:01 AM
Degenerate gamblers are known liars.
If they lose $100 they'll say they lost $50....if they win $100 they say they won $200.

No better than drug addiction gambling is.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on March 30, 2019, 09:49:28 AM
Degenerate gamblers are known liars.
If they lose $100 they'll say they lost $50....if they win $100 they say they won $200.

No better than drug addiction gambling is.

Or being gay is.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: stuntmovie on March 30, 2019, 09:56:29 AM
Rob, I agree with you almost entirely about gambling in a casino.

Since I live in Vegas I am in a casino about 3 times a week, but I only visit the local casinos that offer a reasonable "opportunity" to walk out with more cash than I walked in with.

So I am selective about which casino I play in .... as well as the games I sit at and those who sit at the same table as myself. (Important shit about that if you are interested!)

For instance ... I NEVER play in any casino on the Strip that pay even money or 6 to 5 when you get a blackjack.  

I consider that to be CHEATING  ... and way over 90% of the Stip casinos cheat at blackjack now-a-days.

And a lot of the Strip casinos are now using CONTINUOUS AUTOMATIC SHUFFELING MACHINES which means tat that machine re-shuffles the cards after ever BJ hand you play.

I never play Craps no more because I find it to damn difficult to walk away from that Crap table as a winner even though I know all the odds and and all the math involved in that game.

And when it comes to the slot machines .. I  have a couple of fvorites that I play exclusively.

Those favorites include BUFFELo and KITTY GLITTER which I find to pay off far better than any other machine I am familiar with within any casino.

I also play video poker and have managed to get 13 ROYALS in my lifetime. But I never played more than 25 cents  .... and most times just  a nickle.

Here in VEGAS it's best to gamble in what we call the local's casinos with my favorite being ELLIS ISLAND  .... no cheating there ( a BJ pays 3-2) and they serve GREAT food at reasonale prices.

The FISH and CHIPS .. the best worldwide I've ever ate!

And the PRIME RIB is ono-ono!

And the BABY BACK RIBS can't be beat but you gotta wait till 1630 hrs because they are only served in their own restaurant.

And the slice of METRO PIZZA with a beer at five-bucks  is also well worth-while.

And I have taught all my kids and grandkids how to play BJ and where to play it ... and they like myself walk out as a winner more often than not

More to say about gambling successfuly in this town but I hear some snores so I''m signing off.

Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: el numero uno on March 30, 2019, 10:27:09 AM
I was at the store today and in front of the line was a lady buying lottery tickets. She had at least 20 lottery tickets and about 20-30 scratch off tickets

On the one hand, if the lady was already wealthy, she likely wouldn't be trying to hit it big.

On the other hand, if she was lower-income, how could she afford to buy all those lottery tickets presumably every week?

Of course, you have to be in it to win it, but I cannot fathom blowing your hard earned money on all those tickets. Clearly, she has never won it big, otherwise should would not be playing anymore.

Do any getbiggers buy this many lottery tickets and/or scratch offs?

I've bought tickets twice in my life.

I understand a little bit of probabilities, and I know how hard is to hit a considerable price, so I don't bother buying.

My dad has been buying a couple tickets per week for the last 30 years. He's never won anything other than a couple of dollars. He has spent an equivalent of $3000 in tickets in his life ($2 per week times 52 weeks times 30 years).

You may argue that someone like my dad is doing wrong, but you have to understand that gambling is fun for them, and as long as they don't over spend, it's a harmless hobby.

I've actually spent like $1000 in videogames in my entire life, and I'm 30. By the time I'm 60 (and I hope to reach that age) I would have spent way more money in videogames than my dad did in lottery tickets.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: hazbin on March 30, 2019, 11:05:52 AM
i've lost about 85% of my wealth at casinos
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SF1900 on March 30, 2019, 02:53:03 PM
i've lost about 85% of my wealth at casinos

Damn, really?

What made you keep gambling?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Dave D on March 30, 2019, 02:56:30 PM
i've lost about 85% of my wealth at casinos

What have you done with the other 15%?

Are you good with money and can afford to spend it recklessly?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SF1900 on March 30, 2019, 02:57:44 PM
What have you done with the other 15%?

Are you good with money and can afford to spend it recklessly?

Dave, can you imagine Mr. Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, rolling into a casino!!!

He's a high roller! They probably roll out the red carpet for him. I can only imagine him pulling up in his Mercedes Benz!
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Henda on March 30, 2019, 03:07:45 PM
Play the national lottery when it’s on (wed and sat) just one line and only keep doing it as it’s numbers we picked and sort of feel stuck putting it on in case we stop and they ever came up otherwise would have jacked it in years ago. Never gamble in any other way
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SF1900 on March 30, 2019, 03:10:15 PM
Play the national lottery when it’s on (wed and sat) just one line and only keep doing it as it’s numbers we picked and sort of feel stuck putting it on in case we stop and they ever came up otherwise would have jacked it in years ago. Never gamble in any other way


Henda, if you won the lottery, would you give any money to getbiggers?!?!?!
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Bevo on March 30, 2019, 03:32:23 PM
Henda, if you won the lottery, would you give any money to getbiggers?!?!?!

He won’t give money to minority getbiggers  ;D
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Bevo on March 30, 2019, 03:33:51 PM
Dave, can you imagine Mr. Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, rolling into a casino!!!

He's a high roller! They probably roll out the red carpet for him. I can only imagine him pulling up in his Mercedes Benz!

Vince only rolls in a Bentley or Rolls Royce, other cars are for peasants
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SF1900 on March 30, 2019, 03:39:27 PM
Vince only rolls in a Bentley or Rolls Royce, other cars are for peasants

Mr. Goodrum would likely pick up Mr. Basile and they would go cruisin' around and then head to Gold's Gym in California. Afterward, they would go out for a nice dinner in order to ensure they do not miss their 30 minute window of opportunity. Afterwards, they would go back to the Marriot for........well, we will keep that for another time.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Darren Avey on March 30, 2019, 03:55:33 PM
Football. Good money to be made from inplay markets.  Barca at 0-0 at the hour mark was well worth 50 quid at 4/5. Easy 40 profit and then similar on the Benfica game that just finished
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Dave D on March 30, 2019, 05:39:56 PM
Dave, can you imagine Mr. Vince Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HPP, CEO, rolling into a casino!!!

He's a high roller! They probably roll out the red carpet for him. I can only imagine him pulling up in his Mercedes Benz!


Vince is at a whole other  level.

I've been talking with Coach to see if he will send Vince some tshirts to wear on his YouTube channel. Coach is nervous that something like that would cause exponential growth and his company wouldn't be able to handle it.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Henda on March 31, 2019, 12:50:50 AM
Henda, if you won the lottery, would you give any money to getbiggers?!?!?!

Honestly is a few I’d help if they needed anything, problem being nobody would know as I wouldn’t tell anyone I’d won the lottery if I ever did and would still claim to be hard up
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: rayshow on February 07, 2020, 03:29:09 AM
When I realized I am not winning on dice and blackjack casinos, I end up stopping my gambling adventure, almost promptly. I do gamble only twice to once a week as I really like playing craps here (https://onlinecraps.ca/). But I never rput my money on stake as I know houses always win:)
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 07, 2020, 04:10:36 AM
The only way you are winning in a casino these days is if you're getting comped and playing perfectly, eg 10% back on losses. Free or very cheap food and drink and hotel rooms help.

Anyone hitting the casino regularly who says they are winning are full of shit. The only exception would be a world class poker player.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Darren Avey on February 07, 2020, 05:19:38 AM
Good money to be made sports trading.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 07, 2020, 05:28:45 AM
Good money to be made sports trading.


That just looks like straight up sports betting not trading.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2020, 05:36:34 AM
My mother has hit 1000.00 on scratch off,she goes to atlantic city 2x month all comped and vegas  4x yr all comped..her and her hussband have hit 4000k to 15k many times ..they are crazy.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Darren Avey on February 07, 2020, 05:37:14 AM
That just looks like straight up sports betting not trading.

I occasionally lay
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 07, 2020, 05:45:33 AM
I occasionally lay

Keep up the good work then
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 07, 2020, 08:44:56 AM
Isn’t the stock market gambling a well?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 07, 2020, 09:49:28 AM
Isn’t the stock market gambling a well?
Yes, all speculation is gambling.  Playing the market is actually more risky because you have no control over the market or what individual stocks will do.  With gambling you have total control over your money unless you are compulsive.

I started betting sports as a sophomore in high school and just this year started playing baccarat online and in casinos.  I never play the lottery and no longer mess with the stock market.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: el numero uno on February 07, 2020, 10:08:17 AM
+23 ($2300) units on my bookie but i haven't been active since 2/1.  Don't mess with casinos, given odds favor the house, so what's the point?  Play one PowerBall ticket every couple of weeks.     

Do you even Statistics?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: G_Thang on February 07, 2020, 10:41:01 AM
That just looks like straight up sports betting not trading.

the only way you can get 99% positive is to play the difference between 2 bookies which is time consuming and you need lay 2 big beats to get the 1-2% return.  you could look at it as part of your portfolio. anyway i was up almost 4k at 5dimes but cashed out. just left $14. i just don't have the time.  either you do it casually or gamble.   
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: MAXX on February 07, 2020, 10:45:40 AM
Good money to be made sports trading.

so you think you can beat the professional odds makers basically.

keep dreaming.... you will be broke in no-time with that attitude. Then again you probably already are.

gambling is for fools.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2020, 10:47:02 AM
the only way you can get 99% positive is to play the difference between 2 bookies which is time consuming and you need lay 2 big beats to get the 1-2% return.  you could look at it as part of your portfolio. anyway i was up almost 4k at 5dimes but cashed out. just left $14. i just don't have the time.  either you do it casually or gamble.   

If you middle two bookies and lose, you still pay vig, no?

For instance, if the total is 44 with one, and 46 with the other, bet $100 over 44, $100 under 46, hoping to middle.  Unless it's 45 or a push, you lose $10.

Or is that not what you meant?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 07, 2020, 11:02:46 AM
The poorest people buy lottery tickets. I find no thrill in gambling because I understand basic math.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: MAXX on February 07, 2020, 11:08:37 AM
The poorest people buy lottery tickets. I find no thrill in gambling because I understand basic math.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 07, 2020, 12:24:39 PM
the only way you can get 99% positive is to play the difference between 2 bookies which is time consuming and you need lay 2 big beats to get the 1-2% return.  you could look at it as part of your portfolio. anyway i was up almost 4k at 5dimes but cashed out. just left $14. i just don't have the time.  either you do it casually or gamble.   

This was very easy to do online 10 years ago. Guys who were doing it 20 years made 7 figures.

Try do this now online with most bookies and they have software that will spot your betting patterns and they will stop taking your bets.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 07, 2020, 12:39:45 PM
If you middle two bookies and lose, you still pay vig, no?

For instance, if the total is 44 with one, and 46 with the other, bet $100 over 44, $100 under 46, hoping to middle.  Unless it's 45 or a push, you lose $10.

Or is that not what you meant?

You guys have it slightly different in the US, but here is how I would it.

I'd try find a bookie offering under 46 at evens and another offering over 44 at evens. I'd then pray the total was 45 so both bets win. Alternatively I'd look for a lay market for the score being exactly 45 and placa lay bet. eg placing a big bet for the score to not be 45 at very small odds. This gives me a guaranteed profit.

This kinda betting opportunity is as rare as hens teeth these days though.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on February 07, 2020, 12:40:50 PM
Exactly.

Math is my thing and so is gambling.Let me tell you there is no better feeling in the world than placing big bets at a casino and riding the wave.Nothing else compares.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2020, 12:43:54 PM
You guys have it slightly different in the US, but here is how I would it.

I'd try find a bookie offering under 46 at evens and another offering over 44 at evens. I'd then pray the total was 45 so both bets win. Alternatively I'd look for a lay market for the score being exactly 45 and placa lay bet. eg placing a small bet for the score to not be 45. This gives me a guaranteed profit.

This kinda betting opportunity is as rare as hens teeth these days though.

That makes sense, thank you for answering.

Here, most bets have a 10% vig attached....so if a book balances its bets, it would still make $.

I haven't heard the term "evens" but that feels like no vig.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: funk51 on February 07, 2020, 12:45:44 PM
years back i used to blow a whole dollar a week on the pick six wildcard. picked 5 out of 6 numbers 3 times became so aggravated the third time quit for good.i won 850, 1300 and 1100 dollars on the three wins. the third time the number i missed was 15 i picked 14 that ended it. would have won a couple million except for one digit. :'(
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 07, 2020, 12:51:34 PM
That makes sense, thank you for answering.

Here, most bets have a 10% vig attached....so if a book balances its bets, it would still make $.

I haven't heard the term "evens" but that feels like no vig.


I think evens is no vig. 2.0

I may be wrong with my use of terminology as I didn't bother much with US bookies as they were generally very stingy with their odds. Pinnacle was the only one worth using.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 07, 2020, 01:16:04 PM
Math is my thing and so is gambling.Let me tell you there is no better feeling in the world than placing big bets at a casino and riding the wave.Nothing else compares.


Sounds a lot like a guy I knew talking about his old heroin habit....
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: DooM_ on February 07, 2020, 01:31:41 PM
i know of several people who have lost everything gambling . . .
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2020, 02:20:44 PM
My mother has hit 1000.00 on scratch off,she goes to atlantic city 2x month all comped and vegas  4x yr all comped..her and her hussband have hit 4000k to 15k many times ..they are crazy.

A friend of mine won $3,000 playing the machines at a bar. Everyone thought it was great. I wondered how much it cost him to win. Gambling rarely pays off which is why I don't do it, except for the occasional $1 Megabucks or $2 Powerball tickets. I once won $40 on Powerball. Yippee!
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2020, 02:24:17 PM
Isn’t the stock market gambling a well?

Yes. I think that's why I cashed out my investment in it at a loss. -Couldn't take the stress and worry about what was happening to my money. I like a sure thing. So now, that money is in a high yield savings account with my bank.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2020, 02:27:35 PM
The poorest people buy lottery tickets. I find no thrill in gambling because I understand basic math.

Not always the poorest people. I consider it entertainment. Fantasizing about being super rich is worth spending a buck on every now and then.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: MAXX on February 07, 2020, 02:43:40 PM
Math is my thing and so is gambling.Let me tell you there is no better feeling in the world than placing big bets at a casino and riding the wave.Nothing else compares.
doesn't make any sense....

you dont beat the bank unless counting cards, and by then it's not gambling anymore.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2020, 02:54:03 PM
doesn't make any sense....

you dont beat the bank unless counting cards, and by then it's not gambling anymore.

And if you get caught:

"If you get caught cheating in a Nevada casino, you could be charged with a felony. Those convicted may receive anywhere from one to six years in jail and/or a fine of up to $10,000. They will also have to pay restitution to the casino. In Nevada, once a casino has detained and questioned an alleged cheater and found evidence of wrongdoing, they hand the case over to police. Financial crimes units typically take on casino cheating cases."

However, counting cards is not technically illegal unless you utilize a machine or an accomplice. People who get caught counting cards can be arrested for trespassing if they had previously been given a no trespass citation by the casino. It is certain you will be 'inconvenienced' by casino security if caught counting cards.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 07, 2020, 04:27:15 PM
I used to play poker for years but hadn't played in a while. Moved 15 minutes away from a Hard Rock Casino with a poker room that is pretty nice. They run promotions all the time. I decided I wanted to get back in it but didn't feel confident after a long layoff so I asked a player I respect recommend a book for the $1-2 $2-5 no limit level. After studying the book I started playing in August. Few times a week. I downloaded an app to keep track. Just on promotions like high hand or hot seat I'm up $3100 for 2019 (That money is taxed ) but I'm averaging $2000 a month positive. Ive logged a lot of hours and know most of the regulars now. It's fun and supplements my retirement. I play about 4 days a week now, some weeks less. I treat it as a hobby with the potential to pay off. I buy in for $200. If I lose it I quit for the session.   
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 07, 2020, 04:38:44 PM
I used to play poker for years but hadn't played in a while. Moved 15 minutes away from a Hard Rock Casino with a poker room that is pretty nice. They run promotions all the time. I decided I wanted to get back in it but didn't feel confident after a long layoff so I asked a player I respect recommend a book for the $1-2 $2-5 no limit level. After studying the book I started playing in August. Few times a week. I downloaded an app to keep track. Just on promotions like high hand or hot seat I'm up $3100 for 2019 (That money is taxed ) but I'm averaging $2000 a month positive. Ive logged a lot of hours and know most of the regulars now. It's fun and supplements my retirement. I play about 4 days a week now, some weeks less. I treat it as a hobby with the potential to pay off. I buy in for $200. If I lose it I quit for the session.   

If this is true I'd stop whilst I was up.

You could be a really good  player, but all it takes is someone to come along with some basic poker playing software and they'd clean up.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 07, 2020, 04:45:20 PM
doesn't make any sense....

you dont beat the bank unless counting cards, and by then it's not gambling anymore.

Counting cards aint easy. People who can do it all in their head tend do it just for fun or the challenge. Usually these people are highly intelligent and they don't need money. It's still gambling, just you have the edge now.

Also as prime has explained it's a bitch if you get caught. It's really not worth it
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 07, 2020, 05:05:49 PM
I gamble three ways.

1. Craps

2. Roulette

3. Farting when I’m not sure if shit will come out

I’ve lost at all three.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on February 07, 2020, 05:35:47 PM
doesn't make any sense....

you dont beat the bank unless counting cards, and by then it's not gambling anymore.

When I play blackjack I count cards but not perfectly but it does give me an edge.I meant I’m extremely good at math and always have been and I like to gamble so even though I’m great at math I love gambling.Ive been on a very good run for the last 6 weeks as well.Been 13 times and won 12 out of 13.So now I’m taking another little break.for a regular guy I gamble a lot time and money wise and in my life it has worked out for the best.i just get great runs and I will bring someone Witt me once in a whirl and they pretty much lose everytime and I’m usually winning.Just a for instance last time I went a couple days ago I went in 8k and was down to 500 in an hour or so.Then on my last 500 bet I went on a streak and turned 500 into 16k in 6 bets In 10 min.Im not bragging just letting people know this is what I do a lot.Its a blast.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: MAXX on February 08, 2020, 01:16:16 AM
When I play blackjack I count cards but not perfectly but it does give me an edge.I meant I’m extremely good at math and always have been and I like to gamble so even though I’m great at math I love gambling.Ive been on a very good run for the last 6 weeks as well.Been 13 times and won 12 out of 13.So now I’m taking another little break.for a regular guy I gamble a lot time and money wise and in my life it has worked out for the best.i just get great runs and I will bring someone Witt me once in a whirl and they pretty much lose everytime and I’m usually winning.Just a for instance last time I went a couple days ago I went in 8k and was down to 500 in an hour or so.Then on my last 500 bet I went on a streak and turned 500 into 16k in 6 bets In 10 min.Im not bragging just letting people know this is what I do a lot.Its a blast.
But if you are able to count cards then it's not gambling anymore. Gambling is when the odds are stacked against you.

Say you are able to count cards which turns to odds in your favour by 54 vs 46, or something like that. Then it's not "gambling" anymore because you know in the long run you will win.
Just like the casinos knows in the long run, they will win so it's not gambling for them, it's a business. Their profit is anything from 2% to 10% of the money put in, based on the game played. Because the odds are usually anything from 52vs48 to 60vs40 in their favour.

So for every 1000$ put in they, the casino makes 20-100$. Knowing this, a reasonable person will not go to a casino. Only dumb unecated low IQ folks do.

Unless it's a game without bank and even odds like texas hold em, but then it's not gambling, because it's a skill, a sport.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 08, 2020, 04:01:14 AM
But if you are able to count cards then it's not gambling anymore. Gambling is when the odds are stacked against you.

Say you are able to count cards which turns to odds in your favour by 54 vs 46, or something like that. Then it's not "gambling" anymore because you know in the long run you will win.
Just like the casinos knows in the long run, they will win so it's not gambling for them, it's a business. Their profit is anything from 2% to 10% of the money put in, based on the game played. Because the odds are usually anything from 52vs48 to 60vs40 in their favour.

So for every 1000$ put in they, the casino makes 20-100$. Knowing this, a reasonable person will not go to a casino. Only dumb unecated low IQ folks do.

Unless it's a game without bank and even odds like texas hold em, but then it's not gambling, because it's a skill, a sport.

Sir please, you can not make up your own definition for words.

What you describe is still gambling. The most accurate description for it would be advantage gambling or advantage play.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 08, 2020, 04:24:00 AM
The poorest people buy lottery tickets. I find no thrill in gambling because I understand basic math.
Sure the casino has a slight mathematical advantage but a smart gambler has every other advantage.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: sync pulse on February 08, 2020, 04:38:05 AM
i've lost about 85% of my wealth at casinos

I went to a psychologist for a while to help me deal with abuse from my Mother...At the end of the very first session he told me, "I can tell you right now that you particularly should avoid casinos...and this advise is good for the rest of your life."
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on February 08, 2020, 05:25:47 AM
But if you are able to count cards then it's not gambling anymore. Gambling is when the odds are stacked against you.

Say you are able to count cards which turns to odds in your favour by 54 vs 46, or something like that. Then it's not "gambling" anymore because you know in the long run you will win.
Just like the casinos knows in the long run, they will win so it's not gambling for them, it's a business. Their profit is anything from 2% to 10% of the money put in, based on the game played. Because the odds are usually anything from 52vs48 to 60vs40 in their favour.

So for every 1000$ put in they, the casino makes 20-100$. Knowing this, a reasonable person will not go to a casino. Only dumb unecated low IQ folks do.

Unless it's a game without bank and even odds like texas hold em, but then it's not gambling, because it's a skill, a sport.

Counting cards is not 100% certain at best I’d say by yourself without a team would give you 1-2% advantage so it’s still gambling.

Sir please, you can not make up your own definition for words.

What you describe is still gambling. The most accurate description for it would be advantage gambling or advantage play.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: XFACTOR on February 08, 2020, 05:57:59 AM
Have you won more than you lost or vice versa?

You will never hear a gambler say they lose, ever.

I go to Vegas quite a bit, which is the only place I gamble. I'm definitely down over the many years but I'm good with losing a bit and taking my comps everywhere.  Love the temporary action and adrenaline of playing big hands. The ROI is there for me

Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: IroNat on February 08, 2020, 06:33:10 AM
Losing money is a downer for me.

I never got interested in gambling in casinos or even playing poker.

Not into bowling either.

I did used to make bets while playing golf but just small change.

I'm very cautious about getting into addictive pursuits. 
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 08, 2020, 08:30:12 AM
You will never hear a gambler say they lose, ever.

I go to Vegas quite a bit, which is the only place I gamble. I'm definitely down over the many years but I'm good with losing a bit and taking my comps everywhere.  Love the temporary action and adrenaline of playing big hands. The ROI is there for me


This is why you keep a log of all of your betting activities.  This eliminates the gambler's fallacy and any other delusions.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: AbrahamG on February 08, 2020, 08:32:57 AM
You will never hear a gambler say they lose, ever.

I go to Vegas quite a bit, which is the only place I gamble. I'm definitely down over the many years but I'm good with losing a bit and taking my comps everywhere.  Love the temporary action and adrenaline of playing big hands. The ROI is there for me



Lots of getbig heads continue to explode!
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on February 08, 2020, 12:18:37 PM
This is why you keep a log of all of your betting activities.  This eliminates the gambler's fallacy and any other delusions.

Exactly,I write down every day I go.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 08, 2020, 12:37:48 PM
When I play blackjack I count cards but not perfectly but it does give me an edge.I meant I’m extremely good at math and always have been and I like to gamble so even though I’m great at math I love gambling.Ive been on a very good run for the last 6 weeks as well.Been 13 times and won 12 out of 13.So now I’m taking another little break.for a regular guy I gamble a lot time and money wise and in my life it has worked out for the best.i just get great runs and I will bring someone Witt me once in a whirl and they pretty much lose everytime and I’m usually winning.Just a for instance last time I went a couple days ago I went in 8k and was down to 500 in an hour or so.Then on my last 500 bet I went on a streak and turned 500 into 16k in 6 bets In 10 min.Im not bragging just letting people know this is what I do a lot.Its a blast.

Being able to count cards when the dealer uses 6-8 decks is pretty amazing. There's no way my brain could maintain the level of concentration that it would require to remember which of the 416 cards have been played.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 08, 2020, 12:42:20 PM
Sure the casino has a slight mathematical advantage but a smart gambler has every other advantage.


Fools, the lot of you.  :D

Chasing easy money is a poor trait, sorry...it just is.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 08, 2020, 12:45:08 PM
Not always the poorest people. I consider it entertainment. Fantasizing about being super rich is worth spending a buck on every now and then.


When I was a kid I heard something like this - "if you play $50 a week(era of $1 lotto) for 50 years you have less than a 1 in 50 chance of winning."

That was enough for me. Like I said, just understand basic math and that they don't have fancy carpet in a casino on the back of winners.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Powerlift66 on February 08, 2020, 12:50:20 PM
Never did the gambling thing, never cared for giving away money to Casino's.

Guy at work (recently shit-canned for something he did outside of work I'm told) is like a facilities guy, probably doesnt make much money.
Smokes 24x7 (always outside) and reeks of booze every day. (Bad alchy).

Always borrowing 20-bucks from people on like a MON (smokes, scratch tickets). Must spend all his money on the weekends (smoke, drink, scratch's).

So he finally hit a 20K scratch card last year (he buys the 20.00 tickets, probably the reason he never has money).
A week after the 20K win, he borrows 20-bucks off of me. I said "you're kidding, you just won 20k" He said "that's long gone". (In one week).

(Hopefully paid off some debts). Nice guy too, helpful, hard worker, etc. Sucks to see him lose his job recently, but he must have done something to have caused that.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 08, 2020, 12:58:37 PM
This guy I knew married the hottest chick. She was so fucking hot and beautiful.  Moron had a gambling issue. Little did she know that he gambled away all of their money and mortgages the house on sports bets.  She dumped his ass when she found out.  This broad was one in a billion smoking hot.  Guy is a fucking retard.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Grape Ape on February 08, 2020, 01:02:38 PM
But if you are able to count cards then it's not gambling anymore. Gambling is when the odds are stacked against you.

Say you are able to count cards which turns to odds in your favour by 54 vs 46, or something like that. Then it's not "gambling" anymore because you know in the long run you will win.
Just like the casinos knows in the long run, they will win so it's not gambling for them, it's a business. Their profit is anything from 2% to 10% of the money put in, based on the game played. Because the odds are usually anything from 52vs48 to 60vs40 in their favour.

So for every 1000$ put in they, the casino makes 20-100$. Knowing this, a reasonable person will not go to a casino. Only dumb unecated low IQ folks do.

Unless it's a game without bank and even odds like texas hold em, but then it's not gambling, because it's a skill, a sport.

It's still gambling because you don't necessarily have unlimited funds or time to play the long game for the odds to come to fruition.


Casion gambling is always a factor of  luck, timing, skill, and the ability to know when to stop.


Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on February 08, 2020, 01:37:39 PM
Being able to count cards when the dealer uses 6-8 decks is pretty amazing. There's no way my brain could maintain the level of concentration that it would require to remember which of the 416 cards have been played.

Yeah when my wife comes or I bring different people here and there they can’t comprehend it but math has always been my thing.Sucked at all subject is school but Aced all math classes.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 08, 2020, 01:53:48 PM

Fools, the lot of you.  :D

Chasing easy money is a poor trait, sorry...it just is.
It's not foolish if you win.  I know 90% plus lose but that's not my problem.  Discipline and control is required and that eliminates most gamblers.  The casino has a 1 1/2% advantage on baccarat.  That is their only advantage.  My advantages:

1) I don't have to play every hand or any at all

2) I can wager any amount of cash

3) I can change tables or casinos

4) I can change strategies

Again, you must keep track of all wins and losses so you know exactly how much you are winning and losing.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 08, 2020, 02:35:08 PM
Being able to count cards when the dealer uses 6-8 decks is pretty amazing. There's no way my brain could maintain the level of concentration that it would require to remember which of the 416 cards have been played.

You can do a rough count, eg how many 10 cards have been dealt, how many aces, how many 7,8,9s and 4,5,6s etc.

When the count is in your favour you try take advantage. eg dealer is dealt a 6 and you are dealt two 10s. Deck is stacked with 10s so you might spilt rather then hold. You only have a marginal advantage at best and the window of opportunity is narrow.

If you can do all this mental arithmetic under intense scrutiny, look calm and act natural  then chances are your skills have earned you decent wealth elsewhere and you'd just be doing it fun.  It certainly not worth the time and effort in the modern casino environment.

Your everyday gambler, who says they regularly beat the casino is straight up lying.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 08, 2020, 02:41:28 PM
You can do a rough count, eg how many 10 cards have been dealt, how many aces, how many 7,8,9s and 4,5,6s etc.

When the count is in your favour you try take advantage. eg dealer is dealt a 6 and you are dealt two 10s. Deck is stacked with 10s so you might spilt rather then hold. You only have a marginal advantage at best and the window of opportunity is narrow.

If you can do all this mental arithmetic under intense scrutiny, look calm and act natural  then chances are your skills have earned you decent wealth elsewhere and you'd just be doing it fun.  It certainly not worth the time and effort in the modern casino environment.

Your everyday gambler, who says they regularly beat the casino is straight up lying.
Card counting worked in the 70's but almost impossible now.  Too many decks are used and they can reshuffle if they think there is any counting going on.  At least they don't do to counters what they did in the movie Casino.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on February 08, 2020, 03:01:22 PM
You can do a rough count, eg how many 10 cards have been dealt, how many aces, how many 7,8,9s and 4,5,6s etc.

When the count is in your favour you try take advantage. eg dealer is dealt a 6 and you are dealt two 10s. Deck is stacked with 10s so you might spilt rather then hold. You only have a marginal advantage at best and the window of opportunity is narrow.

If you can do all this mental arithmetic under intense scrutiny, look calm and act natural  then chances are your skills have earned you decent wealth elsewhere and you'd just be doing it fun.  It certainly not worth the time and effort in the modern casino environment.

Your everyday gambler, who says they regularly beat the casino is straight up lying.

Not true.Not sure if I’m lucky or whatever you want to call it but I’ve made a lot of money at casionos.the last 2 months have been amazing for me at casino.For a regular guy not a rich guy.Not gonna argue it but I know what I’ve made and lost and I’m way ahead.Simple as that.This includes playing some table games and poker at the casino and in private games.

And I’m not bragging or trying to show off I just do a few things pretty well and gambling is one of them.Been gambling pretty consistently for 20 years and I have a wife 3 kids house etc... and I gamble a lot and if I’m not rich I must be doing something right or i wouldn’t have anything left.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Darren Avey on February 08, 2020, 03:10:25 PM
Fucking Juventus and Schalke cost me a lot of money today.  >:( >:( :(
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 08, 2020, 05:41:59 PM
Not true.Not sure if I’m lucky or whatever you want to call it but I’ve made a lot of money at casionos.the last 2 months have been amazing for me at casino.For a regular guy not a rich guy.Not gonna argue it but I know what I’ve made and lost and I’m way ahead.Simple as that.This includes playing some table games and poker at the casino and in private games.

And I’m not bragging or trying to show off I just do a few things pretty well and gambling is one of them.Been gambling pretty consistently for 20 years and I have a wife 3 kids house etc... and I gamble a lot and if I’m not rich I must be doing something right or i wouldn’t have anything left.

Sir please, you can't expect people to take you seriously when you say you're not even sure why you're winning.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on February 08, 2020, 06:34:27 PM
Sir please, you can't expect people to take you seriously when you say you're not even sure why you're winning.

Think what you would like as omit doesn’t change my situation.Going tomorro So I will report back. luck has a lot to do with it as well so yeah I can’t say that my card counting does all the winning.Luck,skill and the ability to read people comes in to play depending which games you are playing.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on February 08, 2020, 06:38:24 PM
Card counting worked in the 70's but almost impossible now.  Too many decks are used and they can reshuffle if they think there is any counting going on.  At least they don't do to counters what they did in the movie Casino.

Card counting is not a guarantee just a slight edge so it does help to keep track of high and low cards with the plus/minus syste which I use. i go to Mohegan sun for 95% of my gambling and that’s been 20 years and they have no idea that I’m counting anything.Its not illegal to keep a card count in your head so they don’t know shit.I imagine if you had a team working for hundreds of thousands and your bet changes drastically they would suspect something but other than that I don’t think they care.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 08, 2020, 06:49:54 PM

Fools, the lot of you.  :D

Chasing easy money is a poor trait, sorry...it just is.

Count me out of the fools. It's just entertainment to me. Winning is like putting whipped cream on strawberry shortcake. The angle food cake, ice-cream and fresh strawberries are delicious without it. 
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 08, 2020, 09:36:35 PM
It's not foolish if you win. 



Hahaha. This is why it's classified as a disease. Strong bargaining.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: kreator on February 08, 2020, 10:23:24 PM
Quote from: Darren Avey link=topic=653017.msg9346520#msg9346520plate date=1581203425
Fucking Juventus and Schalke cost me a lot of money today.  >:( >:( :(

I tuned in shortly after Juve was in the lead and contemplated to put a small amount on Verona to win. It was like 29 or something like that. Had a feeling Juve was ready to lose this one after I saw the statistics on bet365. I like betting LIVE here and there. I also work as a live scout on weekends. I‘ve been to more than 700 soccer games in the last years and you see a lot of fixed matches.   
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: kreator on February 08, 2020, 10:25:23 PM
Card counting is not a guarantee just a slight edge so it does help to keep track of high and low cards with the plus/minus syste which I use. i go to Mohegan sun for 95% of my gambling and that’s been 20 years and they have no idea that I’m counting anything.Its not illegal to keep a card count in your head so they don’t know shit.I imagine if you had a team working for hundreds of thousands and your bet changes drastically they would suspect something but other than that I don’t think they care.

There‘s a movie with Kevin Spacey about card counting. Have u seen it?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Darren Avey on February 09, 2020, 01:22:12 AM
I tuned in shortly after Juve was in the lead and contemplated to put a small amount on Verona to win. It was like 29 or something like that. Had a feeling Juve was ready to lose this one after I saw the statistics on bet365. I like betting LIVE here and there. I also work as a live scout on weekends. I‘ve been to more than 700 soccer games in the last years and you see a lot of fixed matches.   

True, they didnt deserve the lead. Verona were dominating
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 09, 2020, 03:42:25 AM


Hahaha. This is why it's classified as a disease. Strong bargaining.
Again, that is why you keep a log of your winnings and losses.  Problem gamblers do not do this.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: robcguns on February 09, 2020, 04:44:54 AM
There‘s a movie with Kevin Spacey about card counting. Have u seen it?

Yeah 21 saw it years ago. my favorite gambling movies are rounders and Mississippi grind and the gambler.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Darren Avey on February 09, 2020, 03:14:53 PM
£226.07 profit this weekend. I ve had worse, 500 down in a weekend and I've had better, 4 grand up over a weekend
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 11, 2020, 07:33:02 PM
If this is true I'd stop whilst I was up.

You could be a really good  player, but all it takes is someone to come along with some basic poker playing software and they'd clean up.

How? I play live games
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: G_Thang on February 12, 2020, 06:56:03 AM
If you middle two bookies and lose, you still pay vig, no?

For instance, if the total is 44 with one, and 46 with the other, bet $100 over 44, $100 under 46, hoping to middle.  Unless it's 45 or a push, you lose $10.

Or is that not what you meant?



Arbitrage
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 12, 2020, 07:10:21 AM
How? I play live games

When you said you use an app I thought you meant to play online, but if you are killing it in life games then you're good to go!
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: D.O.A. on February 12, 2020, 07:27:02 AM
I never ever gamble or have. I can't even play cards.lol
Stupid way to spend money!
If I need more money I rather do some Extra work.
To each his own.. 8)
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: el numero uno on February 15, 2020, 04:45:32 AM
The joy of gambling is the rush people get when thinking what they would do with the money if they win.

For $1.00 here and there, that's totally fine.

My dad has been spending $1-2 dollars on lottery tickets every week for the last 20 years. That's $1000-2000. I've spent around $1000 in videogames in half the time. :/




Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: stuntmovie on February 15, 2020, 08:43:36 AM
I live in Vegas and visit the LOCAL CASINOS 3 to 4 days each and every week ....... and I have to agree with just about everything ROBO has mentioned regarding casino gambling.

But unlike ROBOGUNS .... I am a damn cheap gambler with a $20 to $40 daily 'risk limit'.

And like Rob I am not a sports gambler and  limit my $20-$40 bankroll to blackjack and a couple of slot machines which I think I mentioned earlier ... Buffalo and Kitty Glitter.

I don't keep written records of my wins and losses but I know for a fact that I depart the casino with more $ than I entered that casino about 70% of the time.

So I am ahead financially and still enjoy all the free stuff which includes buffets, drinks, hats, t-shirts, and tons of other shit that the casinos offer to lure me in.

Some GetBiggers say that gambling is similar to 'throwing money away' which may be true for some GetBiggers, but when I lose after a $20 to $40 blackjack session .... I leave that table knowing that I had a good time while some other family members pursue other forms of entertainment in the showroom  that will end  up costing way more than $40 for the same period of entertainment.

I could spend $40 (if I lost my entire bankroll) for the entertainment I get playing blackjack while others  spend $100+  to see some famous singer sing some songs which I can hear on the radio.

(Singers should be heard ... but never seen!)

In other words ....Even though I am a cheap gambler and am always happy when I simply double my 'bankroll' ....  I totally agree with Roboguns.







 
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 15, 2020, 12:24:39 PM
I gamble every time I fuck a whore
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: IroNat on February 15, 2020, 01:37:43 PM
We have many successful gamblers on Getbig.

Everybody wins most of the time.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2020, 02:46:08 PM
I live in Vegas and visit the LOCAL CASINOS 3 to 4 days each and every week ....... and I have to agree with just about everything ROBO has mentioned regarding casino gambling.

But unlike ROBOGUNS .... I am a damn cheap gambler with a $20 to $40 daily 'risk limit'.

And like Rob I am not a sports gambler and  limit my $20-$40 bankroll to blackjack and a couple of slot machines which I think I mentioned earlier ... Buffalo and Kitty Glitter.

I don't keep written records of my wins and losses but I know for a fact that I depart the casino with more $ than I entered that casino about 70% of the time.

So I am ahead financially and still enjoy all the free stuff which includes buffets, drinks, hats, t-shirts, and tons of other shit that the casinos offer to lure me in.

Some GetBiggers say that gambling is similar to 'throwing money away' which may be true for some GetBiggers, but when I lose after a $20 to $40 blackjack session .... I leave that table knowing that I had a good time while some other family members pursue other forms of entertainment in the showroom  that will end  up costing way more than $40 for the same period of entertainment.

I could spend $40 (if I lost my entire bankroll) for the entertainment I get playing blackjack while others  spend $100+  to see some famous singer sing some songs which I can hear on the radio.

(Singers should be heard ... but never seen!)

In other words ....Even though I am a cheap gambler and am always happy when I simply double my 'bankroll' ....  I totally agree with Roboguns.



If you don't keep records how do you know whether you're ahead or not?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 15, 2020, 03:25:24 PM
I gamble every time I fuck a whore
That's what condoms are for.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: stuntmovie on February 15, 2020, 04:15:54 PM
PRIME, I don't keep any gambling win/loss record ...  but I do set aside about $500 each month for entertainment purposes which is mainly for the blackjack table and other minor casino bets, and the vast majority of times I end up each month with a bit more than my original 500.

So that 70% figure I mentioned earlier is only a an estimate ... but a damn close estimate!

That is the extent of my record keeping, but I do help a couple of friends and one whale with their Fed Taxes each year and the whale claims that he lost over $50,000 during the last three month of 2019 and wants to write that amount off against his winnings on his tax return.

But he ain't too damn upset because he has a high end player's card gets a complimentary pool side cabana during the summer months plus fine dining for him and his guest throughout the year.

Somehow ... that keeps him happy to keep on losing.

As you may or may not know, the casino has to report any win to the IRS that exceeds $1,200.

And that is why many high-rollers do not use a Player's Club Card.

If he does try to write that $50,000 off the IRS requires him to keep an accurate and precise record every time he sits at a BJ table.

And that record should include casino name, date, time?, and blackjack table number.

Only then is he allowed to deduct his losses from his winnings.

But that loss is limited and cannot exceed his winnings.

OUCH!!

Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: el numero uno on February 15, 2020, 04:24:12 PM
We have many successful gamblers on Getbig.

Everybody wins most of the time.

The fundamentals theorems of Statistics don't apply to Getbiggers.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2020, 04:33:04 PM
PRIME, I don't keep any gambling win/loss record ...  but I do set aside about $500 each month for entertainment purposes which is mainly for the blackjack table and other minor casino bets, and the vast majority of times I end up each month with a bit more than my original 500.

So that 70% figure I mentioned earlier is only a an estimate ... but a damn close estimate!

That is the extent of my record keeping, but I do help a couple of friends and one whale with their Fed Taxes each year and the whale claims that he lost over $50,000 during the last three month of 2019 and wants to write that amount off against his winnings on his tax return.

But he ain't too damn upset because he has a high end player's card gets a complimentary pool side cabana during the summer months plus fine dining for him and his guest throughout the year.

Somehow ... that keeps him happy to keep on losing.

As you may or may not know, the casino has to report any win to the IRS that exceeds $1,200.

And that is why many high-rollers do not use a Player's Club Card.

If he does try to write that $50,000 off the IRS requires him to keep an accurate and precise record every time he sits at a BJ table.

And that record should include casino name, date, time?, and blackjack table number.

Only then is he allowed to deduct his losses from his winnings.

But that loss is limited and cannot exceed is winnings.

OUCH!!

I never looked into the income tax implications of gambling, probably because I don't gamble enough money to cover a dinner out each month. If I remember to buy Megabucks and Powerball tickets for every game in a month, it comes to about $30 total. Lottery tickets are the total extent of my gambling habit.  :)

Since I don't live in Vegas or Reno, getting comped isn't something I think about. Although I have a decent retirement income, I'd never spend $500 a month on gambling whether I could justify it because I was getting free stuff or not. I just don't enjoy gambling that much. To each his own. Everything you say makes sense with regards to considering this your entertainment as long as you'd otherwise actually spend this much on personal amusement. If however, you are merely justifying your gambling expenses, the equation doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: stuntmovie on February 15, 2020, 05:55:19 PM
EL, I have a slight idea of what a mentioned above ... but in my smarter days I was so damn deep into the study of the math involved within the game of CRAPS that it actually led me into the study of basic law of problibility, quantum mechanics, string theory, and all that other incomprehensible shit.

It all started when some older, old time, craps enthusatist  told me that  the math behind the game was originally 'computed' by the slaves who originally came to the south and worked in the cotton fields.

And if you know the math behind the rolling of a pair of dice, you would wonder how the hell those uneducated slaves figured out the theory of probability without some sort of advanced ed-u-ma-ca-tion.

If 2 to 1, 3 to 2, 6 t0 5, or 9 to 5, 7 to 5, and 7 to 6 makes any sense to you , you'd understand what I'm talking about.

But it took me through 4 years of higher learning to understand what those slaves figured out while pick'n cotton.

Not sure if I responded correctly, but I gave it a try anyway!




Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Thespritz0 on February 15, 2020, 10:51:27 PM
I live in Vancouver Canada and I'll give you my take on Casinos... for me, I don't gamble other than buying a Hospital Lottery ticket once or twice a year,
but sometimes I'll go especially when they send the 2-for-1 coupons for the BUFFET in the mail... I'll take my Mom or take out a date and enjoy some amazing
food and usually on Friday and Saturday nights they have a live band so it's cool and a diversion from working and working out all week!!!
GREAT to enjoy a full on CHEAT meal!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 16, 2020, 03:34:23 AM
The fundamentals theorems of Statistics don't apply to Getbiggers.

Are you claiming NO ONE makes a profit gambling?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 16, 2020, 05:13:16 AM
Are you claiming NO ONE makes a profit gambling?

Visiting a casino regularly, playing games of chance and not winning some kind of mega jackpot type thing then no.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: el numero uno on February 16, 2020, 07:29:52 AM
Are you claiming NO ONE makes a profit gambling?

I wrote a post assuming you meant casino games, but deleted it cause you may be talking about sports betting or similar activities.

On casino and lottery games you can make a profit but chances are you won't.

Pretty much every game has a negative expected value, that's it, on average you lose money everytime you play. You may make some money here and there, but in the long run you will lose money.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 16, 2020, 08:12:32 AM
I wrote a post assuming you meant casino games, but deleted it cause you may be talking about sports betting or similar activities.

On casino and lottery games you can make a profit but chances are you won't.

Pretty much every game has a negative expected value, that's it, on average you lose money everytime you play. You may make some money here and there, but in the long run you will lose money.
Of course most will lose money but that's the same with starting a business.  I knew Puggy Pearson in Las Vegas, a man who won the World Series of Poker and gambled every day of his life.  He left the Navy in the 60's and never had a job afterwards, just gambled.  There are those that get rich gambling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puggy_Pearson
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 16, 2020, 08:31:33 AM
Of course most will lose money but that's the same with starting a business.  I knew Puggy Pearson in Las Vegas, a man who won the World Series of Poker and gambled every day of his life.  He left the Navy in the 60's and never had a job afterwards, just gambled.  There are those that get rich gambling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puggy_Pearson

He was a professional poker player. The skill element involved in poker can give you an edge.

However there are people on here claiming they are winning in games of chance where the house has the edge.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 16, 2020, 08:37:24 AM
He was a professional poker player. The skill element involved in poker can give you an edge.

However there are people on here claiming they are winning in games of chance where the house has the edge.
Pearson played every game under the sun.  He used to drive around Vegas in a van and challenge anyone to bet any game with him.  If you had 2 cockroaches and wanted to bet who would win in a race he would take the bet.  He made huge amounts of money betting sports and that's how I met him.

As I posted previously, baccarat has a casino edge of 1.5% which is almost nothing.  The casino has to deal the cards.  The gambler can sit out, bet, change tables, not play at all, or bet using a progressive betting scheme.  If he can't win with those advantages he is not cut out for gambling.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: stuntmovie on February 16, 2020, 09:15:04 AM
Once again ... I gotta say that HUMBLE knows what he's talking about.

And let me add that the HOUSE EDGE in the game of blackjack can run from .20% (single deck) to .63% in an eight deck game ... providing you know Basic Strategy apply it ..... and if you avoid sitting at any table that only pays 6-5 0r even money when you get a blackjack.

And now the casinos along the Strip are even taking advantage of dumb blackjack players by employing continuous shuffle machines.

The House Edge of .20% to .63% is a damn low House Edge in any casino .... and in 'most' cases during an hour or two of play, you can count your chips and notice that you're ahead .... and cash in/out.

As another GetBigger has already stated ... The house always has the advantage!

And that's true ... but you can cash in and leave that table at any time ... and the casino cannot!

As some country singer once said ... 'You gotta know when to fold 'em!"

And that's great advice for anyone who enjoys gambling in a casino!

Set you loss limits and .... Quit while you're ahead!

One last comment .... It's a well known fact that the majority of the so-called craps and blackjack authors who write books which explain how to win casino games  ....  have to write those books to cover their losses!

Last note: the House Edge for slot machines usually runs from 5% to 15%.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 16, 2020, 11:40:57 AM
Pearson played every game under the sun.  He used to drive around Vegas in a van and challenge anyone to bet any game with him.  If you had 2 cockroaches and wanted to bet who would win in a race he would take the bet.  He made huge amounts of money betting sports and that's how I met him.

Lots of skilled gamblers know how to win, that's the easy part. Sticking to a staking plan and not gambling out of boredom or because of "emotions" is the hard part.

As I posted previously, baccarat has a casino edge of 1.5% which is almost nothing.  The casino has to deal the cards.  The gambler can sit out, bet, change tables, not play at all, or bet using a progressive betting scheme.  If he can't win with those advantages he is not cut out for gambling.
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Just lol. None of that makes any difference. It's purely gamblers fallacy. Each time you go to place a bet regardless of the situations you describe, the house still has an edge, even when you introduce card counting in the equation. You basically need an eidetic memory to have a chance.

Out of curiosity, if you're on the baccarat table what's your go to bet?
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 16, 2020, 11:51:37 AM


As another GetBigger has already stated ... The house always has the advantage!

And that's true ... but you can cash in and leave that table at any time ... and the casino cannot!



If you're hitting the casino regularly then this makes no difference. Again more gamblers fallacy. There is no difference between leaving the table and coming back next week vs staying on the table.
Title: Re: Gambling - Lottery Tickets
Post by: 6 Reps on February 16, 2020, 12:06:31 PM
Have been buying Powerball, Mega Millions, and California Super Lotto tickets regularly for years.  My playing began when a guy in the office I worked at once won the California Super Lotto.  I spend about $40-$50 a week, which sounds like a lot, but I can afford it.  The most I've ever won was a few hundred dollars.

Over the years I seen people do crazy purchases.  Numerous times I would be in line to buy tickets and the person in front of me would buy $50-$100 worth.  The worst was one time there was one of those gigantic Mega Millions jackpots, about half a billion dollars, and the person in front of me bought $300 worth of tickets.  He, nor any of the other $50-$100 players, did not win.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 16, 2020, 12:17:05 PM
EL, I have a slight idea of what a mentioned above ... but in my smarter days I was so damn deep into the study of the math involved within the game of CRAPS that it actually led me into the study of basic law of problibility, quantum mechanics, string theory, and all that other incomprehensible shit.

It all started when some older, old time, craps enthusatist  told me that  the math behind the game was originally 'computed' by the slaves who originally came to the south and worked in the cotton fields.

And if you know the math behind the rolling of a pair of dice, you would wonder how the hell those uneducated slaves figured out the theory of probability without some sort of advanced ed-u-ma-ca-tion.

If 2 to 1, 3 to 2, 6 t0 5, or 9 to 5, 7 to 5, and 7 to 6 makes any sense to you , you'd understand what I'm talking about.

But it took me through 4 years of higher learning to understand what those slaves figured out while pick'n cotton.

Not sure if I responded correctly, but I gave it a try anyway!


They probably had slaves throw dice several hundred if not thousands of times, maybe even with several different types of dice and had them record and tally it all to test those odds.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 16, 2020, 12:55:28 PM
If you're hitting the casino regularly then this makes no difference. Again more gamblers fallacy. There is no difference between leaving the table and coming back next week vs staying on the table.
That's why you keep records.  This eliminates the gambler's fallacy.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 16, 2020, 12:59:14 PM
Once again ... I gotta say that HUMBLE knows what he's talking about.

And let me add that the HOUSE EDGE in the game of blackjack can run from .20% (single deck) to .63% in an eight deck game ... providing you know Basic Strategy apply it ..... and if you avoid sitting at any table that only pays 6-5 0r even money when you get a blackjack.

And now the casinos along the Strip are even taking advantage of dumb blackjack players by employing continuous shuffle machines.

The House Edge of .20% to .63% is a damn low House Edge in any casino .... and in 'most' cases during an hour or two of play, you can count your chips and notice that you're ahead .... and cash in/out.

As another GetBigger has already stated ... The house always has the advantage!

And that's true ... but you can cash in and leave that table at any time ... and the casino cannot!

As some country singer once said ... 'You gotta know when to fold 'em!"

And that's great advice for anyone who enjoys gambling in a casino!

Set you loss limits and .... Quit while you're ahead!

One last comment .... It's a well known fact that the majority of the so-called craps and blackjack authors who write books which explain how to win casino games  ....  have to write those books to cover their losses!

Last note: the House Edge for slot machines usually runs from 5% to 15%.

It's obvious how some on here think that since they can't do it then it can't be done.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 16, 2020, 01:03:08 PM
That's why you keep records.  This eliminates the gambler's fallacy.

Post your records.

Or at least answer the previous question regarding your preferred baccarat bet.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 16, 2020, 01:11:17 PM
Post your records.

Or at least answer the previous question regarding your preferred baccarat bet.
Yeah, I'm going to scan my records from a paper tablet for you to see.  I don't care if you believe me or not.  Enjoy not gambling.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 16, 2020, 01:17:19 PM
Yeah, I'm going to scan my records from a paper tablet for you to see.  I don't care if you believe me or not.  Enjoy not gambling.

Take a picture of a few pages of your records and post it. That's not too difficult.

Why are you avoiding the baccarat question though?
Title: Re: Gambling - Lottery Tickets
Post by: Primemuscle on February 16, 2020, 01:21:40 PM
Have been buying Powerball, Mega Millions, and California Super Lotto tickets regularly for years.  My playing began when a guy in the office I worked at once won the California Super Lotto.  I spend about $40-$50 a week, which sounds like a lot, but I can afford it.  The most I've ever won was a few hundred dollars.

Over the years I seen people do crazy purchases.  Numerous times I would be in line to buy tickets and the person in front of me would buy $50-$100 worth.  The worst was one time there was one of those gigantic Mega Millions jackpots, about half a billion dollars, and the person in front of me bought $300 worth of tickets.  He, nor any of the other $50-$100 players, did not win.

I could afford to waste $40-$50 a week on lotto tickets too. But I don't.  I spend the minimum on each of two games, Megabucks and Powerball. Guess what, it is still a gamble. I might win a bundle or I most likely will lose my meager wager. The odds of winning the Powerball jackpot are 1 in 292,201,338. The odds of wining Megabucks are one in 12,271,512. I guess I pay to dream.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 16, 2020, 01:25:06 PM
Take a picture of a few pages of your records and post it. That's not too difficult.

Why are you avoiding the baccarat question though?
No I don't need to post anything for you and you wouldn't believe it if I did.  What baccarat question are you talking about?  My go to bet?  What does that even mean?  I assume you are talking about what % wins for banker and player.  Banker has a slight edge.  Has little to do with the systems I use.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: el numero uno on February 16, 2020, 01:31:14 PM
That's why you keep records.  This eliminates the gambler's fallacy.

Huh? Recording the events doesn't eliminate gambler's fallacy.

Gambler's fallacy is when you think independent events are being affected by the frecuency of previous events.

Like, you flip a coin several times and heads show up five times in a row, and then you conclude that since the Probability of heads/tails is 50/50, the next flip is more likely to be tails, to make up for the high frequency of heads.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 16, 2020, 01:37:06 PM
Huh? Recording the events doesn't eliminate gambler's fallacy.

Gambler's fallacy is when you think independent events are being affected by the frecuency of previous events.

Like, you flip a coin several times and heads show up five times in a row, and then you conclude that since the Probability of heads/tails is 50/50, the next flip is more likely to be tails, to make up for the high frequency of heads.

You are right, I was talking about people who only remember the wins and not the losses.  Very common with sports bettors.
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: Flexacon on February 16, 2020, 01:59:01 PM
No I don't need to post anything for you and you wouldn't believe it if I did.  What baccarat question are you talking about?  My go to bet?  What does that even mean?  I assume you are talking about what % wins for banker and player.  Banker has a slight edge.  Has little to do with the systems I use.

You must be invested in some casinos stock or something. That's the only explanation that would make sense.
Title: Re: Gambling - Lottery Tickets
Post by: SF1900 on February 16, 2020, 02:44:19 PM
The average every day gambler is likely always in a deficit.

Obviously, this does not apply to professional gamblers.
Title: Re: Gambling - Lottery Tickets
Post by: joswift on February 16, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
justplanejane staying out of this thread so he doesn't give the game away, poker face..
Title: Re: Gambling.
Post by: SF1900 on February 16, 2020, 02:49:11 PM
You are right, I was talking about people who only remember the wins and not the losses.  Very common with sports bettors.

Cherry picking fallacy.
Title: Re: Gambling - Lottery Tickets
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 14, 2020, 09:49:54 PM
I won a complete Air Canada luggage set on the local Hospital Lottery here in Canada, other than that just a 2 day trip...
Title: Re: Gambling - Lottery Tickets
Post by: Thespritz0 on March 14, 2020, 10:21:24 PM
However I DO know of someone who won the Canadian 6/49 "Extra" prize of $500,000 and bought a house in Nanaimo, B.C. Canada
Title: Re: Gambling - Lottery Tickets
Post by: Notomorrow on March 15, 2020, 12:49:46 AM
You can always find a low level kid employee working the floor, make a deal with him that he will watch the slots and see which ones have been played the longest without hitting anything big. Agree to give him a cut of the winnings if he watches and finds one that is about to burst and let's you know. But this would be illegal and I do not advocate this.
Title: Re: Gambling - Lottery Tickets
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 15, 2020, 03:33:03 AM
Now that there are no sports to bet on because of the mass hysteria of Coronavirus I have been playing online baccarat all weekend.