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Title: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 09, 2019, 01:53:07 PM
This should prove interesting.
Looking to buy a Range Rover Sport / Lexus 450RXh / BMW X5
Mitsibushi PHEV or such like.

Look forward to your opinions on any of those or other similar vehicles.
Diesel or hybrid for Me.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Dave D on April 09, 2019, 02:16:55 PM
Just make sure they are straight and knot free.

The wood can warp and you'll be disappointed
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: IRON CROSS on April 09, 2019, 02:38:50 PM
Suzuki Jimny 2019

 :)
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: ratherbebig on April 09, 2019, 02:43:00 PM
4x4 isnt as common as 5x5

but i see no reason why 4x4 wont work
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Hypertrophy on April 09, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
This should prove interesting.
Looking to buy a Range Rover Sport / Lexus 450RXh / BMW X5
Mitsibushi PHEV or such like.

Look forward to your opinions on any of those or other similar vehicles.
Diesel or hybrid for Me.

Unless you are going true off road, and you would need the ability to lock out axles, All Wheel Drive is far far better. Some systems are so good they can control instantaneous power separately at all 4 wheels.

I had a Toyota Highlander Hybrid a while ago, btw. 27-30 mpg city, same highway. Quiet as heck too. It handled the snow in Upstate NY like it wasn't there.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 09, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
I would rather have the bubonic plague than a Rover.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: MP on April 09, 2019, 03:12:06 PM
I'd put those makes you listed in the SUV category, not 4 x 4.

Out of those, I'd go Lexus. Best quality and service for the cost.

If you're talking a real 4 x 4 truck. Chevy or Ford. Take your pick.

Also, what do you plan on doing with it? Hauling kids, groceries, furniture, a boat? Or just people?

Do you like where there is snow?
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: XFACTOR on April 09, 2019, 03:22:46 PM
This should prove interesting.
Looking to buy a Range Rover Sport / Lexus 450RXh / BMW X5
Mitsibushi PHEV or such like.

Look forward to your opinions on any of those or other similar vehicles.
Diesel or hybrid for Me.

Range Rover Sport or Mitsubishi?? How are the two of those even options by one buyer? 
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 09, 2019, 03:34:40 PM
Range Rover Sport or Mitsubishi?? How are the two of those even options by one buyer? 

The mrs has said what she might like - I have to take her thoughts & £ into consideration
And as we’re not buying new the age & mileage of vehicles is a Factor also.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: TonyAlva on April 09, 2019, 03:35:03 PM
Lexus.....all the way Lexus
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 09, 2019, 03:40:17 PM
I'd put those makes you listed in the SUV category, not 4 x 4.

Out of those, I'd go Lexus. Best quality and service for the cost.

If you're talking a real 4 x 4 truck. Chevy or Ford. Take your pick.

Also, what do you plan on doing with it? Hauling kids, groceries, furniture, a boat? Or just people?

Do you like where there is snow?

Just us & a big Dog - My lads or family occasionally.
Trips through Europe to southern Spain.
We live in the country and it’s a bit hilly in & out of our village
Not that we get a lot of snow (thankfully- I hate the stuff) only when we do
It’s very difficult to get in & out without a AWD Vehicle.
That said The Audi TTrs was Fucking worse than useless in the snow 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Tbomzisback! on April 09, 2019, 03:55:17 PM
In & Out is a little overrated but the 4x4 is one of their best options.


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Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: IRON CROSS on April 09, 2019, 05:19:25 PM
Just us & a big Dog - My lads or family occasionally.
Trips through Europe to southern Spain.
We live in the country and it’s a bit hilly in & out of our village
Not that we get a lot of snow (thankfully- I hate the stuff) only when we do
It’s very difficult to get in & out without a AWD Vehicle.
That said The Audi TTrs was Fucking worse than useless in the snow 😂😂😂


So no Global Warming  :P
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: AbrahamG on April 09, 2019, 06:28:50 PM
AWD is all you really need.
HTH.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: myt1 on April 09, 2019, 07:28:39 PM
This should prove interesting.
Looking to buy a Range Rover Sport / Lexus 450RXh / BMW X5
Mitsibushi PHEV or such like.

Look forward to your opinions on any of those or other similar vehicles.
Diesel or hybrid for Me.

Why those brands?  Just for the status of the name?  Lexus is owned by Toyota.  For my money I would get a Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road for a truck, or the 4 Runner for an SUV
https://www.toyota.com/trdpro/?srchid=sem:Model_Tacoma_TRD:GOOGLE:TRD_Tacoma_General::&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsZ2qyrvE4QIVgsDACh3VUAKWEAAYAiAAEgJrefD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

My favorite is the Inferno Orange one, but it looks like they aren't offering it for the 2019 models >:( 
https://www.getauto.com/2018/toyota/tacoma/truck/iowa/cedar-falls/2018-toyota-tacoma-details_222011332

Black looks dope too though, but it's impossible to keep clean.


P.S. - If you're shopping on name/prestige, how the hell did Mitsubishi make your list Illuminati? :-\
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 09, 2019, 10:46:19 PM
Why those brands?  Just for the status of the name?  Lexus is owned by Toyota.  For my money I would get a Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road for a truck, or the 4 Runner for an SUV
https://www.toyota.com/trdpro/?srchid=sem:Model_Tacoma_TRD:GOOGLE:TRD_Tacoma_General::&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsZ2qyrvE4QIVgsDACh3VUAKWEAAYAiAAEgJrefD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

My favorite is the Inferno Orange one, but it looks like they aren't offering it for the 2019 models >:( 
https://www.getauto.com/2018/toyota/tacoma/truck/iowa/cedar-falls/2018-toyota-tacoma-details_222011332

Black looks dope too though, but it's impossible to keep clean.


P.S. - If you're shopping on name/prestige, how the hell did Mitsubishi make your list Illuminati? :-\


What’s the issue with Mitsibushi - we are looking for 4 wheel drive vehicle - there are a couple of
Others makes that are on our to look at list. Make / prestige May play a part - So will other factors.
We’ve got open minds & want the right vehicle that fits we want best.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: tommywishbone on April 09, 2019, 11:49:07 PM
Thoughts on 4 x 4?

Well 4 x 4 = 16.

16 is a good solid number. I liked that movie "Sixteen Candles" with Molly Whatshername.

I stole an ice cream truck when I was 16. I didn't get arrested but I was grounded for six months.

Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 10, 2019, 01:34:59 AM
Thoughts on 4 x 4?

Well 4 x 4 = 16.

16 is a good solid number. I liked that movie "Sixteen Candles" with Molly Whatshername.

I stole an ice cream truck when I was 16. I didn't get arrested but I was grounded for six months.



It is 16 - Though now & again its good to push for the extra rep or 2.

You don’t even want to know what I was up to at 16.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: falco on April 10, 2019, 01:55:24 AM
Just us & a big Dog - My lads or family occasionally.
Trips through Europe to southern Spain.
We live in the country and it’s a bit hilly in & out of our village
Not that we get a lot of snow (thankfully- I hate the stuff) only when we do
It’s very difficult to get in & out without a AWD Vehicle.
That said The Audi TTrs was Fucking worse than useless in the snow 😂😂😂

There you go,

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Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: seCrawler on April 10, 2019, 02:08:43 AM
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Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: IroNat on April 10, 2019, 03:57:01 AM
I'm too poor and too smart to buy one of those over-priced pieces of shit.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Skylge on April 10, 2019, 11:09:21 AM
Why those brands?  Just for the status of the name?  Lexus is owned by Toyota.  For my money I would get a Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road for a truck, or the 4 Runner for an SUV
https://www.toyota.com/trdpro/?srchid=sem:Model_Tacoma_TRD:GOOGLE:TRD_Tacoma_General::&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsZ2qyrvE4QIVgsDACh3VUAKWEAAYAiAAEgJrefD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

My favorite is the Inferno Orange one, but it looks like they aren't offering it for the 2019 models >:( 
https://www.getauto.com/2018/toyota/tacoma/truck/iowa/cedar-falls/2018-toyota-tacoma-details_222011332

Black looks dope too though, but it's impossible to keep clean.


P.S. - If you're shopping on name/prestige, how the hell did Mitsubishi make your list Illuminati? :-\


Tacoma isn't sold in Europe....

I would go for a first owner 1st generation Volvo XC90 AWD
Plenty on offer, practical, comfortable, very roomy, dealers and parts everywhere, and relatively affordable

(https://car-anwb.akamaized.net/aas-afbeeldingen/402251a.jpg?imwidth=401&imheight=400)
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: RancherRanger on April 10, 2019, 11:20:44 AM
Here I am expecting to see the likes of Jeep, etc, and you mention and bunch of awd's from some of the most unreliable manufacturers. If you want new, and a true 4x4, get a 4Runner and lift it.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: myt1 on April 10, 2019, 11:50:14 AM
What’s the issue with Mitsibushi - we are looking for 4 wheel drive vehicle - there are a couple of
Others makes that are on our to look at list. Make / prestige May play a part - So will other factors.
We’ve got open minds & want the right vehicle that fits we want best.


I don't know that anything is "wrong" with Mitsubishi per se, it's just that all the other brands that you listed are considered somewhat high end in the states.....or high end middle class/low rich let's call it.

Mitsubishi on the other hand is a college chick's car brand here, of something a middle class parent would give their 16 yr old as a first car.  When you mention Mitsubishi here, most people think of the Eclipse coupe, which I'm not sure if they even make anymore.

https://www.carfax.com/Used-Mitsubishi-Eclipse_w524
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: myt1 on April 10, 2019, 11:53:43 AM
Tacoma isn't sold in Europe....

I would go for a first owner 1st generation Volvo XC90 AWD
Plenty on offer, practical, comfortable, very roomy, dealers and parts everywhere, and relatively affordable

(https://car-anwb.akamaized.net/aas-afbeeldingen/402251a.jpg?imwidth=401&imheight=400)


Bummer.  Solid truck, brand, and service here in the states.

Is the 4 Runner or FJ? Toyota at all for that matter?  Here's some older FJ's https://www.carfax.com/Used-Toyota-FJ-Cruiser_w648
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Skylge on April 10, 2019, 12:33:25 PM
Bummer.  Solid truck, brand, and service here in the states.

Is the 4 Runner or FJ? Toyota at all for that matter?  Here's some older FJ's https://www.carfax.com/Used-Toyota-FJ-Cruiser_w648


FJ Cruiser was sold over here, the version with automatic transmission had no permanent 4WD if I recall correctly
Also no diesel, so quite impressive fuel costs with the V6 gas engine

Landcruiser diesels are relatively common in UK / Gibraltar where the topic starter apparently lives

(https://www.autoblog.nl/gallery/0_Reviews/Toyota/Land_Cruiser/Toyota-Land-Cruiser-2782.jpg)

(https://www.autoblog.nl/gallery/0_Reviews/Toyota/Land_Cruiser/Toyota-Land-Cruiser-3432.jpg)

Most are too expensive 2nd hand imo, even with high mileage
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 10, 2019, 01:32:46 PM
Tacoma isn't sold in Europe....

I would go for a first owner 1st generation Volvo XC90 AWD
Plenty on offer, practical, comfortable, very roomy, dealers and parts everywhere, and relatively affordable

(https://car-anwb.akamaized.net/aas-afbeeldingen/402251a.jpg?imwidth=401&imheight=400)


Ha - we were looking at the xc60 & 90 today !!
I hadn’t really thought of them - got to say they are on our consideration list now.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 10, 2019, 01:37:02 PM
FJ Cruiser was sold over here, the version with automatic transmission had no permanent 4WD if I recall correctly
Also no diesel, so quite impressive fuel costs with the V6 gas engine

Landcruiser diesels are relatively common in UK / Gibraltar where the topic starter apparently lives

(https://www.autoblog.nl/gallery/0_Reviews/Toyota/Land_Cruiser/Toyota-Land-Cruiser-2782.jpg)

(https://www.autoblog.nl/gallery/0_Reviews/Toyota/Land_Cruiser/Toyota-Land-Cruiser-3432.jpg)

Most are too expensive 2nd hand imo, even with high mileage

I do Live in UK / Gibraltar- Southern Spain.
Gibraltar isn’t the best place for big cars as there’s very little parking space & road are extremely
Narrow in places - wide enough for just 1 vehicle.
Won’t be using it around there very often. 😁
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: myt1 on April 10, 2019, 07:07:45 PM
FJ Cruiser was sold over here, the version with automatic transmission had no permanent 4WD if I recall correctly
Also no diesel, so quite impressive fuel costs with the V6 gas engine

Landcruiser diesels are relatively common in UK / Gibraltar where the topic starter apparently lives

(https://www.autoblog.nl/gallery/0_Reviews/Toyota/Land_Cruiser/Toyota-Land-Cruiser-2782.jpg)

(https://www.autoblog.nl/gallery/0_Reviews/Toyota/Land_Cruiser/Toyota-Land-Cruiser-3432.jpg)

Most are too expensive 2nd hand imo, even with high mileage

It's crazy to me how different the styles seem to be in Europe.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: IRON CROSS on April 11, 2019, 02:05:13 PM


I would go for a first owner 1st generation Volvo XC90 AWD
Plenty on offer, practical, comfortable, very roomy, dealers and parts everywhere, and relatively affordable





& 100% build in China  :D
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Skylge on April 12, 2019, 03:36:39 AM

& 100% build in China  :D

First en second generation XC90 are built in Sweden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_XC90


So are the V90 and V90 Cross Country

V60, and XC60 are built in Volvo's factory in Gent, Belgium

From what I read in German car magazine AutoBild, the first gen XC90 was overbuilt by Volvo. They had no experience with an SUV, so they decided to take no risks and use quality components that last.
Inline 5 cilinder single turbo diesel might be the best choice in Europe, you can find lost of info on Volvo forums
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Bevo on April 12, 2019, 05:05:20 AM
Getbiggers don’t drive Swedish cars but if they do they own Koenigseggs
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: _bruce_ on April 12, 2019, 05:49:09 AM
Getbiggers don’t drive Swedish cars but if they do they own Koenigseggs

Most likely - all roads gebiggers use are simple straights so they can thrust their high status toys with maximum gusto.

Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 12, 2019, 09:54:05 AM
OP said 4x4 so why is this thread full of lame soccer mom cars?
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Skylge on April 14, 2019, 12:42:09 AM
I do Live in UK / Gibraltar- Southern Spain.
Gibraltar isn’t the best place for big cars as there’s very little parking space & road are extremely
Narrow in places - wide enough for just 1 vehicle.
Won’t be using it around there very often. 😁

We visited Gibraltar in 2011, spend several hours there, very interesting and impressive place!
Then drove on to Tarifa, and finally to Vejer de la Frontera  (And then back to Marbella)

The Rock is cramped, but luckily Andalucia is one of the most fantastic regions of Europe!

I did notice many car rental companies do not allow you to take the car into Gibraltar (We parked close to the border). At the time some stolen cars apparently ended up in ships sailing from The Rock?

Small streets indeed bus the small taxi bus we took had no problems with them:


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Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Skylge on April 14, 2019, 12:44:53 AM
OP said 4x4 so why is this thread full of lame soccer mom cars?

Most normal people drive on public roads. You never do, naturally   ;D

In many parts of Europa soccer mom SUVs are tricky enough to park or drive through narrow old town streets....or enter / exit parking garages...(not to mention high taxes and high fuel prices)
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: denarii on April 14, 2019, 12:48:14 AM
EQC? or iPace?
If you need to tow then an ICE engine
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 15, 2019, 03:48:01 PM
Most normal people drive on public roads. You never do, naturally   ;D

In many parts of Europa soccer mom SUVs are tricky enough to park or drive through narrow old town streets....or enter / exit parking garages...(not to mention high taxes and high fuel prices)


Just buy a Fiat then. Why obsess over what you drive if you can't afford it and don't have room to drive it? OP is doomed to drive a lame, small. 1.3L shitbox. /thread
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 15, 2019, 03:56:26 PM

Just buy a Fiat then. Why obsess over what you drive if you can't afford it and don't have room to drive it? OP is doomed to drive a lame, small. 1.3L shitbox. /thread

Not very bright are you  ::)
You drive whatever you like boy
And I’ll drive what ever I choose.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 17, 2019, 03:05:05 PM
Not very bright are you  ::)
You drive whatever you like boy
And I’ll drive what ever I choose.


Ahhh I see an insult...so who's brighter then - the asker who doesn't know what to drive asking a forum for validation or the answerer who is totally secure in what they drive?
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: seCrawler on April 17, 2019, 08:07:15 PM
Getbiggers don’t drive Swedish cars but if they do they own Koenigseggs

They just spread Surstromming on their crackers instead of sardines. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 18, 2019, 04:31:52 AM

Ahhh I see an insult...so who's brighter then - the asker who doesn't know what to drive asking a forum for validation or the answerer who is totally secure in what they drive?

Not very bright are you  Roll Eyes
You drive whatever you like boy
And I’ll drive what ever I choose.

Still Not very bright are you - this is GetBig
and my 1st post said this would be interesting get views
 ::)
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 18, 2019, 04:06:03 PM
Not very bright are you  Roll Eyes
You drive whatever you like boy
And I’ll drive what ever I choose.

Still Not very bright are you - this is GetBig
and my 1st post said this would be interesting get views
 ::)


? Try again when sober.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: IRON CROSS on April 18, 2019, 06:05:21 PM
Getbiggers don’t drive Swedish cars but if they do they own Koenigseggs


Seher Guth (!), GetBiggers only drive Mad Max type of cars like Interceptor !.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: IRON CROSS on April 18, 2019, 06:12:45 PM
Most normal people drive on public roads. You never do, naturally   ;D

In many parts of Europa soccer mom SUVs are tricky enough to park or drive through narrow old town streets....or enter / exit parking garages...(not to mention high taxes and high fuel prices)

Nope, country roads ..........visit real countries like Australia,US,...................

No 'soccer mums' in Europe !.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: IRON CROSS on April 18, 2019, 06:18:33 PM
Not very bright are you  ::)
You drive whatever you like boy
And I’ll drive what ever I choose.


U need to see whats happen when Aussie Road Train meets Fiat  ;D, o mama mia !.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 19, 2019, 05:29:26 PM

U need to see whats happen when Aussie Road Train meets Fiat  ;D, o mama mia !.

SPLAT !!!
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 19, 2019, 05:30:37 PM
You Still Here Boy.  ::)


? Try again when sober.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: IRON CROSS on April 19, 2019, 06:21:24 PM
SPLAT !!!

wind tunnel effects , fiat can fly ............. ;D

imagine road train truck ,200m long,driving 100km & tiny italian ............... :P
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: AbrahamG on April 19, 2019, 06:43:42 PM
All wheel drive gets me through Michigan winters just fine.  No reason for 4X4 to even be a thing.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: oldgolds on April 23, 2019, 07:45:12 AM
Older Toyota truck. 4 cylinder, good on gas, will go anywhere a jeep will and also makes a great daily driver. 4 wheel on weekends, commute comfortably to work, move a fridge, does it all...
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: BayGBM on April 24, 2019, 02:38:22 PM
Older Toyota truck. 4 cylinder, good on gas, will go anywhere a jeep will and also makes a great daily driver. 4 wheel on weekends, commute comfortably to work, move a fridge, does it all...

4 cylinder engine is too small. :(
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Tapeworm on April 24, 2019, 06:58:44 PM
Friend of mine has been fucked around ruthlessly by Mitsubishi.  Brand new vehicle.  Apparently they had a bad run of block castings and won't stand by their crap.

Also knew a guy years ago who bought a new Mitsubishi van which leaked oil from day 1 and every day thereafter.  They basically told him stiff shit buddy.

I'd look at Toyota or Isuzu unless you want some badge cache.  I would have included Subaru but another friend has had major trouble with his exhaust/emissions system which has cost him 4 repairs so far with no indication there won't be more to come.  They simply don't know what they're doing.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 24, 2019, 07:14:26 PM
This should prove interesting.
Looking to buy a Range Rover Sport / Lexus 450RXh / BMW X5
Mitsibushi PHEV or such like.

Look forward to your opinions on any of those or other similar vehicles.
Diesel or hybrid for Me.

Are you looking to buy or rent?  All of the above will work great for 3 years on a lease. The question is if you buy and want to keep the vehicle which will last over the long run without piling up the bills. I had a Toyota that ran perfect for 17 years. (side note. I had a new company car every three years for work) Outside of normal maintenance like brakes, oil changes and the the only repair I had was a water pump.  I sold the car to a college kid who drove it for another 5 years. I would buy the Lexus if you're not off roading with the vehicle. I see nothing but bills piling up with repairs and expensive maintenance with the Range Rover and BMW.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 24, 2019, 11:51:46 PM
Are you looking to buy or rent?  All of the above will work great for 3 years on a lease. The question is if you buy and want to keep the vehicle which will last over the long run without piling up the bills. I had a Toyota that ran perfect for 17 years. (side note. I had a new company car every three years for work) Outside of normal maintenance like brakes, oil changes and the like the only repair I had was a water pump.  I sold the car to a college kid who drove it for another 5 years. I would buy the Lexus if you're not off roading with the vehicle. I see nothing but bills piling up with repairs and expensive maintenance with the Range Rover and BMW.

Looking buy a used vehicle around 4-6yrs old.
As much as I like the Range Rover sport it’s off the list - too expensive for what we need
Repairs / running costs / insurance.
We wil be keeping the vehicle for minimum 5/6yrs.
Like the Lexus/ she’s not keen & it’s her who’ll be using it most.
She’s now looking at a smaller mid size suv.!!   ??? Onwards we go.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 25, 2019, 10:19:07 AM
Looking buy a used vehicle around 4-6yrs old.
As much as I like the Range Rover sport it’s off the list - too expensive for what we need
Repairs / running costs / insurance.
We wil be keeping the vehicle for minimum 5/6yrs.
Like the Lexus/ she’s not keen & it’s her who’ll be using it most.
She’s now looking at a smaller mid size suv.!!   ??? Onwards we go.

Look at the 2019 Honda CR-V. High tech and looks great.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 25, 2019, 11:27:58 AM
Look at the 2019 Honda CR-V. High tech and looks great.

Yes very nice only it’s a new vehicle & as I’m the only broke Getbigger
Out of my Price range 😢
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: IRON CROSS on April 25, 2019, 05:48:48 PM
Looking buy a used vehicle around 4-6yrs old.
As much as I like the Range Rover sport it’s off the list - too expensive for what we need
Repairs / running costs / insurance.
We wil be keeping the vehicle for minimum 5/6yrs.
Like the Lexus/ she’s not keen & it’s her who’ll be using it most.
She’s now looking at a smaller mid size suv.!!   ??? Onwards we go.

I have 8 yo Wrangler, never stops !.American legend.

Land Rover (short 1) Yes, Range Rover No !.

Buy her Suzuki Jimny 2019  ;)
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: Griffith on April 26, 2019, 05:12:59 AM
Friend of mine has been fucked around ruthlessly by Mitsubishi.  Brand new vehicle.  Apparently they had a bad run of block castings and won't stand by their crap.

Also knew a guy years ago who bought a new Mitsubishi van which leaked oil from day 1 and every day thereafter.  They basically told him stiff shit buddy.

I'd look at Toyota or Isuzu unless you want some badge cache.  I would have included Subaru but another friend has had major trouble with his exhaust/emissions system which has cost him 4 repairs so far with no indication there won't be more to come.  They simply don't know what they're doing.

Agreed.

They're reliable as well.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: illuminati on April 27, 2019, 02:19:48 AM
Friend of mine has been fucked around ruthlessly by Mitsubishi.  Brand new vehicle.  Apparently they had a bad run of block castings and won't stand by their crap.

Also knew a guy years ago who bought a new Mitsubishi van which leaked oil from day 1 and every day thereafter.  They basically told him stiff shit buddy.

I'd look at Toyota or Isuzu unless you want some badge cache.  I would have included Subaru but another friend has had major trouble with his exhaust/emissions system which has cost him 4 repairs so far with no indication there won't be more to come.  They simply don't know what they're doing.

She currently has a Mitsibushi outlander diesel and other than the dual mass flywheel
Rumble ( very common issue with dual mass flywheels) it’s been great -
A rugged good sized vehicle. All makes Have duff parts sometimes - Agreed that the
Manufacturers should step up and sort these problems - I phoned Land Rover Customer
Service about a few potential issues with the 3.0v6 diesels the man I spoke to wouldn’t
Answer or acknowledged anything  ::) in fact made out like a 6/7yr old vehicle was
Almost a scrap vehicle. !!
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: The Scott on April 27, 2019, 05:48:05 AM
Dodge Ram Ecodiesel 4X4 is my choice.  I just bought one and like it very much.  I researched this purchase for approximately 7 months and chose the Ram over Ford/Chevy/GMC (not at all interested in Toyota or Nissan).  I tend to keep vehicles for close to a decade or more so the diesel really appealed to me.

Like most 4X4s today, there is an "auto-4X4" that can be selected so that gives me that option should I think available traction might be sketchy.  For example, in Arizona there is what we call the "Monsoon Season" where it literally rains sideways.  I've been on my motorcycles in that and had to pull over because not only could I not see further than 30 or so feet in front of me, but the downpour is so intense it can literally knock/pull  the  bike right out from under me if you get caught in an unexpected "wash".

I've had my truck a couple of months now and am averaging 22 mpg combined but hope to take it on a short trip next month and see if I can get 25 to 30 mpg on the freeway doing the legal limit which depending up states is usually 70 to 75 mph.  Mine is the Big Horn edition and is a crew cab.  I really like it so far and know I made the right choice for me as I had zero "buyer's remorse".  Usually there is at least  a hint of that but not this time.   ;D
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: basil on April 27, 2019, 06:39:28 AM
Have a ‘15 Nissan Titan Pro 4X and a ‘14 2 door Jeep Wrangler Sahara.  Both are great vehicles, but for road driving I prefer the Titan.  The Jeep is fun in the summer and off roads, but not very comfortable on highways.  They don’t handle the best and really get thrown around in the wind. The wife has a Ford Edge, AWD.  It’s a solid all around vehicle.  Throw a set of studded tires on for winter driving and you’re gold.
Title: Re: Thoughts on 4x4’s
Post by: The Scott on April 27, 2019, 06:44:16 AM
Have a ‘15 Nissan Titan Pro 4X and a ‘14 2 door Jeep Wrangler Sahara.  Both are great vehicles, but for road driving I prefer the Titan.  The Jeep is fun in the summer and off roads, but not very comfortable on highways.  They don’t handle the best and really get thrown around in the wind. The wife has a Ford Edge, AWD.  It’s a solid all around vehicle.  Throw a set of studded tires on for winter driving and you’re gold.

I've got a couple of  friends with the big Nissan that like them very much.  My younger brother has a Ram and Jeep Wrangler (they recently went from the 2 door to the 4 door) that both he and his wife think highly of.  The Jeep is a buckboard, especially compared to the Ram.  They tow with the Ram (toy hauler) and go off road with the Jeep.