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Title: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Bast175 on April 16, 2006, 07:34:41 AM
A paraplegic can pose better than this.

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006masters_pre_men51.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006masters_pre_men59.jpg)

Title: Re: Ok now I know Bob won
Post by: RAT MCBAT on April 16, 2006, 07:58:09 AM
why work hard when you know the fix is in? :-\
Title: Re: Ok now I know Bob won
Post by: LuciusFox on April 16, 2006, 08:13:47 AM
why work hard when you know the fix is in? :-\

     ::)
Title: Re: Ok now I know Bob won
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 16, 2006, 08:26:33 AM
Bob getting smoked like a Philly blunt.
Title: Re: Ok now I know Bob won
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 16, 2006, 08:28:30 AM
big mouth bob got the ultimate gift   LOL
Title: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffers
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 16, 2006, 08:35:51 AM
Mr. Jeffers, I present you with the ownership papers for Bob.

Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: slayer on April 16, 2006, 08:47:15 AM
jeffers skin and muscle proportion look like a 30 yr old , where pricks looks like a 50 yr old!
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: slayer on April 16, 2006, 08:50:00 AM
dont hate me cause im old saggy and smooth, it was only a local highschool show with 50 yr old men who dont know when to let it go!
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: Bast175 on April 16, 2006, 08:55:58 AM
Chic's stomach looks like Farrahs, when did he get shot?

(http://www.flexonline.com/contests/xtreme2004/pre/images/orpre016.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: richbmraz03 on April 16, 2006, 08:56:51 AM
Yea what a JOKE ;DBob should not have placed ahead of Rusty.Agree with you SLAYER Rusty look.s so much younger and tighter
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 16, 2006, 09:01:19 AM
More of Rusty playing "top" to Bob's "bottom."
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: sarcasm on April 16, 2006, 09:06:59 AM
are you saying that Bob was handed a win, Thin Lizzy?
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: ManBearPig... on April 16, 2006, 09:07:12 AM
does Bob know there's such a thing as a "lower body"?
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: newdumbell303 on April 16, 2006, 09:16:21 AM
Rusty looks great, so much better than Chic thats for sure. I remember seeing this video "Training Chest with Rusty Jeffers" on bb.com a few months back, when he didnt have the porn start stach, strong guy too thats for sure. His body is definetely that of a 30 year olds.
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: SteelePegasus on April 16, 2006, 09:20:31 AM
Damn, Rusty looks like he would hold his own at the O.


I agree, he owned Chick.  Hid body looks like a good 10-15 years younger than Bob.  Bob's skin is loose and sagging.
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: midwaymonster on April 16, 2006, 09:33:03 AM
What happened at this show just makes the PDI's case that much stronger!! Guys are not going to want to compete in the NPC or IFBB if the put all that time and effort and get screwed in thier placings.
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 16, 2006, 09:39:49 AM
To be fair, in that field, I would've had Bob 2nd or 3rd, but c'mon, Rusty was the "easy" winner. It wasn't even close.
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: HowieW on April 16, 2006, 09:48:14 AM

The sad thing is Rusty didn't make the top 5.


Were the judges blind or just st00pid?

Rusty could have been 3rd on my scorecard. I think both Pavel and Chic looked better overall.
Title: Re: Ok now I know Bob won
Post by: HERACLES on April 16, 2006, 09:49:56 AM
That dude Jeffries had it together that night from what the pics you guys are putting up...but seriously, it snot the FIRST time or THE LAST time the judges messed up, you gus know that right? Especially those of us that have competed.


Title: bob
Post by: benchthis on April 16, 2006, 09:52:24 AM
what do you think about rusty placing???? i know you won and blah blah blah but rusty did look good what are your opinions
Title: Re: bob
Post by: 240 is Back on April 16, 2006, 09:53:18 AM
On another board, Bob Chick's girlfriend said the top 6 didn't make sense.  I posted it here, but it's nowhere to be found now
Title: Re: bob
Post by: benchthis on April 16, 2006, 09:53:58 AM
o and bob you looked like you wanted to cry when the messed up on your music
Title: Re: bob
Post by: Mars on April 16, 2006, 09:55:27 AM
Is it true Rusty was into hardcore gay productions?
Title: Re: bob
Post by: RAT MCBAT on April 16, 2006, 09:55:38 AM
On another board, Bob Chick's girlfriend said the top 6 didn't make sense.  I posted it here, but it's nowhere to be found now
repost it. if it gets deleated again we'll know what happened. if enough people fight the mod power abusers this board will change, for better or for worse.
Title: Re: bob
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 16, 2006, 09:55:55 AM
at least give Bob a bit of a break - it's not his fault Rusty was screwed. Bob did his best and he did well. Hopefully he'll be humble in victory like a true champion would be
Title: Re: bob
Post by: RAT MCBAT on April 16, 2006, 09:58:57 AM
at least give Bob a bit of a break - it's not his fault Rusty was screwed. Bob did his best and he did well. Hopefully he'll be humble in victory like a true champion would be
bob placing is not whats important. none of the pros competeing that night are more important than being able to discuss this topic or any other topic without agenda promoting censorship
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: RAT MCBAT on April 16, 2006, 10:02:38 AM
this board is getting worked like a puppet, and the strings are held by the blue stars
Title: Re: bob
Post by: RAT MCBAT on April 16, 2006, 10:04:18 AM
Even though this thread is legitimate bodybuilding discussion... we're talking about placings in a show for christ's sake... you know damn well it's only a matter of time before some jackass deletes this because we're not being kiss-ass enough.
i agree. we need to fight the censorship. the only method we have to do this is to keep reposting deleated threads.
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: BayGBM on April 16, 2006, 10:09:32 AM
dont hate me cause im old saggy and smooth, it was only a local highschool show with 50 yr old men who dont know when to let it go!

Those pix above are painful to look at; it's not even close.  Rusty by a mile.

If I were Bob, I would never show my face on this board again.  :-[
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 16, 2006, 10:09:54 AM

I had him second, behind Pavol and ahead of Chick.

ditto
Title: Re: Ok now I know Bob won
Post by: Cavalier22 on April 16, 2006, 10:12:55 AM
dude that bald guy looked awesome
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: LuciusFox on April 16, 2006, 10:17:35 AM
Those pix above are painful to look at; it's not even close.  Rusty by a mile.

If I were Bob, I would never show my face on this board again.  :-[


  Bob dwarfs Rusty ::)
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 16, 2006, 10:18:12 AM

I had him second, behind Pavol and ahead of Chick.

Title: Re: Ok now I know Bob won
Post by: LuciusFox on April 16, 2006, 10:19:39 AM
 Bob dwarfs Rusty ::)
Title: Re: bob
Post by: LuciusFox on April 16, 2006, 10:21:13 AM
 Bob dwarfs Rusty ::)
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 16, 2006, 10:22:29 AM
More Rusty vs. Pavol
Title: Re: bob
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 16, 2006, 10:23:33 AM
howards never get shit canned
Title: Re: Bob getting worked like a hand puppet
Post by: LuciusFox on April 16, 2006, 10:40:42 AM
 Rusty has a great back. He could have been as high as second :-\
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: RAT MCBAT on April 16, 2006, 10:45:07 AM
looks like someones merging threads now
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Tomanater on April 16, 2006, 10:58:06 AM
Rusty not in the TOP 5..WTF???Should have been atleast second.. ???
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Undermind on April 16, 2006, 11:03:47 AM
Definitely should've been between Rusty and Bob.  Pavol has no back and no legs.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: War-Horse on April 16, 2006, 11:07:30 AM
Bobs lat spread is an obvious pic of mis-timed carb loading.  He spilled over bad.  His 4 days out pics had striations on quads and elsewhere.     Jeffers has a rock hard muscularity that takes this show.
Im a fan of pavol but father time is getting to him.   The body never had a flow to it.

 Bottom line.   Jeffers should have the title, the rest dont matter.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Lord Humungous on April 16, 2006, 11:11:48 AM
Those are some cool shots of Bob 4 weeks out, anyone have some pics of him at the show.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: delta9mda on April 16, 2006, 11:45:46 AM
why the fuuuck did rusty not win?? wtf?!
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: War-Horse on April 16, 2006, 11:51:18 AM
why the fuuuck did rusty not win?? wtf?!

Politic's.    sponsers and the like.   Bob couldve took it 4 days out.  But, should now Fedex the trophy to jeffers.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Condor on April 16, 2006, 12:28:02 PM
Based on the pics, yeah Jeffers looks way better than everybody.  But it's not like we've never seen a bad decision from the judges before.  I'm really starting to hate the IFBB judging process.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: LuciusFox on April 16, 2006, 12:30:05 PM
 Bob dwarfs Rusty ::) This isn't Men's Fitness Magazine ::)
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: hillbilly on April 16, 2006, 12:33:30 PM
lookin at these pics i keep thinking rusty shud have won but it looked like bob and pavol shud have beat him when i watched the live feed last night.

From wat i saw the top 3 shud have looked like this

1 pavol
2 chick
3 jeffers
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: JDK on April 16, 2006, 12:35:16 PM
they didn´t let rusty stand next to bob, that says it all......
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Brutal_1 on April 16, 2006, 04:43:39 PM

Wow, that was bad :o

I think Chick seems like a stand up character, but this was just too blatant.  I'd really like to hear his comments on these comparison photos... :o

This guy looks better at every angle :-[ :o
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: LuciusFox on April 16, 2006, 05:05:23 PM
Rusty looked like he should have won it.  But is he only 5'7?  That might explain his placing a little.  Bob is 6'0 so would be a lot bigger.

Does Rusty really have a history of gay porn or is that just another unfounded rumour?

 In other words, Bob dwarfs Rusty. It's a story as old as time itself.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 16, 2006, 05:09:09 PM
what can bob possible say.  it wasnt his call?  this show was decided weeks ago
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: candidate2025 on April 16, 2006, 05:10:06 PM
he can say that he acknowledges the fact the judges were off. thats it.  he doesnt even have to say that they were off on first place...just pavol and jeffers
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 16, 2006, 05:30:01 PM
Rusty looked like he should have won it.  But is he only 5'7?  That might explain his placing a little.  Bob is 6'0 so would be a lot bigger.

Does Rusty really have a history of gay porn or is that just another unfounded rumour?

He did solo jag-off films under the moniker "Carl Hardwick" - a quick google will tell you the rest. doesn't take away from the fact that his physique was one of the best on stage last night
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: mrbham on April 16, 2006, 05:57:00 PM
Rusty Jeffer is 5' 9" and weighs about 230-235, Bob is 6'0" and aobut 240-245, Rusty is not dwarfed by bob, they really needed a comparison.  Rusty placed 2nd in the superheavy class at the nationals in 2004, the last year he competed in it.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: LuciusFox on April 16, 2006, 06:04:17 PM
Rusty Jeffer is 5' 9" and weighs about 230-235, Bob is 6'0" and aobut 240-245, Rusty is not dwarfed by bob, they really needed a comparison.  Rusty placed 2nd in the superheavy class at the nationals in 2004, the last year he competed in it.

  Bob made Rusty look like the doll from Child's Play. ::)
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Special Ed on April 16, 2006, 06:40:59 PM
Wow! The things I miss when I enjoy a beautiful day outside!! I just looked at the pics on bodybuildingdotcom and here are my worthless observations:

1. Chick - looked a little softer than standard Chick-soft. Clearly has the widest shoulders which creates the best taper and he has big quads, so he had the best frame out there. His front double-biceps is far superior to the other guys and he obviously practiced his poses, which many of the others did not. Based on the photos, I would have had him second. But I thought he was much better than Pavol. Congrats Bob on your first win.

2. Johnny Stewart - the thickest back in the show, but man, what a horrible looking physique. He's got plenty of muscle, but damn its ugly. This is the highway robbery, not Chick's.

3. Pavol Jablonicky - Pavol looks great standing still - good shoulders and arms and a cool-looking physique, but he can't pose for shit. His front and rear double biceps look terrible. If you can't properly display what you got, that's no one else's fault but your own. No complaints about 3rd here.

4. Claude Groulx - This was one grotesque looking body on stage. He's always had great shoulders, but he used to have other bodyparts. Now he's nothing but delts. Pathetic arms, horrible symmetry, and the GH-insulin bloated gut that I thought was being downgraded. Another gift.

5. Stan McCrary - Stan showed up in good condition and hey, he knows he's no Lee Haney. He doesn't hit his poses properly and his legs suck, and he doesn't have a nice shape, but hey, it's TOPAMANIA!!! Congrats Stan. No problem here with 5th for Stan here.

Placing Unknown: RUSTY JEFFERS - In my opinion, the CLEAR WINNER based on the pics. I kept searching for photos of Rusty next to Bob and THERE WERE NONE. I'd love to see if they got a call-out together since they appeared to be the clear top 2. Rusty had by far the best combination of shape, size, and conditioning of all of the entrants. Terrific abs, great taper, good legs, just a SUPERIOR package on this day. A spot-on Chick could beat him, but not a watery Bob. Sure the Christopher Street mustache is Out, but c'mon, it's the year of Brokeback Mountain. Well, I guess if Crash can beat Brokeback, anything can happen.

Also overlooked: John Simmons

As always, I'm being objective and balanced. No axes to grind here.

Special "Dogbreath" Ed
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: phyxsius on April 17, 2006, 03:45:32 AM
Bob is as smooth as iron board
Title: Re: Ok now I know Bob won
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 17, 2006, 03:47:32 AM
why work hard when you know the fix is in? :-\
240's 240th account no doubt :D
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Karl Kox on April 17, 2006, 07:54:38 AM
they didn´t let rusty stand next to bob, that says it all......


Yep
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: anvil on April 17, 2006, 09:10:35 AM
Rusty Jeffer is 5' 9" and weighs about 230-235, Bob is 6'0" and aobut 240-245, Rusty is not dwarfed by bob, they really needed a comparison.  Rusty placed 2nd in the superheavy class at the nationals in 2004, the last year he competed in it.
They definitely should have been compared, no doubt.  MONSTER SCREWAGE.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: onlyme on January 14, 2007, 07:56:38 PM
I was wondering why there is no Masters for this year.  Chic can you fill us in. Not another cancelled IFBB show is it.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Cap on January 14, 2007, 07:59:10 PM
Rusty is a big guy in person, I wonder how big Bob would appear.  Obviously he is big but I would imagine with three inches and 10 pounds on Rusty he would look bigger.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: alexxx on January 14, 2007, 08:07:37 PM
they didn´t let rusty stand next to bob, that says it all......

He should have went up beside chic anyways. Jeffers should have known something was not right and done something. The fans also should have done something.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on January 14, 2007, 08:11:15 PM
brutal bringing up the past with epic male fantasies added for effect
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on January 14, 2007, 08:53:19 PM
Bob looks smooth as hell in that front lat spread. 

Jeffers could have won if he'd lost that sorry stache.  A stache will cost you points in a bodybuilding contest, just ask Mike Mentzer....
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: TheBigAristotle on January 14, 2007, 08:59:33 PM
I like Bob a lot but that show was a joke.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Chick on January 14, 2007, 09:24:42 PM
Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwnnn!

Same shit different day...feel free to look at the video on bodybuilding.com, make your own call.

BTW...I didn't judge.

For those that bothered to read MY comments after the show...I too felt Rusty should have been in the top 5....

No one that was actually there and watched it live and in person, disputed the win....
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Big N on January 14, 2007, 09:38:01 PM
Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwnnn!

Same shit different day...feel free to look at the video on bodybuilding.com, make your own call.

BTW...I didn't judge.

For those that bothered to read MY comments after the show...I too felt Rusty should have been in the top 5....

No one that was actually there and watched it live and in person, disputed the win....


Curious question bro, what did you think about his symmetry and conditioning?
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Chick on January 14, 2007, 09:48:56 PM
Both were good...he had a better and more complete physique than some of the guys placed before him. I also had the  guy in 6th (Nathan Wonsley) in the top 5...never even looked or noticed Johnny Stewart, I thought Wonsley was better by far.

I always tended to place guys with better balance/ symmetry over guys that are missing parts but hve great conditioning...
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Stavios on January 14, 2007, 09:51:11 PM
Rudy Soliman from montreal would have placed top 3 if he hadn't tore every muscle in his arms !

Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: shiftedShapes on January 15, 2007, 02:31:40 AM
MONSTER THREAD RESURECTION

GOOD THING i NEVER CHANGE MY AVATAR

<---------------lololol
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: MikeThaMachine on January 15, 2007, 04:56:37 AM
Both were good...he had a better and more complete physique than some of the guys placed before him. I also had the  guy in 6th (Nathan Wonsley) in the top 5...never even looked or noticed Johnny Stewart, I thought Wonsley was better by far.

I always tended to place guys with better balance/ symmetry over guys that are missing parts but hve great conditioning...

I feel the same way about judging, I hate when someone who looks incomplete beats out someone much more complete based solely on conditioning, that being said both you and Rusty were very complete but he def lacked some conditioning but should have been in the top 3 at least.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: shootfighter1 on January 15, 2007, 07:51:06 AM
Rusty should have been somewhere in the top 3 for sure.  Looks like he could have been in a little better condition...that may have cost him.  His physique, however, is very symmetrical, aesthetic and appears 10 yrs younger than he is.  Even being a little off condition, no way anyone but Chick (and maybe Pavol) should have finished ahead of Rusty.  Rusty in peak condition could have taken the title.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: gymguy on January 15, 2007, 03:24:18 PM
Rusty should have won.  Poor judging, again.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on January 15, 2007, 08:33:08 PM
Chick, I think that you thought "lines" for your contest were what Kelly and Craig were snorting prior to their haul off to jail.  You were SOFT and SMOOTH.

Did you get a gift?  You and I both know you did.  BUT, you've put yourself out there enough on boards and as the I.F.B.B. representitive, you're a moving target for the haters on here. 

Come clean or don't come at all.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Kegdrainer on January 15, 2007, 08:54:07 PM
rofl...

bob would get owned by local natty bber's


Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Chick on January 15, 2007, 09:11:33 PM
Bro...you're owned by anyone under 300 lbs.

Get a life, Loser..
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: SecondFocus on January 15, 2007, 09:29:17 PM
From the perspective of front row center; Pavol was very impressive but just didn't have the flow and the lines. He also does not present as well as he once did. Rusty does have the thickness and size but lacks some of the aesthetics you look for overall.

Bob nailed it pure and simple. Everyone around me and everyone during the break between pre and finals commenting that the show belonged to Bob unless he really fell off during the finals. And he did not. Sometimes when someone walks out onto the stage you just know that they won. And this was the case this time for Bob. He came in at 110% and it all was at the right time. The judging also was not even close.

That is the perspective when you actually go to shows, you learn and see things differently. So even if you get out to just your local shows, please do it. After a few you will start seeing things differently. And you might have a lot more fun than just playing on the computer.

And for those of you who keep imaging that these shows are fixed. Sorry guys, no one cares enough to fix a show and there would be no money in it.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: bigbiceps on January 15, 2007, 09:33:34 PM
So will the IFBB put on a masters show this year?  I would love to see Bob vs. Rusty this year that would be great!  :D
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Chick on January 15, 2007, 09:38:02 PM
None scheduled...not profitable for the promoters.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2007, 10:44:46 PM
Rusty is doing the Ironman in a few weeks. 


www.rustyjeffers.net
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: kh300 on January 15, 2007, 11:33:47 PM
Both were good...he had a better and more complete physique than some of the guys placed before him. I also had the  guy in 6th (Nathan Wonsley) in the top 5...never even looked or noticed Johnny Stewart, I thought Wonsley was better by far.

I always tended to place guys with better balance/ symmetry over guys that are missing parts but hve great conditioning...

agreed,, conditioning is based on what you've done in the last few weeks/days.. balance and symmetry is what you've done in the gym your whole life... years of training should be worth more then a few weeks of cardio
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: 210 and growing on January 16, 2007, 01:04:37 AM
None scheduled...not profitable for the promoters.

Bob, are you planning on competing in 2007 or you not gonna have time with the baby and all?? You reckon you could qualify for the olympia this year if you do ?
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: MikeThaMachine on January 16, 2007, 02:27:23 AM
And for those of you who keep imaging that these shows are fixed. Sorry guys, no one cares enough to fix a show and there would be no money in it.

Not saying they are truly fixed but it makes you wonder when Coleman wins posing round after posing round and the guy for sure isn't known for his posing. I am sure if you see the scorecard to any show you will be left wondering how did this guy win or place so high in the posing round and then the guy who wins best poser doesn't even make the top 3-5 in that round.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: jacked on January 16, 2007, 06:08:56 AM
Right from the jump anyone who knows anything about bb knows Jeffers got ripped off.  Bob looks about 8 weeks out. Jeffers has classic shape, no outstanding weaknesses and was way sharper.  Bobs physique looks like a train wreck.  Horrible.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: jesusbod on January 16, 2007, 06:46:31 AM
both of them are smooth as a babies bottom..  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: MikeThaMachine on January 16, 2007, 06:58:36 AM
Vince Taylor would have owned everyone if he had done the contest.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: shootfighter1 on January 16, 2007, 07:06:20 AM
This doesn't seem like a fix to me.  Bob looked good enough to argueably be the winner. 
Pavol is awesome but has looked better in other shows.  Will be good to see what Rusty brings to the Ironman.

Some of you guys just like to give Bob shit.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: SecondFocus on January 16, 2007, 07:37:12 AM
Rusty could really bring it in for the Iron Man. I think it is great he is doing that show.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: onlyme on January 16, 2007, 11:35:02 AM

And for those of you who keep imaging that these shows are fixed. Sorry guys, no one cares enough to fix a show and there would be no money in it.

Totally wrong statement and inaccurate statement.  You bet there is money in it.  If a major sponsor is giving you $10,000+ in your pocket to support your show they are going to want something.  If not then there sponsorship money will either go away or be reduced greatly.  Being a company that sponsors a show that has a sponsored athlete will benefit a whole lot if their athlete wins the show.  This will help in marketing their product which in turn turns into revenue.  It happens all the time and especially nowadays.  Money will make you do allot.  That is why no show should have Manion in charge of the judging.  He should have absolutely no access to judges and be NO part of the selection process for the judges and absoultely should not be the headjudge at shows.  Not sure if he was present at the Montreal Pro last year (was he) but look at the judging there.  Only 5 judges and some other stuff that I can't remember happening there.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: donrhummy on January 16, 2007, 12:01:11 PM
Everyone's going about this all wrong. The problem is not that Rusty should have destroyed Chick, it's that he was not even in the top 5 nor compared to Chick. Chick wasn't bad. Chick was NOT a piece of crap. He looked great and was clearly one of the best physiques there. Should Rusty have beaten Chick? Maybe, but he wasn't even given a chance to compete and THAT's the tragedy/fix.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Victor VonDoom on January 16, 2007, 12:09:06 PM
Everyone's going about this all wrong. The problem is not that Rusty should have destroyed Chick, it's that he was not even in the top 5 nor compared to Chick. Chick wasn't bad. Chick was NOT a piece of crap. He looked great and was clearly one of the best physiques there. Should Rusty have beaten Chick? Maybe, but he wasn't even given a chance to compete and THAT's the tragedy/fix.

Doom agrees!  Bah!
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: natural al on January 16, 2007, 12:12:43 PM
Doom agrees!  Bah!

Doom rules.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on January 16, 2007, 12:27:57 PM
Of course it was fixed. Is there really any question that Chick was going to win? His sponsors didn't pay all that money to put the show on so their boy could come in second.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: BayGBM on January 16, 2007, 12:33:15 PM
Of course it was fixed. Is there really any question that Chick was going to win? His sponsors didn't pay all that money to put the show on so their boy could come in second.

I repeat: the “IFBB Masters Professional World Champion” was not a real contest.  That particular contest/title never existed before 2006 and I’m fairly certain it will never be staged again.   ::)
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on January 16, 2007, 12:35:57 PM
I repeat: the “IFBB Masters Professional World Champion” was not a real contest.  That particular contest/title did never existed before and I’m fairly certain it will never be staged again.   ::)

For some reason certain people don't want to believe it. I think there's a group of people that find it hard to believe that anyone would do anything nefarious, especially someone they interact with.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: BayGBM on January 16, 2007, 12:43:21 PM
For some reason certain people don't want to believe it. I think there's a group of people that find it hard to believe that anyone would do anything nefarious, especially someone they interact with.

Alas, you are correct.  These are the same people who believe that Ted Haggard bought the crystal meth--but then threw it away without ever trying it.  And he only got a "massage" from Mike Jones.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: buffbodz on January 16, 2007, 12:47:34 PM
I repeat: the “IFBB Masters Professional World Champion” was not a real contest.  That particular contest/title did never existed before and I’m fairly certain it will never be staged again.   ::)

What tittles did Taylor, Youngblood, Chick, And all these guys?
http://www.getbig.com/results/mens/mastersolympia.htm
Is it just a play on words?
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on January 16, 2007, 12:48:27 PM
Alas, you are correct.  These are the same people who believe that Ted Haggard bought the crystal meth--but then threw it away without ever trying it.  And he only got a "massage" from Mike Jones.

Don't forget that Clinton never actually inhaled, he just kept the smoke in his mouth and then blew it out.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: onlyme on January 16, 2007, 12:50:15 PM
Of course it was fixed. Is there really any question that Chick was going to win? His sponsors didn't pay all that money to put the show on so their boy could come in second.

100% correct.  Finally someone gets it.  I do love Chics excuse though why no more show.  Cause the promoter says it wasn't profitable.  I love that one.  He needed at least one win as a pro.  It gives him a title which is far more impressive for advertisement and promotional purposes.  Whether or not Chic realizes this (which he doesn't) this show was built around him.  Being the IFBB rep, emceeing different shows, making appearances, doing ads, getting sponsors, having crediability are all allot easier once you have a title.  This is a fact.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 16, 2007, 12:58:37 PM
100% correct.  Finally someone gets it.  I do love Chics excuse though why no more show.  Cause the promoter says it wasn't profitable.  I love that one.  He needed at least one win as a pro.  It gives him a title which is far more impressive for advertisement and promotional purposes.  Whether or not Chic realizes this (which he doesn't) this show was built around him.  Being the IFBB rep, emceeing different shows, making appearances, doing ads, getting sponsors, having crediability are all allot easier once you have a title.  This is a fact.

Holy crap.................I actually agree with you
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Chick on January 16, 2007, 04:04:36 PM
Of course it was fixed. Is there really any question that Chick was going to win? His sponsors didn't pay all that money to put the show on so their boy could come in second.

Pay all WHAT money? BB.com wasn't a major sponsor...the only sponsorship we did was buying booth space...like everyone else...the webcast cost US money to shoot and produce.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: ribonucleic on January 16, 2007, 04:14:21 PM
"A conflict of interest is a situation in which someone in a position of trust, such as a lawyer, a politician, or an executive or director of a corporation, has competing professional or personal interests. Such competing interests can make it difficult to fulfill his or her duties impartially. Even if there is no evidence of improper actions, a conflict of interest can create an appearance of impropriety that can undermine confidence in the ability of that person to act properly in his/her position."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest)
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Chick on January 16, 2007, 04:23:23 PM
100% correct.  Finally someone gets it.  I do love Chics excuse though why no more show.  Cause the promoter says it wasn't profitable.  I love that one.  He needed at least one win as a pro.  It gives him a title which is far more impressive for advertisement and promotional purposes.  Whether or not Chic realizes this (which he doesn't) this show was built around him.  Being the IFBB rep, emceeing different shows, making appearances, doing ads, getting sponsors, having crediability are all allot easier once you have a title.  This is a fact.

One of your dumbest posts....yes, the promoter said it wasn't profitable. It wasn't. Same as the Masters O wasn't...it doesn't generate enough interest or sell any additional tickets to compensate for the purse...this aint rocket science, Keith...

BTW...I had all of what you mention BEFORE the show, or whether or not I won was irrelevant. The only reason the show had the interest level it did was because I made a Fitshow continuing series around it, and used the radio show to promote it, as well as call out every BB that was eligable...

Half the people watched the webcast to see me get my ass kicked...and half watched to see me win...get over it already, 90% of you here on this site called it wrong and don't know shit about BB.

Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on January 16, 2007, 04:36:34 PM
90% of you here on this site called it wrong and don't know shit about BB.



Yeah, you're right you smoked Rusty.  ::)

Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: ribonucleic on January 16, 2007, 04:44:56 PM
get over it already, 90% of you here on this site called it wrong and don't know shit about BB.

(http://www.mykohh.com/images/graphic/logos/meltdown.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 16, 2007, 04:56:03 PM
I actually spoke to one of the judges who voted for Chick, and asked him how he could've put Bob ahead of Rusty. All he said was "Ho Ho Ho."
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: SecondFocus on January 16, 2007, 05:11:21 PM
All wrong guys. Even if BodyBuidling.com had been a big sponsor (and they were not) they were sure not gonna put up 10 grand so Bob could win. Makes no difference, none.

And this year the promoter decided that this was just not a profitable show so they didn't do it anymore. That simple.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Darth Muscle on January 16, 2007, 06:04:02 PM
Johnny Stewart should have won plan and simple.  Nothing against Bob or Rusty, but Johnny was the best that day.  But he never cried or complained about it. 
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Bast000 on January 16, 2007, 06:07:52 PM
Johnny Stewart should have won plan and simple.  Nothing against Bob or Rusty, but Johnny was the best that day.  But he never cried or complained about it. 

haha ok Darth Vader ::)
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Wombat on January 16, 2007, 08:44:46 PM
Johnny Stewart should have won plan and simple.  Nothing against Bob or Rusty, but Johnny was the best that day.  But he never cried or complained about it. 

Johnny stewart shouldn't even have been in the top five...He had the stupidest looking body on the stage...Talk about a guy who put on way to much muscle for his frame...And its thrown everywhere...He wrecked his look completely..
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: MikeThaMachine on January 17, 2007, 02:41:06 AM
Johnny Stewart should have won plan and simple.  Nothing against Bob or Rusty, but Johnny was the best that day.  But he never cried or complained about it. 

What a retarded comment or are you doin g4p with him now to pay for your 'supplements'.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Darth Muscle on January 17, 2007, 09:16:23 AM
What a retarded comment or are you doin g4p with him now to pay for your 'supplements'.

I'm sure you know all about retarded "Mike the Machine".  Like a dick sucking machine.
Title: Re: Bob Chick vs. Rusty Jeffer vs. Pavol J
Post by: Wombat on January 17, 2007, 08:08:34 PM
Bro...you're owned by anyone under 300 lbs.

Get a life, Loser..

c'on Bob how can you call this guy a loser?

1. You do realise that he place 3rd in the butterbean look-a-like contest in 01...
2. Placed second in a hotdog eating contest 02...
3. Was one of the guys who had his back hair naired off in a commercial against the tobacco industry...
4. Was the single reason Mike Meyers developed the role "Fat Bastard" in his Austin Powers movies...
5. His picture has been used by three different weight loss companies as the "before" photo...

this guy has quite the resume' Bob...Show some respect..