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Saw another documentary about strongmen on Netflix. All psychologically busted people. Saw Gen Iron 3. Various foreign bodybuilders all dreaming of going to “Amerreeca” because of how lame their own countries are with bodybuilding or generally.
Talk of miserable backgrounds, a lack of understanding of why common people don’t compete physically while ignoring most can’t. Talk of being sore losers. Shaw spoke of how he can’t deal with losing at anything, including boardgames and can’t understand those who don’t compete in something. Lots of contempt for ordinary people thrown around in all these documentaries, even though the majority of competitors wind up broke and busted.
A lot of these docs are depressing.
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Un-gaying the thread...
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Saw another documentary about strongmen on Netflix. All psychologically busted people. Saw Gen Iron 3. Various foreign bodybuilders all dreaming of going to “Amerreeca” because of how lame their own countries are with bodybuilding or generally.
Talk of miserable backgrounds, a lack of understanding of why common people don’t compete physically while ignoring most can’t. Talk of being sore losers. Shaw spoke of how he can’t deal with losing at anything, including boardgames and can’t understand those who don’t compete in something. Lots of contempt for ordinary people thrown around in all these documentaries, even though the majority of competitors wind up broke and busted.
A lot of these docs are depressing.
Are you okay?
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Un-gaying the thread...
;D
I used to throw the game board if I lost as a little kid.
I'm bad.
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Saw another documentary about strongmen on Netflix. All psychologically busted people. Saw Gen Iron 3. Various foreign bodybuilders all dreaming of going to “Amerreeca” because of how lame their own countries are with bodybuilding or generally.
Talk of miserable backgrounds, a lack of understanding of why common people don’t compete physically while ignoring most can’t. Talk of being sore losers. Shaw spoke of how he can’t deal with losing at anything, including boardgames and can’t understand those who don’t compete in something. Lots of contempt for ordinary people thrown around in all these documentaries, even though the majority of competitors wind up broke and busted.
A lot of these docs are depressing.
Look at yourself. Your life must be going no where if this is the first thing on your mind on a Sunday morning. Get help.
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Consider you never see a a champion boxer come from a rich back ground. Growing up with nothing makes you tough. Kids from decent house holds try boxing then after getting hit several times realize it's not a sport but a fight. Same with many MMA guys.
Bodybuilding attracts a lot of insecure guys who need validation that they are a man. To achieve that means they will risk health taking drugs. Then they are walking around getting compliments from the clueless about their manliness. On cycle they are aggressive, confident and steroids work as an antidepressant as a feeling of well being becomes addictive. Once off cycle and months have passed then meekness, nervousness and feeling of depression sets in. Then the muscles leave and working out seems like a waste of time. To add insult any gym time has a negative mental effect because weights that were used every workout seem impossible to lift. The addiction to feel "right" again becomes an obsession. Soon like a heroin addict the craving overwhelms and soon they are at the gym at the trunk of a car of the local gym drug dealer buying their new cycle. After craving for a fix they rush home and fill their syringe and jab their ass. They pop a couple of pills and they know in the morning they are in the come back phase in the gym. In a short two weeks they can feel them self getting stronger, bigger and more confident. Muscle memory along with the chemical assist is working. In just two weeks they can see the change. In six weeks it will be drastic. Welcome to the monkey on your back.
They keep telling them self there is nothing to worry about. Your dealer only gets the legit stuff, right? No counterfeit contaminated testosterone derivatives from China. Who has the technology to fake labels and inserts, right? Now you cycle on and off for about a decade or more. No real career because your sole focus is chasing the syringe life style. Your friends now have houses, families and a career but hell you have muscles. Soon being the popular muscle guy in the club gets old. It becomes embarrassing picking up the 22 year old girl at her house when you're 36 meeting the parents. Your job bouncing, selling juice and the three clients you have personal training isn't a career path. Your aging parents are talking about down sizing and moving to Florida. I guess no more basement for free anymore. The thought of getting an apartment in a hell hole apartment complex fills your thoughts. Now if only you had any savings? Steroids, gas, insurance, clubbing, and life takes every penny. You think if I only learned a trade but at the time it would have interfered with contest prep for that third place engraved metal plate you hang so proudly next to your framed picture of yourself. Maybe you will get back with that divorced older mom. She had a house you could live in. Welcome to bodybuilding.
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Consider you never see a a champion boxer come from a rich back ground. Growing up with nothing makes you tough. Kids from decent house holds try boxing then after getting hit several times realize it's not a sport but a fight. Same with many MMA guys.
Bodybuilding attracts a lot of insecure guys who need validation that they are a man. To achieve that means they will risk health taking drugs. Then they are walking around getting compliments from the clueless about their manliness. On cycle they are aggressive, confident and steroids work as an antidepressant as a feeling of well being becomes addictive. Once off cycle and months have passed then meekness, nervousness and feeling of depression sets in. Then the muscles leave and working out seems like a waste of time. To add insult any gym time has a negative mental effect because weights that were used every workout seem impossible to lift. The addiction to feel "right" again becomes an obsession. Soon like a heroin addict the craving overwhelms and soon they are at the gym at the trunk of a car of the local gym drug dealer buying their new cycle. After craving for a fix they rush home and fill their syringe and jab their ass. They pop a couple of pills and they know in the morning they are in the come back phase in the gym. In a short two weeks they can feel them self getting stronger, bigger and more confident. Muscle memory along with the chemical assist is working. In just two weeks they can see the change. In six weeks it will be drastic. Welcome to the monkey on your back.
They keep telling them self there is nothing to worry about. Your dealer only gets the legit stuff, right? No counterfeit contaminated testosterone derivatives from China. Who has the technology to fake labels and inserts, right? Now you cycle on and off for about a decade or more. No real career because your sole focus is chasing the syringe life style. Your friends now have houses, families and a career but hell you have muscles. Soon being the popular muscle guy in the club gets old. It becomes embarrassing picking up the 22 year old girl at her house when you're 36 meeting the parents. Your job bouncing, selling juice and the three clients you have personal training isn't a career path. Your aging parents are talking about down sizing and moving to Florida. I guess no more basement for free anymore. The thought of getting an apartment in a hell hole apartment complex fills your thoughts. Now if only you had any savings? Steroids, gas, insurance, clubbing, and life takes every penny. You think if I only learned a trade but at the time it would have interfered with contest prep for that third place engraved metal plate you hang so proudly next to your framed picture of yourself. Maybe you will get back with that divorced older mom. She had a house you could live in. Welcome to bodybuilding.
Well written, my friend.
It reads like "Groink's" life. If you add in whining on social media about your fans should be giving you a dollar each because you have sickle cell anemia then you've got the Robbie Robinson Imitation Of Life. ;D
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Odtimer1 nailed it..lol
The sport is full of losers
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Oldtimer hits the nail on the head again.
Awesome.
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Question who is the bigger basket case, those who use an extreme amount of drugs to win events or those who post on message boards about what a loser you have to be to want to win said events?
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Question who is the bigger basket case, those who use an extreme amount of drugs to win events or those who post on message boards about what a loser you have to be to want to win said events?
Easy. The former is far more an IOL than the latter. I would imagine that the majority of posters here in this section are gainfully employed or perhaps retired.
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Consider you never see a a champion boxer come from a rich back ground. Growing up with nothing makes you tough. Kids from decent house holds try boxing then after getting hit several times realize it's not a sport but a fight. Same with many MMA guys.
Bodybuilding attracts a lot of insecure guys who need validation that they are a man. To achieve that means they will risk health taking drugs. Then they are walking around getting compliments from the clueless about their manliness. On cycle they are aggressive, confident and steroids work as an antidepressant as a feeling of well being becomes addictive. Once off cycle and months have passed then meekness, nervousness and feeling of depression sets in. Then the muscles leave and working out seems like a waste of time. To add insult any gym time has a negative mental effect because weights that were used every workout seem impossible to lift. The addiction to feel "right" again becomes an obsession. Soon like a heroin addict the craving overwhelms and soon they are at the gym at the trunk of a car of the local gym drug dealer buying their new cycle. After craving for a fix they rush home and fill their syringe and jab their ass. They pop a couple of pills and they know in the morning they are in the come back phase in the gym. In a short two weeks they can feel them self getting stronger, bigger and more confident. Muscle memory along with the chemical assist is working. In just two weeks they can see the change. In six weeks it will be drastic. Welcome to the monkey on your back.
They keep telling them self there is nothing to worry about. Your dealer only gets the legit stuff, right? No counterfeit contaminated testosterone derivatives from China. Who has the technology to fake labels and inserts, right? Now you cycle on and off for about a decade or more. No real career because your sole focus is chasing the syringe life style. Your friends now have houses, families and a career but hell you have muscles. Soon being the popular muscle guy in the club gets old. It becomes embarrassing picking up the 22 year old girl at her house when you're 36 meeting the parents. Your job bouncing, selling juice and the three clients you have personal training isn't a career path. Your aging parents are talking about down sizing and moving to Florida. I guess no more basement for free anymore. The thought of getting an apartment in a hell hole apartment complex fills your thoughts. Now if only you had any savings? Steroids, gas, insurance, clubbing, and life takes every penny. You think if I only learned a trade but at the time it would have interfered with contest prep for that third place engraved metal plate you hang so proudly next to your framed picture of yourself. Maybe you will get back with that divorced older mom. She had a house you could live in. Welcome to bodybuilding.
Haha this is great
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Consider you never see a a champion boxer come from a rich back ground. Growing up with nothing makes you tough. Kids from decent house holds try boxing then after getting hit several times realize it's not a sport but a fight. Same with many MMA guys.
Bodybuilding attracts a lot of insecure guys who need validation that they are a man. To achieve that means they will risk health taking drugs. Then they are walking around getting compliments from the clueless about their manliness. On cycle they are aggressive, confident and steroids work as an antidepressant as a feeling of well being becomes addictive. Once off cycle and months have passed then meekness, nervousness and feeling of depression sets in. Then the muscles leave and working out seems like a waste of time. To add insult any gym time has a negative mental effect because weights that were used every workout seem impossible to lift. The addiction to feel "right" again becomes an obsession. Soon like a heroin addict the craving overwhelms and soon they are at the gym at the trunk of a car of the local gym drug dealer buying their new cycle. After craving for a fix they rush home and fill their syringe and jab their ass. They pop a couple of pills and they know in the morning they are in the come back phase in the gym. In a short two weeks they can feel them self getting stronger, bigger and more confident. Muscle memory along with the chemical assist is working. In just two weeks they can see the change. In six weeks it will be drastic. Welcome to the monkey on your back.
They keep telling them self there is nothing to worry about. Your dealer only gets the legit stuff, right? No counterfeit contaminated testosterone derivatives from China. Who has the technology to fake labels and inserts, right? Now you cycle on and off for about a decade or more. No real career because your sole focus is chasing the syringe life style. Your friends now have houses, families and a career but hell you have muscles. Soon being the popular muscle guy in the club gets old. It becomes embarrassing picking up the 22 year old girl at her house when you're 36 meeting the parents. Your job bouncing, selling juice and the three clients you have personal training isn't a career path. Your aging parents are talking about down sizing and moving to Florida. I guess no more basement for free anymore. The thought of getting an apartment in a hell hole apartment complex fills your thoughts. Now if only you had any savings? Steroids, gas, insurance, clubbing, and life takes every penny. You think if I only learned a trade but at the time it would have interfered with contest prep for that third place engraved metal plate you hang so proudly next to your framed picture of yourself. Maybe you will get back with that divorced older mom. She had a house you could live in. Welcome to bodybuilding.
Great post.
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Look at yourself. Your life must be going no where if this is the first thing on your mind on a Sunday morning. Get help.
It wasn't the first thing on my mind. I got up, went for a 45 minute walk for cardio, foam rolled, and stretched. Then as I was thinking of the documentaries I watched yesterday, my thoughts about the documentaries occurred to me. So far today I went to church with my wife and kid, ate breakfast at a diner, did some errands with them and chores around the home. It has been a great day so far.
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Consider you never see a a champion boxer come from a rich back ground. Growing up with nothing makes you tough. Kids from decent house holds try boxing then after getting hit several times realize it's not a sport but a fight. Same with many MMA guys.
Bodybuilding attracts a lot of insecure guys who need validation that they are a man. To achieve that means they will risk health taking drugs. Then they are walking around getting compliments from the clueless about their manliness. On cycle they are aggressive, confident and steroids work as an antidepressant as a feeling of well being becomes addictive. Once off cycle and months have passed then meekness, nervousness and feeling of depression sets in. Then the muscles leave and working out seems like a waste of time. To add insult any gym time has a negative mental effect because weights that were used every workout seem impossible to lift. The addiction to feel "right" again becomes an obsession. Soon like a heroin addict the craving overwhelms and soon they are at the gym at the trunk of a car of the local gym drug dealer buying their new cycle. After craving for a fix they rush home and fill their syringe and jab their ass. They pop a couple of pills and they know in the morning they are in the come back phase in the gym. In a short two weeks they can feel them self getting stronger, bigger and more confident. Muscle memory along with the chemical assist is working. In just two weeks they can see the change. In six weeks it will be drastic. Welcome to the monkey on your back.
They keep telling them self there is nothing to worry about. Your dealer only gets the legit stuff, right? No counterfeit contaminated testosterone derivatives from China. Who has the technology to fake labels and inserts, right? Now you cycle on and off for about a decade or more. No real career because your sole focus is chasing the syringe life style. Your friends now have houses, families and a career but hell you have muscles. Soon being the popular muscle guy in the club gets old. It becomes embarrassing picking up the 22 year old girl at her house when you're 36 meeting the parents. Your job bouncing, selling juice and the three clients you have personal training isn't a career path. Your aging parents are talking about down sizing and moving to Florida. I guess no more basement for free anymore. The thought of getting an apartment in a hell hole apartment complex fills your thoughts. Now if only you had any savings? Steroids, gas, insurance, clubbing, and life takes every penny. You think if I only learned a trade but at the time it would have interfered with contest prep for that third place engraved metal plate you hang so proudly next to your framed picture of yourself. Maybe you will get back with that divorced older mom. She had a house you could live in. Welcome to bodybuilding.
sadly getting a house and a so called "career" in corporate world isn't what it is cracked up to be either. So you struggle most of your life paying off that stupid house and vehicles that mostly gives you headaches anyways. And "love" statistically only lasts for 2 years so the wife turns into a nagging friend.
I bet the single guy just going his own path living spartan in a simple apartment doing what he feels like travelling when he wants is the happiest man in the end.
Feeling positive today :D
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Oldtimer...you should write a book. That was a great post.
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It wasn't the first thing on my mind. I got up, went for a 45 minute walk for cardio, foam rolled, and stretched. Then as I was thinking of the documentaries I watched yesterday, my thoughts about the documentaries occurred to me. So far today I went to church with my wife and kid, ate breakfast at a diner, did some errands with them and chores around the home. It has been a great day so far.
Wrong.
You did all this after posting on getbig.
And you acted like you were using your bible app on your phone while in church but you were actually checking what was being posted on getbig.
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Wrong.
You did all this after posting on getbig.
And you acted like you were using your bible app on your phone while in church but you were actually checking what was being posted on getbig.
Phone was turned off in church and at the diner. Phone is off during church and at the breakfast and dinner table with my family.
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I bet the single guy just going his own path living spartan in a simple apartment doing what he feels like travelling when he wants is the happiest man in the end.
bingo
less is more - avoid debt, navigate around huge disasters as best as you can. enjoy the simple things, travel, experience new cultures.
i got lucky with bbing since i finished college/got into a good professional field when i was young, if i went full bber retard mode at the age of 24 i would be in a different place. i am now in my 30s; yes doing bbing but i have the partying behind me so will power/prep is easier, i have a career as well too. so I dont "ugh" when i am doing a show.
also i believe you should be "off" in the off season. and take long breaks so you never burn out and when you do compete it feels amazing. i am so excited to compete after 2.5 years since my last show. as close as possible as a virgin high
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Bodybuilding attracts a lot of insecure guys who need validation that they are a man. To achieve that means they will risk health taking drugs. Then they are walking around getting compliments from the clueless about their manliness. On cycle they are aggressive, confident and steroids work as an antidepressant as a feeling of well being becomes addictive. Once off cycle and months have passed then meekness, nervousness and feeling of depression sets in. Then the muscles leave and working out seems like a waste of time. To add insult any gym time has a negative mental effect because weights that were used every workout seem impossible to lift. The addiction to feel "right" again becomes an obsession. Soon like a heroin addict the craving overwhelms and soon they are at the gym at the trunk of a car of the local gym drug dealer buying their new cycle. After craving for a fix they rush home and fill their syringe and jab their ass. They pop a couple of pills and they know in the morning they are in the come back phase in the gym. In a short two weeks they can feel them self getting stronger, bigger and more confident. Muscle memory along with the chemical assist is working. In just two weeks they can see the change. In six weeks it will be drastic. Welcome to the monkey on your back.
if i could give any advice ive learned from bbing is this = #1 max out your natural build as much as you can. i mean really take your natural build as far as you can go so you will need less chemicals and #2 also learn to love your natural build.
if you are happy with your best natty build or "clean body" your mental health will be way better when you go on and off
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all that said and done, T really is man's best ally
man's energy of life is T
so, i would gladly be addicted to it
doesnt mean i can't have a full and rich life on it, quite on the contrary!
that and i don't care about how any other moron uses it, as long as i'm using it right and therein lies the key
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Phone was turned off in church and at the diner. Phone is off during church and at the breakfast and dinner table with my family.
I sat behind you bro. The phone was on in church.
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Consider you never see a a champion boxer come from a rich back ground. Growing up with nothing makes you tough. Kids from decent house holds try boxing then after getting hit several times realize it's not a sport but a fight. Same with many MMA guys.
Bodybuilding attracts a lot of insecure guys who need validation that they are a man. To achieve that means they will risk health taking drugs. Then they are walking around getting compliments from the clueless about their manliness. On cycle they are aggressive, confident and steroids work as an antidepressant as a feeling of well being becomes addictive. Once off cycle and months have passed then meekness, nervousness and feeling of depression sets in. Then the muscles leave and working out seems like a waste of time. To add insult any gym time has a negative mental effect because weights that were used every workout seem impossible to lift. The addiction to feel "right" again becomes an obsession. Soon like a heroin addict the craving overwhelms and soon they are at the gym at the trunk of a car of the local gym drug dealer buying their new cycle. After craving for a fix they rush home and fill their syringe and jab their ass. They pop a couple of pills and they know in the morning they are in the come back phase in the gym. In a short two weeks they can feel them self getting stronger, bigger and more confident. Muscle memory along with the chemical assist is working. In just two weeks they can see the change. In six weeks it will be drastic. Welcome to the monkey on your back.
They keep telling them self there is nothing to worry about. Your dealer only gets the legit stuff, right? No counterfeit contaminated testosterone derivatives from China. Who has the technology to fake labels and inserts, right? Now you cycle on and off for about a decade or more. No real career because your sole focus is chasing the syringe life style. Your friends now have houses, families and a career but hell you have muscles. Soon being the popular muscle guy in the club gets old. It becomes embarrassing picking up the 22 year old girl at her house when you're 36 meeting the parents. Your job bouncing, selling juice and the three clients you have personal training isn't a career path. Your aging parents are talking about down sizing and moving to Florida. I guess no more basement for free anymore. The thought of getting an apartment in a hell hole apartment complex fills your thoughts. Now if only you had any savings? Steroids, gas, insurance, clubbing, and life takes every penny. You think if I only learned a trade but at the time it would have interfered with contest prep for that third place engraved metal plate you hang so proudly next to your framed picture of yourself. Maybe you will get back with that divorced older mom. She had a house you could live in. Welcome to bodybuilding.
:) :) :) :) :)
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the adonis complex is another great read too.
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Indeed, there is a long established literature on the Mental Malaise of Muscledom.
Sigmund Freud, for example, noted this infirmity in his early work, Bitte Liebe Meinen Bizeps, Oh Bitte (Please Love My Biceps, Oh Please). Before publishing his now famous theory of the "Unconscious," Freud initially modeled his early structural theory of mind on the image of a contracted biceps, arguing that all the vital activity which screams, "Boom! Take a look at this hunk of man," has its origins within the mysterious depths of what he first called "The Sub-cutaneous" (das Unterkutan), i.e., the inner realm of feeling which seeks its expression in the outer world of behavior. The Sub-cutaneous is a hotbed of impulses that lie under the skin, as it were, which are fundamentally irrational and violent, often surfacing in the bellicose language of going to 'battle,' or to 'war' with the 'iron' or other imagined enemies – a kind of fantasy for those too weak to accept their natural and social inadequacies.
Erik Erikson, who was deeply influenced by Freud’s early work on the flexed or 'crooked' and 'bent' symbol of strength, picked up on these troubled delusions and identified eight crisis moments in human development, specifically classifying the beginnings of the bodybuilder in Stage 4: Industry v. Inferiority. Self-esteem has its origins at this stage insofar as human beings feel the need to win approval by demonstrating specific competencies that are valued by society. However, bodybuilding is not valued by society, but is in the main ridiculed as odd and extremely weird. Erikson showed how bodybuilders are individuals who failed to overcome this moment of crisis because they lack true self-esteem, often resorting to the company of other misfits to feel accepted, to be respected, to be taken seriously. Also noting the inherent violence of sub-cutaneous feelings, Erikson puzzled to answer why it is that the flexing and contracting of limbs is often accompanied by facial expressions of snarls, growls, and the baring of teeth. Is hitting a double-biceps, lat spread, or most muscular pose some kind of victorious combat over vanquished foes? Sadly, Erikson reasoned that bodybuilders, most especially mature ones with flat, blocky heads looking to do "damage" in their thongs, are stuck or "fixated" at this stage.
Ultimately, if all of these shortcomings obtain, what manifests is what C.J. Jung identified as a "Schmoeversion," typified by a schmoevert, in the passive sense, or, if active, as Dementia Burneikada, especially around swimming pools.
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Indeed, there is a long established literature on the Mental Malaise of Muscledom.
Sigmund Freud, for example, noted this infirmity in his early work, Bitte Liebe Meinen Bizeps, Oh Bitte (Please Love My Biceps, Oh Please). Before publishing his now famous theory of the "Unconscious," Freud initially modeled his early structural theory of mind on the image of a contracted biceps, arguing that all the vital activity that screams, "Boom! Take a look at this hunk of man," has its origins within the mysterious depths of what he initially called "The Sub-cutaneous" (das Unterkutan), i.e., the inner realm of feeling which seeks its expression in the outer world of behavior. The Sub-cutaneous is a hotbed of impulses that lie under the skin, as it were, which are fundamentally irrational and violent, often surfacing in the bellicose language of going to 'battle,' or to 'war' with the 'iron' or other imagined enemies – a kind of fantasy for those too weak to accept their natural and social inadequacies.
Erik Erickson, who was deeply influenced by Freud’s early work on the flexed or 'crooked' and 'bent' symbol of strength, picked up on these trouble delusions and identified eight crisis moments in human development, specifically classifying the beginnings of the bodybuilder in Stage 4: Industry v. Inferiority. Self-esteem has its origins at this stage insofar as human beings feel the need to win approval by demonstrating specific competencies that are valued by society. However, bodybuilding is not valued by society, but is in the main ridiculed as odd and extremely weird. Erikson showed how bodybuilders are individuals who failed to overcome this moment of crisis because they lack true self-esteem, often resorting to the company of other misfits to feel accepted, to be respected, to be taken seriously. Also noting the inherent violence on sub-cutaneous feelings, Erikson puzzled to answer why it is that the flexing and contracted of limbs are often accompanied by facial expressions of snarls, growls, and the baring of teeth. Is hitting a double-biceps, lat spread, or most muscular pose some kind of victorious combat over vanquished foes? Sadly, Erikson reasoned that bodybuilders, most especially mature ones with flat, blocky heads looking to do "damage" in their thongs, are stuck or "fixated" at this stage.
Ultimately, if all of these shortcomings obtain, what manifests is what C.J. Jung identified as a "Schmoeversion," typified by a schmoevert, in the passive sense, or, if active, as Dementia Burneikada, especially around swimming pools.
Brilliant!!!! ;D ;D
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I sat behind you bro. The phone was on in church.
Literal lulz. 😆
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Literal lulz. 😆
:)
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Indeed, there is a long established literature on the Mental Malaise of Muscledom.
Sigmund Freud, for example, noted this infirmity in his early work, Bitte Liebe Meinen Bizeps, Oh Bitte (Please Love My Biceps, Oh Please). Before publishing his now famous theory of the "Unconscious," Freud initially modeled his early structural theory of mind on the image of a contracted biceps, arguing that all the vital activity that screams, "Boom! Take a look at this hunk of man," has its origins within the mysterious depths of what he first called "The Sub-cutaneous" (das Unterkutan), i.e., the inner realm of feeling which seeks its expression in the outer world of behavior. The Sub-cutaneous is a hotbed of impulses that lie under the skin, as it were, which are fundamentally irrational and violent, often surfacing in the bellicose language of going to 'battle,' or to 'war' with the 'iron' or other imagined enemies – a kind of fantasy for those too weak to accept their natural and social inadequacies.
Erik Erikson, who was deeply influenced by Freud’s early work on the flexed or 'crooked' and 'bent' symbol of strength, picked up on these trouble delusions and identified eight crisis moments in human development, specifically classifying the beginnings of the bodybuilder in Stage 4: Industry v. Inferiority. Self-esteem has its origins at this stage insofar as human beings feel the need to win approval by demonstrating specific competencies that are valued by society. However, bodybuilding is not valued by society, but is in the main ridiculed as odd and extremely weird. Erikson showed how bodybuilders are individuals who failed to overcome this moment of crisis because they lack true self-esteem, often resorting to the company of other misfits to feel accepted, to be respected, to be taken seriously. Also noting the inherent violence of sub-cutaneous feelings, Erikson puzzled to answer why it is that the flexing and contracting of limbs is often accompanied by facial expressions of snarls, growls, and the baring of teeth. Is hitting a double-biceps, lat spread, or most muscular pose some kind of victorious combat over vanquished foes? Sadly, Erikson reasoned that bodybuilders, most especially mature ones with flat, blocky heads looking to do "damage" in their thongs, are stuck or "fixated" at this stage.
Ultimately, if all of these shortcomings obtain, what manifests is what C.J. Jung identified as a "Schmoeversion," typified by a schmoevert, in the passive sense, or, if active, as Dementia Burneikada, especially around swimming pools.
Haha great stuff, glad some of these fascinating and complex issues have been addressed by some of the great minds. Dementia Burneikada is a terrifying affliction and more wide spread than we first thought.
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This is easily one of getbig's best threads in a long time. Good Lord, oldtimer just completely destroyed the entire industry with one post hahahahaaaaaaa
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all that said and done, T really is man's best ally
man's energy of life is T
so, i would gladly be addicted to it
doesnt mean i can't have a full and rich life on it, quite on the contrary!
that and i don't care about how any other moron uses it, as long as i'm using it right and therein lies the key
Back in the day, I saw a public access show on cable television with a few bodybuilders on as guests, one of which was Dennis Tinerino. He talked about his years on steroids and feeling as though he was being held hostage by them. This one experience turned me off to gear and kept me from going to the Darkside. It would be one thing if you could take a few shots or pills and have the gains for life but unfortunately that isn’t the case.
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Consider you never see a a champion boxer come from a rich back ground. Growing up with nothing makes you tough. Kids from decent house holds try boxing then after getting hit several times realize it's not a sport but a fight. Same with many MMA guys.
Bodybuilding attracts a lot of insecure guys who need validation that they are a man. To achieve that means they will risk health taking drugs. Then they are walking around getting compliments from the clueless about their manliness. On cycle they are aggressive, confident and steroids work as an antidepressant as a feeling of well being becomes addictive. Once off cycle and months have passed then meekness, nervousness and feeling of depression sets in. Then the muscles leave and working out seems like a waste of time. To add insult any gym time has a negative mental effect because weights that were used every workout seem impossible to lift. The addiction to feel "right" again becomes an obsession. Soon like a heroin addict the craving overwhelms and soon they are at the gym at the trunk of a car of the local gym drug dealer buying their new cycle. After craving for a fix they rush home and fill their syringe and jab their ass. They pop a couple of pills and they know in the morning they are in the come back phase in the gym. In a short two weeks they can feel them self getting stronger, bigger and more confident. Muscle memory along with the chemical assist is working. In just two weeks they can see the change. In six weeks it will be drastic. Welcome to the monkey on your back.
They keep telling them self there is nothing to worry about. Your dealer only gets the legit stuff, right? No counterfeit contaminated testosterone derivatives from China. Who has the technology to fake labels and inserts, right? Now you cycle on and off for about a decade or more. No real career because your sole focus is chasing the syringe life style. Your friends now have houses, families and a career but hell you have muscles. Soon being the popular muscle guy in the club gets old. It becomes embarrassing picking up the 22 year old girl at her house when you're 36 meeting the parents. Your job bouncing, selling juice and the three clients you have personal training isn't a career path. Your aging parents are talking about down sizing and moving to Florida. I guess no more basement for free anymore. The thought of getting an apartment in a hell hole apartment complex fills your thoughts. Now if only you had any savings? Steroids, gas, insurance, clubbing, and life takes every penny. You think if I only learned a trade but at the time it would have interfered with contest prep for that third place engraved metal plate you hang so proudly next to your framed picture of yourself. Maybe you will get back with that divorced older mom. She had a house you could live in. Welcome to bodybuilding.
Amazing post. Nailed it.
That would have been me completely had it not been for Special Ed
waking me up.
I know so many like this. So many.
- Block!
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Haven't seen ^that^ name in forever...
I used to go to ur site all the time I THINK.
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Haven't seen ^that^ name in forever...
I used to go to ur site all the time I THINK.
Haha. Thanks.
It was fun while it lasted.
- Block!
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Consider you never see a a champion boxer come from a rich back ground. Growing up with nothing makes you tough. Kids from decent house holds try boxing then after getting hit several times realize it's not a sport but a fight. Same with many MMA guys.
Bodybuilding attracts a lot of insecure guys who need validation that they are a man. To achieve that means they will risk health taking drugs. Then they are walking around getting compliments from the clueless about their manliness. On cycle they are aggressive, confident and steroids work as an antidepressant as a feeling of well being becomes addictive. Once off cycle and months have passed then meekness, nervousness and feeling of depression sets in. Then the muscles leave and working out seems like a waste of time. To add insult any gym time has a negative mental effect because weights that were used every workout seem impossible to lift. The addiction to feel "right" again becomes an obsession. Soon like a heroin addict the craving overwhelms and soon they are at the gym at the trunk of a car of the local gym drug dealer buying their new cycle. After craving for a fix they rush home and fill their syringe and jab their ass. They pop a couple of pills and they know in the morning they are in the come back phase in the gym. In a short two weeks they can feel them self getting stronger, bigger and more confident. Muscle memory along with the chemical assist is working. In just two weeks they can see the change. In six weeks it will be drastic. Welcome to the monkey on your back.
They keep telling them self there is nothing to worry about. Your dealer only gets the legit stuff, right? No counterfeit contaminated testosterone derivatives from China. Who has the technology to fake labels and inserts, right? Now you cycle on and off for about a decade or more. No real career because your sole focus is chasing the syringe life style. Your friends now have houses, families and a career but hell you have muscles. Soon being the popular muscle guy in the club gets old. It becomes embarrassing picking up the 22 year old girl at her house when you're 36 meeting the parents. Your job bouncing, selling juice and the three clients you have personal training isn't a career path. Your aging parents are talking about down sizing and moving to Florida. I guess no more basement for free anymore. The thought of getting an apartment in a hell hole apartment complex fills your thoughts. Now if only you had any savings? Steroids, gas, insurance, clubbing, and life takes every penny. You think if I only learned a trade but at the time it would have interfered with contest prep for that third place engraved metal plate you hang so proudly next to your framed picture of yourself. Maybe you will get back with that divorced older mom. She had a house you could live in. Welcome to bodybuilding.
Great post! This also covers a lot of mma fighters as well. Knew a guy exactly like this who competed in kickboxing and mma and made a living as a bouncer. ::) Ended up getting thrown in prison for a bar fight where he killed someone and when he got out of the joint attempted in his 40's to build a normal life working which was the first time ever having a real job. Ended up dying as an alcoholic (cirrhosis) last year. Left behind a bunch of kids from several different women.
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I always told the story about a guy I knew who was a local amateur who turned down
a job with the Chicago Fire Dept because the Academy would interrupt his “gains” and
the start date of the Academy was in the middle of his prep for a local show.
He was in his mid-late 20’s then.
Last I heard from him he was working as in the housekeeping dept of a local hospital his
mom worked at.
Lost track of him after that.
- Block!
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It becomes embarrassing picking up the 22 year old girl at her house when you're 36 meeting the parents.
No shame in my game.
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I always told the story about a guy I knew who was a local amateur who turned down
a job with the Chicago Fire Dept because the Academy would interrupt his “gains” and
the start date of the Academy was in the middle of his prep for a local show.
He was in his mid-late 20’s then.
Last I heard from him he was working as in the housekeeping dept of a local hospital his
mom worked at.
Lost track of him after that.
- Block!
Dude went all in following his dream. No shame there.
Following his dream didnt make him a housekeeper, lack of motivation did.
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Great post! This also covers a lot of mma fighters as well. Knew a guy exactly like this who competed in kickboxing and mma and made a living as a bouncer. ::) Ended up getting thrown in prison for a bar fight where he killed someone and when he got out of the joint attempted in his 40's to build a normal life working which was the first time ever having a real job. Ended up dying as an alcoholic (cirrhosis) last year. Left behind a bunch of kids from several different women.
Have you watched GSP's DVD "Takedown"?
He says the same thing about MMA fighters.
Ron...last name escapes me...also died of liver problems in 2003. He was 45, and had been working at the Home Depot in his town. He went from local hero to that. Sad.
He was about 5'6 and 220. Benched 500 at 19, and was Mr.America in NABBA or won of the non-NPC organizations.
I should remember his name. But one of the Getbig freaks will. :)
Nice to see Block is back!
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Have you watched GSP's DVD "Takedown"?
He says the same thing about MMA fighters.
Ron...last name escapes me...also died of liver problems in 2003. He was 45, and had been working at the Home Depot in his town. He went from local hero to that. Sad.
He was about 5'6 and 220. Benched 500 at 19, and was Mr.America in NABBA or won of the non-NPC organizations.
I should remember his name. But one of the Getbig freaks will. :)
Nice to see Block is back!
Haven't seen it yet.
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Consider you never see a a champion boxer come from a rich back ground. Growing up with nothing makes you tough. Kids from decent house holds try boxing then after getting hit several times realize it's not a sport but a fight. Same with many MMA guys.
Bodybuilding attracts a lot of insecure guys who need validation that they are a man. To achieve that means they will risk health taking drugs. Then they are walking around getting compliments from the clueless about their manliness. On cycle they are aggressive, confident and steroids work as an antidepressant as a feeling of well being becomes addictive. Once off cycle and months have passed then meekness, nervousness and feeling of depression sets in. Then the muscles leave and working out seems like a waste of time. To add insult any gym time has a negative mental effect because weights that were used every workout seem impossible to lift. The addiction to feel "right" again becomes an obsession. Soon like a heroin addict the craving overwhelms and soon they are at the gym at the trunk of a car of the local gym drug dealer buying their new cycle. After craving for a fix they rush home and fill their syringe and jab their ass. They pop a couple of pills and they know in the morning they are in the come back phase in the gym. In a short two weeks they can feel them self getting stronger, bigger and more confident. Muscle memory along with the chemical assist is working. In just two weeks they can see the change. In six weeks it will be drastic. Welcome to the monkey on your back.
They keep telling them self there is nothing to worry about. Your dealer only gets the legit stuff, right? No counterfeit contaminated testosterone derivatives from China. Who has the technology to fake labels and inserts, right? Now you cycle on and off for about a decade or more. No real career because your sole focus is chasing the syringe life style. Your friends now have houses, families and a career but hell you have muscles. Soon being the popular muscle guy in the club gets old. It becomes embarrassing picking up the 22 year old girl at her house when you're 36 meeting the parents. Your job bouncing, selling juice and the three clients you have personal training isn't a career path. Your aging parents are talking about down sizing and moving to Florida. I guess no more basement for free anymore. The thought of getting an apartment in a hell hole apartment complex fills your thoughts. Now if only you had any savings? Steroids, gas, insurance, clubbing, and life takes every penny. You think if I only learned a trade but at the time it would have interfered with contest prep for that third place engraved metal plate you hang so proudly next to your framed picture of yourself. Maybe you will get back with that divorced older mom. She had a house you could live in. Welcome to bodybuilding.
Ouch! ;D
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Haven't seen it yet.
Worth watching! IMO.
GSP made the same points you did, but said he is able to fit in to normal society.
It makes sense that one would have to be OCD to reach that level of sport.
Also, the bodybuilder I was thinking of was Ron Teufel. His life took a sad trajectory, and he ultimately died due to his alcoholism. :(
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Indeed, there is a long established literature on the Mental Malaise of Muscledom.
Sigmund Freud, for example, noted this infirmity in his early work, Bitte Liebe Meinen Bizeps, Oh Bitte (Please Love My Biceps, Oh Please). Before publishing his now famous theory of the "Unconscious," Freud initially modeled his early structural theory of mind on the image of a contracted biceps, arguing that all the vital activity which screams, "Boom! Take a look at this hunk of man," has its origins within the mysterious depths of what he first called "The Sub-cutaneous" (das Unterkutan), i.e., the inner realm of feeling which seeks its expression in the outer world of behavior. The Sub-cutaneous is a hotbed of impulses that lie under the skin, as it were, which are fundamentally irrational and violent, often surfacing in the bellicose language of going to 'battle,' or to 'war' with the 'iron' or other imagined enemies – a kind of fantasy for those too weak to accept their natural and social inadequacies.
Erik Erikson, who was deeply influenced by Freud’s early work on the flexed or 'crooked' and 'bent' symbol of strength, picked up on these troubled delusions and identified eight crisis moments in human development, specifically classifying the beginnings of the bodybuilder in Stage 4: Industry v. Inferiority. Self-esteem has its origins at this stage insofar as human beings feel the need to win approval by demonstrating specific competencies that are valued by society. However, bodybuilding is not valued by society, but is in the main ridiculed as odd and extremely weird. Erikson showed how bodybuilders are individuals who failed to overcome this moment of crisis because they lack true self-esteem, often resorting to the company of other misfits to feel accepted, to be respected, to be taken seriously. Also noting the inherent violence of sub-cutaneous feelings, Erikson puzzled to answer why it is that the flexing and contracting of limbs is often accompanied by facial expressions of snarls, growls, and the baring of teeth. Is hitting a double-biceps, lat spread, or most muscular pose some kind of victorious combat over vanquished foes? Sadly, Erikson reasoned that bodybuilders, most especially mature ones with flat, blocky heads looking to do "damage" in their thongs, are stuck or "fixated" at this stage.
Ultimately, if all of these shortcomings obtain, what manifests is what C.J. Jung identified as a "Schmoeversion," typified by a schmoevert, in the passive sense, or, if active, as Dementia Burneikada, especially around swimming pools.
*SNIF* *SNIF*… Superb, sir!
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Indeed, there is a long established literature on the Mental Malaise of Muscledom.
Sigmund Freud, for example, noted this infirmity in his early work, Bitte Liebe Meinen Bizeps, Oh Bitte (Please Love My Biceps, Oh Please). Before publishing his now famous theory of the "Unconscious," Freud initially modeled his early structural theory of mind on the image of a contracted biceps, arguing that all the vital activity which screams, "Boom! Take a look at this hunk of man," has its origins within the mysterious depths of what he first called "The Sub-cutaneous" (das Unterkutan), i.e., the inner realm of feeling which seeks its expression in the outer world of behavior. The Sub-cutaneous is a hotbed of impulses that lie under the skin, as it were, which are fundamentally irrational and violent, often surfacing in the bellicose language of going to 'battle,' or to 'war' with the 'iron' or other imagined enemies – a kind of fantasy for those too weak to accept their natural and social inadequacies.
Erik Erikson, who was deeply influenced by Freud’s early work on the flexed or 'crooked' and 'bent' symbol of strength, picked up on these troubled delusions and identified eight crisis moments in human development, specifically classifying the beginnings of the bodybuilder in Stage 4: Industry v. Inferiority. Self-esteem has its origins at this stage insofar as human beings feel the need to win approval by demonstrating specific competencies that are valued by society. However, bodybuilding is not valued by society, but is in the main ridiculed as odd and extremely weird. Erikson showed how bodybuilders are individuals who failed to overcome this moment of crisis because they lack true self-esteem, often resorting to the company of other misfits to feel accepted, to be respected, to be taken seriously. Also noting the inherent violence of sub-cutaneous feelings, Erikson puzzled to answer why it is that the flexing and contracting of limbs is often accompanied by facial expressions of snarls, growls, and the baring of teeth. Is hitting a double-biceps, lat spread, or most muscular pose some kind of victorious combat over vanquished foes? Sadly, Erikson reasoned that bodybuilders, most especially mature ones with flat, blocky heads looking to do "damage" in their thongs, are stuck or "fixated" at this stage.
Ultimately, if all of these shortcomings obtain, what manifests is what C.J. Jung identified as a "Schmoeversion," typified by a schmoevert, in the passive sense, or, if active, as Dementia Burneikada, especially around swimming pools.
Flat blocky heads?? Huh? Lol?
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This is easily one of getbig's best threads in a long time. Good Lord, oldtimer just completely destroyed the entire industry with one post hahahahaaaaaaa
he has been posting that for at least 10 years now, you guys just noticed?
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Amazing post. Nailed it.
That would have been me completely had it not been for Special Ed
waking me up.
I know so many like this. So many.
- Block!
where is ed now? what about gordiano?
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Worth watching! IMO.
GSP made the same points you did, but said he is able to fit in to normal society.
It makes sense that one would have to be OCD to reach that level of sport.
Also, the bodybuilder I was thinking of was Ron Teufel. His life took a sad trajectory, and he ultimately died due to his alcoholism. :(
Super successful people including athletes are not balanced. Did you ever go to school with a state champion wrestler? These people are totally consumed by one thing.