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Andy Ruiz Jr set to be named as Anthony Joshua opponent for New York bout
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Another Joshua fight I wont be watching. I hope you guys stop watching any of his and Wilders fights until they fight each other.
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They have to invent tin cans to prolong a real fight in this division. SAD
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Ruiz looks like a lard ass, but he’s got good skills, can punch with both hands and has good speed and stamina. His problem is he gets hit and against Joshua that spells trouble.
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he should do well.
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If Sonny Bono could see that, I wonder what he would say? :o ??? ::) :'(
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Daniel Dubois apparently Ko'd AJ in sparring a year or so back
Fury sparred with dubois and predicted DD will be a future champ
AJ needs to man up and stop ducking WIlder
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This guy is a decent fighter better than Jarrell Miller. Not Wilder or Fury but hes at least top 6 fighters skill wise at heavy.
yes he is he’s got heart throws lots of punches and can take punches he’s definitely imo a better fighter than Miller thing is he’s reasonably easy too hit how that translates with the 6ft 7 Joshua landing on him isn’t good news for Ruiz, but hey make no mistake about it...he will come too fight and fight hard no matter what happens.
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Ruiz is a good body puncher like Whyte, also throws quick hooks with both hands. Haven't seen him in a while, don't remember if he fights from a high guard like Baby Miller. Anyway...Joshua stops him mid rounds like Povetkin. $5 mil step-in payday like Takem got. That's not bad.
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baby miller needed to get a proper ped guru like aceto, camel crew or coach on board.
he lost 5 million because he probably relied on his gym dealer.
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Heavy weight division is just sad now. These guys are just journey men today. Just club fighters.
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he should do well.
What the fuck has he had his saggy man tits surgically removed?
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She he had it's female tits removed only to grow man boobs. ::)
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Ruiz for the upset !!
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What the fuck has he had his saggy man tits surgically removed?
That's Cher and Sonny Bono's daughter. Her name was Chastity. :)
Had a sex change. ??? ::) :o
It is now named Chaz. :P :-[
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Ruiz is actually a pretty decent fighter. Can't judge a fighter by his physique. Look at Cormier...
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Ruiz is actually a pretty decent fighter. Can't judge a fighter by his physique. Look at Cormier...
well that’s correct the thing is usually as a rule of thumb if someone has spent more time in the gym lifting weights that’s just extra weight you have too carry that as the rounds go bye those “extra” muscles can feel like your trying too hold up sand bags, the theory rings true...fighters FIGHT, the majority of your training should be in the boxing gym not the Weight gym.
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For the morons out there muscle has nothing to do with punching power, throwing/pitching strength. Its more about biomechanics.
Nonsense, the bigger your chest and biceps, the harder your punch and the better fighter you are overall.
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Nonsense, the bigger your chest and biceps, the harder your punch and the better fighter you are overall.
Large pecs actually impede your punching power and this is why boxers rarely build up their chests compared to their lats and delts. Big biceps make it very hard to keep the hands up as the rounds stack up and are therefore also a disadvantage. Haven't gone back and read your previous posts on this topic so forgive me if this was a joke. ;D
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Bumping this for Saturday's fight.
I think the weigh in is Thursday.
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Ruiz is very fast despite his looks.
I`ll take him for the upset.
Tired of Joshua and Wilder fighting bums and ducking each other.
If Ruiz wins,maybe he`ll be good for boxing and make great fights happen.
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Agreed.
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ruiz is too fat and headhunts
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Joshua within 8, Ruiz has heart throws a lot of punches in bunches and isn’t afraid too take one...too land one...and that will be the problem imo he will end up taking to many, I don’t see a quick fight...1....because Joshua will be cautious (he has everything too lose) he will take his time finding his range and 2....unlike Breazale Ruiz will actually show up too fight.
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Here is the weigh in.
Direct link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDrEILdV228 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDrEILdV228)
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God, Ruiz is a fat pig. :o
268 lbs.
You'd think the guy would try to get in shape for the opportunity of a lifetime. ::)
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That link is virus infected. My virus protection bells and whistles went off.
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It's a YouTube link. I doubt it has a virus.
I just checked it again. Nothing there.
A couple of pictures from the weigh in.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2sbkhp0.jpg)
(http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4tjc.jpg)
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Bump.
GetBiggers, we are going to need some working links soon.
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Anyone got links to this?
It has started.
Undercards have begun.
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It`ll cost you $19.99 for a month.
https://www.dazn.com/en-US/sport/Sport:2x2oqzx60orpoeugkd754ga1 7/5qkqiui7sne073b23rhx6tsl3/1dhaeo9x5p5261ld3vm8dnlnlv
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Nah.
Looking for it at my favorite price...
FREE.
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I hear ya` bud,but I found nothing.
Good luck!!
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Anybody got anything?
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http://www.stream2watch.se/live/anthony-joshua-vs-andy-ruiz-jr?sid=210986
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sub par ring girls
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Thanks, Zillotch.
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RUIZ WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111 111111
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lol... dang
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Ruiz dropped Joshua twice in the third round after being dropped himself.
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Killed Joshua....he had no fucking clue as to where he was!
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Joshua quits.
Fucking incredible fight.
Ruiz is the champ.
It's true.
Joshua was a fucking fraud.
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Down four times.
Four.
WOW.
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o
That fat sob pulled it off. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wilder is LOLOLOLOLOL hard!
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AJ was in a total daze and looked drunk.
Ruiz shocking the fucking world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111 111111111111111111111111 111111
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Joshua bubble popped
He’s been found out - was going to Happen
For as bad as Wilder is Joshua was Running from him
He Knew he’d of been Sparked out Very Quickly.
No surprise he struggled to beat a 40yr old klitscko who hadn’t fought in 18mnths.
Great Win For Ruiz.
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Joshua quits.
Fucking incredible fight.
Ruiz is the champ.
It's true.
Joshua was a fucking fraud.
He didn't quit ,the ref fucked up ,BTW AJ is slow and overrated
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Joshua is done. He mentally doesnt have the hunger anymore.
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Imagine Mike Tyson in his prime against these Heavyweights. :-X
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He didn't quit ,the ref fucked up
Bullshit.
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Ray Leonard looks and sounds retarded. :D
I always hated that fucker. >:(
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Bullshit.
The ref asked him ,are you ready to fight ? Joshua said YES ,and he stopped the fight.
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Imagine Mike Tyson in his prime against these Heavyweights. :-X
He would have crushed these tomato cans!!
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Wilder would crush his soul. I still can't wait for that to happen. I've said it from the beginning.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-sends-scathing-message-16241670?fbclid=IwAR2N7fRHffSerpA9AkrtUvYfzmUAxk5xWrAJTQaJ92gYJ7LqvEhFOvMMTRo
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He would have crushed these tomato cans!!
Under 6
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Under 6
You know it brother.
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The ref asked him ,are you ready to fight ? Joshua said YES ,and he stopped the fight.
Joshua was done after he went down for the second time in the round. He didn't show any interest that he wanted to really go on.
Joshua may have responded but his body language was saying no more. He walked away from the referee after the standing eight count and drifted over to his corner.
He might have been trying to buy some more time to recover, but the referee was done with the nonsense.
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He didn't quit ,the ref fucked up ,BTW AJ is slow and overrated
He didn’t protest - he spat his gum shield out & walked away
Hardly an indication he wanted to continue - he’d had enough.
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He didn’t protest - he spat his gum shield out & walked away
Hardly an indication he wanted to continue - he’d had enough.
Exactly.
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Wilder would crush his soul. I still can't wait for that to happen. I've said it from the beginning.
It doesn't matter now.
Ruiz just took his soul.
He'll never be the same.
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Exactly.
Ref did the right thing
Had he let Joshua continue he’d of got more unnecessary head shots & punishment
Just to be floored / Badly Knocked Out.
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It doesn't matter now.
Ruiz just took his soul.
He'll never be the same.
You could be right - He was 1st exposed by Dillian when they fought
Only Dillian Gassed
He didn’t look good against Klitscko - 40yr old out the Ring for 18mnths.
Let’s see How or if he comes Back.
Deontay / Fury / Whyte will all be after Him & Fired up after seeing this Tonight.
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Isn't it amazing how two men's lives just changed completely on a dime?
I hope Ruiz doesn't take the full Buster Douglas path.
He lost his very next fight to Holyfield.
Evander dropped him in the third. Lights out.
Ruiz is as tough as anybody in the division.
I hope he will take it seriously.
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Isn't it amazing how two men's lives just changed completely on a dime?
I hope Ruiz doesn't take the full Buster Douglas path.
He lost his very next fight to Holyfield.
Evander dropped him in the third. Lights out.
Ruiz is as tough as anybody in the division.
I hope he will take it seriously.
I hope so - Scored A Great Win tonight
Hopefully he will build on this & continue forward
Though Deontays power & Fury’s size style could be Problems for Him.
Personally IF Fury’s Head is Right I can see him getting all the Belts.
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Well....I was wrong. ;D
Then again, still exposes the weakness in the division. Joshua has the body but not the heart. Hype job.
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I for one think that Ruiz will stay hungry and hopefully make some future great fight.
Great fights in most of the divisions is what has been sorely lacking in todays boxing.
The best fighting the best is what the fans want and I don`t see Ruiz ducking anyone because he`s hungry.
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Well....I was wrong. ;D
Then again, still exposes the weakness in the division. Joshua has the body but not the heart. Hype job.
Lennox Lewis got upset
Mike Tyson got upset
Fury beat Wilder on rigged cards
Joshua/Ruiz have a rematch.
Things happen in the HW Division
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lol. Ruiz has the body that all women desire and all men want. :D
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I guess big muscles don't equal fighting success.
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Well....I said Ruiz would come too fight no matter what and he did...but like most didn’t see him winning
You know it’s always interesting too see everyone’s reaction after someone lose for the first time.
BEFORE Tyson lost too Douglas most people were on the Tyson bandwagon...as soon as he lost...the same experts immediately proclaimed Mike Tyson was “overrated” forgetting everything he’d done BEFORE then...that’s human nature...it’s fickle and predictable.
Joshua is a good fighter but he’s like ANYONE...you can get caught @ anytime and he got caught, Ruiz fought like he always does hard and fast and doesn’t take a backward step and takes a hell of a punch deserves his moment.
Before people jump off the bandwagon that’s been currently Joshua...let’s see how he responds too getting beaten...then we might actually see what he’s made of instead of assuming he’s “done” @ 29-30 years old.
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Lennox Lewis got upset
Mike Tyson got upset
Fury beat Wilder on rigged cards
Joshua/Ruiz have a rematch.
Things happen in the HW Division
exactly.
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Roid boy quits in his corner....There's a hole in his chest where his heart should be...
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It's a YouTube link. I doubt it has a virus.
I just checked it again. Nothing there.
A couple of pictures from the weigh in.
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2sbkhp0.jpg)
(http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4tjc.jpg)
My boy is sucking in on that bottom pic.
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Ruiz has the Thor, Avengers Endgame body. All ale and spuds. But that dude has some hands and a chin of steel. He's a great boxer and that cannot be denied. Congrats champ.
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Dam blackdude was cuckholded :-\ :o :-X
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Well....I said Ruiz would come too fight no matter what and he did...but like most didn’t see him winning
You know it’s always interesting too see everyone’s reaction after someone lose for the first time.
BEFORE Tyson lost too Douglas most people were on the Tyson bandwagon...as soon as he lost...the same experts immediately proclaimed Mike Tyson was “overrated” forgetting everything he’d done BEFORE then...that’s human nature...it’s fickle and predictable.
Joshua is a good fighter but he’s like ANYONE...you can get caught @ anytime and he got caught, Ruiz fought like he always does hard and fast and doesn’t take a backward step and takes a hell of a punch deserves his moment.
Before people jump off the bandwagon that’s been currently Joshua...let’s see how he responds too getting beaten...then we might actually see what he’s made of instead of assuming he’s “done” @ 29-30 years old.
Got Caught !!!! ::)
Yes Got Caught 4 Times & walked away.
Let’s see how he handles the defeat & comes back
He’s Going to have to Face Wilder / Fury / Whyte Now if he’s to Prove Himself.
No he’s not written off - yet — Though he’s got a tough road back.
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Ortiz will beat Wilder in the rematch , you heard it here first .
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Heavyweight division is a joke. Wilder and Tyson Fury are the only fights I will even watch.
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Ruiz is very fast despite his looks.
I`ll take him for the upset.
Tired of Joshua and Wilder fighting bums and ducking each other.
If Ruiz wins,maybe he`ll be good for boxing and make great fights happen.
He out boxed him with a clear disadvantage on paper. Had more grit. And had more determination. INCREDIBLE fight. Congrats Ruiz!
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Ortiz will beat Wilder in the rematch , you heard it here first .
Ortiz looked old and haggard his last 2 fights. It's nothing more than Stiverne 2.0. Wilder will get him out in under 5 this time. What you should be talking about is, Haymon and Finkle fucking Ortiz over for 7 mil at the end of his career, given he is clearly in his mid-40s. He has a sick daughter and is being sold out for pennies to raise Wilder's profile.
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Ruiz is very fast despite his looks.
I`ll take him for the upset.
Tired of Joshua and Wilder fighting bums and ducking each other.
If Ruiz wins,maybe he`ll be good for boxing and make great fights happen.
Good prediction!
I had never watched Ruiz fight before, but I must say I am impressed! Dude took a monster shot and got off the canvas and came back swinging like a guy!
I'm definitely a Ruiz fan after watching this!
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AJ didn't seem to recover from the first knockdown. By the sixth round, it looked like he just wanted it to be over. He can come back but has a lot of work to do, he's far too stiff and clumsy right now.
Fury is the best HW right now.
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AJ didn't seem to recover from the first knockdown. By the sixth round, it looked like he just wanted it to be over. He can come back but has a lot of work to do, he's far too stiff and clumsy right now.
Fury is the best HW right now.
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Yeah, you can see he was out of it. It probably got stopped early, but it was only a matter of time. The bloom is off the rose, he's probably got one more big fight to prove himself before the interest is mostly gone.
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Ruiz moves like tyson, not the same torque as tyson but ruiz doesnt leave himself open..
Joshua looked juiced n stiff. Muscles too round and full not an ounce of fat yet ruiz look much faster
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who ever bet on ruiz good for them it was the upset of the year
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His father didn't like the fight, thought it was a bad match up stylistically after he replaced Jarrell Miller, looks like Joshua thought being a late replacement that he thought he just had to turn up and win. He really didn't show any courage and panicked as soon as he was hurt, he simply did not know what to do, his legs were gone and he was gased.
Full credit to Ruiz.
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A sport that once showcased Ali, Frazier, Norton, Shavers, Foreman, etc. has come to this. Unreal.
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A sport that once showcased Ali, Frazier, Norton, Shavers, Foreman, etc. has come to this. Unreal.
yup I’d add Homles, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe, from the 80s-90s for edge of your seat fighters
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yup I’d add Homles, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Bowe, from the 80s-90s for edge of your seat fighters
Even middleweights like Hagler could beat the shit out of these two slobs.
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His father didn't like the fight, thought it was a bad match up stylistically after he replaced Jarrell Miller, looks like Joshua thought being a late replacement that he thought he just had to turn up and win.
He really didn't show any courage and panicked as soon as he was hurt, he simply did not know what to do, his legs were gone and he was gased.
Full credit to Ruiz.
I don’t know about the 1st part
Your Spot on in the 2nd part
The worrying bit for the Future is Showing No Courage & Looking Like He Wanted it Stopped
Others Will have Noted & Exploit That - He Can’t Build / Train Courage.
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I don’t know about the 1st part
Your Spot on in the 2nd part
The worrying bit for the Future is Showing No Courage & Looking Like He Wanted it Stopped
Others Will have Noted & Exploit That - He Can’t Build / Train Courage.
your correct you can not build or train courage, just my view anyone and everyone can have a bad night fighting wether your @ local/National Level or His level.
Joshua has shown that courage before when needed nearly being stopped bye Another very good fighter in dallion Whyte he came back and knocked him out, he showed it getting off the canvas with Klitschko coming back and knocking him out, He showed it when getting his nose broken against a decent poventkin came back and knocked him out.
Granted he was dominated bye Ruiz the uppercut hook combination he landed flush on Ruiz witch knocked him down would of probably kept most top heavyweights on the canvas after that he got hammered but I wouldn’t be so quick too write him off just yet his rematch against Ruiz will answer a lot more questions in regards too his courage and heart imo
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Yeah, you can see he was out of it. It probably got stopped early, but it was only a matter of time. The bloom is off the rose, he's probably got one more big fight to prove himself before the interest is mostly gone.
Good video. Joshua will win the rematch creating a third fight. Lots of $$$$$$$ to be made by all.
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A sport that once showcased Ali, Frazier, Norton, Shavers, Foreman, etc. has come to this. Unreal.
Quoted for truth. The heavy weight division is a joke.
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your correct you can not build or train courage, just my view anyone and everyone can have a bad night fighting wether your @ local/National Level or His level.
Joshua has shown that courage before when needed nearly being stopped bye Another very good fighter in dallion Whyte he came back and knocked him out, he showed it getting off the canvas with Klitschko coming back and knocking him out, He showed it when getting his nose broken against a decent poventkin came back and knocked him out.
Granted he was dominated bye Ruiz the uppercut hook combination he landed flush on Ruiz witch knocked him down would of probably kept most top heavyweights on the canvas after that he got hammered but I wouldn’t be so quick too write him off just yet his rematch against Ruiz will answer a lot more questions in regards too his courage and heart imo
Dillian gassed and got KO’ed
Kiltschko was 40 & hadn’t fought in 18mnths
He did fairly well against povetkin
So Where did his Courage go Saturday night ??
He Very Clearly didn’t want to Continue.
I’ve not written him off - only he’s now got to stop ducking people & Fight Fury / Wilder Etc.
Of Course he can comeback.
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Ruiz moves like tyson, not the same torque as tyson but ruiz doesnt leave himself open..
Jerry Quarry?
I don't like to compare,cause Ruiz doesn't thave Quarry's condition and consequently his fast footwork and workrate.
But they are both shorter heavyweights and counterpuncher ,with tremendous body attacks.
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Ruiz didn't gas, so say what you want about him looks-wise but this was not a 2 round fight. I would say his biggest mistake would be trying to look like a model between now and the rematch. Just train to fight.
When you see guys like Ruiz and Fury you get just a hint that maybe(only maybe) there are some non-PED fighters. These guys that look like Kevin Randleman clones in there could use a few beatings to even up the odds, haha.
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I'm familiar with the Quarry family and the two better boxers from that family Jerry & Mike. Mike was a very good light-heavy. Their gym sparring sessions together were brutal, been told. A bit before my time to witness live, but had contact with their family members growing up and some old film clips.
Jerry would be an outstanding cruiser (200lb limit) weight today. Mike was a true light-heavy weight. Jerry fought the best of his era..never backing down for anything. Maybe too tough for his own good...taking a bit too much to give in return. Just didn't have the frame or height size (don't know for sure but been told around 5'10-5'11) with regards to today's heavy and super weights. If you judged his courage, it would be off the charts.
Jerry had to have health care 24/7 and was living somewhere around Hemet,Ca. His mental state was pretty bad, as was his physical state. Mike also have physical and mental troubles and died a few years before Jerry.
Ruiz jr, a tough and smart boxer, taking his time and picking his spots. And with quick hands. After the third round, Joshua seemed to have lost his purpose of being there. If rematch, thinking Joshua in 12 or sooner. Ruiz jr said he's going to slim down and look like a boxer. Which might be a mistake on his part. Lot of boxers will dothat, and never be the boxer they once were...just have to see.
Watched on DAZN...$100 a year. If changing your address with VPN, can watch other sports around the world
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To me Joshua is a wladimir Klitschko 2.0. A physical specimen but a clod, with a questionable chin, suspect heart and stamina. Joshua is a little more coordinated and athletic but Klitschko seemingly had more desire. It was disappointing how easily Joshua lost his confidence during the fight. Ruiz will be tough for anyone and may even win the rematch with AJ but I'd favor Wilder to win against Ruiz
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We will see if Joshua is done in the rematch, first point of retirement is always hesitation, seen it with De L:a Hoya, seen it Tszyu, they just hesitate rather than throw, whether its a worry of another loss and losing their legacy or value or just plain getting knocked out, it seems to be the first sign that they are declining, If Joshua doesn't let his hands go, he's done.
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To me Joshua is a wladimir Klitschko 2.0. A physical specimen but a clod, with a questionable chin, suspect heart and stamina. Joshua is a little more coordinated and athletic but Klitschko seemingly had more desire. It was disappointing how easily Joshua lost his confidence during the fight. Ruiz will be tough for anyone and may even win the rematch with AJ but I'd favor Wilder to win against Ruiz
And Lennox got clipped by 2 journeymen early in his career. From what I get, he was sparring the final week of the fight and got knocked out, and his dad wanted the event canceled. We'll find out at a later date. That being said, people act like Ruiz is the best fighter on AJ's resume in 23 fights. AJ smokes Ruiz in Wales in Nov. Hence, AJ is more like Lennox 2.0 when it comes to rematches.
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We will see if Joshua is done in the rematch, first point of retirement is always hesitation, seen it with De L:a Hoya, seen it Tszyu, they just hesitate rather than throw, whether its a worry of another loss and losing their legacy or value or just plain getting knocked out, it seems to be the first sign that they are declining, If Joshua doesn't let his hands go, he's done.
i hear what your saying the difference is in my view those tell tale shows your alluring too are a common sign of too many wars and more too the point age nether Tszyu or De la Hoya were 28-29 years old when they started hesitating that was the passage of time age factor for them.
The interesting thing no one here has mentioned on is that when you get hit in a specific way SOMETIMES you don’t get yr legs back or your mindset and instincts alone keeps you going, unless you have actually been in some type of combat/Martal Arts/Boxing etc people wouldn’t know what I’m on about.
I was in that type of position way back in the early 1990s I got hit with a spinning head kick too the side of the head and dropped got back up held on literally for another 2 rounds until fight was stopped afterwards people said I’d “Quit” I didn’t Quit because if I’d had that mindset I would of STAYED down after the FIRST knockdown...that was @ National level, Joshua is in a totally different level BUT the rule still apply in my opinion.
If he wanted too “Quit” he would of just stayed down after the 1st or 2nd knockdown...he didn’t he kept going and kept getting up, this shit happens in ANY type of fighting sport SOMETIMES you don’t recover and you carry on on instinct alone until ether you get completely knocked out or the Ref has seen enough Some people recover quickly from being dropped...Some don’t it’s that simple.
I’ll hold my view on Joshua he’s a good fighter but how good that will reveal itself bye the years end that’s the fight game is that sooner or later your going too be tested bye defeat here’s his chance too show what he’s got now that the bubbles been cracked.
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If aj wants to beat ruiz he is going to have to brawl ruiz with only head shots. Im talking non stop head hunting combos falcon shit non of this outside fighting pussy mayweather shit..i dont know if aj can bang he looks puffed up like phil heath , aj might lock up like dillet if he tries to brawl. If aj doesnt do as i say then ruiz will in time work his way on the inside and deliver gut busting body shots that no one can take except if your a true freak like ive seen some russians take kicks to the stomach
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i hear what your saying the difference is in my view those tell tale shows your alluring too are a common sign of too many wars and more too the point age nether Tszyu or De la Hoya were 28-29 years old when they started hesitating that was the passage of time age factor for them.
The interesting thing no one here has mentioned on is that when you get hit in a specific way SOMETIMES you don’t get yr legs back or your mindset and instincts alone keeps you going, unless you have actually been in some type of combat/Martal Arts/Boxing etc people wouldn’t know what I’m on about.
I was in that type of position way back in the early 1990s I got hit with a spinning head kick too the side of the head and dropped got back up held on literally for another 2 rounds until fight was stopped afterwards people said I’d “Quit” I didn’t Quit because if I’d had that mindset I would of STAYED down after the FIRST knockdown...that was @ National level, Joshua is in a totally different level BUT the rule still apply in my opinion.
If he wanted too “Quit” he would of just stayed down after the 1st or 2nd knockdown...he didn’t he kept going and kept getting up, this shit happens in ANY type of fighting sport SOMETIMES you don’t recover and you carry on on instinct alone until ether you get completely knocked out or the Ref has seen enough Some people recover quickly from being dropped...Some don’t it’s that simple.
I’ll hold my view on Joshua he’s a good fighter but how good that will reveal itself bye the years end that’s the fight game is that sooner or later your going too be tested bye defeat here’s his chance too show what he’s got now that the bubbles been cracked.
This guy knows what he's talking about .
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If aj wants to beat ruiz he is going to have to brawl ruiz with only head shots. Im talking non stop head hunting combos falcon shit non of this outside fighting pussy mayweather shit..i dont know if aj can bang he looks puffed up like phil heath , aj might lock up like dillet if he tries to brawl. If aj doesnt do as i say then ruiz will in time work his way on the inside and deliver gut busting body shots that no one can take except if your a true freak like ive seen some russians take kicks to the stomach
Yeah, if only he can get as good as you he will smash Ruiz in November.
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I had a dream, Joshua smashed Ruiz in rematch
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Joshua needs a heart transplant....
There's another obese fighter from NYC who looks pretty good, a Polack who fights like Ruiz. Fast hands,throws combos,good power, decent defense. THAT would be a good fight.
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I think Joshua might take it in the rematch against Ruiz. It all depends on where his heart is. If he isn't driven by the sport anymore, he''ll just clock in for a payday and lose again. If he gets back to his roots and comes in hungry again, Ruiz will have only held the belt for a few months.
In the grand scheme, I think this has become a contention of who is the true P4P king between 4 fighters (Joshua, Fury, Wilder and Ruiz), but if I had to pick one that I think would outbox them all, Fury would be my pick.
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I think Joshua might take it in the rematch against Ruiz. It all depends on where his heart is. If he isn't driven by the sport anymore, he''ll just clock in for a payday and lose again. If he gets back to his roots and comes in hungry again, Ruiz will have only held the belt for a few months.
In the grand scheme, I think this has become a contention of who is the true P4P king between 4 fighters (Joshua, Fury, Wilder and Ruiz), but if I had to pick one that I think would outbox them all, Fury would be my pick.
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I made a post that AJ would get beat by someone other than Wilder or Fury, will stick with that. The AJ that rises from this will be Lennox/Vlad 2.0.
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Ruiz needs to come in better physical shape in the rematch, 10-15 pounds lighter would help greatly. If AJ comes mentally prepared, I think he wins. Ruiz can't rely on taking the same approach in the rematch as he did in the first fight.
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Ruiz needs to come in better physical shape in the rematch, 10-15 pounds lighter would help greatly. If AJ comes mentally prepared, I think he wins. Ruiz can't rely on taking the same approach in the rematch as he did in the first fight.
Why does he need to lose weight? He didn't appear to be gassed at all in that fight and the weight gives him more power.
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Why does he need to lose weight? He didn't appear to be gassed at all in that fight and the weight gives him more power.
He's carrying way too much body fat. If AJ is smart, he will go to the body more in the rematch instead of head hunting. Start going to the body more effectively and Ruiz's stamina takes a big hit.
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He's carrying way too much body fat. If AJ is smart, he will go to the body more in the rematch instead of head hunting. Start going to the body more effectively and Ruiz's stamina takes a big hit.
The fat probably protects his body. Watch Joe Rogan's podcast about the fight.
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He's carrying way too much body fat. If AJ is smart, he will go to the body more in the rematch instead of head hunting. Start going to the body more effectively and Ruiz's stamina takes a big hit.
In boxing it doesn’t work like that if AJ goes too the body it will leave him MORE open too the left hook as it was he left himself open with the straight right hand because of Ruiz fast hands and counter punching if Ruiz was fast enough countering a right hand he will have absolutely no trouble countering AJ shooting body shots.
Most people can not carry that type of weight the difference is Ruiz has fought his whole boxing career carry that type of bodyweight, he did a very very smart thing in regards too his opportunity 6 weeks ago he was presented...not panic drop weight drastically and Weaken himself just so he could “look good” for his big moment.
This is fighting not a how you look show Ruiz is obviously smart enough too understand that you fight @ a weight your 100% comfortable with hes gone the distance several times as a pro and MANY MORE times as a amateur he has consistently shown his weight can take him 12 hard rounds if need be.
As a general rule don’t fix something that isn’t broken, that weight he carry’s will catch up with him when he hits 33-35 years old as your timing, reflex’s, countering ability starts too wane bit bye bit couple that with wear n tear a lot of wars under your belt, age etc
For the time being he can get away with his weight but time catches up with everybody that fights and that weight for him down the line will be a issue @ the present it’s perfect for him
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He only had a few weeks to prepare for the fight.
I expect he will be in better shape.
But you can have a bodybuilder's body and a chin like tin.
Joshua has one.
He brings back memories of Frank Bruno.
I remember Jim Lampley's quote describing ole Frank before his first beating from Mike Tyson:
"With the body of a Greek god, and the chin of a Poet Laureate."
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AJ has had a pretty good run up til last Saturday. His resume' is very strong.
Wins over Klitchko, Povetkin, Parker, White and Takam.
That's a better resume' than either Wilder or Fury.
I'll reserve judgement until after the rematch.
He looked flat from before the 1st bell. Very lethargic, almost had "heavy" legs.
If he isn't mentally broken, he should be able to exact revenge in the rematch. His physical gifts are immeasurable.
That being said, Andy Ruiz was always a better opponent than Big Baby Miller. Andy Ruiz looks like Two Ton Tony Galento but
he has been doing this shit since he was 8. He was an Olympian. This guy has fast hands, ring generalship, stamina, heart and
incredible heart/fighting spirit.
I'm very much looking forward to the rematch.
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Boxing styles make fights
AJ’s couldn’t cope with Andy’s
Look how Ali Had Tough Fights against Both Norton & Frazier
Yet Foreman Beat Both of Them Very Easy
Yet He Couldn’t Deal With Ali.
The rematch should be interesting,
Are either of them fighting anyone else before then
As that could change / show a lot.
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He only had a few weeks to prepare for the fight.
I expect he will be in better shape.
But you can have a bodybuilder's body and a chin like tin.
Joshua has one.
He brings back memories of Frank Bruno.
I remember Jim Lampley's quote describing ole Frank before his first beating from Mike Tyson:
"With the body of a Greek god, and the chin of a Poet Laureate."
LOL, he was hit in an exchange long the side of head, more of temple shot. Here is how guys response to temple shots and recover:
https://youtu.be/8xfBb0U8oHs?t=216 (https://youtu.be/8xfBb0U8oHs?t=216)
it starts with the right that grazed the temple
https://youtu.be/tE_V5UmyvhU?t=92 (https://youtu.be/tE_V5UmyvhU?t=92)
why does his dad go after hearn? is a knockout 1 week before the fight true? people don't know that dawson had been knocked out in sparring right before the ward fight.
anyway, aj chased parker for 12 rounds at a heavier weight but has shannon briggs 2 round stamina vs ruiz. it doesn't add up.
i look for to hearng aj's dad's side of the story in the future.
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LOL, he was hit in an exchange long the side of head, more of temple shot. Here is how guys response to temple shots and recover:
https://youtu.be/8xfBb0U8oHs?t=216 (https://youtu.be/8xfBb0U8oHs?t=216)
it starts with the right that grazed the temple
https://youtu.be/tE_V5UmyvhU?t=92 (https://youtu.be/tE_V5UmyvhU?t=92)
why does his dad go after hearn? is a knockout 1 week before the fight true? people don't know that dawson had been knocked out in sparring right before the ward fight.
anyway, aj chased parker for 12 rounds at a heavier weight but has shannon briggs 2 round stamina vs ruiz. it doesn't add up.
i look for to hearng aj's dad's side of the story in the future.
You are right, it wasn't AJ's chin so much as his temple.
An example I always use is Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson vs Razor Ruddock.
Prime Tyson was a big puncher as was Lennox Lewis. Ruddock stood up for 20 rounds vs Tyson. Got his chin checked repeatedly and got up from all his knockdowns. Against Lewis? Lewis shots landed higher on Ruddocks head and he was flattened within 2 rounds.
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AJ has had a pretty good run up til last Saturday. His resume' is very strong.
Wins over Klitchko, Povetkin, Parker, White and Takam.
That's a better resume' than either Wilder or Fury.
I'll reserve judgement until after the rematch.
He looked flat from before the 1st bell. Very lethargic, almost had "heavy" legs.
If he isn't mentally broken, he should be able to exact revenge in the rematch. His physical gifts are immeasurable.
That being said, Andy Ruiz was always a better opponent than Big Baby Miller. Andy Ruiz looks like Two Ton Tony Galento but
he has been doing this shit since he was 8. He was an Olympian. This guy has fast hands, ring generalship, stamina, heart and
incredible heart/fighting spirit.
I'm very much looking forward to the rematch.
lol if memory serves correctly Tony Galento or “2 ton” looked a lot like Ruiz and managed too knock the Great Joe Louis down way back in the 1930s/40s before Louis ended up taking him apart.
Ruiz has got that grounding a lot of the Pros nowadays haven’t got and that’s a extensive Amateur career over 100 fights BEFORE he even turned Pro so that obviously has held him in good stead having already encountered all shapes, sizes, styles before turning pro.
As illuminati has correctly referred too STYLES makes fights Ruiz might be such that Joshua can not figure out...we will know soon enough the rematch could be 50-50 ether way depending on how Joshua approaches it, if he turns up with the same laid back demeaner and attitude if could be another bad night for him in all seriousness I know he’s a humble want too be everybody’s friend type but Jesus...
I don’t think there’s EVER been a heavyweight champion in HISTORY that’s willingly let a challenger parade around with his championship belts a day or so BEFORE the fight, laughing, joking around taking selfies with his opponent ??? ??? ??? I wonder how he feels about all that now.
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1st punch that started the rot for Aj was a Left hook counter right on the chin in the 3rd round (as he was trying to finish Ruiz)
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In boxing it doesn’t work like that if AJ goes too the body it will leave him MORE open too the left hook as it was he left himself open with the straight right hand because of Ruiz fast hands and counter punching if Ruiz was fast enough countering a right hand he will have absolutely no trouble countering AJ shooting body shots.
Most people can not carry that type of weight the difference is Ruiz has fought his whole boxing career carry that type of bodyweight, he did a very very smart thing in regards too his opportunity 6 weeks ago he was presented...not panic drop weight drastically and Weaken himself just so he could “look good” for his big moment.
This is fighting not a how you look show Ruiz is obviously smart enough too understand that you fight @ a weight your 100% comfortable with hes gone the distance several times as a pro and MANY MORE times as a amateur he has consistently shown his weight can take him 12 hard rounds if need be.
As a general rule don’t fix something that isn’t broken, that weight he carry’s will catch up with him when he hits 33-35 years old as your timing, reflex’s, countering ability starts too wane bit bye bit couple that with wear n tear a lot of wars under your belt, age etc
For the time being he can get away with his weight but time catches up with everybody that fights and that weight for him down the line will be a issue @ the present it’s perfect for him
BINGO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good post bro.
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Ruiz had 105 amateur fights and won 100 of them.
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He only had a few weeks to prepare for the fight.
I expect he will be in better shape.
But you can have a bodybuilder's body and a chin like tin.
Joshua has one.
He brings back memories of Frank Bruno.
I remember Jim Lampley's quote describing ole Frank before his first beating from Mike Tyson:
"With the body of a Greek god, and the chin of a Poet Laureate."
so much like Bruno- mechanical wooden style with a weak defense
muchbetter power than Bruno but RUiz great chin- def. took AJ's hardest left hooks and right crosses , knocked down but came back fighting
great performance by ruiz
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1st punch that started the rot for Aj was a Left hook counter right on the chin in the 3rd round (as he was trying to finish Ruiz)
Nope, you are wrong by a country mile, old man. Here is the hook to the temple when they got into an exchange after AJ knocked Ruiz down. Go back and watch highlights. Joshua's leg go right after this shot. Your standard inability to recover and regain coordination after the punch. He never truly recovered even rounds later. The same thing can occur with an ear shot if the vestibular canal is jolted.
https://youtu.be/DQ4P1ySqbLg?t=59 (https://youtu.be/DQ4P1ySqbLg?t=59)
Can Ruiz land another perfect temple shot in the rematch, a 2nd lightening strick? That's why this fight is Rahman vs Lennox 2.0 to me. Joshua is going to wash this dude.
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Nope, you are wrong by a country mile, old man. Here is the hook to the temple when they got into an exchange after AJ knocked Ruiz down. Go back and watch highlights. Joshua's leg go right after this shot. Your standard inability to recover and regain coordination after the punch. He never truly recovered even rounds later. The same thing can occur with an ear shot if the vestibular canal is jolted.
https://youtu.be/DQ4P1ySqbLg?t=59 (https://youtu.be/DQ4P1ySqbLg?t=59)
Can Ruiz land another perfect temple shot in the rematch, a 2nd lightening strick? That's why this fight is Rahman vs Lennox 2.0 to me. Joshua is going to wash this dude.
I can see the Rahman Lewis 2 scenario only it won't be as quick or as one sided. I think AJ can definitely turn the tables but he's gonna have to work to do it. AJ isn't as good as Lewis and Ruiz is probably better than Rahman.
Can you just imagine what the late, great Manny Steward would have been able to do with AJ? Scary thought.
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The counter left hook when throwing his straight right is basically the crux for him, he can basically Jab Ruiz all night from distance, I would bet his father didn't like the late replacement and the lack of sparring he had with similar fighters to prepare in saying that he had six weeks. I still think he can win the rematch, just needs to jab and move, and catch Ruiz coming in rather than go looking and reaching for him with the right hand.
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The counter left hook when throwing his straight right is basically the crux for him, he can basically Jab Ruiz all night from distance, I would bet his father didn't like the late replacement and the lack of sparring he had with similar fighters to prepare in saying that he had six weeks. I still think he can win the rematch, just needs to jab and move, and catch Ruiz coming in rather than go looking and reaching for him with the right hand.
Either man can win the rematch.
All ifs & butts - IF AJ keeps on the Move and Uses His Jab/ Height / Reach Advantage
IF Andy improves from where he is Now then that also Presents More Problems For AJ.
Will either of them Fight Wilder / Fury / Whyte in between as That could Really upset
The Apple Cart.
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Either man can win the rematch.
All ifs & butts - IF AJ keeps on the Move and Uses His Jab/ Height / Reach Advantage
IF Andy improves from where he is Now then that also Presents More Problems For AJ.
Will either of them Fight Wilder / Fury / Whyte in between as That could Really upset
The Apple Cart.
The rematch is scheduled for November. This is absolutely no way in hell Hearn will let Ruiz step in the ring with Wilder before Joshua has a chance to get the belts back. Wilder will measure distance with the left and find a home for the right. Mexicans all across NA will be throwing up beans. Ruiz is fully incapable of holding on to those belts for multiple defenses.
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The rematch is scheduled for November. This is absolutely no way in hell Hearn will let Ruiz step in the ring with Wilder before Joshua has a chance to get the belts back. Wilder will measure distance with the left and find a home for the right. Mexicans all across NA will be throwing up beans. Ruiz is fully incapable of holding on to those belts for multiple defenses.
I’d say your assessment is Fairly Accurate.
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In boxing it doesn’t work like that if AJ goes too the body it will leave him MORE open too the left hook as it was he left himself open with the straight right hand because of Ruiz fast hands and counter punching if Ruiz was fast enough countering a right hand he will have absolutely no trouble countering AJ shooting body shots.
Most people can not carry that type of weight the difference is Ruiz has fought his whole boxing career carry that type of bodyweight, he did a very very smart thing in regards too his opportunity 6 weeks ago he was presented...not panic drop weight drastically and Weaken himself just so he could “look good” for his big moment.
This is fighting not a how you look show Ruiz is obviously smart enough too understand that you fight @ a weight your 100% comfortable with hes gone the distance several times as a pro and MANY MORE times as a amateur he has consistently shown his weight can take him 12 hard rounds if need be.
As a general rule don’t fix something that isn’t broken, that weight he carry’s will catch up with him when he hits 33-35 years old as your timing, reflex’s, countering ability starts too wane bit bye bit couple that with wear n tear a lot of wars under your belt, age etc
For the time being he can get away with his weight but time catches up with everybody that fights and that weight for him down the line will be a issue @ the present it’s perfect for him
Great post and all good points. However, he did say on the Jimmy Kimmel show that he plans on being lighter with less bodyfat for the rematch.
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ANTHONY JOSHUA - Andy Ruiz' next opponent
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I could see Andy giving my friend Dillian a hard fight & possibly winning - depends on Dillians gas tank.
Not decided how he’d fair against Wilder.
I don’t see him beating a Good Version of Fury - to big and awkward.
Potentially 2 or 3 good fights in there, Boxing politics & $’s will dictate what happens.
Thanks Andy for Causing A Great Upset & Shaking the Heavyweights division up.
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Most of you have no idea because you arent tall n cant trow a punch.... Ruiz has a power and weight advantage , and perhaps speed. He is like a mexican mike tyson , hias defense leaves no openinings except jhis head..but mike had movement but ruiz got hands. aj should be moving like a ninja but is slow like your typical lazy black who has no heart
Its a real thing having no heart too much net flix n chill fried chicken... Ruiz fights like hes greedy and hyper like he just got done eating a box of poptarts and is firing on all 12 cylanders
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Most of you have no idea because you arent tall n cant trow a punch.... Ruiz has a power and weight advantage , and perhaps speed. He is like a mexican mike tyson , hias defense leaves no openinings except jhis head..but mike had movement but ruiz got hands. aj should be moving like a ninja but is slow like your typical lazy black who has no heart
Its a real thing having no heart too much net flix n chill fried chicken... Ruiz fights like hes greedy and hyper like he just got done eating a box of poptarts and is firing on all 12 cylanders
GTFOH, no one was talking about Ruiz before this fight. The fight is nothing more than Lennox vs Rahmon 2.0 in which AJ will get his belts back in 6-7 months, just like Lennox did. Upsets happen. The only course change would be if Haymon can get the WBA/WBC to do a unification between Wilder and Ruiz, in which Wilder will phucking decapitate him. Short reign for fat Mexican. Yes, fast hands but slow feet. As long as AJ keeps him at range as Wilder would do the rematch is cake.
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GTFOH, no one was talking about Ruiz before this fight. The fight is nothing more than Lennox vs Rahmon 2.0 in which AJ will get his belts back in 6-7 months, just like Lennox did. Upsets happen. The only course change would be if Haymon can get the WBA/WBC to do a unification between Wilder and Ruiz, in which Wilder will phucking decapitate him. Short reign for fat Mexican. Yes, fast hands but slow feet. As long as AJ keeps him at range as Wilder would do the rematch is cake.
No it’s not any thing like Lewis vs Rahman ::)
Lennox got caught and sparked from one Great Punch
AJ Got Put Down 4 Times - He wasn’t out and was up and able to continue on the
Last Knockdown - He didn’t want anymore & and showed no heart no desire to go on
That’s why the ref stopped the fight.
How long did AJ have from the moment he hit the floor on the last knockdown to when
The ref stopped the fight 24/25 seconds & showed no desire or inclination to continue.
His heart & desire are in question not his boxing ability.
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He looked off from the time of his ring walk. I will reserve judgement until after the rematch. His resume' and body of work up until this point was too good to ignore. He deserves a shot at redemption. If he's right mentally and physically, he should be able to make the Ruiz rematch a relatively easy night of work. Andy Ruiz is very good though. If you re-watch the Parker fight, you can make a case that Ruiz could have been undefeated going into the Joshua fight. Bob Arum won't admit it, but he never should have given up so quickly on Andy Ruiz. Right now, he'd be able to control Ruiz and Fury and have them fight with the winner pretty much holding ALL the cards and calling ALL the shots.
Tom Schwarz is no world beater, but Tyson Fury looked on fucking point Saturday night.
Also, unless Luis Oritz is shot, Deontay Wilder has a very tough night of work ahead of him.