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CONS SAY THEY MADE TEFLON DON CRAWL
BY TORI RICHARDS in Santa Ana, Calif.,
and BRIAN KATES in New York
DAILY NEWS WRITERS
Mob don John Gotti struck a deal with the murderous Aryan Brotherhood to protect him behind bars, but when he reneged, they forced him to "crawl back," a gang snitch told the feds.
Gotti ultimately wound up paying "large sums of money" to the Brotherhood to ensure his safety in the federal prison at Marion, Ill., according to one of several key prosecution documents in a case against the group that was obtained by the Daily News.
"Wiseguys on the street like the Teflon Don and all that stuff - it doesn't equate in prison," Aryan Brotherhood turncoat Kevin Roach told investigators in 2001. "They have to rely on people like the Aryan Brotherhood and the [Mexican Mafia] to protect them ... in prison."
Roach, the star witness in the massive federal case against the white supremacist prison gang, testified last week that reputed Brotherhood chief Barry (the Baron) Mills provided Gotti with a bodyguard.
In exchange, the Gambino crime boss agreed to arrange for a high-powered attorney to represent Mills in his appeal on a murder conviction in Atlanta, Roach said.
In 1994, after Gotti apparently failed to provide the attorney, Mills sent out a "kite" - or secret interprison message - saying he "wanted all of the AB to know that they were retracting their protection of Gotti," according to an FBI report.
"Mills wanted Gotti to learn a lesson. Sooner or later, Gotti would be assaulted and would have to crawl back to the AB," the report said.
In 1996, inmate Walter Johnson, a convicted bank robber, attacked Gotti in the exercise yard, punching him repeatedly in the head. Gotti "didn't throw any punches in return and only appeared to be defending himself," according to a prison report.
Roach told investigators that "Mills laughed and said he knew Gotti was going to end up having to crawl back to us," a Bureau of Prisons report reveals.
Gotti started paying "large sums of money to the AB on a yearly basis," according to federal documents.
Gotti later offered the Brotherhood a contract to kill Johnson, Roach said.
Johnson managed to avoid getting whacked and was released from prison in 2001.
Gotti's attorneys couldn't be reached for comment.
"This information is coming from government snitches and it's total fabrication," said Mark Fleming, one of Mills' attorneys. "No money from Gotti ever showed up on any of the defendants' accounts."
Gotti, sentenced to life in prison in 1992, died of cancer at a federal prison hospital in Springfield, Mo., in 2002.
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Too bad Craig doesn't have much money like John Gotti
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I don't think you can compare the physical condition of Craig Titus (who in all respect did compete and qualify in The Olympia) to a 60 year old over weight mafia midget with cancer. Now I will agree that John Gotti will get more respect then Craig could ever buy. Craig is still a big mother fucker and has servered time before, I am sure he will get in with a white supremacist group. lol He already has the skin head look!
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Wasn't John Gotti in like #5 lockdown where you are pretty much isolated from the general prison population?
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(http://www.titusandryan.com/wp-images/compare.jpg)
Oh yeah...Craig's really gonna look like an Olympian Bodybuiilder in prison. What a joke.
He already looks like he's 60 just in this pic that's a few months older than the first pic.
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(http://www.titusandryan.com/wp-images/compare.jpg)
Oh yeah...Craig's really gonna look like an Olympian Bodybuiilder in prison. What a joke.
He already looks like he's 60 just in this pic that's a few months older than the first pic.
Holy shit! He's lost a lot of size. It's gonna be a tough life in prison.
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wow Graig shrinking before our eyes ;D
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Holy shit! He's lost a lot of size. It's gonna be a tough life in prison.
um, he's retired now. that's code meaning he dont juice no more
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I don't think you can compare the physical condition of Craig Titus (who in all respect did compete and qualify in The Olympia) to a 60 year old over weight mafia midget with cancer. Now I will agree that John Gotti will get more respect then Craig could ever buy.
I dunno who actually respected gotti. From what i've read, the rest of the mob wanted nothing to do wiht him. The dumb ass guy was the stupidest mobster to live. See, when you commit crime, you wanna stay low key. Being on the cover of TIME and shti like that doesnt exactly make you low key. They guy was a fuckin joke.
and ya, even though titus may not look like olympia material, looks like hes still pretty strong!
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um, he's retired now. that's code meaning he dont juice no more
I know that - just kinda shocked how much he lost in such a short time.
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I dunno who actually respected gotti. From what i've read, the rest of the mob wanted nothing to do wiht him. The dumb ass f**cker was the stupidest mobster to live. See, when you commit crime, you wanna stay low key. Being on the cover of TIME and shti like that doesnt exactly make you low key. They guy was a fuckin joke.
and ya, even though titus may not look like olympia material, looks like hes still pretty strong!
yeah he pretty much ended the ways of the Old School Mob...big mouths, selling drugs..it spelled the end of the mob
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I'm not surprised that Craig is looking a lot smaller than he used to. You lose a lot of weight and muscle in jail. I know, as I just spent 2 years and 10 months inside. It's no picnic, that's for sure... When I went in I weighed 230 at (more or less) 9% bf, now I weigh just barely 200. (And that's after some post-prison training/eating. I was around 180 in the pen.) I also had some teeth broken, my nose destroyed (twice,) and recieved permanent injuries to my wrists and shoulders. No joke. I'm really happy to be out, that's for sure...
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Tell me more irony. I wanna know what happens in jail, if for nothing else, just to deter me from committing a crime in future lol. I am curious.
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To say that it 'sucked' would be the understatement of the century. It was the worst time of my life, no doubt about it... but it's really not much like what you see on TV or in movies -- it's really very boring. There's nothing to do 99% of the time; sometimes you're allowed to read, sometimes you're not -- that depends on your behavior and the 'good-will' of the guards and higher-ups. Speaking of the guards, those guys will treat you much worse than any inmate will... They treat you like you're less than shit, and if you say the slightest thing they don't like, they gang up on you and 'let loose.' There's nothing you can do about it, unless you really want to get fucked. Trust me. I've been there.
In 2 years and 10 months (I was sentenced to 3 years, but got two months off due to 'good behavior') I only got into three fights with other inmates. That's just me, though... I've seen some guys get beaten up every week. (Usually small guys with big mouths.) Some people can manage themselves inside, some can't.
Homosexuality is nowhere near as rampant in prison as most people think it is. Those gullible fucks who think otherwise watch too much TV...
Lastly, I didn't really notice any "Aryan Brotherhood." I'm not saying it doesn't exist, just that I've never encountered anybody from that organization. Having said that, most races stick to themselves, for obvious reasons...
I've paid my 'debt to society' and want to get it all beind me. I am real glad to be out, and never, ever want to find myself back in...
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I'm not surprised that Craig is looking a lot smaller than he used to. You lose a lot of weight and muscle in jail. I know, as I just spent 2 years and 10 months inside. It's no picnic, that's for sure... When I went in I weighed 230 at (more or less) 9% bf, now I weigh just barely 200. (And that's after some post-prison training/eating. I was around 180 in the pen.) I also had some teeth broken, my nose destroyed (twice,) and recieved permanent injuries to my wrists and shoulders. No joke. I'm really happy to be out, that's for sure...
glad you're out ( I think...LOL)...I'm sure you will keep on the straight and narrow from now on. Prsion is no place for anyone who wants to keep their sanity
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Irony, very glad to hear you made it out okay. Recidivism rate (convicts returning to jail) is 75% currently). Please be in the other 25%. The second time around, they throw the book at you.
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Thanks, bro. :D
Honestly, there's no way I'm going back. I'm sticking to the 'straight and narrow,' and nothing in the world could tempt me to commit any crime... I'd rather crawl my way to hell and back than spend another month in prison.
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Good Man! You can do it.
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I'm not surprised that Craig is looking a lot smaller than he used to. You lose a lot of weight and muscle in jail. I know, as I just spent 2 years and 10 months inside. It's no picnic, that's for sure... When I went in I weighed 230 at (more or less) 9% bf, now I weigh just barely 200. (And that's after some post-prison training/eating. I was around 180 in the pen.) I also had some teeth broken, my nose destroyed (twice,) and recieved permanent injuries to my wrists and shoulders. No joke. I'm really happy to be out, that's for sure...
hahahahahaha.
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Irony, My Brother,
I too spent time incarcerated in the GetBig Time Out Board. Almost 3 weeks to be exact. You and I both no the sting of incarceration, but I believe I am a better man for it.
I don't even want to imagine the things you've seen. PTSD possibly. Just hang in there and seek counseling if ya need it, bro.
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hahahahahaha.
It's not so funny to those who were there, bro. Short of losing a loved one, there's nothing harder than being an inmate...
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try being the victim of crime
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It's not so funny to those who were there, bro. Short of losing a loved one, there's nothing harder than being an inmate...
you do the crime you do the time, i don't have any sympathy for you, commit a crime and you go to where all of the other trash goes, to the graybar hotel to bend over and bite the pillow.
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^ BOOYA
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both the murderer and his ugly wife are lucky to be born in usa..they could have been in some turkish prison ala "midnight express" till the execution. they have not seen worst yet but they will..got nothing to worry about they will
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both the murderer and his ugly wife are lucky to be born in usa..they could have been in some turkish prison ala "midnight express" till the execution. they have not seen worst yet but they will..got nothing to worry about they will
oh yeah
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what a blah thread
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Sounds like Gotti got OWNED.
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(http://www.titusandryan.com/wp-images/compare.jpg)
Oh yeah...Craig's really gonna look like an Olympian Bodybuiilder in prison. What a joke.
He already looks like he's 60 just in this pic that's a few months older than the first pic.
monster catabolic state !!!
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Man, what a beast: he looks like he has AIDS.
He and horseface deserve the crap they have coming to them
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I would like that if the death penalty is on the table he will at a minimum get life. I haven't heard if the DA is going to go after the death penalty. Has anyone else? I would suspect since they cannot pin point the exact manner of death - it may be hard to get the death penalty. Either way I think those two are going away for MANY years to come.
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try being the victim of crime
That was a totaly burn there is no come back for that sting
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Gotti was held in isolation his whole time in prison. He didn't have any interaction with any prisoner.
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Gotti was held in isolation his whole time in prison. He didn't have any interaction with any prisoner.
how do you know that?
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He was isolated the entire time. Too many guys.......lifers, who have nothing to lose would have taken him out.............just to say they did it. I'm a correctional officer at a federal prison in California. Nobody gets close to the "worst offenders". Too much liability for the state. Gotti was held in a "Super Maximum" area, way under ground. He was lucky to see day light, let alone mingle with other prisoners.
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He was isolated the entire time. Too many guys.......lifers, who have nothing to lose would have taken him out.............just to say they did it. I'm a correctional officer at a federal prison in California. Nobody gets close to the "worst offenders". Too much liability for the state. Gotti was held in a "Super Maximum" area, way under ground. He was lucky to see day light, let alone mingle with other prisoners.
how much do you make a year
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I can't wait to see how big he looks for the trial. He may still be strong but someone's gonna mess him up in there for what they did. Big dumbell is pretty smart with all his views....imagine how the victim feels. You rock dude.
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He was isolated the entire time. Too many guys.......lifers, who have nothing to lose would have taken him out.............just to say they did it. I'm a correctional officer at a federal prison in California. Nobody gets close to the "worst offenders". Too much liability for the state. Gotti was held in a "Super Maximum" area, way under ground. He was lucky to see day light, let alone mingle with other prisoners.
Thanks a bunch for this insider note. I always wondered how they were
protected. Meanwhile, the Manson Family women have the run of the
mainline in Frontera. Because women are less of a physical threat? Less
apt to harm another for recognition? Whaddayathink?
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you know even guys in solitary can get hit. It's not that difficult. Guards aren't always the angels they are made out to be. I'm sure most of them are hard working straight up guys, but you know there are those who talke advantage and make a little extra by turning a blind eye to violence. The criminals run most prisons, whether anyone wants to admit it or not.
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I thought he was in solitary confinement ::)
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I was told that going into prison with any size on you from working out will be lost almost overnight...The guards won't allow you to even touch a weight for 3-6 months....They won't to get the intimdation factor down...
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Well I had heard that lifting is now outlawed in prisons, isn't it? In the big houses, like San Quentin, Rykers, etc... hasn't all the equipment been removed because of too many attacks and outburst of violence??
Anyone know?
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as far as i'm concerned people in prison for violent crimes should have the BARE MINIMUM for survival, one set of clothes, one meal of bread and water per day and 24 hours of solitary confinement per day, no TV, one shower per week, no books, no weights, no letter writing, no talking.
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I am with you on that one sarcasm
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I'm not surprised that Craig is looking a lot smaller than he used to. You lose a lot of weight and muscle in jail. I know, as I just spent 2 years and 10 months inside. It's no picnic, that's for sure... When I went in I weighed 230 at (more or less) 9% bf, now I weigh just barely 200. (And that's after some post-prison training/eating. I was around 180 in the pen.) I also had some teeth broken, my nose destroyed (twice,) and recieved permanent injuries to my wrists and shoulders. No joke. I'm really happy to be out, that's for sure...
You forgot about the salad tossings at night.
I did a month in jail, never had so much ass in my life! ;D
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