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i guess ronnie looked like the clear winner.
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spot on diagnosis. ronnie is a god among men. repeat ronnie repeat
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ronnie looking huge here!!!!!!
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the poses that sealed ronnies victory.unbeatable
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the poses that sealed ronnies victory.unbeatable
keep em coming. this year's win will transform ronnie into an immortal
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here makes ray look like a child..all the way coleman
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here makes ray look like a child..all the way coleman
absoutly.. ronnie on stage is like paul seeing the blinding vision of jesus on the road to damascus. ronnie ,the white light shining from around him, then lights out !!!
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i think eitehr of those top 3 could have won
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Overall Ronnie carries the most muscle. Jay is more balanced though - he's got a bigger chest and his stomach doesn't stick out there. But the judges are more interested in mass.
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Looks like a Cutler win to me. Close, but I give it to Jay.
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Overall Ronnie carries the most muscle. Jay is more balanced though - he's got a bigger chest and his stomach doesn't stick out there. But the judges are more interested in mass.
no. also...jay may not have had as big of a got( now his guts surpassed ronnies thoguh) but hs always been more blocky and had a wider waste than coleman. colemans always had a small waist,even now.
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Enough said
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Enough said
you are truly the bringer of the Hulkster deluge.
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here makes ray look like a child..all the way coleman
Christ, look at COlemans quads..they are insane.
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Enough said
Don't think that Ronnie was giving himself the second place sign. ::) 2001 was the best that Jay ever looked. Ronnie still deserved to win. Shawn Ray, whatever.
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Don't think that Ronnie was giving himself the second place sign. ::) 2001 was the best that Jay ever looked. Ronnie still deserved to win. Shawn Ray, whatever.
Ronnie was smooth as a babies ass and had a nice gut going , he lost that contest period !! he won the contest but didn't beat Cutler , the only thing that saved him was he was already a multiple Olympia winner besides the 1980 Olympia this Olympia was the biggest joke .
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Ronnie was smooth as a babies ass and had a nice gut going , he lost that contest period !! he won the contest but didn't beat Cutler , the only thing that saved him was he was already a multiple Olympia winner besides the 1980 Olympia this Olympia was the biggest joke .
No, Columbu's last win was worse.
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Ronnie was smooth as a babies ass and had a nice gut going , he lost that contest period !! he won the contest but didn't beat Cutler , the only thing that saved him was he was already a multiple Olympia winner besides the 1980 Olympia this Olympia was the biggest joke .
your a complete idiot. the only thing that saved him from tying with cutler as he did from the front was the fact that he absolutely destroyed him from the back.
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there's a video on bodybuildingdungeon that shuts down any arguments that ronnie should have won. jay demolished him and it was embarrassing. ronnie would have been embarrassed less if he'd gotten 2nd.
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ND did you completely miss the back shots? jay probably edged ronnie from the front but fromk the back it was lights out. in any case it was certainly close, but i still think ronnie takes it based on his superiority from the back as well as his better structure.
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ND did you completely miss the back shots? jay probably edged ronnie from the front but fromk the back it was lights out. in any case it was certainly close, but i still think ronnie takes it based on his superiority from the back as well as his better structure.
I watched the vid and checked out all the pics , Ronnie was off plain & simple he may have had a much better back at the ASC but not in this contest , he was soft & flat , it wasn't close Ronnie was trailing by I believe 6 points or more going into the night show and Ronnie won by 4 point lol laughable , Ronnie is much better than Cutler 99 out of 100 times , on this night Ronnie lost and he knows it .
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I watched the vid and checked out all the pics , Ronnie was off plain & simple he may have had a much better back at the ASC but not in this contest , he was soft & flat , it wasn't close Ronnie was trailing by I believe 6 points or more going into the night show and Ronnie won by 4 point lol laughable , Ronnie is much better than Cutler 99 out of 100 times , on this night Ronnie lost and he knows it .
It's not over till it's over. Jay may have been judged to have the better physique, hence his victory in the first two rounds, but that doesn't mean he should win a bodybuilding contest.
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It's not over till it's over. Jay may have been judged to have the better physique, hence his victory in the first two rounds, but that doesn't mean he should win a bodybuilding contest.
Sure it does , they have this unwritten rule that a current Olympia cannot win , Ronnie won on paper and thats about it .
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Sure it does , they have this unwritten rule that a current Olympia cannot win , Ronnie won on paper and thats about it .
Having a better physique doesn't mean you should win. You have to present your physique in the best light in the last two rounds and Cutler didn't do that.
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Having a better physique doesn't mean you should win. You have to present your physique in the best light in the last two rounds and Cutler didn't do that.
LMFAO Ronnie is a terrible poser and always has been , he can barely do the mandatroies , bottom like Ronnie knows he lost that one so should you .
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LMFAO Ronnie is a terrible poser and always has been , he can barely do the mandatroies , bottom like Ronnie knows he lost that one so should you .
ronnie never lost it. and ronnie is a great poser.
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ronnie never lost it. and ronnie is a great poser.
Yawn!!
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LMFAO Ronnie is a terrible poser and always has been , he can barely do the mandatroies , bottom like Ronnie knows he lost that one so should you .
Ronnie posed with more heart. He deserved the win.
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Ronnie posed with more heart. He deserved the win.
lol heart
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lol heart
He also posed with more desire and soul.
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He also posed with more desire and soul.
He won because God made it happen , because its all part of " Our Fathers Plan "
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He won because God made it happen , because its all part of " Our Fathers Plan "
Better for Coleman to win than godless Jay Cutler who lives in Sin City. ;D
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i guess ronnie looked like the clear winner.
Cutler won that show. The Ronnie of 98 and 99 was a clear winner, but in 2001 he was nothing special:the same size as in 99, but with less striations, details, separations and conditioning. When they are roughly equivalent in size, Cutler beats Ronnie flat out:his structure and long muscle bellies trounce Coleman. Ronnie's game is mass; Cutler's is a classical taper WITH mass. After Wheeler retired, Cutler was updraded to the status of most genetically gifted bodybuilder on the pro circuit.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Cutler won that show. The Ronnie of 98 and 99 was a clear winner, but in 2001 he was nothing special:the same size as in 99, but with less striations, details, separations and conditioning. When they are roughly equivalent in size, Cutler beats Ronnie flat out:his structure and long muscle bellies trounce Coleman. Ronnie's game is mass; Cutler's is a classical taper WITH mass. After Wheeler retired, Cutler was updraded to the status of most genetically gifted bodybuilder on the pro circuit.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
apparently you didn't see Jay and Ronnie comparing BACKS that year ::)
If its close from the front, but Night and Day from the back, its an obvious win.
Everytime I see pics/videos from 2001 I can't figure out why it was as controversial as it was.
ps - obviously Jay had better conditioning - he failed the diuretics test. He should have been DISQUALIFIED never mind winning.
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Cutler's is a classical taper WITH mass
I hope that line was a joke - Jay has a classical taper? BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
jay has NEVER had a classical taper..Ronnie has had one back in the day.
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I hope that line was a joke - Jay has a classical taper? BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
jay has NEVER had a classical taper..Ronnie has had one back in the day.
You misunderstood me. What I mean is that Jay has an almost perfect skeletal structure, resembling Casey Viator's, with the long muscle bellies of Wheeler and Oliva. As far as waist-to-shoulder ratios goes, Ronnie does have it beeter than Cutler. But unfortunately, Ronnie stopped taking advantage of this since the 99 O:after that, all of his O showings were marked by an increased waist.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
P.S:I don't even like Cutler, but I give credit where credit is due...
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You misunderstood me. What I mean is that Jay has an almost perfect skeletal structure, resembling Casey Viator's, with the long muscle bellies of Wheeler and Oliva. As far as waist-to-shoulder ratios goes, Ronnie does have it beeter than Cutler. But unfortunately, Ronnie stopped taking advantage of this since the 99 O:after that, all of his O showings were marked by an increased waist.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
P.S:I don't even like Cutler, but I give credit where credit is due...
not true....in 2002 he came in with a smaller than in 2001, and in 2005 his gut was considerably smaller than its been since 2002. and his waist has always been very tiny.
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Look at Shawn Ray in the back. Whatever he's doing it's probably sneaky and ratish. Can anyone find that snitch picture?
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i am with hulkster on this..ronnie definetly had the size advantage and when coleman and cutler were comparin their arms in the front duoble bicep,ronnie smokes him.also in the sie chest poses,ronnie wins all the way.ronnie lost onl y in one pose that is the abs and thigh pose.cutler won that pose for sure.......but in all the back poses coleman was definetly winning.it was a close call but ronster did win fair and square.......
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apparently you didn't see Jay and Ronnie comparing BACKS that year ::)
If its close from the front, but Night and Day from the back, its an obvious win.
Everytime I see pics/videos from 2001 I can't figure out why it was as controversial as it was.
ps - obviously Jay had better conditioning - he failed the diuretics test. He should have been DISQUALIFIED never mind winning.
You can't look objectively at Coleman and thats why you can't think he'd lose ;) Jay outclassed Coleman on that day and it still remains One of the most controversial Mr Olympia contests since 1980 and if you want to get techincal Jay failed the diuretics test sued and won because the test wasn't preformed in an IOC lab ;) and that same contest didn't Ronnie have a U.S. flag and props are forbiden by the IFBB so he should have lost that round just based on that !! Coleman got beat outright .
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To all who said Ronnie is a great poser
PLEASE LAY DOWN THE PIPE
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Jay might win the 'relaxed' pose or whatever but when watching the video it becomes clear that ronnie is better put together. He has way more detail and shape, which does not mean he wasn't smooth or watery or whatever which he was, but Ronnie doesn't just have bigger arms, chest and back they all have more shape and detail and nice lines. Jay's whole upper body lacks striations.
Jay has always been a fridge, and he actually has quite a weak chest. He looks more striated in the ass than ever here though, so a close call by all accounts but Ronnie is bigger AND has superior shape and detail to the max, just a bit watery.
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ronnie totally outposed Jay
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You can't look objectively at Coleman and thats why you can't think he'd lose ;) Jay outclassed Coleman on that day and it still remains One of the most controversial Mr Olympia contests since 1980 and if you want to get techincal Jay failed the diuretics test sued and won because the test wasn't preformed in an IOC lab ;) and that same contest didn't Ronnie have a U.S. flag and props are forbiden by the IFBB so he should have lost that round just based on that !! Coleman got beat outright .
first of all..realize that hulkster isnt the only one saying that ronnnie won. andthen realize that im totally unbiasd and that i became a bodybuilding fan in dec of 04...so when making my opinions on thepast contests im going solely by what ive seen, not on prior opinions. then realize that from the fron ronnie and jay were equal in size, but ronnie had better quality muscle. just look at the arm seperation on the man form those pics. that i salo part of bodybuilding, if it were not rhul would win all the contests. and secondly, you say jay was better conditioned...well he might have been holding less water, but ronnies glutes and hams were still shredded while jays were n ot. plus ronnie beat jay outright inn all the back poses. ronnie easily won.
...also, if it isnt even as controversial as when arnold won the olympia back in 1980...than its obvious that ronnie did win because with close inspection arnold did infact bveat all those jealous losers like zane ;D
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i have never doubted for a second that Jay won that show. To all the hardcore coleman fans, you say he won because of his back but what about the front? Jays quads and abs destroyed Ronnies, his legs were superior as a whole, his chest was at the very least on par and his arms were also very good. OK so he didnt have a better back, but back is 1 bodypart. Overall Jay completely destroyed ronnies myth that he couldnt be beaten, but the politics that have plagued the progress and the validity of this sport wouldnt allow their number 1 to lose.
Why was it that Ronnie alone was allowed to use props when there was a complete ban on them, and why was he given 10 minutes to pose as opposed to everyone elses 2 minutes? That show stunk of being a fix but it also propelled Jay to superstardom. Hes been playing catch up ever since and has ruined his physique because of it.
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but back is 1 bodypart.
but it is emphasized in 3 of the 7 mandatory poses (no most muscular back then)....
(front lat, back lat, back double bi)
so, to say it is only one bb is a little misleading - it is perhaps the most important bodypart as a result of this.
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first of all..realize that hulkster isnt the only one saying that ronnnie won. andthen realize that im totally unbiasd and that i became a bodybuilding fan in dec of 04...so when making my opinions on thepast contests im going solely by what ive seen, not on prior opinions. then realize that from the fron ronnie and jay were equal in size, but ronnie had better quality muscle. just look at the arm seperation on the man form those pics. that i salo part of bodybuilding, if it were not rhul would win all the contests. and secondly, you say jay was better conditioned...well he might have been holding less water, but ronnies glutes and hams were still shredded while jays were n ot. plus ronnie beat jay outright inn all the back poses. ronnie easily won.
...also, if it isnt even as controversial as when arnold won the olympia back in 1980...than its obvious that ronnie did win because with close inspection arnold did infact bveat all those jealous losers like zane ;D
Only the delusional are saying Ronnie won , and this statement from you ronnie easily won.
prove right here you don't know what you're talking about , he didn't win easy in the least he was trailing SIX points going into the evening show , for a Mr Olympia that was UNHEARD of and he ended up " winning " by just 4 points , so that contest was anything but easy for him , 2001 Olympia was a joke on par with 1980 and 1981 Olympia , Ronnie knew he lost .
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apparently you didn't see Jay and Ronnie comparing BACKS that year ::)
If its close from the front, but Night and Day from the back, its an obvious win.
Jay beat Ronnie in the pre judging rounds. The ONLY reason Jay lost was because he had a average posing routine (the first time ever that a posing routine cost somebody the Olympia ::) )
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alright you fuckin morons...looka t this: close from the front, but destroyed in every pose from the back. thmeans that ronnie won!!! goddamn you guys are fuckin losers.
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alright you fuckin morons...looka t this: close from the front, but destroyed in every pose from the back. thmeans that ronnie won!!! goddamn you guys are fuckin losers.
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