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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Al Doggity on May 28, 2019, 02:57:36 PM
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What 1 exercise do you think would build the best upper body if it was the only exercise your workouts consisted of?
I know a lot of people would reflexively say "deadlift". Many of you know how i feel about the deadlift. I have never heard of anyone building an impressive physique using only deadlifts.
I have seen many people make significant gains with workouts focused on one of several other exercises, though: pushups, pullups, bench press, even bicep curls.
IMO, pullups/ chinups would give you the most complete upper body.
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wheel of pain.
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Dips and pull ups need two,then cardio for legs.
Or else just dips if only one is possible.
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Dips
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Dips and pull ups need two,then cardio for legs.
Or else just dips if only one is possible.
Only one is possible. IMO, if you get two, you can have dozens of push/pull combinations that will give you a total workout and complete physique.
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dips were known as the upper body squat. you should do a tri-set= dips + chins+ pushups 3 sets of 12 reps rest a minute or two between sets.
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Technically, it's considered a single exercise :) -
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Dips
YES, Gironda dips !.
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Well, dips seem to be the consensus. :)
No doubt a great exercise.
I actually did have a period where my workouts were pretty much just dips, biceps curls and a lot of lower body exercises.
I will say this in opposition to dips. I have a much more noticeable upper body taper when I'm doing a lot of pull /chin ups. There's a few physique/classic guys that train at my gym and a couple of them do bodyweight bar exercises almost every workout. And their lats are borderline ridiculous for their bodytypes.
So, as great as dips are, if I was thinking about building the widest back possible, along with maximizing as much other stuff as possible, I would probably stick with chins/pulls.
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Military presses starting with the bar on the floor.
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I actually did have a period
Tranny outed
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Dips
Yep.
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Dips hurt my back for whatever reason. It’s not a low back exercise but on occasion I get the twinge/pinch in my lower back while doing them. Also hurts the part of my palm near my pinky.
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Dips hurt my back for whatever reason. It’s not a low back exercise but on occasion I get the twinge/pinch in my lower back while doing them. Also hurts the part of my palm near my pinky.
The problem with dips as well as pull-ups is that you have to use your entire body weight without any warm up. You can get away with this when you’re young but as you get older it won’t end well. You wouldn’t do a first set of lat pull downs on the machine with 200 pounds.
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Military press or push press.
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I wanted to go with a clean and press variation too, but clean before the press would break this stipulation -
"Only one is possible. IMO, if you get two, you can have dozens of push/pull combinations that will give you a total workout and complete physique."
Otherwise, yeah, some version of the C and P is the best answer, in my opinion.
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Military presses starting with the bar on the floor.
Yes. Good answer
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The problem with dips as well as pull-ups is that you have to use your entire body weight without any warm up. You can get away with this when you’re young but as you get older it won’t end well. You wouldn’t do a first set of lat pull downs on the machine with 200 pounds.
Very good point. Never thought of it that way.
I think they stress my shoulder too much. I have had a CM of each collarbone cut off. I used to do three plates for reps on this, now, I think there are better alternatives.
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I wanted to go with a clean and press variation too, but clean before the press would break this stipulation -
"Only one is possible. IMO, if you get two, you can have dozens of push/pull combinations that will give you a total workout and complete physique."
Otherwise, yeah, some version of the C and P is the best answer, in my opinion.
If one rep contains both the push and pull movement, it falls within the scope of the guidelines.
The problem with dips as well as pull-ups is that you have to use your entire body weight without any warm up. You can get away with this when you’re young but as you get older it won’t end well. You wouldn’t do a first set of lat pull downs on the machine with 200 pounds.
Good point, but you actually can do warm up sets of both exercises to a certain degree. There are assisted dip and pull up stations ofc. (Even though I suspect majority getbig would claim otherwise, those things are not reserved for bitches and pussies. Especially pull up station. And I should know. I read somewhere that I just had my period.)
You can also do bench dips (for the purposes of this discussion, close variations fall within the stipulations) with your knees bent like you're sitting in a chair. That decreases the resistance a lot and you can work yourself up to full bodyweight.
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dips were known as the upper body squat. you should do a tri-set= dips + chins+ pushups 3 sets of 12 reps rest a minute or two between sets.
Great advices Funk!
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Technically, it's considered a single exercise :) -
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Hopefully just joking here. ::)
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one upper body exercise? tittyfuck.
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Only one upper body exercise? Pushups.
Pushups and pullups with all variations would be superior. A complete upper body can be built with just these 2 exercises. Add bodyweight squats for legs.
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Push ups.
You can do them anywhere, with no need for equipment. Works the pecs, tris, delts, and core. It's safe for, and actually strengthens, your rotator cuff.
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Bench (db or bar). Can do all sorts of variants. Can also still look good by developing your chest.
Not a fan of dips unless it is high reps.
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power clean or clean and press
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Most people I see are doing dips the wrong way. Instead of bending your legs back and bending your knees as you descend, your legs should be facing forward and your body should be shaped like the letter 'J'. Once someone tries it that way, then all of a sudden they're not busting out as many reps.
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Hopefully just joking here. ::)
Actually I'm not, I figured the Clean and Press might be disqualified as two exercises, but it's not, so I'll go with that. It's the most complete exercise one can do.
That being said, I'd take a Muscle Up or the process of learning the exercise over the dip. Even if you fail, you're at least get a half-assed pull up or dip during the exercise. And as you get better with them you can play with isometrics, speed, and body position to get more out of them.
Also I'd take a pull or chin over a dip any day. Much rather have a strong back over pecs or tris for actual performance. You pull or pick up many more things than push them, and for real pushing comes from the legs anyway.
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Actually I'm not, I figured the Clean and Press might be disqualified as two exercises, but it's not, so I'll go with that. It's the most complete exercise one can do.
That being said, I'd take a Muscle Up or the process of learning the exercise over the dip. Even if you fail, you're at least get a half-assed pull up or dip during the exercise. And as you get better with them you can play with isometrics, speed, and body position to get more out of them.
Also I'd take a pull or chin over a dip any day. Much rather have a strong back over pecs or tris for actual performance. You pull or pick up many more things than push them, and for real pushing comes from the legs anyway.
I agree about the Clean and Press and the benefits. My concern is my lower back as I'm in my mid 40's now. Any suggestions on how to counter that? I do have a heavy duty two buckle leather belt that I rarely use, nowadays. Otherwise, I try to avoid weight training exercises that heavily involve your lower back.
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If clean and press is considered a single exercise then that's the one.
The clean being a squat clean.
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Bench press by a long shot
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wheel of pain.
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Great exercise for slaves and prisoners of war. Just make sure your slaves never get as big and strong as Conan.
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Most people I see are doing dips the wrong way. Instead of bending your legs back and bending your knees as you descend, your legs should be facing forward and your body should be shaped like the letter 'J'. Once someone tries it that way, then all of a sudden they're not busting out as many reps.
That is true (or at least for targeting chest more). Hated them and found them almost pointless for the results until doing them Gironda style.
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I agree about the Clean and Press and the benefits. My concern is my lower back as I'm in my mid 40's now. Any suggestions on how to counter that? I do have a heavy duty two buckle leather belt that I rarely use, nowadays. Otherwise, I try to avoid weight training exercises that heavily involve your lower back.
Honestly, for lower back and the Olys, I just do lots of extensions, don't try to be to pushy with intensity, and constantly adjust form even though it hurts my ego sometimes. Biggest help is having someone who knows the lift look and tell you when thing are going shitty form wise. Also if a gym has blocks or similar to pull from different heights, it's helpful.
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That is true (or at least for targeting chest more). Hated them and found them almost pointless for the results until doing them Gironda style.
Is that what they're called? Gironda dips? Didn't know that. I was taught to do them that way in my teens and saw the benefits right away once I could bust out 15-20 a set.
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Is that what they're called? Gironda dips? Didn't know that. I was taught to do them that way in my teens and saw the benefits right away once I could bust out 15-20 a set.
Yep, unless I am misunderstanding your description.
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Yep, unless I am misunderstanding your description.
No, you were right. I googled it and it was exactly like I was describing.
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one upper body exercise? tittyfuck.
Ron ban this stupidity !.
Thanks