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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SF1900 on June 02, 2019, 08:21:21 AM
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What I find odd, is given the importance of diet and training, he doesn't still look like an IFBB pro without the drugs. ??? ???
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7CCqQkJOyj0/maxresdefault.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByK2tq_ll7T/
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByDBkcwHr5-/
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What I find odd, is given the importance of diet and training, he doesn't still look like an IFBB pro without the drugs. ??? ???
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7CCqQkJOyj0/maxresdefault.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByK2tq_ll7T/
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByDBkcwHr5-/
How’s your Olympia training going?
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How’s your Olympia training going?
Going well.
Given my strict regiment of diet and training, I will likely be stepping on the Mr. O stage as a natural.
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Drugs are just the finishing touch. Thank you for pointing that out.
LOL @ Ben having the same inferior short biceps as me...maybe literally. :-X
I recall his calves being amazing.
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What I find odd, is given the importance of diet and training, he doesn't still look like an IFBB pro without the drugs. ??? ???
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7CCqQkJOyj0/maxresdefault.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByK2tq_ll7T/
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByDBkcwHr5-/
Maybe he stopped diet and training but kept taking the drugs?
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I remember him from the Generation Iron movie where he said if he’s “on” only Phil can beat him. Had a bunch of dudes in lab coats training him. Good for him he got out with his health.
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Shoulders and triceps are always the first things to melt away
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Going well.
Given my strict regiment of diet and training, I will likely be stepping on the Mr. O stage as a natural.
SF1900, we have all seen pics of your gifted physique, which already crushes that of the drug-reliant. I believe you have the right stuff to thong it up at the O. Stay hungry!
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I remember him from the Generation Iron movie where he said if he’s “on” only Phil can beat him. Had a bunch of dudes in lab coats training him. Good for him he got out with his health.
;D
At the Olympia press conference that year, he was the only one with the balls to call out Branch Warren.
In hindsight, he never had the genetics to be close to Phil.
Horrible arms genetics. Great calves. BFG [who I think was Tom Prince 🤴 ...the account has since been deleted] stated that Ben had poor arms genetics. I think he said he should have put synthol in his arms...if he was going to put it anywhere.
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It’s always weird to me when these dudes go from mass monsters to non-lifters.
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What I find odd, is given the importance of diet and training, he doesn't still look like an IFBB pro without the drugs. ??? ???
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7CCqQkJOyj0/maxresdefault.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByK2tq_ll7T/
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByDBkcwHr5-/
Maybe his drugs, training, and diet regime are the same... but now, he isn’t getting enough sleep each night
In FLEX Magazine, sleep was often mentioned as the overlooked “key” in “unlocking” muscle growth
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the ones who trained the longest naturally and semi PED use and have solid genetics look the best as father time moves along
example
serge nubret
rory leidelmeyer
vince taylor
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Looks solid training here with Larry.
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SF1900, we have all seen pics of your gifted physique, which already crushes that of the drug-reliant. I believe you have the right stuff to thong it up at the O. Stay hungry!
Thank you, Kahn!
I will keep up the all natural training and give updates regarding my Mr. O progress.
Thank you for the support!
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the ones who trained the longest naturally and semi PED use and have solid genetics look the best as father time moves along
example
serge nubret
rory leidelmeyer
vince taylor
Serge and Vince also trained light -- and were given a lot of shit for it -- but they didn't accumulate injuries the way other guys have.
Al Beckles is another good example of this, and another guy who looked great into old age.
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Serge and Vince also trained light -- and were given a lot of shit for it -- but they didn't accumulate injuries the way other guys have.
Al Beckles is another good example of this, and another guy who looked great into old age.
yep. Beckles is another one.
frank zane as well.
always looked healthy, looked amazing and did well as father time moves
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john grimek born 1910 this pic is from the mid 60's when reg park visited york pa.
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It was all downhill after he split from his training guru, Dr. Flip Flops.
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It was all downhill after he split from his training guru, Dr. Flip Flops.
you got one of those white coats on, you're either a butcher or a scientist.
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It was all downhill after he split from his training guru, Dr. Flip Flops.
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Maybe his drugs, training, and diet regime are the same... but now, he isn’t getting enough sleep each night
In FLEX Magazine, sleep was often mentioned as the overlooked “key” in “unlocking” muscle growth
Excellent outlier variable beyond the normal data set {drugs, training, diet}, Royalty. Falling asleep on the value of sleep turns waking life into a catabolic nightmare. Also, in addition to physiological reasons for Ben's diminution, maybe there are also psychological hindrances. For example, perhaps at the conceptual level. It's possible that Ben can no longer conceive, and hence cannot believe that he will achieve. As Sun Tzu wrote in the remaining fragments of his long lost training manual, Generals of the Squat Rack: "Every battle is first won in the mind, enhanced with the drugs, forged in training, honed through the diet, and claimed on the stage." Conceptual visualization is the first, sine qua non, step to victorious thonged battle -- it is a must!
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Waiting for Coach to chime in here, pretty sure here it’s just a matter of diet. ;D
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Still seems pretty thick especially for a retired bb.
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It was all downhill after he split from his training guru, Dr. Flip Flops.
where is the editing! haha
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He's just standing relaxed and the lighting is bad... maybe a hater doctor'd the photo?
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He's just standing relaxed and the lighting is bad... maybe a hater doctor'd the photo?
Yes, just wait until he’s in his kitchen in a tank top with the overhead lighting. Then we will see who laughs last.
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the problem for this generation is that you keep the hgh head and (probably the) bubble gut, so you look abnormal when you drop to normie weight.
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I’ve listened to his Podcast. He seems like a pretty bright guy and realizes that the megadosing lifestyle doesn’t end well.
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the ones who trained the longest naturally and semi PED use and have solid genetics look the best as father time moves along
example
serge nubret
rory leidelmeyer
vince taylor
Vince claimed he lived on Coca Cola, burgers and ketchup and Scotch every day. Great genetics for longevity.
Nubret died from some type of adverse PED reaction probably, at least that's what it sounded like to me at the time. Anyone here know more?
As far as Pakulski, his pro look took a lot of everything. I believe what he says here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxnvSdXlSli/?igshid=rtwnmo477grn
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another bber who did a massive downsize
Sergi Constance Health Scare Forces Him Off Cycle?
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Trouble with most of these guys is that they don't train after taking gear, they are to lazy to do it without it.
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What I find odd, is given the importance of diet and training, he doesn't still look like an IFBB pro without the drugs. ??? ???
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7CCqQkJOyj0/maxresdefault.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByK2tq_ll7T/
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByDBkcwHr5-/
He looks like a sad sack of shit that never touched a weight in his sad fat life.
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Everyone is training guru on cycle but when they truly stop juicing their training knowledge disappears.
Heard from more than one steroid junkie that training without the drug assist is a waste of time. That is a really sad statement.
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He's small and useless to us now.
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Everyone is training guru on cycle but when they truly stop juicing their training knowledge disappears.
Heard from more than one steroid junkie that training without the drug assist is a waste of time. That is a really sad statement.
I agree we might disagree on the whole juice thing, but not training after retiring due to not being on the gas anymore is something that annoys me as well, I get you can't train the same way due to longer having the recovery but you still have to train its what it was all about in the beginning for all of us.
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I love getbig ;D
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What I find odd, is given the importance of diet and training, he doesn't still look like an IFBB pro without the drugs. ??? ???
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7CCqQkJOyj0/maxresdefault.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByK2tq_ll7T/
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByDBkcwHr5-/
Phantastic photo of yet another chemical clown. No doubt he was under contract to state he looked like that because of the fart powder he tried to sell?
Horrible fake tan by the way
Now he has to worry about the damage all those chemicals did to his kidneys, prostate, heart, liver etc etc.....
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you got one of those white coats on, you're either a butcher or a scientist.
Yes I remember. I think he and Nick were doing tricks in LA to 'make it'.
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Trouble with most of these guys is that they don't train after taking gear, they are to lazy to do it without it.
That's what it looks like. No matter how hard they train.
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He still has a good build in the green shirt pic.
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Love the pic with the flip-flop scientist.
Those lab coat ‘tards are training Ben like he’s Drago or some shit.
;D
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It was all downhill after he split from his training guru, Dr. Flip Flops.
White Lab Coat / Shorts & Flip Flops ::)
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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He still has a good build in the green shirt pic.
x2.
He still has a good build. Period. He no longer has anything to gain by competing -- his potential was always limited by unfortunate bicep and triceps genetics, and he'd gone as far as he could go. Once you've hit that point, trying to hold on to 260 pounds is a fool's errand.
Now he looks to be around 200-210 pounds, fit, healthy, and still strong enough for any sport or pursuit. That's pretty much optimal for the long-term.
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no he doesnt have a good build.
he's got a dadbod.
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Excellent outlier variable beyond the normal data set {drugs, training, diet}, Royalty. Falling asleep on the value of sleep turns waking life into a catabolic nightmare. Also, in addition to physiological reasons for Ben's diminution, maybe there are also psychological hindrances. For example, perhaps at the conceptual level. It's possible that Ben can no longer conceive, and hence cannot believe that he will achieve. As Sun Tzu wrote in the remaining fragments of his long lost training manual, Generals of the Squat Rack: "Every battle is first won in the mind, enhanced with the drugs, forged in training, honed through the diet, and claimed on the stage." Conceptual visualization is the first, sine qua non, step to victorious thonged battle -- it is a must!
;D
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I just saw him this weekend and he doesn't look bad at all. He's still pretty big, nothing like that second picture.
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I just saw him this weekend and he doesn't look bad at all. He's still pretty big, nothing like that second picture.
hi ben
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If you look at his instagram he is still in great shape, big dude, muscular, much better than your average gym rat. Even in the pic at the beginning of this thread you can clearly tell he is lean and muscular by looking at his pecs and how they are shaped and popping through his shirt. Now obviously he doesnt carry anywhere near the size he used to. But that is to be expected. And it doesnt mean that training and diet arent important factors, it just means that without the high amounts of drugs one will never be able to get anywhere near the size they would with them.
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If you look at his instagram he is still in great shape, big dude, muscular, much better than your average gym rat. Even in the pic at the beginning of this thread you can clearly tell he is lean and muscular by looking at his pecs and how they are shaped and popping through his shirt. Now obviously he doesnt carry anywhere near the size he used to. But that is to be expected. And it doesnt mean that training and diet arent important factors, it just means that without the high amounts of drugs one will never be able to get anywhere near the size they would with them.
Even taking steroids alone and doing nothing, most men could get bigger than that photo of Ben off drugs.
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Even taking steroids alone and doing nothing, most men could get bigger than that photo of Ben off drugs.
Is that what your experience taking steroids has told you?
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so he's a natural now but he still built his foundation where as a true lifetime natural like this guy looks so much better so im not very impressed with ben pakulski
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Is that what your experience taking steroids has told you?
To be fair, you didn’t have the genetics to do anything :D
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LOOL I just saw the new video Blaha put out. We just cannot say he is wrong. Matt Porter was very naïve and stupid :(
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Maybe his drugs, training, and diet regime are the same... but now, he isn’t getting enough sleep each night
In FLEX Magazine, sleep was often mentioned as the overlooked “key” in “unlocking” muscle growth
Maybe he stopped using BCAA???
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no he doesnt have a good build.
he's got a dadbod.
Thank you. He looks like shit.
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Excellent outlier variable beyond the normal data set {drugs, training, diet}, Royalty. Falling asleep on the value of sleep turns waking life into a catabolic nightmare. Also, in addition to physiological reasons for Ben's diminution, maybe there are also psychological hindrances. For example, perhaps at the conceptual level. It's possible that Ben can no longer conceive, and hence cannot believe that he will achieve. As Sun Tzu wrote in the remaining fragments of his long lost training manual, Generals of the Squat Rack: "Every battle is first won in the mind, enhanced with the drugs, forged in training, honed through the diet, and claimed on the stage." Conceptual visualization is the first, sine qua non, step to victorious thonged battle -- it is a must!
Funny as hell. Spit out my coffee when I read this. Hilarious.
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Vince claimed he lived on Coca Cola, burgers and ketchup and Scotch every day. Great genetics for longevity.
Nubret died from some type of adverse PED reaction probably, at least that's what it sounded like to me at the time. Anyone here know more?
As far as Pakulski, his pro look took a lot of everything. I believe what he says here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxnvSdXlSli/?igshid=rtwnmo477grn
Anyone follow Vince on IG? He is amazing. And Rory too - unreal.
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Excellent outlier variable beyond the normal data set {drugs, training, diet}, Royalty. Falling asleep on the value of sleep turns waking life into a catabolic nightmare. Also, in addition to physiological reasons for Ben's diminution, maybe there are also psychological hindrances. For example, perhaps at the conceptual level. It's possible that Ben can no longer conceive, and hence cannot believe that he will achieve. As Sun Tzu wrote in the remaining fragments of his long lost training manual, Generals of the Squat Rack: "Every battle is first won in the mind, enhanced with the drugs, forged in training, honed through the diet, and claimed on the stage." Conceptual visualization is the first, sine qua non, step to victorious thonged battle -- it is a must!
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It was all downhill after he split from his training guru, Dr. Flip Flops.
lolz
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talk about synthol delts, jesus. lol