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Title: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: old-school-lifter on June 19, 2019, 08:01:05 PM
1. karl Malone

2. karl Malone

3. dennis rodman

the mailman was shit
if he didn't play with john Stockton he wouldn't have the numbers he does
zero post up game
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: 2ND COMING on June 19, 2019, 08:07:17 PM
Rodman was 7 time all-defensive first team, 2 time defensive POTY. Not to mention a nWo member and POTUS ally. Remove him from this list at once.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: flipper5470 on June 19, 2019, 08:13:08 PM
Rodman could guard every position on the floor except...maybe...PG. He was also the single greatest offensive rebounder I've ever seen.


Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 19, 2019, 08:41:45 PM
I agree about Karl Malone but Rodman could dominate a game without taking a shot. 

He did an outstanding job guarding Shaq in the playoffs for fucksakes.  I can't abide.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: old-school-lifter on June 19, 2019, 10:13:32 PM
no doubt the Worm was one of the greatest defensive forwards but his offense was very limited
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: 2ND COMING on June 20, 2019, 06:25:11 AM
Rodman actually belongs on the "Most underrated" nba forwards list.

I'm calling OP a schmuck until further notice.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: XFACTOR on June 20, 2019, 06:53:13 AM
I’d add Shawn Kemp to the list
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: G_Thang on June 20, 2019, 06:55:20 AM
1. karl Malone

2. karl Malone

3. dennis rodman

the mailman was shit
if he didn't play with john Stockton he wouldn't have the numbers he does
zero post up game

Malone was always solid in the middle.  You aren't beating Jordan with 2 white boys on the perimeter, just not happening. He may have needed a change of scenery (Portland - Houston) like Dexler to win a championship.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Anonymous on June 20, 2019, 07:10:35 AM
Blake griffin was more overrated. At one point people were considering him a top 10 player in the league. He was just a dunker.
Melo was overrated as well.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Top Poodle on June 20, 2019, 08:19:08 AM
1. Lebron
2. Curry
3. Steve Nash
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: XFACTOR on June 20, 2019, 08:21:06 AM
1. Lebron
2. Curry
3. Steve Nash

Didn't realize Curry and Nash were Forwards
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Top Poodle on June 20, 2019, 08:27:44 AM
Didn't realize Curry and Nash were Forwards

Missed that part

Just thought he said NBA players
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: XFACTOR on June 20, 2019, 08:40:09 AM
Missed that part

Just thought he said NBA players

I like that you have Curry on there.  Steve Nash though? Lebron?

I'm no Lebron fan but he's not really overrated in my eyes.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 20, 2019, 08:47:54 AM
I’ll await Wiggs’ opinion on this.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: XFACTOR on June 20, 2019, 08:49:32 AM
I’ll await Wiggs’ opinion on this.

Tim Duncan?
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 20, 2019, 09:57:54 AM
1. karl Malone

2. karl Malone

3. dennis rodman

the mailman was shit
if he didn't play with john Stockton he wouldn't have the numbers he does
zero post up game
You picked two of the greatest forwards ever to be the most overrated. ::)
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: WoogsRaven on June 20, 2019, 11:23:20 AM
1. Derrick Coleman
2. Shawn Kemp
3. Keith Van Horne

The first two could've been all time greats if they didn't get involved with drugs and weight gain. Once Coleman started to gain weight, he lived behind the 3 point line. He was 6'10". Kemp got fat and watched his playing minutes dwindle with each passing season until he became nothing more than a role player. Van Horne couldn't defend anybody.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 20, 2019, 11:25:11 AM
1. Derrick Coleman
2. Shawn Kemp
3. Keith Van Horne

The first two could've been all time greats if they didn't get involved with drugs and weight gain. Once Coleman started to gain weight, he lived behind the 3 point line. He was 6'10". Kemp got fat and watched his playing minutes dwindle with each passing season until he became nothing more than a role player. Van Horne couldn't defend anybody.
Shawn Kemp was too busy making babies to work on his game.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: WoogsRaven on June 20, 2019, 12:48:14 PM
Shawn Kemp was too busy making babies to work on his game.

Shawn Kemp was awesome up until 1996 when he lost to the Bulls in the finals. Then he turned into complete shit.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 20, 2019, 01:38:48 PM
Let me fix the list

1.  CARMELO ANTHONY!!!
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: WoogsRaven on June 20, 2019, 02:29:35 PM
Let me fix the list

1.  CARMELO ANTHONY!!!

Carmelo is/was a pure scorer. His was really good during his first 8 years in the league. Then he stopped playing defense. Not sure I would call him overrated. Now he's just washed up at age 35.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: lightweight83 on June 20, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
Let me fix the list

1.  CARMELO ANTHONY!!!

That was gonna be my addition as well!  Scored a ton of points, but was never an efficient player.  Was also horribly defensively.

Some of you guys are gonna hate me for this, but I'd also add Pippen to this list.  If it wasn't for Jordan carrying him his whole career and getting him 6 rings, he wouldn't be looked at the same way that he is.  Dude averaged 16, 6 and 5 for his career and was put on the top 50 list in 1996!  There are dozens of players who everyone forgot about that had a similar career to pippen, they just didn't have the good fortune of playing with the G.O.A.T.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: WoogsRaven on June 20, 2019, 03:01:36 PM
That was gonna be my addition as well!  Scored a ton of points, but was never an efficient player.  Was also horribly defensively.

Some of you guys are gonna hate me for this, but I'd also add Pippen to this list.  If it wasn't for Jordan carrying him his whole career and getting him 6 rings, he wouldn't be looked at the same way that he is.  Dude averaged 16, 6 and 5 for his career and was put on the top 50 list in 1996!  There are dozens of players who everyone forgot about that had a similar career to pippen, they just didn't have the good fortune of playing with the G.O.A.T.

You're crazy, dude. Pippen was an absolute stud on both ends of the floor. If it wasn't for Pippen, Jordan would have won NOTHING. How can you say Jordan carried him? That's ridiculous. In 94-95, Pippen carried a Jordan-less Bulls to 55 wins and one win away from the NBA finals. You also forgot to mention he averaged 2 steals a game for his career.

I'm biased because Pippen is my favorite all time player. He played and excelled in the greatest era of basketball. The 90's, when MEN played the game. Not like the powder puffs of today.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 20, 2019, 03:13:55 PM
Kemp, Griffin and Melo maybe...but Malone, Pippen, Rodman....and even dare to say Tim Duncan...are overrated? NOPE
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: lightweight83 on June 20, 2019, 04:55:54 PM
You're crazy, dude. Pippen was an absolute stud on both ends of the floor. If it wasn't for Pippen, Jordan would have won NOTHING. How can you say Jordan carried him? That's ridiculous. In 94-95, Pippen carried a Jordan-less Bulls to 55 wins and one win away from the NBA finals. You also forgot to mention he averaged 2 steals a game for his career.

I'm biased because Pippen is my favorite all time player. He played and excelled in the greatest era of basketball. The 90's, when MEN played the game. Not like the powder puffs of today.

Give Jordan any other halfway decent player and the bulls would have had the same success.  He was a good defensive player, but was and is massively overrated!  Look at his stats, there are probably at least 2 dozen other players who have similar stat lines and are largely forgotten.  Combine that with the fact that Pippen said that Lebron is better than Jordan, and it's the reason I can't fucking stand him! Dude shit on the one person who gave him lifelong notoriety!
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: AbrahamG on June 20, 2019, 05:03:37 PM
Tim Duncan?

Trolling or retarded? Has to be one, the other or both.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: mazrim on June 20, 2019, 05:52:34 PM
Not bad choices but don't think either are held on some sort of super high pedestal meaning both are known as great players but not in the conversation as greatest ever.

I would say Kemp, out of the ones thrown out on here.

Melo, I think most fans know he was overrated now and Griffin also.

I am going with Williamson in the future for the hype right now.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: 2ND COMING on June 20, 2019, 07:18:28 PM
1. Amare Stoudemire
2. Dwight Howard
3. Kevin Garnett

Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: mazrim on June 20, 2019, 07:35:19 PM
1. Amare Stoudemire
2. Dwight Howard
3. Kevin Garnett


Ooh, Howard is a good one if he is considered a forward.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: XFACTOR on June 20, 2019, 07:42:19 PM
Trolling or retarded? Has to be one, the other or both.

No that’s Wiggs favourite player. It’s in context to the other guys post.

Duncan is also my second favourite player of all time. I’d never ever have him on there.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: AbrahamG on June 20, 2019, 10:17:15 PM
No that’s Wiggs favourite player. It’s in context to the other guys post.

Duncan is also my second favourite player of all time. I’d never ever have him on there.

Same here. Duncan might be best PF of all time.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: WoogsRaven on June 21, 2019, 07:19:10 AM
Give Jordan any other halfway decent player and the bulls would have had the same success.  He was a good defensive player, but was and is massively overrated!  Look at his stats, there are probably at least 2 dozen other players who have similar stat lines and are largely forgotten.  Combine that with the fact that Pippen said that Lebron is better than Jordan, and it's the reason I can't fucking stand him! Dude shit on the one person who gave him lifelong notoriety!

Absolutely incorrect. Pippen was instrumental in helping Jordan get over the top and become a champion. It never would've happened without Scottie. Massively overrated??! You have no idea what you're talking about and you don't really know basketball. And he didn't 'shit' on Jordan. Pippen simply said Lebron was a better overall player, and he is as far as filling up a stat sheet goes. Jordan was the best pure scorer in NBA history. And to compare the two is fucking stupid in the first place. Lebron is a point forward SF/PF and Jordan is a 2 guard. Lebron is 6'8", 250 pounds and Jordan was 6'6" and 215 pounds. Apples and oranges.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Hulkotron on June 21, 2019, 09:24:27 AM
Pippen was like proto-Lebron, he was an amazing all-around player.  Very ignorant remarks against him in this thread.

At a minimum he's the best "second banana" (no homo or racist) in NBA history, and that's saying something.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 21, 2019, 09:39:29 AM
Pippen was good enough to be a decoy for D that would otherwise go all to Jordan. Would have been a big star on any other team.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 21, 2019, 09:46:52 AM
Absolutely incorrect. Pippen was instrumental in helping Jordan get over the top and become a champion. It never would've happened without Scottie. Massively overrated??! You have no idea what you're talking about and you don't really know basketball. And he didn't 'shit' on Jordan. Pippen simply said Lebron was a better overall player, and he is as far as filling up a stat sheet goes. Jordan was the best pure scorer in NBA history. And to compare the two is fucking stupid in the first place. Lebron is a point forward SF/PF and Jordan is a 2 guard. Lebron is 6'8", 250 pounds and Jordan was 6'6" and 215 pounds. Apples and oranges.

Yes, it's like comparing a quarterback and defensive end in football.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Randomum on June 22, 2019, 06:01:03 AM
Carmelo Anthony...
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: tres_taco_combo on June 22, 2019, 07:00:35 AM
Rodman was 7 time all-defensive first team, 2 time defensive POTY. Not to mention a nWo member and POTUS ally. Remove him from this list at once.

he also dated Madonna and Carmen Electra

Rodman is my fav NBA player
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: Dave D on June 22, 2019, 12:34:03 PM
Absolutely incorrect. Pippen was instrumental in helping Jordan get over the top and become a champion. It never would've happened without Scottie. Massively overrated??! You have no idea what you're talking about and you don't really know basketball. And he didn't 'shit' on Jordan. Pippen simply said Lebron was a better overall player, and he is as far as filling up a stat sheet goes. Jordan was the best pure scorer in NBA history. And to compare the two is fucking stupid in the first place. Lebron is a point forward SF/PF and Jordan is a 2 guard. Lebron is 6'8", 250 pounds and Jordan was 6'6" and 215 pounds. Apples and oranges.


Pippen was good enough to be a decoy for D that would otherwise go all to Jordan. Would have been a big star on any other team.

Pip was GREAT but he took time to develop, a luxury lottery players today arent often afforded, and that was after 4 years in college.

His game was consistent with or without Jordan, as his numbers the year before, during and after MJ's year away were mostly identical.

My favorite Scottie memory was when he refused to come off the bench because PJax wanted Pip to be a decoy on the game winning shot designed for Kukoc, which Toni made.  Then to prove a point when Jordan came back Phil drew up a game winner for Kukoc again knowing Jordan would line up and play.

Funny stuff.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: SOMEPARTS on June 22, 2019, 02:01:10 PM
Pip was GREAT but he took time to develop, a luxury lottery players today arent often afforded, and that was after 4 years in college.

His game was consistent with or without Jordan, as his numbers the year before, during and after MJ's year away were mostly identical.

My favorite Scottie memory was when he refused to come off the bench because PJax wanted Pip to be a decoy on the game winning shot designed for Kukoc, which Toni made.  Then to prove a point when Jordan came back Phil drew up a game winner for Kukoc again knowing Jordan would line up and play.

Funny stuff.


One of the things about Jordan that also makes him better than say a LeBron was that he was actually coach-able even though he had that immense talent.

Result - all those rings.
Title: Re: Top 3 most overrated NBA forwards from 1990's to present
Post by: WoogsRaven on June 24, 2019, 08:05:59 AM
Pip was GREAT but he took time to develop, a luxury lottery players today arent often afforded, and that was after 4 years in college.

His game was consistent with or without Jordan, as his numbers the year before, during and after MJ's year away were mostly identical.

My favorite Scottie memory was when he refused to come off the bench because PJax wanted Pip to be a decoy on the game winning shot designed for Kukoc, which Toni made.  Then to prove a point when Jordan came back Phil drew up a game winner for Kukoc again knowing Jordan would line up and play.

Funny stuff.

My favorite Scottie memory was that epic dunk over Patrick Ewing in the Eastern conference finals. Then he stood over him, taunting him. In today's NBA he would have been suspended for a game. My least favorite moment was the situation you mentioned where he refused to come into the game to be a decoy for Kukoc. The Bulls were already down 2-0 in the series and likely would've been down 3-0 had Kukoc missed that shot. Not the best time to throw a hissy fit with so much on the line.