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https://nypost.com/2019/06/24/city-teachers-fleeing-new-york-at-an-alarming-rate-report/
Poor areas have highest turnover. Wow, I never knew lack of money in poor tots’ pockets drives teachers away. That must be the real reason, I guess.
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Rofl at more "teachers of colour" being the alleged solution.
Works great in AIDS-ridden Africa. Oh wait.
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Typical NYC school diversity...
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dont count on a school to teach your kids - a parent needs to be priority #1 when it comes to learning/teaching.
my mom was up my ass - she was a white "tiger mom" or "dragon lady"
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These NYC teachers make 100K plus. Shocked that they would leave a job that pays that for 9 months of work. If it's true where are they going? Going to South Carolina to make 38K?
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These NYC teachers make 100K plus. Shocked that they would leave a job that pays that for 9 months of work. If it's true where are they going? Going to South Carolina to make 38K?
I think one’s personal safety is worth more than 100k. Also emotional abuse isn’t easy either.
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dont count on a school to teach your kids - a parent needs to be priority #1 when it comes to learning/teaching.
my mom was up my ass - she was a white "tiger mom" or "dragon lady"
Of course. All parents have the skills and time to teach calculus and physics.
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These NYC teachers make 100K plus. Shocked that they would leave a job that pays that for 9 months of work. If it's true where are they going? Going to South Carolina to make 38K?
They can go to Nassau and Suffolk counties. Do you know what a typical NYC school is like?
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Of course. All parents have the skills and time to teach calculus and physics.
He is talking about life lessons that are more important than math and physics in the end.
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My Dad worked as a computer tech for the local public school system before he retired. He told my brother and I that he never would've made us go to school if he'd known how bad it was.
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They can go to Nassau and Suffolk counties. Do you know what a typical NYC school is like?
That's exactly how to worked with the new teachers that taught when I was a kid. They all did a year or two in NYC, then tried for LI, Westchester, or Conn.
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He is talking about life lessons that are more important than math and physics in the end.
He implied that as long as parents do that, then YT kids will fare well going to such schools. Life lessons do don’t mean much when one is getting jumped.
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HERE'S THE BREAK DOWN FOR GETBIGGER MENTALITY:
1. This letter is pretty spot on.
2. Its absolutely brilliant to have a residency. New teachers get a few weeks to student teach. That is not enough time to figure out if that is what you want to do or even get ready to be in a classroom.
3. Teachers are leaving poor sections in NEW YORK CITY (NOTICE I DID NOT SAY NEW YORK) because in NYC poor districts DO NOT GET THE SAME RESOURCES AS OTHER DISTRICTS!!!!! Understand? So that means a teacher that is in a poor district doesn't have, example: a white board, certain books, etc. etc. It's SHAMEFUL but you don't see Mario Cuomo saying a PEEP about that. Where are the black leaders?
4. Teachers are also leaving poor districts because of lack of parenting and values about education.
5. Hiring teachers of colour, Um...can't prove that one. I've seen disrespect from blacks to white and black administrators. It really doesn't matter. What does matter is if those kids have grown up with those teachers surrounding them IN THEIR NEIGOBORHOODS. This is why its important to hire people that live in that community.
Did you learn something?
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think one’s personal safety is worth more than 100k. Also emotional abuse isn’t easy either.
100k after 22 years.
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Of course. All parents have the skills and time to teach calculus and physics.
That's what our government says. They lay out how long teachers have for a certain subject. Take for example third grade when kids are learning states and money. They might spend an hour on it for one day because other things need to be covered. The parents that have the time to sit down with their kids and go over it will make out. Others, will not. Don't get me started with the "No Child Left Behind" garbage.
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100k after 22 years.
That is top of the pay scale for a typical NY teacher. They will earn more by doing part time coaching, lunch duty, after school duty which is about $4500 more. You can have regular NY teachers making around 120 grand which is what a administrator makes (Principal) but doesn't have summers off.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HERE'S THE BREAK DOWN FOR GETBIGGER MENTALITY:
1. This letter is pretty spot on.
2. Its absolutely brilliant to have a residency. New teachers get a few weeks to student teach. That is not enough time to figure out if that is what you want to do or even get ready to be in a classroom.
3. Teachers are leaving poor sections in NEW YORK CITY (NOTICE I DID NOT SAY NEW YORK) because in NYC poor districts DO NOT GET THE SAME RESOURCES AS OTHER DISTRICTS!!!!! Understand? So that means a teacher that is in a poor district doesn't have, example: a white board, certain books, etc. etc. It's SHAMEFUL but you don't see Mario Cuomo saying a PEEP about that. Where are the black leaders?
4. Teachers are also leaving poor districts because of lack of parenting and values about education.
5. Hiring teachers of colour, Um...can't prove that one. I've seen disrespect from blacks to white and black administrators. It really doesn't matter. What does matter is if those kids have grown up with those teachers surrounding them IN THEIR NEIGOBORHOODS. This is why its important to hire people that live in that community.
Did you learn something?
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So poor Blacks who refuse to work or be productive get shitty, inferior schools. How is that unfair?
In Canada, all schools get the same funding, so our non-White schools are going to collapse way faster, as White money runs out.
And why the fuck should Whites have to pay?
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Could not imagine trying to teach with smartphones in everybody's hand. Would be infuriating.
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dont count on a school to teach your kids - a parent needs to be priority #1 when it comes to learning/teaching.
my mom was up my ass - she was a white "tiger mom" or "dragon lady"
Not all the diverse children have parents like that Taco.
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The way of the "progressives" hahaha
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Amazing how everything in America can be solved by racial profiling.
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Same thing happening in the UK. A shortage of teachers in inner city areas with high black populations.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/oct/04/teacher-crisis-hits-london-as-nearly-half-quit-within-five-years
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Amazing how everything in America can be solved by racial profiling.
:D
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Often the worst school districts have the highest cost per pupil.
Money won't solve the problem which is dysfunctional families.
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I attended one of the worst high schools in New York City.
It was absolutely insane lol. The principal retired after six months of being there. He got tired of getting slapped in the face.
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I attended one of the worst high schools in New York City.
It was absolutely insane lol. The principal retired after six months of being there. He got tired of getting slapped in the face.
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I attended one of the worst high schools in New York City.
It was absolutely insane lol. The principal retired after six months of being there. He got tired of getting slapped in the face.
Who replaced him?
Someone who didn't take lightly to disrespect?
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Who replaced him?
Someone who didn't take lightly to disrespect?
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Oh, and can we set aside political correctness and admit that there's one group in particular that's responsible for this?
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Oh, and can we set aside political correctness and admit that there's one group in particular that's responsible for this?
Have we ever cared about political correctness on Getbig, the last bastion of truth on the interwebs?
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So poor Blacks who refuse to work or be productive get shitty, inferior schools. How is that unfair?
In Canada, all schools get the same funding, so our non-White schools are going to collapse way faster, as White money runs out.
And why the fuck should Whites have to pay?
Are you losing it Mathew?
Because then you have no equality when it comes to Public Education Mathew. How can a child better themselves, pull themselves out of the inner city when they are not given an equal playing field because higher ups in the Board Of Education hand out the money to schools the way they feel? I mean some of these schools are teaching kids with books that are 10-15 years old.
Where's Liberal Progressive Mario Cuomo when it comes to this? He could very well say I'm holding back funds to the NYC School District because they are not helping schools in the inner city. Why would he be silent? Because politics plays a roll in EVERYTHING and there are power players in the NYC BOE.
So Mathew, have you always felt INSTITUTIONAL RACISM is ok? Do you have children? God forbid you ever have a child that needs special ed. and someone like yourself feels that way not against inner city schools but against learning disabilities? You made this a race thing also, I know plenty of whites that live in the inner city. But I'm sure you'll find some excuse to answer this.
Hail Hitler.
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HERE'S THE BREAK DOWN FOR GETBIGGER MENTALITY:
1. This letter is pretty spot on.
2. Its absolutely brilliant to have a residency. New teachers get a few weeks to student teach. That is not enough time to figure out if that is what you want to do or even get ready to be in a classroom.
3. Teachers are leaving poor sections in NEW YORK CITY (NOTICE I DID NOT SAY NEW YORK) because in NYC poor districts DO NOT GET THE SAME RESOURCES AS OTHER DISTRICTS!!!!! Understand? So that means a teacher that is in a poor district doesn't have, example: a white board, certain books, etc. etc. It's SHAMEFUL but you don't see Mario Cuomo saying a PEEP about that. Where are the black leaders?
4. Teachers are also leaving poor districts because of lack of parenting and values about education.
5. Hiring teachers of colour, Um...can't prove that one. I've seen disrespect from blacks to white and black administrators. It really doesn't matter. What does matter is if those kids have grown up with those teachers surrounding them IN THEIR NEIGOBORHOODS. This is why its important to hire people that live in that community.
Did you learn something?
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cuomo is to busy making sure the hasidics get what they want the only reason why he was re-elected is because of them....
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Are you losing it Mathew?
Because then you have no equality when it comes to Public Education Mathew. How can a child better themselves, pull themselves out of the inner city when they are not given an equal playing field because higher ups in the Board Of Education hand out the money to schools the way they feel? I mean some of these schools are teaching kids with books that are 10-15 years old.
Where's Liberal Progressive Mario Cuomo when it comes to this? He could very well say I'm holding back funds to the NYC School District because they are not helping schools in the inner city. Why would he be silent? Because politics plays a roll in EVERYTHING and there are power players in the NYC BOE.
So Mathew, have you always felt INSTITUTIONAL RACISM is ok? Do you have children? God forbid you ever have a child that needs special ed. and someone like yourself feels that way not against inner city schools but against learning disabilities? You made this a race thing also, I know plenty of whites that live in the inner city. But I'm sure you'll find some excuse to answer this.
Hail Hitler.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have children and I left NYC specifically because I have them.
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I have children and I left NYC specifically because I have them.
This is why I feel sorry for no one. Everybody can move and get a job somewhere else if they live in a bad area. I have never understood why people think they are locked into the ghetto or some shitty town or rural area when all they have to do is leave. I have lived in several states over the years and have never felt I was stuck somewhere.
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This is why I feel sorry for no one. Everybody can move and get a job somewhere else if they live in a bad area. I have never understood why people think they are locked into the ghetto or some shitty town or rural area when all they have to do is leave. I have lived in several states over the years and have never felt I was stuck somewhere.
Not every white person has a well paying job to be able to afford that. It's getting more and more expensive to get in all white areas.
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This is why I feel sorry for no one. Everybody can move and get a job somewhere else if they live in a bad area. I have never understood why people think they are locked into the ghetto or some shitty town or rural area when all they have to do is leave. I have lived in several states over the years and have never felt I was stuck somewhere.
Well, the issue was that I was living in a middle class neighborhood, but when my children get older, had I stayed there, they'd wind up in public schools. And like, as you know, I am not a fan of "enrichment", nor will my kids benefit from "enrichment", and there's a chance they might be physically harmed by it.
My high school was on the way downhill when I was there in the late 90's. But now it's been thoroughly enriched because other fully enriched schools caused it to be overcrowded because many enriched kids now go there. Last year there were stabbing and bleach attacks in the school.
Some schools in my former borough are now overcrowded and operating at 200 percent capacity--not exactly the environment that is conducive to proper schooling, enriched or not!
And opposed to what Fallsview is preaching, I simply do not care that a certain segment of the population's kind does not practice high-investment parenting generally. Not sorry, I and others are doing our parts in high-investment parenting and ferrel kids, enriched or not, should stay away from mine! Young people get a tiny wind in their lives to prove their worth and talent and set the course of their careers! And if they're gonna have their grades and well-being effected by violent and horribly behaved kids... no thanks!
I do see that Fallsview is advocating a form of segregation though. He wants inner-NYC students being taught by adults who grew up in the surrounding areas, which are likely people of their own kind, which implies that YT teachers shouldn't teach in those areas because they are unsuitable for such places. I don't see how one's hometown has anything to do with competence in teaching history, math, science, and language, but if that's what he and others deem appropriate, then so be it. So they want to practice discrimination. Not hypocritical right?
We moved to a suburb an hour away. If necessary, I will send my kids to private school or even do home schooling for some time--anything but having my kids precious trajectories altered, physically, emotionally or educationally.
My aunt and mom went to school in "Da BX" when it was becoming enriched in the 60s and 70s, you know. My grandpa had to go to the school and lost his temper and threatened students that were bothering them. But this was when a fathers could strike fear in kids who were laying their hands on their daughters without having their lives destroyed by the media.
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Well, the issue was that I was living in a middle class neighborhood, but when my children get older, had I stayed there, they'd wind up in public schools. And like, as you know, I am not a fan of "enrichment", nor will my kids benefit from "enrichment", and there's a chance they might be physically harmed by it.
My high school was on the way downhill when I was there in the late 90's. But now it's been thoroughly enriched because other fully enriched schools caused it to be overcrowded because many enriched kids now go there. Last year there were stabbing and bleach attacks in the school.
Some schools in my former borough are now overcrowded and operating at 200 percent capacity--not exactly the environment that is conducive to proper schooling, enriched or not!
And opposed to what Fallsview is preaching, I simply do not care that a certain segment of the population's kind does not practice high-investment parenting generally. Not sorry, I and others are doing our parts in high-investment parenting and ferrel kids, enriched or not, should stay away from mine! Young people get a tiny wind in their lives to prove their worth and talent and set the course of their careers! And if they're gonna have their grades and well-being effected by violent and horribly behaved kids... no thanks!
I do see that Fallsview is advocating a form of segregation though. He wants inner-NYC students being taught by adults who grew up in the surrounding areas, which are likely people of their own kind, which implies that YT teachers shouldn't teach in those areas because they are unsuitable for such places. I don't see how one's hometown has anything to do with competence in teaching history, math, science, and language, but if that's what he and others deem appropriate, then so be it. So they want to practice discrimination. Not hypocritical right?
We moved to a suburb an hour away. If necessary, I will send my kids to private school or even do home schooling for some time--anything but having my kids precious trajectories altered, physically, emotionally or educationally.
My aunt and mom went to school in "Da BX" when it was becoming enriched in the 60s and 70s, you know. My grandpa had to go to the school and lost his temper and threatened students that were bothering them. But this was when a fathers could strike fear in kids who were laying their hands on their daughters without having their lives destroyed by the media.
Yes, there are totally different (crazy) times now.
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HERE'S THE BREAK DOWN FOR GETBIGGER MENTALITY:
1. This letter is pretty spot on.
2. Its absolutely brilliant to have a residency. New teachers get a few weeks to student teach. That is not enough time to figure out if that is what you want to do or even get ready to be in a classroom.
3. Teachers are leaving poor sections in NEW YORK CITY (NOTICE I DID NOT SAY NEW YORK) because in NYC poor districts DO NOT GET THE SAME RESOURCES AS OTHER DISTRICTS!!!!! Understand? So that means a teacher that is in a poor district doesn't have, example: a white board, certain books, etc. etc. It's SHAMEFUL but you don't see Mario Cuomo saying a PEEP about that. Where are the black leaders?
4. Teachers are also leaving poor districts because of lack of parenting and values about education.
5. Hiring teachers of colour, Um...can't prove that one. I've seen disrespect from blacks to white and black administrators. It really doesn't matter. What does matter is if those kids have grown up with those teachers surrounding them IN THEIR NEIGOBORHOODS. This is why its important to hire people that live in that community.
Did you learn something?
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, that your fake gimmick from “Lake Placid, NY” spells “color” exactly like a Canadian (see Matt Canning post above yours) does.
So Fallsview really isn’t Alex23, it is a Matt Canning gimmick.
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Not every white person has a well paying job to be able to afford that. It's getting more and more expensive to get in all white areas.
Yes, there are no jobs anywhere but NYC. Why not move and get a job somewhere else where housing cost half as much and your kids aren't in danger everyday.
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Yes, there are no jobs anywhere but NYC. Why not move and get a job somewhere else where housing cost half as much and your kids aren't in danger everyday.
That's exactly what we did. For some bizarre reason there's this notion amongst current-day cosmopolitans that there are no jobs or life isn't worth living anywhere but NYC and LA. You know, because there's "nothing to do there" and "there are no jobs there".
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The type of youth that one might encounter in NYC's schools.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7195333/Horrifying-video-shows-two-teens-STOMPING-strangers-head-New-York-subway-platform.html
Oldtimer asked why teachers leave the NYC school system despite an alright salary.
One answer: https://nypost.com/2018/04/21/students-attacked-threatened-thousands-of-school-employees-last-year/
Maybe Fallsview can weigh in on why "underfunding" and reading textbooks a mere decade old causes such incidents.
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That's exactly what we did. For some bizarre reason there's this notion amongst current-day cosmopolitans that there are no jobs or life isn't worth living anywhere but NYC and LA. You know, because there's "nothing to do there" and "there are no jobs there".
I know, I was responding to Maxx and that belief others seem to have regarding this subject.
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I know, I was responding to Maxx and that belief others seem to have regarding this subject.
Yup! And it's a good point considering many New Yorkers, including those that are utterly ordinary, have a condescending attitude on people of their own kind who reside in "flyover country". You know, they're all dumb, raycis, have bad teeth, are inbred, and fool around with farm animals, just like Hollywood portrays them in horror movies and comedies! And besides, "bars aren't open til 3 AM there," as if anyone can come up with a goo reason for being in a bar or club so goddamn late!
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The type of youth that one might encounter in NYC's schools.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7195333/Horrifying-video-shows-two-teens-STOMPING-strangers-head-New-York-subway-platform.html
Oldtimer asked why teachers leave the NYC school system despite an alright salary.
One answer: https://nypost.com/2018/04/21/students-attacked-threatened-thousands-of-school-employees-last-year/
Maybe Fallsview can weigh in on why "underfunding" and reading textbooks a mere decade old causes such incidents.
Are you losing it like Mathew?
Of course thats part of the problem. In no way is that acceptable for that to happen. HOWEVER, the disparity between resources and materials provided to schools in RICH AND POOR AREAS automatically lends itself to horrific outcomes. You can't have equal educational outcomes when the METHODS USED TO TEACH ARE UNEQUAL.
Again, I can explain it to you but I can't make you understand.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NYC schools are up for grabs!
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Not every white person has a well paying job to be able to afford that. It's getting more and more expensive to get in all white areas.
It's amazing how much the ethnic makeup of an area affects the residential real estate prices and how fragile those real estate values are when the demographics of an area changes.
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It's a dose of reality that shatters their liberal/progressive World view and leaves them disheartened. THAT'S why they leave.
When you discover that you have been lied to your entire life it's disturbing.
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It's a dose of reality that shatters their liberal/progressive World view and leaves them disheartened. THAT'S why they leave.
When you discover that you have been lied to your entire life it's disturbing.
What is even more disturbing is they have been lying to themselves. They deserve to wallow in what they helped to create.
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100k after 22 years.
Kindgergarten teachers make that much here. Salary is based on the level of education attained by the teacher.
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Are you losing it like Mathew?
Of course thats part of the problem. In no way is that acceptable for that to happen. HOWEVER, the disparity between resources and materials provided to schools in RICH AND POOR AREAS automatically lends itself to horrific outcomes. You can't have equal educational outcomes when the METHODS USED TO TEACH ARE UNEQUAL.
Again, I can explain it to you but I can't make you understand.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yet if you look at the specialized High Schools that require a test to get in, you’ll see they are predominantly Asian. Funny how this group was able to overcome hardships and succeed, yet others, Blacks and Hispanics fail.
Your rap is bullshit. It’s not the resources. It’s the quality of the student.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuyvesant_High_School
For most of the 20th century, the student body at Stuyvesant was heavily Jewish. A significant influx of Asian students began in the 1970s; by 2019, 74% of the students in attendance were Asian-American (most from families with low incomes).[67] In the 2013 academic year, the student body was 72.43% Asian, 21.44% Caucasian, 1.03% African American, 2.34% Hispanic, and 3% unknown/other.[4] The paucity of Black and Hispanic students at Stuyvesant has often been an issue for some city administrators.
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Are you losing it like Mathew?
Of course thats part of the problem. In no way is that acceptable for that to happen. HOWEVER, the disparity between resources and materials provided to schools in RICH AND POOR AREAS automatically lends itself to horrific outcomes. You can't have equal educational outcomes when the METHODS USED TO TEACH ARE UNEQUAL.
Again, I can explain it to you but I can't make you understand.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You sure drank the pc kool aid.
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Are you losing it like Mathew?
Of course thats part of the problem. In no way is that acceptable for that to happen. HOWEVER, the disparity between resources and materials provided to schools in RICH AND POOR AREAS automatically lends itself to horrific outcomes. You can't have equal educational outcomes when the METHODS USED TO TEACH ARE UNEQUAL.
Again, I can explain it to you but I can't make you understand.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You read like a fooking 'tard. Typist.